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Plan Commission Minutes 08012023 ApprovedAPPROVED CITY OF MUSKEGO PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES C4 of 01 /2023 6:0�SKE O 6:00 PMiy Muskego City Hall, W182 S8200 Racine Avenue A CALL TO ORDER Mayor Petfalski called the meeting to order at 6:00 PM. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Those present recited the Pledge of Allegiance. ROLL CALL Present: Mayor Petfalski, Alderman Kubacki, Commissioners Bartlett, Buckmaster, Graf and Oliver and Planner Trzebiatowski. Absent: Commissioners Gazzana. STATEMENT OF PUBLIC NOTICE The meeting was noticed in accordance with the open meeting laws. PUBLIC HEARING None CONSENT BUSINESS RESOLUTION PC 045-2023 Approval of a Building, Site and Operation Plan Amendment for Clifford's Automotive Repair, Inc. located at S83 W18576 Saturn Drive / Tax Key No. 2223.004. RESOLUTION PC 047-2023 Approval of a one -lot Certified Survey Map for Jeff Kohne located at W200 S7203 Williams Drive / Tax Key No. 2190.999.008. Alderman Kubacki made a motion to approve the consent business engross. Commissioner Graf seconded. Motion to approve passed unanimously. OLD BUSINESS FOR CONSIDERATION RESOLUTION PC 033-2023 Approval of a Rustic Structure designation for Bryon Hrin located at S99 W20523 Parker Drive / Tax Key No. 2280.999.021. Planner Trzebiatowski provided the Commission with an explanation of an updated request from the petitioner. An email provided by the petitioner added clarity and reasoning. The petitioner stated they would like to keep the bulk of the buildings but would be willing to remove the milkhouse building and the southernmost addition to the main historic barn. The two buildings being sought the rustic structure designation are currently used for ag purposes as well as storage of personal items such as lawn mowers, tractors, lumber and other domestic storage. The pole barn/garage not being sought for rustic structure is used for personal storage of 4- wheelers, snowmobiles and other items. The petitioner would like to keep all the buildings together as they tell the story of the history of the farm and buildings. The petitioner is willing to plant a row of trees as a visual barrier for the residents to the south. Removing the addition to the barn and the shed would bring the total accessory 12,093 square feet or 7,896.82 sq. ft. over the limit without the rustic structure designation. Bryon Hrin, petitioner, asked Planner Trzebiatowski if the Parks and Recreation Committee if these buildings were considered rustic structures. Planner Trzebiatowski noted that that is not a decision for that committee to make. They make a recommendation to this Board as to whether the Plan Commission should approve the request and the Parks and Recreation Committee did make a positive recommendation to the Plan Commission. The petitioner noted the buildings are structurally sound, inspected by the City inspector. This being a historic site, he believes this qualifies for every item in the rustic structure definition including the labor, architecture, construction and design and local historical significance. Mr. Hrin would have the past landowner tell him stories of the barn and when they had the phone installed. He would love to put this all in writing and put up a plaque. Mayor Petfalski noted that at the last meeting there was some uneasiness in approving this as is for several reasons. First, the petitioner was aware that prior to subdividing the land that he would need to remove the structures or be granted rustic structure designation. Why didn't Mr. Hrin apply for rustic structures prior to subdividing the land. The petitioner stated that he felt that everything qualified. The petitioner also stated that subdividing the land was overwhelming along with running his business and some rentals. He also has other land in Muskego that he wants to do something with. The petitioner thought that if it qualifies for each and every thing. And then to show that everyone along parker drive wants to see the buildings. The mayor and several Plan Commission members thought that the rustic structure application should have been before the land division. The second area of concern was that every lot in the subdivision could have a house, pole barn and garage which is a lot of density. The Mayor hears from many residents their concerns about the density of the City. Mr. Hrin asked if this compares to 1/3-acre lots with all the concrete. Mayor Petfalski added that the Comprehensive Plan allows for more dense areas and less dense areas. Mr. Hrin said that he went through with the engineers all of the plans to ensure that the stormwater is addressed and pitched and swaled on the property. There is a lot of pervious areas and this is wide open with functioning field tiles. The City should allow people to keep the historic structures. Alderman Kubacki concurs with the Mayor that this rustic structure application should have been first. The simple solution is to retain lots 1, 2 and 3 retain and then everything is good. The petitioner noted that not concerning to the Plan Commission that he has a huge loan out on the development. He thought if everything qualifies, it didn't matter when he approached the Plan Commission as it is the same argument and the same buildings. Alderman Kubacki added that he understands he bought the property and subdivided it and now wants the best of both worlds. Commissioner Graf added that the two buildings that are now proposed to be razed is a very trivial amount on a square footage basis. He also agrees that this should have been done as a grand plan, not at the end. The historical value of the barn is appropriate to be discussed, but anything more as historical value is in question. The proposal is weak and does not know what he could come back with. But to move forward as an exception bucket, the Plan Commission has to recognize future considerations on proposals moving forward. He would prefer to send it back again rather than to vote on this. Commissioner Graf would like to see more concessions and a commitment. Mayor Petfalski asked when the structures need to be removed. Planner Trzebiatowski said that the land division was completed last fall. Commissioner Bartlett said that he drove past and now it looks great. Envisioning five or ten years it is a barn next to an apartment and looks more inappropriate. As mentioned last time, if this barn was part of the development it would have been a strong case. Agrees with the Mayor's comments especially the first, but as for density this is less dense and over time everything is getting more dense. It seems now it is too much building on the site and would like to see him come back with more coming down. It was also talked about with timelines. There are a lot of buildings and square footage and he is asking to break all the rules. There was a reason this was deferred. Commissioner Bartlett does not think it is realistic for this property to have that many buildings and that much square footage. The property has been broken down and the buildings must go with that. Mayor Petfalski noted that the milkhouse and addition to the barn did not sway the Commission at all. There are two options to vote now or defer again with a grander idea with some change. Alderman Kubacki noted that the most significant structure is the main barn without the U towards the southeast. If that stayed and all the other buildings were removed he would be in favor of that. Mayor Petfalski mentioned even keeping the main barn with the `L' and removing the other buildings would still be over, but is a significant change and may be able to persuade some Plan Commission members. Jeff, a neighbor just wanted to note that he enjoys the barn. If the only complaint is that timing and that this should have come forward with this first, then what is the difference. Herald DeBack provided a statement in support of the barns. Alderman Kubacki reiterated that the two options are to vote tonight, which the petitioner may not like the outcome or to defer again and the petitioner can come back with a better plan. Alderman Kubacki asked about the other rustic structure approvals. Planner Trzebiatowski added that he thinks in another case it was the only outbuilding that was over just a little. None of the others were significantly over and numerous situations it was the only accessory structure. Mayor Petfalski added a few suggestions. One to get rid of the other outbuildings. A second would be to keep one of the lots. A third would be take a portion of the other lots. The Plan Commission does not want to remove the barn as there aren't new barns being built. Previously Alderman Kubacki made a motion to approve Resolution PC 033-2023. Commissioner Graf seconded. Commissioner Graf made a motion to defer Resolution PC 033-2023. Commissioner Oliver seconded. Resolution PC 033-2023 was deferred again unanimously. NEW BUSINESS FOR CONSIDERATION RESOLUTION PC 046-2023 Approval of a Building, Site and Operation Plan for La Granica located at S66 W14523 Janesville Road, S67 W14543 Janesville Road and S67 W14549 Janesville Road / Tax Key Nos. 2168.994, 2165.984 and 2165.984.001. Mayor Petfalski noted that this petition has been withdrawn. MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS Notice of September Plan Commission meeting date changed to September 12, 2023 ADJOURNMENT Alderman Kubacki made a motion to adjourn. Commissioner Graf seconded. Motion to adjourn passed unanimously. Respectfully Submitted, Aaron Fahl, AICP Planner