Park & Rec Board - MINUTES - 5/18/2009
City of Muskego
PARKS & RECREATION BOARD
Monday, May 18, 2009
Approved 6/8/09
Board President Whipple called the monthly meeting of the Parks and Recreation Board (Board), City of
Muskego, to order at 5:30 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Those present recited the Pledge of Allegiance.
The meeting notice was posted in accordance with the Open Meeting Law on Wednesday, May 14, 2009.
Present: Mr. Gary Boisits, Mr. Eric Hetzel, Mr. Jerald Hulbert, Mr. Brett Hyde (arrived 5:55 p.m.), Ald. Neome
Schaumberg, Mr. Toby Whipple, Director Anderson and Recreation Program Manager Tammy Dunn
Absent: Mrs. Kelly Koble, (excused)
GUESTS: Ald. Noah Fiedler, Rick Henneberry, Scott Lago, Ken Bitter, Phil Sandoval, Bluhm Park Neighbors
INTRODUCTION OF BOARD MEMBERS
Ald. Neome Schaumberg was introduced to the Parks and Recreation Board members.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
April 20, 2009 Minutes
Mr. Eric Hetzel moved to approve the minutes of the April 20, 2009 meeting, seconded by Mr. Jerald
Hulbert. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried .
PERSONAL APPEARANCES:
2009 Community Festival—Scott Lago
On behalf of the Muskego Community Festival Committee, Scott Lago made a formal request for use of
Veterans Memorial Park facilities and the Old Settlement Centre parking area for their annual community
festival. The festival dates are August 27-30 with set up taking place on the Monday before, August 24, and
tear down of the festival on Monday, August 31. Like last year, they will run Thursday night, 6:00 p.m.-10:00
p.m., as a family night. New to the festival is the Teen Advisory Board’s “Muskego Idol” contest. Some of the
vendors may elect to open up to serve refreshments. It’s strictly “no alcohol” event on Thursday. He stated
that the garbage would be taken care of by the Muskego High School downhill ski team and Veolia. The
bathrooms will be open for their event and they will monitor them and restock the paper products. Director
Anderson requested that they routinely monitor the boardwalk as the department has noticed garbage in that
area after their event and some damage to the signage. Director Anderson inquired if there was any
contingency in case of rains. Mr. Lago stated that they have not made a contingency plan yet but they have
talked in the past about setting up on the paved roadway. He’ll bring it up at their meeting on Wednesday. Mr.
Hulbert asked who paid for the restoration two years ago. Mr. Lago said the festival committee paid for it and
Director Anderson clarified it was for the product, the city covered the staff time. Mr. Hulbert would like more
patrols through the area of the Old Settlement Centre. Last year, the log cabin had a door kicked in. They
need good patrol on the boardwalk. Director Anderson asked if the times were the same as well as the time
the music plays. Mr. Lago stated Thursday, 6:00 p.m.-10:00 p.m.; Friday, 5:00 p.m.-11:30 p.m.; Saturday,
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12:00 p.m.-11:30 p.m. and Sunday, 12:00 p.m.-8:00 p.m. The music would stop the same time as previous
years. Mr. Hulbert moved to approve the festival request for this year. Mr. Boisits seconded. Upon a
voice vote, the motion carried.
Lion’s Club Event at Idle Isle Park—Scott Lago
Ken Bitter and Scott Lago of the Muskego Lion’s Club presented their request for usage of Little Muskego
Lake, a one-day event, and usage of Idle isle Park for June 27, 2009. They propose to have a food and
beverage tent with music available. The hours of operation would be 3:00 p.m.-11:00 p.m. The hours for the
band from 6:00 p.m.-10:00 p.m. Their goal is to bring in about 400-500 attendees. They are proposing to take
control of the park and offer it back to the public to come and visit their event. They are looking for foot traffic
as well as boat traffic. They are looking at this event as an opportunity to start an annual event to raise money
for the club, noting that 50 percent of what they raise gets funneled back into the community. They would not
be taking up any of the parking area for boat trailers. However, weather permitting, they would be looking at
adding a couple rows of parking on the grass for cars and boats anchoring in the area of the beach. Director
Anderson asked if they were looking for the beach to be closed during their event. Mr. Lago stated that if they
were to take over, they would be looking for the beach to be closed starting at 3:00 p.m. as they would not
want to assume that responsibility. Mr. Hulbert said they would have to leave the piers open for those coming
and going on the lake. Director Anderson would like them to have extra toilets, extra dumpsters at their costs.
The facility bathrooms can be used but they would have to restock the paper products. Speaker placement for
any bands faced so the majority of the noise is going out over the lake. Launch area would have to remain
open. They also need the paperwork filled out with the department. He also recommended they contact the
Little Muskego Lake District about the event as they have weed cutters in the area. Mr. Hulbert moved to
approve the request and grant them two rows of grass parking if weather permits; otherwise, with
them being responsible for restoration of any damage. Ald. Schaumberg seconded. They would take
over the park from 3:00 p.m.-11:00 p.m. They would be setting a tent to the west side of the shelter with the
beer and music underneath and have a food preparation tent on the east side. They still have to meet with the
Waukesha County Health Department regarding the food preparation and sales. Mr. Lago shared that they
had already taken their request to the Finance Committee and that approval was given contingent upon the
Parks and Recreation Board’s approval. Director Anderson advised that the parks staff would not be in
attendance once they started set up for their event. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Horn Field Improvements—Rick Henneberry
Mr. Rick Henneberry provided a sketch of their proposal for the Horn Field improvements. The Muskego
Athletic Association, Warriors organization and Impact are willing to put forth the funds for the project. He had
two quotes each on the dual bullpen and the fencing. He was asking for the Board’s approval so they could
move forward on the project. Director Anderson felt it was a worthwhile project. They would have to work with
the department staff to make sure it is completed correctly. Mr. Hetzel asked how long it would take to
complete? Mr. Henneberry said 1-2 days for the actual mound installation and the fencing, 1 day. Mr. Hulbert
moved to approve. Mr. Hetzel seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Moorland Park Cameras—Phil Sandoval, Centec Security
Director Anderson refreshed the Board members on the history leading up to the installation of cameras at
Moorland Park. Board members were in receipt of a proposal with two options from Centec Security for
security cameras. Mr. Sandoval explained the options and what type of image quality could be realized. He
recommended going with the higher-priced option. The type of system is expandable up to 8 cameras, initially
starting with four—two looking at the skateboard park directly, one looking at the parking lot entrance and the
other looking at the playground. They are asking the city to provide poles to mount the cameras, the location
of the Ethernet connection, and a pad with a housing to house the DVR unit. This would give the city the
availability to view this from city hall as well as the police from their on-board laptops. They would be able to
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visibly see what is happening. As the park is very dark, he proposed IR (Infrared) for night time viewing with a
75’+ radius. Director Anderson reviewed the Ethernet connection and the cost for the Time Warner connection.
The connection would be purchased at $59.96 per month. The impact on the department budget would be
$719 annually. Mr. Sandoval mentioned the three-year warranty that comes with the equipment. Director
Anderson stated that they still have to meet with We Energies regarding the electricity to the park. Everything
would be done in the grass areas. This is expected to be up by mid-July. Mr. Whipple asked about the
housing for the camera. Mr. Sandoval said it consisted of blower and a heater for all weather and alongside of
it will be an infrared device mounted to give the night vision. Mr. Hulbert asked how many times the company
would come out to focus the camera. Mr. Sandoval stated that for the first year they would come out as much
as they want. They do offer a maintenance package but he recommended time and material calls. Mr.
Hulbert moved to accept the proposal for Option 1 in the amount of $10,919. Mr. Brett Hyde seconded.
Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Reconsideration of Bluhm Park (North) Prairie Plantings
Mr. Boisits moved to reconsider the prairie plantings at Bluhm Park. Ald. Schaumberg seconded.
Upon a voice vote, the motion to reconsider carried with 4 ayes and 2 nays (Mr. Hyde and Mr. Hulbert)
Mr. Boisits stated in rethinking the issue through, the city is making a good deal effort in budgeting itself. The
Board may be talking minor amounts of money here but the Board is making exceptions for four or five
residents; basically, extend the use of their property. A budget was developed in terms of doing the cutting and
there has been thorough discussion as far as that is concerned. He considered the fact that there are areas of
parkland that are not being used that the Board is ignoring or spending more money on , if not for cutting, for
prairie grass, etc. Maybe there should be some consideration if residents are that adamant as far as avoiding
plantings, etc. Perhaps, the Board should allow the city to proceed with the budget they developed, save that
money, and the suggestion was made by the very residents when they spoke to allow the residents to
purchase the property that is not being used. He did not want to set a precedence or shrink the parks but
sometimes the parks get land that they never thought of, it just came with the parcels that they were dealing.
When the Board starts dealing with maintaining the land and it starts having an effect on the budget and start
making budget considerations; for example, what grass to cut, what grass not to cut, all the attention by a fixed
number of residents that are directly affected by that as opposed to the whole public, then perhaps there
should be a consideration that the people that wanted that particular use which is not being used by the public
at all that they be allowed to consider purchasing the property. It serves several means of doing it, first of all,
the city doesn’t have to maintain it; second of all, the city gets some income from the sale of those portions;
and third, a regular tax-base income; however, minor it might be in terms of the property purchase in the way it
has been assessed. It’s the only thing he asked as far as reconsidering the issue. It is opening some doors
and it is obvious that the Board is always going to have people that are close in the neighborhood deciding
things like this. Frankly, the people that were there, and here today, they are the ones receiving the direct
benefit from what they asked as a direct benefit to their property. There wasn’t any other argument or thing
proposed that showed it would benefit the public one way or another. This was going to benefit them. Again,
it’s the offer that was made while they were arguing this that they would be willing to consider buying the
property that had him think of this. The Parks and Recreation Board are in the business of deciding on parks
for the community, etc. If the Board decides certain portions of the parks aren’t worth maintaining or aren’t of
use to the public, why not consider the people next to it that they have the right to purchase it and the city can
get the tax proceeds out of it, plus the income from the minor purchase. That concluded Mr. Boisits comments
on his issue of reconsideration. Ald. Schaumberg agreed with Mr. Boisits that if someone can use it; if it is
prairie grass, no one can use, it would be great to have the neighbors purchase it and the money can go for
something else that is needed. Board President Whipple was reluctant to sell park land and setting a
precedent. He did not have an issue with the neighbors mowing the area. Director Anderson was not in favor
of selling park land. Since the April meeting, he now has the cost of $500 annually for that area to be mowed.
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Mr. Boisits felt that the neighbors mowing the area was not out of line; the property being mowed was a direct
benefit. Mr. Hyde also recalled the residents expressed their willingness to mow the area. Mr. Hulbert stated
that the Board should separate out the selling first of all and if so, then go along that path; if not, then look at
other options. He is adamantly opposed to selling of park land. Ald. Fiedler addressed the Board members.
In discussion with the neighbors, the question was whether or not the piece of property was actually used for
park land. The residents advised him that sometimes the football people use it and some of the baseball
teams. Now that the reconsideration has passed, he said it might be a good idea to talk to the M.A.A. and see
if the baseball teams actually use it for a park. In his opinion, if the property is actually used for park purposes
as opposed to personal purposes, then it is park property and should be continued to be maintained; if not,
then the question is what do they do with it? There are at least two options, one is sale which was brought up
by the residents and the other is potentially having to pay for mowing. It might benefit everyone to spend
some time researching its use. Director Anderson stated that he had discussions with M.A.A. Board President
who had spoken to the M.A.A. flag football chairman and Director Anderson also spoke to the rugby person
that was in charge and M.A.A. for baseball itself. There are football teams that do use it. There are baseball
teams that use it. Rugby does not. The question was asked if it went to prairie, are there other areas in the
park that they could utilize and the answer was yes. Their main concern was that the prairie grass not be in the
area they use for games. Board President Whipple asked about the value of the land? Director Anderson
would have to get it from the assessor. Mr. Hyde was opposed to selling the land unless it was absolutely
needed. Board President Whipple was opposed to selling it. Mr. Hulbert said he would not vote to sell it.
Director Anderson clarified that right now, based on their motion at the April meeting, the area gets mowed.
He was advised by Mayor Johnson the $500 cost of mowing would be cut from the department’s 2010 budget.
Mr. Hulbert moved to defer any action until next month. Mr. Boisits seconded. Upon a voice vote, the
motion carried.
NEW BUSINESS:
2009 Baseball Field Usage Fees
Board members were in receipt of a copy of a letter sent to the leagues advising them of the baseball field
usage fees for the traveling teams for 2009. It was noted that there were no maintenance fees as the leagues
will be prepping their own game fields. Mr. Hetzel moved to approve the 2009 usage fees. Ald.
Schaumberg seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Moorland Park Playground
Mrs. Dunn provided the Board members with the 3-D renderings and a map of the site. She, accompanied by
Director Anderson, marked out the site at Moorland Park based on the information received from Game Time.
The playground will be located between the parking lot and the soccer field. It will be on the west side of the
parking lot. There will be a berm between the parking lot and the playground area to act as a buffer. The berm
will be about three feet high. Mr. Hulbert questioned if the police would be able to see the area from the street.
Mrs. Dunn stated that the size of the structure would allow the police to see it. She said Mr. Zagar had been
contacted about putting in some trees for shade in the area. Every playground piece is wide open so you can
see what is happening on each playground piece. There will be benches and age signage indicating what the
two playground areas are. It will be similar to Veterans Memorial Park with the three-foot wide concrete apron
around it. She added that one resident with a wheel-chair bound child was contacted and the resident
suggested a change to the access to the slide and the rest of the playground was satisfactory. Game Time
was contacted to change the access. DPW (Department of Public Works) will make sure the site is just the
right slope for drainage purposes. The colors selected are blue, green and slate. The swing sets will have a
rubber mat underneath the fibar. The cost of the playground structure is $75,000. Some preliminary costs for
the concrete to do the apron came to $5,000. This puts the playground cost at the $80,000 mark that was
budgeted. Because Game Time is part of U. S. Communities and Muskego is one of the communities that
participates, the department is getting about 16 percent off the price, a savings of $14,000 which is reflected in
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the $75,000. Mr. Hyde moved to approve the expenditure not to exceed $80,000 for the Moorland Park
playground. Ald. Schaumberg seconded. Mr. Hyde would like to check out the cost of rubber around the
playground instead of the concrete. Mrs. Dunn will look into it. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Community Garden at Moorland Park
Mrs. Dunn reported the garden area had been staked out and Parks Supervisor Peter Theis has sent out soil
samples and those results should be back by June 1. Once they decide to move forward, DPW will turn the
soil and add manure like they did at the Old Settlement Centre. Mr. Hulbert questioned who is actually going
to be doing this? Some contact needs to be made with the residents to find out the interest level before more
time is spent. The department will turn the soil and will get the ground ready but the people will have to do the
rest. Mr. Hulbert reported on the garden at the Old Settlement Centre. The area for the community garden is
about 200 feet x 150 feet. Staff is to notify Alderman Harenda to see if there is interest in continuing with the
project. If there is interest, the people will have to come to the next meeting. Mr. Hulbert moved if there is
interest, to leave it up to the staff to move forward with the plan as presented. Mr. Boisits seconded.
Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS
Plan Commission Representative
Mr. Hyde moved to nominate Mr. Hulbert as Plan Commission Representative. Mr. Boisits seconded. Mr.
Hulbert accepted the nomination. No other nominations. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
President
Mr. Hetzel moved to nominate Mr. Whipple as President. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Mr. Whipple accepted the
nomination. No other nominations. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Vice-President
Mr. Hulbert moved to nominate Mr. Boisits as Vice-President. Ald. Schaumberg seconded. Mr. Boisits
accepted the nomination. No other nominations. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Secretary
Mr. Hulbert moved to nominate Mrs. Koble as Secretary. Mr. Hetzel seconded. Mrs. Koble was not present to
accept the nomination but had indicated verbal approval with Director Anderson. No other nominations. Upon
a voice vote, the motion carried.
COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW:
ADJOURNMENT - There being no further business, Mr. Hulbert moved for adjournment at 7:08 p.m.
Seconded by Mr. Hyde. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Stella Dunahee, CPS
Recording Secretary
pc: Board Members, Craig Anderson
email: Mayor, Alderpersons, Department Heads, Peter Theis, Tammy Dunn,