PCM20090303
CITY OF MUSKEGO
PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES approved
6:00 PM Tuesday March 3, 2009
Muskego City Hall, Muskego Room, W182 S8200 Racine Avenue
Mayor Johnson called the meeting to order at 6:00 PM.
Those present recited the Pledge of Allegiance.
PRESENT
Mayor Johnson, Ald. Fiedler, Commissioners Hulbert, Noah, Stinebaugh, Jacques, Director
Muenkel, and Recording Secretary McMullen.
ABSENT
Commissioner Burke
Recording Secretary McMullen noted that the meeting was properly noticed on February 27,
2009 in accordance with the Open Meeting Law.
MINUTES
Commissioner Stinebaugh made a motion to approve the minutes of the February 3, 2009
meeting. Commissioner Noah seconded. Upon a voice vote, motion to approve the minutes
was ADOPTED unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARING
Secretary McMullen read the public hearing notice to consider a renewal of a Conditional Use in
accordance with Section 14 of the City of Muskego Zoning Ordinance for Payne & Dolan for the
purpose of continued mining and processing of sand and gravel, and the extension of use of an
asphalt plant at the NW corner of Crowbar Road and Janesville Road, in the NE ¼ and SE ¼ of
Section 13. Director Muenkel explained the public hearing is to renew a conditional use grant
for Payne and Dolan for the continued operation of a gravel plant located on Janesville Road in
the western portion of Muskego. An annual review is required to make sure all operations are
being done in a safe manner. A site inspection was completed and the site is well maintained.
One complaint was received over the past year regarding night trucking and it was remedied
immediately. The City also received a letter from the EPA stated that the superfund site to the
east of Payne and Dolan may have future effects on the Payne and Dolan property.
Mayor Johnson stated that Clint Weninger, a representative of Payne and Dolan, was present
to answer any questions and asked for members in the audience to address the Commission
with their input, concerns, questions or comments. No one came forward.
There being no further questions or comments, the Public Hearing was closed.
OLD BUSINESS FOR CONSIDERATION
RESOLUTION #P.C. 006-2009 – Recommendation to Common Council to amend Chapter 17
Section 5.02(7) and Chapter 18 Sections 18.31(3)(b), 18.32(3)(b), 18.33 (3)(b), & 18.80 (2) of
the Municipal Code relating to wetland protection offsets. Director Muenkel explained this item
was deferred at the last meeting to allow Ald. Schaefer time to meet with staff and the DNR.
Director Muenkel added that even though Muskego’s ordinance and staff already will assure
that stormwater plans and grading plans are submitted for major land disturbance activities near
a wetland, staff is recommending to add extra language that will further the notion that Muskego
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intends to protect the wetlands with proper grading and stormwater plans, which will show that
any disturbed area will be graded in a manner that will not negatively affect the wetland
structure as it existed prior to the disturbance.
Ald. Fiedler made a motion to AMEND Resolution #P.C. 006-2009 to include BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, That the Plan Commission recommends the following text be added to Section
5.02(7)B to ensure the further protection of land disturbance activities near wetlands:
Any land disturbance activities that occur on a parcel with a wetland protection offset shall
receive the utmost scrutiny of how the activity might affect the wetland. When applicable, the
disturbance activity will be subject to grading and stormwater management plans that ensure
runoff from the disturbance is routed to the proper conveyance system and that the runoff does
not negatively affect the wetland structure as it existed prior to the disturbance. Commissioner
Jacques seconded.
Ald. Fiedler questioned the meaning of the additional wording and if it was necessary with
having other codes in place. Director Muenkel agreed there are codes in place that address
this and this was added to address Ald. Schaefer’s concerns.
Ald. Fiedler questioned the meaning of “negatively affect” the wetlands. Director Muenkel
explained this would be in the case of excess run off going into the wetland. Ald. Fiedler
suggested changing the wording to reflect that. Ald. Fiedler made a motion to TWICE AMEND
Resolution #P.C. 006-2009 to change “not negatively affect the wetland…” to “not create
excess run off to the wetland…”.
Ald. Schaefer stated her main concern is to protect the wetlands. She has discussed this issue
with the DNR and after doing additional research on other communities is recommending an
amendment to include a 35-foot setback where a wetland joins a stream or river that connects
to the lakes, with permits being required. Ald. Schaefer distributed language for the proposed
amendment. Discussion took place over the definition of stream and river as a navigable
waterway. Commissioner Noah cautioned defining a navigable waterway, river, or stream as
the DNR has a definition of navigable waterway that may not be the same as what someone
would consider being able to float a boat down.
Ald. Fiedler stated he appreciates the intent, but would prefer to have more time to review and
for staff to review. Ald. Fiedler suggested deferring this and if there are any more changes staff
should be notified prior to the next meeting for time to review and research. Ald. Fiedler made
a motion to defer. Commissioner Hulbert seconded.
OLD BUSINESS SCHEDULED FOR DEFERRAL
None.
CONSENT BUSINESS
Ald. Fiedler requested Resolution #P.C. 019-2009 be removed from the consent agenda and
made a motion to approve engross. Ald. Fiedler withdrew his motion. Commissioner Hulbert
requested Resolutions #P.C. 013-2009 and #P.C. 015-2009 be removed from the consent
agenda also. Ald. Fiedler made a motion to ADOPT Resolutions #P.C. 009-2009, 010-2009,
012-2009, 014-2009016-2009, 020-2009, 021-2009, 022-2009, 024-2009, 026-2009, 027-2009
engross. Commissioner Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll call vote, the motion passed
unanimously.
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RESOLUTION #P.C. 009-2009 – Renewal of a Conditional Use Grant for the purpose of
continued mining and processing of sand and gravel, and the extension of use of an asphalt
plant for Payne & Dolan in the NE ¼ and SE ¼ of Section 13 (Crowbar Road). Resolution
#P.C. 009-2009 was ADOPTED unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 010-2009 - Approval of an Annual Review for the George Alex property
located in the NE ¼ and SE ¼ of Section 25 (Tax Key No. 2257.984 / Loomis Drive). Resolution
#P.C. 010-2009 was ADOPTED unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 012-2009 – Approval of an Annual Review for Jetzfuel, located in the
SW ¼ of Section 2 (Tax Key No. 2167.995.011 / Janesville Road). Resolution #P.C. 012-2009
was ADOPTED unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 014-2009– Approval of an Annual Review for self storage units for
Burback Builders LLC located in the Muskego Industrial Park in the NW ¼ of Section 16 (Tax
Key No. 2221.016.001 / W185 S8095 Racine Avenue). Resolution #P.C. 014-2009 was
ADOPTED unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 016-2009 – Approval of an Annual Review for Marx Pioneer Inn
property located in the SE ¼ of Section 9 (Tax Key No. 2196.983 / W180 S7808 Pioneer
Drive). Resolution #P.C. 016-2009 was ADOPTED unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 020-2009 – Approval of an Annual Review for the Muskego Gateway
Entertainment Complex located in the SE ¼ of Section 5 (Tax Key No. 2180.994.001 / S67
W19491 Tans Drive.) Resolution #P.C. 020-2009 was ADOPTED unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 021-2009 – Approval of an Annual Review for the RD Meyer Mini
Storage property located in the NE ¼ of Section 2 (Tax Key No. 2165.998.012 / W145 S6550
Tess Corners Drive). Resolution #P.C. 021-2009 was ADOPTED unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 022-2009 – Approval of an Annual Review for the Kuehn property
located in the NE ¼ of Section 17 (Tax Key No. 2225.999.012 / S81 W19255 Janesville Road).
Resolution #P.C. 022-2009 was ADOPTED unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 024-2009 – Approval of an Annual Review for the Central Bark Doggy
Day Care located in the NW ¼ of Section 16 (Tax Key No. 2222.984.003 / S81 W18460 Gemini
Drive). Resolution #P.C. 024-2009 was ADOPTED unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 026-2009 – Approval of a One Lot Extraterritorial Certified Survey Map
for the Thomas Guntly property located in the NE ¼ of Section 14 in the Town Of Norway.
Resolution #P.C. 026-2009 was ADOPTED unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 027-2009 – Approval of an Annual Review for the sale of fireworks for
Vince and Heather Siegel at the Jetz Fuel property located in the SW ¼ of Section 2 (Tax Key
No. 2167.995.011 / S69 W15461 Janesville Road). Resolution #P.C. 027-2009 was ADOPTED
unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 013-2009 – Approval of an Annual Review for G & G Specialized
Carriers LLC located in the NE ¼ of Section 17 (Tax Key No. 2225.999.019 / Apollo Drive).
Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to ADOPT Resolution #013-2009. Commissioner
Stinebaugh seconded. Commissioner Hulbert questioned if there were any neighbor concerns.
Director Muenkel explained fines were paid last year and the property owner went back to Plan
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Commission for storage on the west side of the building and since then there have been no
complaints. Ald. Schaefer added she did check with the neighbors and did not receive any
complaints either. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 013-2009 was ADOPTED
unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 015-2009 – Approval of an Annual Review for Bushy’s Pub and Grill
located in the SW ¼ of Section 2 (Tax Key No. 2167.997.001 / S67 W14831 Janesville Road).
Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to ADOPT Resolution #015-2009. Commissioner
Stinebaugh seconded. Suzi Link, W172 S7297 Lannon Drive registered to speak under public
comment. Ms. Link requested Plan Commission defer this item for the outcome of the pending
investigation. Ms. Link stated by doing so this may give the ability to better manage the
situation.
Mayor Johnson explained that is a separate issue and recommended letting the normal
procedures be followed with the Police Department bringing forward complaints on licensing to
the Finance Committee. Mayor Johnson noted the City Attorney recommended the same.
Commissioner Hulbert agreed and added the issues being reviewed are BSO issues relating to
traffic and noise. Commissioner Hulbert questioned if residents are complaining about cut
through traffic. Mayor Johnson stated that the residents do not have an issue with it, but the
property owner has had problems with traffic cutting through. Mayor Johnson explained gates
could be effective, but they have not been installed. Mayor Johnson noted that the property
owner placed signs up that have seemed to help. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. was
ADOPTED unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 019-2009 – Approval of an Annual Review for the Wreford property
located in the NW ¼ of Section 13 (Tax Key No. 2210.989.001 / W135 S8266 Durham Drive).
Ald. Fiedler made a motion to ADOPT Resolution #P.C. 019-2009. Commissioner Hulbert
seconded. Ald. Fiedler explained this is the red barn on HiView and Durham. Ald. Fiedler
stated he received an email from a resident in relation to the Conservation Commission. Ald.
Fiedler recommended taking this item off the Plan Commission annual review list and turn over
responsibility to Conservation Commission. Director Muenkel explained there are four rustic
structures in the City and this is the only one that goes through the annual review process.
Originally the annual review was established when the property owner applied to obtain rustic
structure approval. At that time the barn was in disrepair. All issues have been resolved as of
two years ago. Conservation Commission could review yearly along with the other three
structures. The 2020 Comprehensive Plan recommends the City become more proactive in
working with property owners to preserve these types of structures. Ald. Fiedler made a motion
to AMEND Resolution #P.C. 019-2009 to stop this annual review by the Plan Commission
and transfer rustic structure authority to the Conservation Commission. Commissioner
Stinebaugh seconded. Commissioner Hulbert expressed concern as to whether the
Conservation Commission has the ability to take the rustic structure designation off the building
or would they make recommendations to Plan Commission. Director Muenkel explained the
rustic structure ordinance is vague and should be reviewed to define responsibility.
Commission Hulbert stated as long as the ordinance is reviewed he would be in approval.
Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 019-2009 is AMENDED unanimously. Upon a roll call
vote, AMEDNED Resolution #P.C. 019-2009 is ADOPTED unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS FOR CONSIDERATION
RESOLUTION #P.C. 011-2009 – Approval of an Annual Review for George Alex / Robert
Jacob property located in the NE ¼ of Section 25 (Tax Key No. 2257.973.001 / S98 W12575
Loomis Court & W125 S9912 North Cape Road). Ald. Fiedler made a motion to ADOPT
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Resolution #P.C. 011-2009. Commissioner Stinebaugh seconded. Director Muenkel explained
staff did a follow up inspection last night and the issues have been addressed. Ald. Fiedler
explained he spoke to the owner and the tenant and they will be more careful in the future.
Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 011-2009 was ADOPTED unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 017-2009 – Approval of an Annual Review for the Durham Hill Auto
property located in the NE ¼ of Section 25 (S98 W12578 Loomis Drive / Tax Key No.
2257.982.002). Commission Stinebaugh made a motion to ADOPT Resolution #17-2009. Ald.
Fiedler seconded. Director Muenkel explained there have been too many cars on the property.
An inspection was done yesterday and this has been addressed. Director Muenkel noted there
are flags on the building that have not been approved and a letter has been sent to the property
owners to remove or come to Plan Commission for approval. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution
#017-2009 was ADOPTED unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 018-2009 – Approval of an Annual Review for Frey Auto located in the
NE ¼ & SE ¼ of Section 34 (S107 W16311 Loomis Road / Tax Key Nos. 2296.996 &
2293.996.002). Ald. Fiedler made a motion to ADOPT Resolution #P.C. 018-2009.
Commissioner Noah seconded. Director Muenkel noted there was an issue with the number of
cars on the property and where they are parked, but it has been resolved as of the inspection
yesterday. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #018-2009 was ADOPTED unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 023-2009 – Approval of an Annual Review for the Petri Car Wash
located in the NE ¼ of Section 17 (Tax Key No. 2225.999.020 / S79 W18937 Janesville Road). Ald.
Fiedler made a motion to ADOPT Resolution #P.C. 023-2009. Commissioner Stinebaugh seconded.
Director Muenkel explained this item was originally on for an annual review for site concerns and
noise. There have been no complaints or issues with operations. There is a scrolling LED sign that
did not follow the sign requirements with the amount of messages. This issue has been addressed.
Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #023-2009 was ADOPTED unanimously.
#P.C. 025-2009 – Review of a Conceptual Land Division for The DeBack Farm located in the
SW 1/4 and the SE 1/4 of Section 32 (Tax Key No. 2287.999 / Racine Avenue). Director
Muenkel explained the petitioner previously submitted a concept plat in January 2009 that had
24 single-family parcels and 23 two-unit condos structures. Plan Commission denied that
request stating they would like to see an all single-family proposal that meets an approved yield
plan and possibly the Conservation Subdivision ordinance. The new submittal proposes 47
single-family parcels, in a Conservation Subdivision format, ranging from 14,000 sq ft to over an
acre. The yield plan shows the parcel could be developed into 43 parcels by right. The
proposal would be developed under the Conservation Subdivision Ordinance as a Planned
Development; which required 60% open space being preserved. Up to four bonus parcels are
allowed if a developer meets the conservation standards. The lots towards Racine Avenue are
in the Norway Sewer District and shown to be 14,000 sq ft. Because these lots are proposed
as a Planned Development they are allowed to be smaller sizes, however, lots usually in this
zoning would usually be no smaller than 20,000 sq ft. The lots to the east are non-sewered and
are shown to be 33,000 sq ft, where the zoning would usually be no smaller than 40,000 sq ft.
Since this would be a Planned Development some of the rules, such as lot size, can be waived.
The proposed conceptual plat looks like it could meet the City’s Conservation Subdivision
Ordinance and will include open space around every lot in the subdivision. The two lots to the
east are shown as private lots with the front 40,000 sq ft for the house and the rest of the area
as agricultural workable lands and counted towards the open space requirement. Director
Muenkel noted the following potential issues:
The existing farm structures may need to be removed or deemed as rustic structures
after the re-platting of the area.
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Street dedications and a trail incorporated along Racine Avenue
Reduced lot sizes as low as 14,000 sq ft in sewered and 33,000 in unsewered
Allowing private platted property as open space
Two people registered to speak during public comment.
Michael Kuwitzky, W188 S10793 Kelsey Drive
th
Density is just as heavy as the proposal from January 6
The trail borders his property and has concerns with the type of traffic on the trails
Concerns with run off water, fire suppression, and vehicle traffic
Does not support the development
RJ DeGoey, W198 S10989 Racine Ave
With the condos taken out it meets the density/amount of people
Lives on a 9,000 sq ft lot and there are smaller lots to the north
If the plan follows City guidelines, there are no real problems
Supports the development
Bill Carity spoke on behalf of the development. Mr. Carity explained since the last meeting they
have taken the condos out of the development. The lots are smaller and pulled back from
Racine Ave. There is 150 feet of green space between Racine Ave and the lots. One cul-de-
sac is proposed that extends to the south and a new road stub to the north had been added.
There is a mile and a half of trail systems for pedestrians with the possibility for equestrian trails
for the two larger lots. ATV’s and snowmobiles would not be allowed. The two larger lots
should have some type of agricultural production, which could possibly include beans, hayfield,
and prairie grass. The theme for the development will be agriculture and water quality
preservation. Most of the parcel drains to the south towards Crystal Lake. There will be a 75-
foot buffer around the lake regardless of the quality of the wetlands. All the water from the
property will be preserved and treated before it drains to the lake. Mr. Carity addressed
concerns from the past meeting and explained water does not drain to Lake Denoon, there are
three cross culverts from the west to east across Racine Avenue that flow down the roadside
ditch and into a channel that drains to Crystal Lake. Mr. Carity concluded by saying with
respect to the lot sizes whenever there is a Planned Development in a Conservation
Subdivision there must be a trade off and the density is significantly less then the original
proposal.
Ald. Schaefer gave positive comments and concerns:
Private road eliminated
Densities are better
Likes the pond located up front, more trees could be added
Concerns with open space private platted property
Concerns with reduced lot size
Likes the trail system
Commissioner Hulbert stated this is more in the spirit of the zoning and feels there are many
things to move forward with. Commissioner Hulbert expressed concern with the size of the lots
and suggested the 14,000 sq ft lots should be increased to 15,000 sq ft. Likes the trail concept.
Concerned with private ownership of open space. Commissioner Stinebaugh also expressed
concern with open space being allowed on private land. Commissioner Stinebaugh added that
private lands tend to creep into the open space. Commissioner Stinebaugh also noted
concerns with the trail system to the east stating it looked clumsy and too linear and requested
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more information on how the trails will be developed and maintained. Mr. Carity explained
whether the trails are TB, bark chips, or asphalt they will be maintained by the homeowners
association.
Mayor Johnson questioned if 30,000 sq ft lots will be large enough for a mound system. Mr.
Carity explained he would put together a graphic showing how the lots will be placed on the
properties. Mr. Carity added that at the time of preliminary plat soil borings will be done to know
exactly where the mound systems will be placed. He added they will not be placed in front of
the homes. Discussion took place as to whether individuals mound systems would be needed
or if there could be a community system. Mr. Carity explained mains and laterals would still
need to be installed, which would be more cost effective if there were 50-75 lots instead, but he
would look into the possibility.
Commissioner Hulbert questioned if these plans would work for Mr. Posbrig’s future plans. Mr.
Posbrig stated it could possibly work. He also noted that the back half of the DeBack property
drains onto his property to the north.
Director Muenkel recapped the issues heard from Plan Commission members:
15,000 sq ft sewered lots desired
Open spaces should be owned by the association, and should not be on private lots.
Mound systems should be to the back of the lots
A plan should be established for the open spaces – prairie/landscaping
Resolve water/grading issues
Work with neighbor to the north with street stub
RESOLUTION #P.C. 007-2009 – Recommendation to Common Council to adopt the 2020
Comprehensive Plan for the City of Muskego. Commissioner Stinebaugh made a motion to
ADOPT Resolution #P.C. 007-2009. Ald. Fiedler seconded. The draft 2020 Comprehensive
Plan has been distributed for review. Staff is recommending deferral until the April meeting, as
there are ordinance changes and a public hearing will be held. The Plan is based on the
Wisconsin Smart Growth Statute, which mandates that every municipality put forth a plan with
facts and figures on the following elements:
Transportation
Housing
Economic Development
Agricultural, Cultural, and Natural Resources
Land Use
Intergovernmental Cooperation
Utilities and Community Facilities
Director Muenkel reviewed the land use map and discussed notes that were placed on the map,
which revert back to the text for additional information. Director Muenkel explained there are
Conservation Preservation areas marked on the land use map. Most of these properties are
zoned Agriculture, which allows one lot per 2.75 acres. A survey was sent out to the entire City
and over 60% of the surveys returned said they wanted the City to preserve the rural heritage
and open space. By implementing Conservation Preservation Subdivisions, property owners
would still be able to divide into the same amount of parcels, but would have to cluster the lots
and preserve 60% open space. Also, bonus parcels would be allowed if they met the
requirements of the Conservation Preservation Subdivision. Under certain situations Council
could waive the Conservation Preservation requirements if the property owner could prove the
proposed development still fits the intent of conservation.
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Commissioner Hulbert expressed concern that the Conservation Preservation Subdivision will
not have the intended results making development more desirable and easier to run roads and
sewers to the clustered lots then to 3-acre lots. This may encourage development. Ald. Fiedler
noted that eventually the land will be developed and it would be more beneficial to the City to
develop with clustered lots and open spaces. Commissioner Noah noted there may be a need
to be more open to situations that would normally not be allowed.
The Commissioners agreed that Director Muenkel, staff, and the Comprehensive Plan
Committee did a great job drafting this Plan.
NEW BUSINESS PLACED ON FILE
RESOLUTION #P.C. 004-2009 – Approval of a Four Lot Certified Survey Map for the Thomas
Wernette property located in the NE 1/4 of Section 12 and the SE 1/4 of Section 1 (Tax Key
No. 2205.041 / W128 S7110 Flintlock Trail).
RESOLUTION #P.C. 028-2009 – Approval of a Two Lot Certified Survey Map for the Thiele
property located in the SW 1/4 of Section 17 (Tax Key No. 2227.991 / S83 W20342 Janesville
Road).
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS
None.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to adjourn at 8:20 PM. Commissioner Stinebaugh seconded.
Upon a voice vote, motion carried. With no further business to come before the Commission, the
meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Kellie McMullen,
Recording Secretary
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