Park & Rec Board- MINUTES - 5/13/2002
MINUTES
PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING
CITY OF MUSKEGO
May 13, 2002
Approved 6/10/02
Board President Toby Whipple called the monthly meeting of the Parks and Recreation Board, City of
Muskego, to order at 6:31 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Those present recited the Pledge of Allegiance
The meeting notice was posted in accordance with the Open Meeting Law on Thursday, May 9, 2002.
Present: Mr. Jerald Hulbert, Ms. Debbie Carlson, Ms. Kelly Koble, Mr. Richard Manchester, Mr. Howard
Schneider, Mr. Toby Whipple, and Director Craig Anderson.
The seventh district alderman will be serving on this Board. As of this date, the city is seeking candidates for the
vacated position.
GUESTS: Lee Kingsbury, Peter Kallio
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
April 8 Board Meeting
Mr. Richard Manchester moved to approve the minutes of the April 8, 2002 meeting. Mr. Howard Schneider
seconded. There were no corrections, additions, or clarifications. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS
Plan Commission
Mr. Schneider nominated Mr. Jerald Hulbert for Plan Commission representative. Ms. Koble seconded the
nomination. Mr. Hulbert accepted the nomination. As there were no other nominations, nominations were
closed. Motion was made by Mr. Schneider and seconded by Ms. Koble to elect Mr. Hulbert as Plan
Commission representative. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
President
Mr. Manchester nominated Mr. Toby Whipple for President. Ms. Carlson seconded the nomination. Mr. Whipple
accepted the nomination. As there were no other nominations, nominations were closed. Motion was made by Mr.
Manchester and seconded by Ms. Carlson to elect Mr. Whipple to serve as President. Upon a voice vote, the
motion carried.
Minutes, Parks & Recreation Board Meeting, May 13, 2002, page 2
Vice-President
Mr. Richard Manchester nominated Mr. Howard Schneider for Vice-President. Mr. Jerald Hulbert seconded the
nomination. Mr. Schneider accepted the nomination. As there were no other nominations, nominations were closed.
Motion was made by Mr. Manchester and seconded by Mr. Hulbert to elect Mr. Schneider to serve as Vice-
President. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Secretary
Ms. Koble nominated Ms. Debbie Carlson for Secretary. Mr. Hulbert seconded the nominations. Ms. Carlson
accepted the nomination. As there were no other nominations, nominations were closed. Motion was made by Ms.
Koble and seconded by Mr. Hulbert to elect Ms. Carlson to serve as Secretary. Upon a voice vote, the
motion carried.
PERSONAL APPEARANCES:
Soccer Field Request/FC Milwaukee Nationals Soccer Club
Mr. Peter Kallio, representing the Muskego region of FC Milwaukee Nationals Soccer Club, presented his
request for a home soccer field for the Muskego teams. They would like to schedule four games per team in
the fall and four games per team in the spring at a field in Muskego. The teams are comprised of Muskego
youths. He informed the Board members that right now they have their practices at the Mill Valley Elementary
School as permission was granted by Mr. Rosploch of the school district for that use. Some discussion by the
Board members on the agreement with the school district for field usage from April 15-September 15. MR.
Kallio said have been providing volunteer hours for the Muskego Kickers and they are willing to cooperate in
whatever way to have this work out. Mr. Hulbert asked how they fit into the scheme of things as a traveling
team? Director Anderson responded that they fall under Priority IV—non-Muskego based traveling league.
Mr. Hulbert inquired what percentage of the youths were from Muskego. Mr. Kallio stated 100 percent right
now. Mr. Hulbert inquired what type of fees would they incur if the Board could find a field for them? Director
Anderson stated the fee would be $10 per home game. The department does not do maintenance on soccer
fields and they would have to stripe the field. The Board members discussed that with the Muskego High
School wanting to use the fields for their teams during the renovation of their facility, it would be difficult to find
a field for this soccer club at this time. Board President Whipple reported that right now they have 92 games
going on at the soccer fields—Kurth Park, Manchester Hill Park and Denoon Park. The additional fields at
Kurth Park and Denoon Park may not be available in the fall as the department is looking at rotating play on
the fields. Director Anderson indicated that a lot depends on the grass growth in these parks. . Ms. Koble
questioned if they could use Bluhm Farm Park? President Whipple stated that, by agreement, the field is used
by the Muskego Athletic Association for their flag football in the fall. Director Anderson indicated that in the
spring, there is rugby on that field and the field is not conducive to soccer play. Mr. Kallio said there should be
some field that the youths could play on in Muskego. Ms. Carlson moved that the issue be deferred until
the Board finds out how the grass comes, not to say no, but to defer it until the Board sees how the
grass comes in and get more of the schedules hammered out between the Kickers and the high school
soccer and when that is laid out, then the Board could see if the Board could possibly, maybe for a
trial, try four home games. If there are fields available, look at four home games which would probably
Minutes, Parks & Recreation Board Meeting, May 13, 2002, page 3
be one per team in the fall to see how it goes and wait and see, deferring until the Board knows better.
Mr. Hulbert seconded. Director Anderson thought they should get the high school schedule done by June.
Mr. Manchester mentioned that a lot of groups are coming and requesting fields and the Board does not have
the facilities for every group to use. Ms. Koble expressed her concern about the new grass that is at Denoon
Park and to try to keep everybody off until it is established. This is the second year that the Board has tried to
get a good grass growth at Denoon Park. President Whipple commented that there are not enough fields for
the season. Alderman Petfalski questioned if there was a field that they could develop as this group has
offered to help get it ready? Some discussion by Board members on the development of soccer fields at Park
Arthur not occurring for a couple of years. Mr. Hulbert mentioned that another area may be the Muskego High
School athletic practice field, but that, again, would be about the same time as Park Arthur fields. Ms. Carlson
called for the question. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried. The issue would be deferred for at least a
month.
Denoon Park Ball Field
Mr. Lee Kingsbury presented the request from the Cousin’s Rebels baseball team that the Board reconsider
plans to cancel improving the ball field infield at Denoon Park. He mentioned that the infield is sandy and
additional dirt should be added. His concern was a safety factor as well as the baseball being slowed
excessively on ground balls. Their team is a 100 percent, Muskego-based team. Director Anderson stated
that the Department of Public Works added sand to the infield mix. Too much sand was added and the infield
mix on top has washed away. Mr. Kingsbury indicated the team is willing to help out to get the infield done.
He also offered used of equipment to work the soil in. They are also thinking about using a different field. Mr.
Hulbert questioned how many times the field was worked this season? Director Anderson stated about five
times. He asked if the Board paid for the dirt, could they work it in? Director Anderson said the infield mix,
adding about 2-1/2 inches to 3 inches to the sand, would cost $5,760. This would go over the top of the sand.
The pegs would have to be removed and replaced after the dirt was mixed in. Ms. Carlson moved that the
Board take money out of park dedication for the dirt fill if the team agrees to work it in, the amount not
to exceed $6,000. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Director Anderson mention the infield mix would amount to 240
cubic yards. Ms. Carlson called for the question. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried. Mr. Kingsbury
brought up the subject of Mr. Lazarides checking out their playing field today. He had asked if they could get
the fields in playable condition so they could play since they have paid for this service for their games. Mr.
Manchester called for point of order. Mr. Hulbert questioned who would be delivering the infield mix?
Director Anderson said Alby’s. He also directed Mr. Kingsbury to contact him regarding delivery and the
working of the infield mix into the infield.
WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE
Police Department Incident Reports
Director Anderson informed the Board members that the launch boxes at Denoon Park and Big Muskego
Lake/Durham were broken into. They are looking at using vendor machine locks that are burglary proof.
These locks are about $30-$40 each.
There was another bike ramp put up on the recreation trail. The staff took down the ramp and the jumps. The
materials are at the parks garage. A no trespassing sign was erected from the recreation trail in.
Minutes, Parks & Recreation Board Meeting, May 13, 2002, page 4
American Transmission Company—Muskego Recreation Trail
The American Transmission Company are trimming and brushing back the recreation trail between North
Cape Road and Racine Avenue. This is at no cost to the department as it is part of the electric company’s
maintenance program. Director Anderson reported that they did a very good job, including cutting back the
growth farther and getting also some of the invasive weeds. Mr. Hulbert questioned if the staff was ever able
to renovate or to drag the trails? Director Anderson said the trails are dragged every spring. He further
mentioned that the problem occurring on the trails is the people that are developing are using the trails for
deliveries and there is a lot of trail damage from the tires; this was noticed especially in the North Cape area.
In consultation with Sean McMullen, the developer is responsible for this expense or the people making
improvements to their house.
OLD BUSINESS
Lee Hubka Basketball Court Re-paving
Director Anderson presented an estimate from Payne and Dolan for the repaving of the basketball court at Lee
Hubka Park. Payne & Dolan’s estimate was $19,895 for the project. At last month’s meeting, the Board had
an estimate from Frank Armstrong in the amount of $25, 590 for the project. Ms. Koble questioned what
quality of work is done by Payne & Dolan? Mr. Hulbert thought that Payne & Dolan would sub-contract the
work. He asked what type of basketball standards would be in place? Director Anderson said they are going
to use the same ones. He also pointed out that Payne and Dolan would be pulverize and shape the existing
asphalt whereas Frank Armstrong had indicated they would be installing drain tile. Mr. Hulbert moved to
approve Payne and Dolan’s proposal. Mr. Schneider seconded. Board members discussed the
pulverizing of the asphalt. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
ALDERMAN'S REPORT
None.
DEPARTMENT REPORTS
Recreation
Director Anderson reported that the staff is using the new recreation software and at times, it is very
challenging. In the long run, it is going to be user friendly.
Parks
Director Anderson said that someone had requested a portable toilet all year round at Idle Isle Park. The
person indicated that people relieve themselves on the ground or in the water. There is snowmobiling and ice
fishing in the winter and they would like a unit there year round. Director Anderson mentioned that the
department does have portable toilets at Big Muskego Lake boat launch at Durham year round and will have
one at the Boxhorn launch. He was in favor of placing one at Idle Isle Park.
Director updated the Board members that a parking area for playground participants will be available at
Veterans’ Memorial Park. They are going to place a culvert in the ditch area near the park, fill in the ditch
Minutes, Parks & Recreation Board Meeting, May 13, 2002, page 5
area. This will cost a little over $9,000. The Department of Public Works is absorbing most of the cost of the
project except for the special stone that needs to be used for the parking. $3,724 will be taken from the parks
dedication account. This issue will be going before Finance Committee for approval.
NEW BUSINESS
Mill Valley Fence
Director Anderson informed the Board members that a neighbor at Mill Valley had requested the department to
put up an extension of the 10’ fence so there are no longer foul balls in her yard from the ball field. This would
be on the lot line from the school to the property. The department has installed fences at Manchester Hill Park
to stop the soccer balls from going into the neighbors’ yards. In reviewing the quote from Century Fence in the
amount of $3,651, it was for a 6’ high fence, not the 10’ high fence. This issue will be brought back next month
when they have more information regarding the height of the fence. Ms. Koble moved to defer action until
next month. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Bluhm Farm Park Shelter Fountain
With the Bluhm Farm Park fountain getting vandalized, it is getting harder to get parts. Director Anderson
presented the Board with an estimate in the amount of $1,760.00 to replace the existing drinking fountain. The
Board acknowledged that a fountain is needed at the park. Ms. Carlson moved to replace the drinking
fountain for $1,760. Mr. Jerald Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Horn and Bluhm Bathroom Remodeling
Board members were in receipt of a quote from A.S.K. Plumbing, Inc. for remodeling the bathrooms at Horn
Park ($5,900) and Bluhm Farm Park ($3,890) to bring them into compliance with the American Disabilities Act
(A.D.A.). Director Anderson advised the Board members that on the Bluhm proposal, the partitions were not
included. He had contacted the plumber on this issue and the plumber indicated a new not to exceed $5,000
for Bluhm. Mr. Hulbert moved to include the partitions for a combination project not to exceed $11,000.
Ms. Koble seconded. Director Anderson reported that the bathrooms are open and the department needs to
make sure that the cleaning crew locks them. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
OTHER BUSINESS
Subdivision Plans from Plan Commission
Rosewood Estates Addition No. 1 Subdivision Final Plat
This subdivision is located on the extension of Westcot Drive. It includes lands identified in the conservation
plan as being medium management priority. Mr. Hulbert moved to accept park dedication fees in lieu of
land dedication. Mr. Manchester seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Candlewood Creek Subdivision Final Plat
This subdivision is located on the southwest corner of Woods Road and Moorland Road. It includes lands in
the conservation plan as being high acquisition priority (Outlot 5 and Outlot 6) and additional lands (Outlot 3)
Minutes, Parks & Recreation Board Meeting, May 13, 2002, page 6
which are identified as a low management priority. Mr. Jerald Hulbert moved to accept park dedication
fees in lieu of land dedication. Mr. Manchester seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Quietwood East Subdivision Preliminary Plat
Located on Woods Road, this development includes lands identified in the conservation plan as being high
acquisition priority. Mr. Hulbert moved to accept park dedication fees in lieu of land dedication. Mr.
Manchester seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Prairie Meadows Estates Preliminary Plat
This development is in the area of North Cape Road and Ryan Road. As this subdivision is close to Franklin,
Mr. Hulbert inquired what Franklin’s plan was regarding trails and possible connection with the Muskego
trails? Director Anderson was informed by Franklin that the development of the Franklin trails is dependent on
the availability of CDBG funds. Mr. Hulbert moved to accept park dedication fees in lieu of land
dedication. Ms. Koble seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Next Meeting –June 10, 2002
COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW
Board members discussed the status of the park dedication fees. Director Anderson indicated that BrianTurk
indicated they should consider increasing their fees to reflect the actual cost of providing services for the
developments. Director Anderson will check on this. Mr. Manchester expressed that the fees should be
increased as a lot of subdivisions are going in and the people are expecting improvements. The money has to
come from some place for these improvements.
Mr. Hulbert inquired what the status was of the Manchester Hill Park shelter? Director Anderson said that
because of weather, the contractor has not been able to get to it. Some discussion by Board members on the
insurance for the materials.
Mr. Hulbert questioned about the bids on the Veterans’ Memorial Park shelter and the boardwalk? Director
Anderson stated that a bid had been received for the shelter and awarded at Finance Committee and should
go before Council on Tuesday, but nothing on the boardwalk.
Mr. Hulbert queried if there was a target date for moving the old town hall? Director Anderson had heard that
they were planning for the end of May or early June. They are waiting for the Mayor to sign off on the contract.
Mr. Hulbert asked about the properties the city has acquired along Pioneer Drive? Director Anderson said the
only property concerning the Board would be the area by the parks garage. It might be needed for a future
expansion.
Mr. Hulbert expressed his desire to see the recreation trail connected all the way to Racine County and
Franklin is part of that. Therefore, there would need to be some discussion on bridging the creek in Racine
County and crossing at Muskego Dam Road. He asked if the engineer had that in his plans? Director
Anderson said it depends on his schedule. He said the bridge crossing is slated on the parks dedication
Minutes, Parks & Recreation Board Meeting, May 13, 2002, page 7
projects for this year. He suggested that if Board members get the opportunity, to check out the stream
crossing in Mukwonago on old Highway 83, which is a pedestrian bridge.
He asked Ms. Koble if she had a chance to get a cost on the complex at Salem? She hadn’t, but will make a
note to look into it further. It’s at the intersection of Highway 50 and 75. It is very pleasing aesthetically.
Board President asked if Mr. Hulbert knew what happened to the approval of the lights for the athletic fields at
Muskego High School? Mr. Hulbert did not; he believed it was deferred because they were waiting for dates
or events that will be taking place at the field.
Mr. Schneider inquired if there was anything on the Martin property? Director Anderson said they met in
closed session and he had no update on what occurred.
Ms. Koble asked if there had been any complaints on horses using the trail on Loomis? Director Anderson
had not received any. Board President Whipple hadn’t notice any horses on the trail the times he was in the
area. Mr. Hulbert said he had talked to someone and they indicated they hadn’t had any complaints and
hadn’t had the horse dropping issue.
ADJOURNMENT - There being no further business, Mr. Hulbert moved for adjournment at 8:20 p.m.
Seconded by Mr. Manchester. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried .
Stella Dunahee, CPS
Recording Secretary
pc: Board Members, Craig Anderson
email: Mayor, Alderpersons, Department Heads, Peter Theis, Irene Schuder, Tammy Dunn,