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PUBLIC WORKS AND SAFETY COMMITTEE Packet 11032025CITY OF MUSKEGO PUBLIC WORKS AND SAFETY COMMITTEE AGENDA 11 /03/2025 5:00 PM Muskego City Hall, W182 S8200 Racine Ave CALL TO ORDER PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLL CALL STATEMENT OF PUBLIC NOTICE APPROVAL OF MINUTES be C21 of SKEGO Approval of Minutes of the 10/28/2024; 01/20/2025; 04/14/2025; 07/21/2025 and 10/20/2025 Meetings Minutes 10282024.pdf Minutes 01202025.pdf Minutes 04142025.pdf Minutes 07212025.pdf Minutes 10202025.pdf STATUS OF PROJECTS Discussion update. No formal action may be taken on the following: UNFINISHED BUSINESS Discussion update and possible action may be taken on any or all of the following: NEW BUSINESS Discussion update and possible action may be taken on any or all of the following: Possible Reconsideration of the Golf View Estates Development Request for Ditches vs. Curb and Gutter Memo - Golf View Estates Development Request for Ditches vs. Curb and Gutter.pdf Aerial.pdf Golf View Yield Plan.pdf NEW BUSINESS PLACED ON FILE (The following items have been placed on file for staff review. Upon completion of review, staff will submit a supplement detailing options and possible course action to committee members.) COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW ADJOURNMENT NOTICE 1 IT IS POSSIBLE THAT MEMBERS OF AND POSSIBLY A QUORUM OF MEMBERS OF OTHER GOVERNMENTAL BODIES OF THE MUNICIPALITY MAY BE IN ATTENDANCE AT THE ABOVE -STATED MEETING TO GATHER INFORMATION; NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN BY ANY GOVERNMENTAL BODY AT THE ABOVE -STATED MEETING OTHER THAN THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY SPECIFICALLY REFERRED TO ABOVE IN THIS NOTICE. ALSO, UPON REASONABLE NOTICE, EFFORTS WILL BE MADE TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF DISABLED INDIVIDUALS THROUGH APPROPRIATE AIDS AND SERVICES. FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR TO REQUEST THIS SERVICE, CONTACT MUSKEGO CITY HALL, (262) 679-4100. Unapproved CITY OF MUSKEGO PUBLIC WORKS AND SAFETY C4 of COMMITTEE MINUTES �. October 28, 2024 , � � ` SKEGO 5:00 PM Muskego City Hall, W182 S8200 Racine Avenue CALL TO ORDER Alderperson Kubacki called the meeting to order at 5:00 PM. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Those present recited the Pledge of Allegiance. ROLL CALL Present: Alderpersons Kubacki, Schwer and Madden; Scott Kroeger, Director of Public Works and Development, Police Chief Steve Westphal STATEMENT OF PUBLIC NOTICE The meeting was posted in accordance with open meeting laws on October 17, 2024. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Approval of Minutes of the 01/18/2022; 04/19/2022; 06/13/2022; 07/18/2022;10/17/2022; 03/20/2023; 05/15/2023; 08/21/2023; 03/18/2024; 05/20/2024 and 07/15/2024 Meetings Alderperson Madden made a motion to Approve the Minutes engross. Alderperson Schwer seconded. Motion Passed 3 in Favor. STATUS OF PROJECTS Discussion update. No formal action may be taken on any of the following: Hillendale Drive Reconstruction Project Director Kroeger said that they are very close to finishing the project. Moving forward, the plan is to put the surface course of pavement down on the road on Friday, November 1st Landscaping should be done by tomorrow (10/29/2024). Then after the last surface of pavement is down the four major items left will be some shouldering, pavement marking, signs and then replace the mailboxes. Road Program 2024 Director Kroeger explained that the road program was wrapped up last week. The restoration is completed. They are going through the last quantities and payment application and then they focus on the 2025 Road Program, so they are ready to put out to bid in March 2025. PP/II 2024-2025 Project Director Kroeger said that when they started the program there were 67 homes signed up for two phases. In the Fall of 2024, they completed 34 with replacement sanitary sewer lateral on 3 private property. There were four homes that were removed from the project for a variety of reasons. They are done for the year, and the 28 remaining properties will be completed in spring. Police Chief Updates Police Chief Westphal said that there is a Trunk -or -Treat going on right now. Two officers recently finished their probationary period. An officer and his canine partner Tito received an award from school district personnel from across the state reference innovations in school safety. Police Chief Westphal also wanted to point out that things being approved by Public Works & Safety are not just lines on a page but have significance. There was an incident on Big Muskego Lake where the drones that were approved through capital projects for Police and IT were able to locate someone on the lake that was in mental health distress. The drones were used to find the individual to rescue them. The Fire Department actually passed this person on the lake but through the use of the drone the Fire Department was able to locate them. Chief Westphal wanted to thank the Alderpersons for supporting them financially and other ways. Other capital projects approved include the digital speed sign signage and radar units for the squad cars. Calls for service are increasing, traffic crashes are increasing, and the population is increasing so this should be forefront when discussing public safety. As for staffing, they are at 100 percent with two individuals still in the academy. UNFINISHED BUSINESS Discussion update and possible action may be taken on any or all of the following: NEW BUSINESS Discussion update and possible action may be taken on any or all of the following: Kirkland Crossing Phase 1 Public Improvements Approval Director Kroeger explained this is the largest residential subdivision in quite some time. It will be located between Martin Drive and College Drive. There will be 66 lots with public water mains, public sanitary sewer and storm sewer with detention ponds and a booster station for water. The water is being reviewed by the DNR, and the Developer's Agreement is being reviewed by the City Attorney. They would like to start utility work this winter. Alderperson Madden made a motion to Approve the Kirkland Crossing Phase 1 Public Improvements. Alderperson Schwer seconded. Motion Passed 3 in favor. Request for Stop Signs on Haven Drive at Intersection of Joel Drive Director Kroeger said that there is a 2-way stop that would be changing to a 4-way stop. In the last five years the only complaints were from juveniles riding mini -bikes, one traffic stop, a suspicious van and a reckless driving complaint. Robert Wayer, S81W17581 Haven Drive, said that he has lived there for 28 years and raised family there. The subdivision has switched with empty nesters and grandkids. From Lannon to Brennon Street and cars are going way too fast. Would like a 4-way stop to slow traffic down before something bad happens. Alderperson Kubacki asked Police Chief Westphal if 4-way stops are effective in controlling traffic. Police Chief Westphal said it depends on if it's going to slow traffic and sometimes you get opposite complaints from those hearing braking and acceleration from the stop. There haven't been many accidents or crashes in this specific intersection. 4 Nate Werdin, S81 W17604 Haven Drive, said that he moved to Muskego last year. That corner lot has become a hub for kids to come play. Just two weeks ago a bus was there dropping kids off and someone drove right past almost hitting two kids. A 4-way stop would make this much safer and he would feel much better with kids in the yard. Robert Wayer said that hearing cars brake and accelerate should not even be in the question when it comes to the safety of the kids. Alderperson Schwer said he drove through the area and saw what everyone was saying. This is a bus stop with many kids in the morning and afternoon. Adding two additional signs forcing cars to slow down would improve the safety, especially for the kids waiting at the bus stop. Alderperson Kubacki clarified that the signs are now on Joel Drive. Director Kroeger said the distance of Haven is about the same as Joel Drive. Alderperson Schwer would recommend approval and said that looking at the map it is tucked back in the neighborhood and most people wouldn't be affected. Alderperson Madden made a motion to Approve the Request for Stop Signs on Haven Drive at Intersection of Joel Drive. Alderperson Schwer seconded. Motion Passed 3 in favor. Request for Traffic Study at Tess Corners Dr and Woods Rd Intersection Director Kroeger noted that Alderman Wolfe requested this come to the Committee. What's happening is that during peak hours in the morning and afternoon traffic backs up. This would be a traffic study that would be between $5,000 and $7,000 and would include peak hour turning movement at the intersection, a review of crash history, a review of signal warrant analysis determining whether signals are warranted, and an operations analysis and recommendations report memo at a future meeting. Right now there are no separate turn lanes. There are residential driveways near the intersection. In the past five years there have been 4 accidents with injuries, 12 accidents with property damage and one hit-and-run. If you want to make any improvements first you need to do this study. We don't have the tools in- house to do this, but this would be a request to move forward to Finance and Common Council. Alderperson Kubacki said that he goes through the intersection periodically, not during peak times, but he finds it difficult to plan for certain peak hours. Director Kroeger says that intersections are rated A thru E with A being the best and E the worst. As a City, do you need every intersection to be level A or can you live with the level of service being a little lower during peak times. Additionally, any improvements to intersections include additional maintenance costs. Larger intersections are more pavement repairs, more plowing, etc. If there are signals, there are costs for those as well. Or for a roundabout, there may be costs to purchase right-of-way. Alderperson Kubacki also mentioned that Janesville Road is a suitable road that can be used as well. Police Chief Westphal mentioned as a reminder that the speed limit was lowered on Tess Corners so that also lowers the throughput, or number of cars that can travel through. Another part of the concern is that the roads do not intersect at a 90-degree angle. Alderperson Madden said that if the analysis is done and the results say that we need a roundabout and widening the road and turning lanes are needed, what is the City responsibility to complete the improvements. Director Kroeger said that nobody is directing you to do anything. Rather it just lets you know how the intersection can be improved to a higher level. 41 Normally in the traffic study there is one option that is to do nothing. Alderperson Madden said that they would be spending this money to find out that the road is busy and the road may need to be fixed at some point. Alderperson Schwer said that they just finished a hard budget he doesn't see where five to seven thousand can be pulled from. This wouldn't be until 2026 or 2027, where the cost estimates will change anyway. Alderperson Kubacki said he would be hard pressed to recommend approval. Alderperson Madden made a motion to Deny the Request for Traffic Study at Tess Corners Dr and Woods Rd Intersection. Alderperson Schwer seconded. Motion Passed 3 in favor. NEW BUSINESS PLACED ON FILE (The following items have been placed on file for staff review. Upon completion of review, staff will submit a supplement detailing options and possible course of action to committee members.) COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW ADJOURNMENT Alderperson Madden made a motion to adjourn at 5:29 PM. Alderperson Schwer seconded. Motion Passed 3 in favor. Respectfully Submitted, Wendy Fredlund Recording Secretary Unapproved CITY OF MUSKEGO PUBLIC WORKS AND SAFETY C4 of COMMITTEE MINUTES �. January 20, 2025 ` SKEGO 5:00 PM � + Muskego City Hall, W182 S8200 Racine Avenue CALL TO ORDER Alderperson Kubacki called the meeting to order at 5:00 PM. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Those present recited the Pledge of Allegiance. ROLL CALL Present: Alderpersons Kubacki, Schwer and Madden; Scott Kroeger, Director of Public Works and Development, Police Chief Steve Westphal STATEMENT OF PUBLIC NOTICE The meeting was posted in accordance with open meeting laws on January 17, 2025. STATUS OF PROJECTS Discussion update. No formal action may be taken on any of the following: Hillendale Drive Reconstruction Project Director Kroeger stated that the project has been completed and will no longer be discussed at these meetings. Next spring and summer the City will address any grass issues that do not survive the winter. There are speeding issues so there will be a flashing speed limit sign posted. Road Program 2024/2025 Director Kroeger stated that the 2024 Road Program has been completed. The 2025 Road Program will be bid in February or March 2025. Once awarded a schedule will be made and letters will be sent to affected residents. PP/II 2024/2025 Project Director Kroeger stated that in 2024 there were 35 houses completed, and the plan is for 28 homes in 2025. Notifications to homeowners will occur closer to construction dates and site visits will happen with the consultant. Alderperson Kubacki confirmed this will be done with MMSD. Director Kroeger agreed. UNFINISHED BUSINESS Discussion update and possible action may be taken on any or all of the following: NEW BUSINESS Discussion update and possible action may be taken on any or all of the following: ATV/UTV Use on City Streets 7 Director Kroeger explained that Alderperson Schwer proposed this to the Common Council, but it must be reviewed by Public Works & Safety first. Director Kroeger highlighted the memo including the requirements needed for ATV/UTV use. Alderperson Schwer said the idea came from a constituent. This was looked at when golf carts were approved but decided at that time to keep only golf carts. Now this is moving forward with Ordinances mirrored from other community's Ordinances. This is only legalizing ATV/UTV use on City streets not the County or State highways. Police Chief Westphal said that they haven't had any issues. The ATV/UTV's have more safety features than mopeds, for example. If they are using the City roads all the uniform traffic codes apply anyway, and these vehicles must be registered with the DNR as well. These vehicles will be on the roadway not on the trails. Alderperson Kubacki said that the golf carts must be on roads up to 25 mph and if these can be on any City street, you could have an ATV/UTV on Crowbar, which is 45 mph. Police Chief Westphal thought the golf carts were 30 mph and the ATV/UTVs go faster than the golf carts. Mayor Petfalski mentioned that the golf carts were limited to lower speed roads so that there wouldn't be issues holding up traffic and passing. The ATV/UTVs go faster and have a full roll cage for safety. Alderperson Madden said that the kids will get in trouble but that is not a reason to not support this. Mayor Petfalski mentioned other communities that have approved ATV/UTVs, and he just spoke to someone from one of those communities and they haven't had any issues. Alderperson Schwer made a motion to Approve the ATV/UTV Use on City Streets. Alderperson Madden seconded. Motion Passed 3 in favor. Chronic Nuisance Premises Police Chief Westphal said they have been asking for a few more tools in addressing nuisance properties. There are some repeat offenders that this would apply. Alderperson Madden said her concern is the feuding neighbor situation. Police Chief Westphal said those calls also reach the police as well, and they vet every situation. Alderperson Kubacki said that this ordinance is directed at the property owner or property and not the person that calls repeatedly. Alderperson Decker asked if there was anything in particular that instigated this. Police Chief Westphal said yes that there are a couple chronic properties that they need to address, and this is just another tool they can use. Mayor Petfalski gave a few examples of how the Chronic Nuisance Premises Ordinance would be applied. Alderperson Madden made a motion to Approve the Chronic Nuisance Premises. Alderperson Schwer seconded. Motion Passed 3 in favor. Slow No Wake Orders Director Kroeger said there is an abundance of water in all three lakes during times throughout the year, so the Slow No Wake Orders will come into effect when the water reaches specific benchmarks. Police Chief Westphal noted that with the benchmarks the ordinances will be more enforceable. Public Works Superintendent Beilfuss noted that from history, they know when the water is going to rise and how much water leaves. In the past, the 12-inch mark was where there starts to be damage and erosion. Eight inches is about the limit where everything is good. Alderperson Schwer made a motion to Approve the Slow No Wake Orders. Alderperson Madden seconded. Motion Passed 3 in favor. NEW BUSINESS PLACED ON FILE (The following items have been placed on file for staff review. Upon completion of review, staff will submit a supplement detailing options and possible course of action to committee members.) COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW Mayor Petfalski noted that at the library there are some issues with the fire suppression system that is original to the building. They are at a system failure point and have obtained a couple bids. As for the funding, the library has found two endowment funds for the building. Any additional costs will come from the parking lot funds. The parking lot is not an emergency where the fire suppression system is. ADJOURNMENT Alderperson Madden made a motion to adjourn at 5:31 PM. Alderperson Schwer seconded. Motion Passed 3 in favor. Respectfully Submitted, Wendy Fredlund Recording Secretary 9 Unapproved CITY OF MUSKEGO PUBLIC WORKS AND SAFETY C4 of COMMITTEE MINUTES �. April 14, 2025 5:00 PM , + ` SKEGO ,Y Muskego City Hall, W182 S8200 Racine Avenue CALL TO ORDER Alderperson Kubacki called the meeting to order at 5:00 PM. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Those present recited the Pledge of Allegiance. ROLL CALL Present: Alderpersons Kubacki, Schwer and Madden; Scott Kroeger, Director of Public Works and Development, Police Chief Steve Westphal STATEMENT OF PUBLIC NOTICE The meeting was posted in accordance with open meeting laws on April 10, 2025. STATUS OF PROJECTS Discussion update. No formal action may be taken on any of the following: Road Program 2025 Director Kroeger stated that the plans are out for bid, and the bid opening will be on Wednesday, April 16, 2025, and take it to Council on April 22, 2025. The two base bids are Woodland Place that couldn't be finished last year, and Weatherwood Circle where the water laterals are being replaced. The alternate bids are Prairie Meadow Drive, Schultz Lane and Scenic Drive. The library parking lot is also part of this but is broken into three phases. The goal is to get two of the three this year. PP/II 2024-2025 Project Director Kroeger noted that this project is with MMSD. As of last Friday, there were six homes completed with 25 remaining. The restoration crew is going back over all of phase one. Alderperson Kubacki asked if there were any people that decided not to do the project. Director Kroeger said there were a couple that the lateral location made it not a good fit and a couple residents were not interested. Through this project they have found a few homes with the sump pump connected directly to the sanitary sewer system. Two have already disconnected and a third is being worked on with MMSD. Police Chief Updates Police Chief Westphal noted that Muskego was ranked nineth safest city in Wisconsin, and we have the highest population. One of the officers took the lead on the gaming machine issues that has been happening in SE Wisconsin. He also thanked the Council for their support and they used many pieces of equipment that have been funded with the approval of the Common Council. UNFINISHED BUSINESS Discussion update and possible action may be taken on any or all of the following: 10 NEW BUSINESS Discussion update and possible action may be taken on any or all of the following: Apple Hills Public Improvements/Engineering Approval Director Kroeger showed the plans for Apple Hills with nine lots and an existing house. There will be public roads, water and sewer. They are hoping to complete a Developer's Agreement in the next couple of months and break ground in three to four months. Looking for approval of public improvements. Alderperson Madden made a motion to Approve the Apple Hills Public Improvements/Engineering. Alderperson Schwer seconded. Motion Passed 3 in favor. Golf View Estates Public Improvements/Engineering Approval Director Kroeger said this is off Ryan Drive and is a Conservation Subdivision that will be 19 lots with public water, public road, sanitary and storm sewers. There will also be a trail dedicated to the City below the ATC lines from Boxhorn Drive to Ryan Drive. Beginning to work on the Developer's Agreement and will hopefully start breaking ground in the Fall. Looking for approval for the public improvements. Alderperson Madden made a motion to Approve the Golf View Estates Public Improvements/Engineering. Alderperson Schwer seconded. Motion Passed 3 in favor. Notification of Tractor Supply Plans Director Kroeger said there are no public improvements but he wanted to share what is going on. The new Tractor Supply will be in the Kohl's Department Store area, east of the medical facility. Their plans are at the State for review. Plans to break ground are in July and opening in October. NEW BUSINESS PLACED ON FILE (The following items have been placed on file for staff review. Upon completion of review, staff will submit a supplement detailing options and possible course of action to committee members.) COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW ADJOURNMENT Alderperson Madden made a motion to adjourn at 5:15 PM. Alderperson Schwer seconded. Motion Passed 3 in favor. Respectfully Submitted, Wendy Fredlund Recording Secretary 11 Unapproved CITY OF MUSKEGO PUBLIC WORKS AND SAFETY COMMITTEE MINUTES July 21, 2025 5:30 PM Muskeqo Citv Hall, W182 S8200 Racine Avenue CALL TO ORDER Alderperson Madden called the meeting to order at 5:32 PM. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Those present recited the Pledge of Allegiance. ROLL CALL tu.ctVor USKEGO Present: Alderpersons Madden, Decker and Duelge; Scott Kroeger, Director of Public Works and Development, Police Chief Steve Westphal STATEMENT OF PUBLIC NOTICE The meeting was posted in accordance with open meeting laws on July 17, 2025. STATUS OF PROJECTS Discussion update. No formal action may be taken on any of the following: Road Program 2025 Director Kroeger stated that the project started. They are in the southeastern part of the City working on Weatherwood Circle and Prairie Meadows. The library will be closed for a time as two-thirds of the parking lot will be under construction. Alderperson Madden asked if there will be a full report on the status of everything. Director Kroeger said that he and Ryan will be reporting to Common Council tomorrow. PP/II 2024/2025 Project Director Kroeger said that all construction and restoration have been completed. They are holding back a little of the money in case there are any settling issues that need repair. Police Chief Updates Police Chief Westphal said that the Citizens Academy Alumni Association had a picnic/pig roast and raffle. There will be a Tunnels to Tower event coming up. There will be Fun Run and pancakes to fund the K-9 program on Aug 3rd. National Night Out is Aug 13th. The Police Department is hiring three new officers. UNFINISHED BUSINESS Discussion update and possible action may be taken on any or all of the following: NEW BUSINESS Discussion update and possible action may be taken on any or all of the following: Warrior Wash, LLC — Residential Equivalent Connection (REC) Charge Dispute Attorney Lisa Wood, representing Warrior Wash, explained that they have been communicating with the City Attorney regarding how the assessment came out and what the process was. Her understanding is that the City failed to issue the assessment per the ordinances. Therefore, the City passed a resolution authorizing the back charge. Ms. Wood does not believe the City has the authority to back charge assessments. They met with City staff to come up with a fair resolution as the assessment would put the company out of business even with a 10-year plan at eight percent interest as there have been three additional car washes built within the City. The proposal was averaging four quarters of historic usage to recalculate the assessment, which would be $63,600. Alderperson Decker would like to hear the opinion of the City Attorney, who was not present. Director Kroeger said that he believed that if the City Attorney thought the process the City was incorrect, he would have stopped it right away. There are multiple businesses that received an assessment letter. Alderperson Madden asked if this was done previously. Director Kroeger said there was a company that challenged the assessments in the past, but it was found that the City was following their ordinances. Ms. Wood said that this is not a matter of the calculation, but the authority to back charge. Ms. Wood guesses there is not a resolution every year but if assessed timely the City follows the ordinances and has the authority to charge the assessment. Director Kroeger said that the charges are calculated per the ordinance and the amount being charged at this car wash is consistent with all the other car washes. Mayor Petfalski said this is not a back charge or a usage fee, but it is a fee for capacity. The way our ordinance is written, it doesn't matter when you get the invoice, but the City's ordinance charges for the property's highest capacity for sewer usage even if usage later declines. The City must build their infrastructure and MMSD builds their infrastructure and bills the City back based on that capacity. Director Kroeger said this is a REC charge and not a utility charge. Ms. Wood asked when that should have been billed. From a financial standpoint for the City, it's best to get the money as soon as it's needed. There is a survey that must be completed annually. The problem was that nobody completed the survey yearly and now there is a penalty phase for not filling out the survey. The ordinance doesn't dictate when it is billed, it is just that you are buying the capacity. Ms. Wood said her question is does the City have the authority to back charge. Alderperson Madden said that the City Attorney has been involved and doesn't believe this Committee is in the position to negotiate anything. Alderperson Duelge said that he feels that they are missing some information as far as how the City feels about the number that was generated. Director Kroeger said there was one meeting and at no time during that meeting did anyone say that they agreed to any negotiation of the price and the memo says that the City should follow the ordinance and not negotiate any price. Alderperson Decker asked if Warrior Wash applied for or received any discounts. The owner of Warrior Wash said they did and have the discount from MMSD since they opened in 2019. Alderperson Duelge said there is something in the documents about reapplying for discounts from MMSD. The owner of Warrior Wash said they just had a renewal of the discounts. Mayor Petfalski noted that Warrior Wash is a bit unique. They bought the property bank owned. If you purchase bank owned, you are not aware of any outstanding fees they would have been aware of if they purchased it traditionally. Council could have them apply for different terms. Alderperson Madden made a motion to Deny the Warrior Wash, LLC — Residential Equivalent Connection (REC) Charge Dispute. Alderperson Duelge seconded. Motion Denied 3 in favor. 13 Request for the City of Muskego to Pave the Existing WE Energies Recreational Trail Jim Gruennert, S74W14343 Settler Way, submitted a report to request the trail be paved. Mr. Gruennert stated that this is the Muskego Recreational Trail not We Energies trail. The trail is recycled asphalt, which they don't believe is a good surface for a trail and is in violation of the license agreement that states it must be a crushed stone or asphalt paved trail. He provided a few reviews of the trail and his personal testing of the trail using an app on his phone. He believes the trail is complimentary to the road construction separating trail users and vehicles. He noted that federal funds can reimburse up to 80% of construction costs if the City would have applied in 2023 for 2024 funding, they would have ranked second based on SEWRPC notations. Alderperson Decker asked what he would think the price would be for this project. Mr. Gruennert noted a past estimate from staff of $1 million for a paved trail. That cost may be doubled by going through all the federal requirements. Alderperson Madden said her concern with paving it is that when We Energies trucks ruin the trail the City must fix that damage. Mr. Gruennert did not agree and that the City just maintain a HS-20 standard. Alderperson Madden asked if the program is one where the City puts out the money first and then the City may or may not get the reimbursement. Director Kroeger said it was. The City is not against trails, as trails have been installed. As for the We Energies trail, to save taxpayer money, the City uses asphalt millings to be sustainable and reusing material that they already have on hand. Staff noted that back in 2022 Jim Gruennert discussed the trail with the City, and for a trail eight feet wide with five inches of asphalt and 6.6 miles in length, it was $1 million. We Energies then said they wanted ten feet wide with a minimum of six inches of asphalt with HS 20 loading, which is essentially designing a roadway, which makes sense for We Energies to use for their trucks. This will now be several million dollars, but there are no plans to get an actual estimate. There has been no direction from Council to move forward with any funding. Council will have to commit to spending the money for this trail and design. Yes, there is the 20-80 funding, but that is if the City gets awarded the money. Additionally, if there are any costs that go over what is estimated, the City must pay for that potion at 100 percent. The suggestion from the individual running the grant program was to break up the trail into three segments so all the grant money available is not all requested by one project. Mr. Gruennert suggested that, since there is uncertainty, to submit for funding for engineering only. You know the cost of the plans and there would be the 80-20 funding split. Alderperson Madden said the City has competing capital priorities in road repairs and other projects, but it will not make it on the 2025 budget. Director Kroeger said that in the Parks and Open Space Plan there are other priorities of trails also. Meaning, are there other loops throughout the City that should be explored first. Alderperson Decker asked because this is tied to We Energies, is the City tied to a paved trail. Mr. Gruennert said paved is preferred, but you can ride on crushed gravel. Director Kroeger said that this would be a line item on the budget. Alderperson Decker asked if crushed stone would be an option for this trail. Director Kroeger said that he would need to contact We Energies for approval. Alderperson Duelge said it is a worthwhile cause as he rides the trail also, but he is having a hard time committing millions of dollars for trail projects with the aforementioned stat of the roads that he hears about multiple times every week. 14 Mayor Petfalski said he will do some research if they can apply for engineering without any commitment to cost if they do not get awarded any funding. If they do get the engineering funding, then it would be likely that the City would also get the construction. Alderperson Madden made a motion to Deny the Request for the City of Muskego to Pave the Existing WE Energies Recreational Trail. Alderperson Decker seconded. Motion Denied 3 in favor. NEW BUSINESS PLACED ON FILE (The following items have been placed on file for staff review. Upon completion of review, staff will submit a supplement detailing options and possible course of action to committee members.) COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW ADJOURNMENT Alderperson Decker made a motion to adjourn at 6:50 PM. Alderperson Duelge seconded. Motion Passed 3 in favor. Respectfully Submitted, Wendy Fredlund Recording Secretary 15 Unapproved CITY OF MUSKEGO PUBLIC WORKS AND SAFETY COMMITTEE MINUTES 10/20/2025 5:30 PM Muskego City Hall, W182 S8200 Racine Ave CALL TO ORDER Alderperson Madden called the meeting to order at 5:38 PM. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Those present recited the Pledge of Allegiance. ROLL CALL d C,iy of USKEGO Present: Alderpersons Madden, Duelge and Decker; Scott Kroeger, Director of Public Works and Development, Police Chief Westphal Absent: None STATEMENT OF PUBLIC NOTICE The meeting was posted in accordance with open meeting laws on October 17, 2025. STATUS OF PROJECTS Discussion update. No formal action may be taken on the following: Road Program 2025 Director Kroeger stated that the entire road program has been completed with the exception of one punchlist item at the library, which the contractor is finishing. Lastly, the LRIP request for funds was submitted to Waukesha County, which then goes to the WisDOT. PP/II 2024/2025 Project Director Kroeger explained the Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewerage District (MMSD) project is complete. There are no more items on the punchlist and they are always monitoring for grass restoration and sinkholes. Otherwise, the invoice reimbursements are being wrapped up and the program is completed for the year. Police Chief Updates Police Chief Westphal commented on the crash that occurred on Saturday. A copy of the press release has been shared. The Flock cameras that the Council funds is the reason the vehicle was able to be located. There was a pursuit until the crash occurred. The driver was arrested and charged with multiple offenses. The Police Chief explained that he takes this extremely seriously and will ensure with the Waukesha County District Attorney that this person is held accountable. This Wednesday (10/22/25), a concealed carry weapons class will be held in conjunction with the Citizens Academy Alumni Association. Next Monday (10/27/25) there will be the Trunk -or -Treat event at City Hall in the parking lot. The Police will be monitoring all the trick -or -treat events throughout the City making sure those are all done in a safe capacity. HEV UNFINISHED BUSINESS Discussion update and possible action may be taken on any or all of the following: There was no unfinished business discussed. NEW BUSINESS Discussion update and possible action may be taken on any or all of the following Golf View Estates Development Request for Ditches vs. Curb and Gutter Director Kroeger explained the location of Golf View Estates. In February 2024 there was a 19-lot conservation subdivision approved by the Common Council. In April 2025 the Public Works and Safety Committee approved the plan. Part of the conservation subdivision plan was a walking path that went from Ryan Drive to Boxhorn Drive. The developer is now asking to change the subdivision from 19 lots to 15 lots with lots now over an acre. In the Code if lots are greater than 44,000 square feet a developer can ask this committee to waive the requirement for curb and gutter and replace that with ditches. This is the only topic to be considered tonight. Whatever is decided will need to go back to Plan Commission and Common Council for approval. Alderperson Decker asked if it was originally approved for ditches. Director Kroeger said that the original approval was curb and gutter with 19 lots. Director Kroeger showed the members the original 15-lot and 19-lot yield plans and explained the rural cross section has ditches where the urban cross section has curb and gutter. There would still be water mains, sewer mains and rather than storm sewer there would be swales to move the water to the detention ponds. The reason for the request is financial with curb and gutter being too costly to construct. The Planning and Engineering recommendation would be to keep the curb and gutter within the future subdivision. Director Kroeger listed all of the recent developments in the vicinity that all have curb and gutter including Muskego Lakes Estates, Champions Village, Mallard Reserve, Astor Hills and Boxhorn Reserve. Director Kroeger also mentioned that if the ditches are approved the City does not maintain the ditches. Staff likes curb and gutter due to the cleaner look and the maintenance issues of the ditches. Curb and gutter also prevents issues of people parking on the edge of lawn areas which leads to upset residents and can lead to erosion and rutting issues. The City still plows the road but does not maintain the ditches. Alderperson Madden asked if there are water issues in that area. Director Kroeger noted that there are wetlands and the developer would still need to follow all DNR and MMSD with stormwater but just use swales instead of storm sewer. Alderperson Decker asked which does a better job of getting rid of storm water. Director Kroeger said both ways work. It's just a matter of the residents maintaining the swales. The City maintains the storm sewers. Issues normally happen when the ditches are not maintained by the homeowners. Alderperson Duelge asked how typical this type of development is. Director Kroeger stated that the only recent developments are Madyson Court and Baseler Court which are about two to five acres. These two developments also have wells, septic systems and they are also propane gas. These are on the west side which is more rural. The last two developments on the western side are all curb and gutter as well. Alderperson Duelge clarified that the original request with curb and gutter was due to lot size. Director Kroeger confirmed and said now with larger lots they can make the request for ditches. Alderperson Decker asked what the impact of the August storms were on that area. Director Kroeger was not aware as it is a farm field. Most impacts were north of Woods Road. liVA Jim Maloney, the engineer for the developer, said that Scott Kroeger covered everything. As for the impact from the storms, he checked the road to see if the water topped Ryan Drive and it did not. They like the looks of the curb and gutter also. However the path that is part of the subdivision added $600,000 to the project that was not originally anticipated. By installing ditches and removing the curb and storm sewer they are saving $300,000 to $400,000. The ditches help with storm water as the runoff is better. Alderperson Duelge asked where the path would be. Director Kroeger showed Alderperson Duelge the path. Alderperson Duelge asked who forced the path upon the project. Director Kroeger explained that the path was one of the reasons they did the conservation subdivision and were allowed the extra four lots. Jim Duelge added that the path was an amenity that would allow for the four extra lots. Alderperson Duelge said that by taking four lots away nothing changes with the path. Director Kroeger said that they are looking at the curbing and any other changes would need to go back to Plan Commission and Common Council. Alderperson Duelge asked if there is a difference in lot price with curb and gutter verses ditches. Jim Maloney said that what will help is sewer and water where curb and gutter is just personal preference. Alderperson Madden knows the area well and she has concerns with the City not maintaining the ditches because of issues throughout the City. She prefers the curb and gutter and would love the path to be there. Alderperson Decker said the boardwalk cost is associated with 19 lots. He then asked if they could avoid the boardwalk cost by going back to the 15 lots. Jim Maloney confirmed. Director Kroeger reiterated that they are here to discuss the curb and gutter verses ditches. Alderperson Madden said there will be future development in the area. We are expecting that would all be curb and gutter also correct. Director Kroeger said that typically developments occur with density which would include curb and gutter. Alderperson Decker asked that with 19 lots there is curb and gutter, with 15 lots there is ditches, is there an option for 15 lots with curb and gutter? Director Kroeger said that based on the committee decision, that will be the only option they have for 15 lots. Director Kroeger said that if the committee says 15 lots with curb and gutter, then that is what they have to go with. Jim Maloney said that is how the numbers work. Alderperson Decker asked how 15 lots with curb and gutter work for the developer. Jim Maloney confirmed. Alderperson Duelge said he does not have an issue with the request of going to 15 lots with ditches. Alderperson Decker asked if there is a way the City can require that an HOA be put in place to ensure the job is done. Director Kroeger said there will be language on the plat and in the Developer's Agreement that the responsibility will be on the owners. Alderperson Duelge made a motion to approve the request of allowing 15 lots with ditches rather than curb and gutter. Alderperson Decker seconded. Motion Passed 2 in favor 1 opposed. NEW BUSINESS PLACED ON FILE (The following items have been placed on file for staff review. Upon completion of review, staff will submit a supplement detailing options and possible course action to committee members.) COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW ADJOURNMENT 18 Alderperson Duelge made a motion to adjourn at 6:06 PM. Alderperson Madden seconded. Motion Passed unanimously. Respectfully Submitted, Wendy Fredlund Recording Secretary 19 CITY OF MUSKEGO Staff Report to Public Works and Safety Committee To: Public Works and Safety Committee From: Scott Kroeger, PE, PLS, Public Works and Development Director Subject: Request by Golf View Estates. Date: October 20, 2025 Golf View Estates development is located on the north side of Ryan Drive approximately 200 feet east of the intersection of Brookview Court and Ryan Drive. I have included an aerial map to provide you reference. This development's preliminary plat was approved by Common Council in February 2024 as a 19-lot conservation subdivision. The lot sizes were all under an acre. The Public Works and Safety approved this plan in April 2025. The developer wants to go back to their original yield plan 15 lots that are 44,000 sf. I have attached their yield plan. On behalf of the developer, they would like to pursue this lot arrangement. They also would like to request approval for constructing the road as a rural road cross section per your standards instead of a curb and gutter street. The cost of the curb and storm sewer make the development too costly to construct. Plus, we feel that these larger lots on public sewer and water gives the city a unique development that should be very attractive to future residents of Muskego. We would still install sanitary sewer and water to serve the lots. The developer would still need to get a new preliminary plat and final plat approved through Plan Commission and Common Council. Per City of Muskego Municipal Code, the developer has the right to ask this committee for a ditch cross section instead of curb and gutter. The code is below. This committee is not looking at anything else with regards to this development. The City of Muskego Municipal Code 392-35 General Standards A.(2) Should a land division create parcels with an average size of greater than 40,000 square feet, the developer may choose to request a Public Works and Safety Committee decision regarding the type of improvements required. The only option the Public Works and Safety Committee will consider other than curb and gutter section is ditch section construction per City of Muskego specifications. Should this option be permitted, the ditch sections shall be maintained by the developer initially and ultimately the homeowners' association. Furthermore, these restrictions outlining the responsibility for this maintenance shall be recorded in a developer's agreement approved the City's Common Council concurrent with the final land division document. If Public Works and Safety Committee do allow a ditch section for this development, this will go to the Common Council for their full recommendation. 20 Recommendation for Action by the Committee: Planning and Engineering: Golf View Estates does not seem like a good candidate for curb and gutter removal. While the lots do meet the minimum size requirements to be able to ask for a possible curb and gutter waiver, the bulk of the lots are not too much larger than said minimum (40,000 SF) needed for this type of request. Also, other developments that have occurred along Ryan Rd. have curb and gutter, which have set a tone for the standard aesthetic in that area. These other neighborhoods with curb and gutter in the area include Champions Village, St. Andrews Condos and Muskego Lake Estates. Curb and gutter have a cleaner look with less required maintenance due to not needing to maintain the ditches that would otherwise be present. 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