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pscm20120801 (2)CITY OF MUSKEGO Public Safety Committee Minutes Approved LOCATION: Muskego City Hall W182 S8200 Racine Avenue CALL TO ORDER DATE: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 TIME: 6:OOPM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE (1,11 OE VI-a-MUSKEGO The meeting was called to order at 6:01 PM, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance. ROLL CALL Present were Aldermen Kert Harenda and Neome Schaumberg, Citizen Representatives James Mayer and Philip Kiedrowski. Also present were T.C.F.D. Chief Carl Wojnowski, T.C.F.D. Representatives Jeff Verburgt and Phil Dibb. Alderman Neil Borgman was also in attendance. Alderman Robert Glazier and Chief Geiszler were excused. STATEMENT OF PUBLIC NOTICE The meeting was properly posted publicly for viewing on Friday, July 27, 2012. Public Appearance APPROVAL OF MINUTES Alderman Schaumberg made a motion to approve the July 12, 2012 minutes with the addition of the following two sentences under New Business #1. "The new vehicle will replace a 1996 pumper previously owned by the Muskego Fire Company. Tess Corners' justification for the dual purpose truck is that they did not have sufficient personnel at station #2 to staff both a pumper and a tanker." Alderman Glazier's name was omitted from the attendance portion of the minutes and was corrected. Jim Mayer seconded and the motion carried unanimously. Updates from Police Department None. Updates from Fire Department Chief Wojnowski advised that the department recently served lunch to over 700 people for a Wisconsin Firefighter's Memorial Motorcycle Ride. OLD BUSINESS Fire Codes — Phil Dibb appeared on behalf of the Tess Corners Fire Department. Dibb had recently discussed the fire codes with Jeff Muenkel and presented the proposed changes. After considerable discussion on how these changes would impact the city, the following changes were recommended to be forwarded to council: Section 32.15D.2.i) — This modification is to alter and clarify the turning radius required in site design to accommodate proper fire equipment. A diagram is being added to the code to further assist in site planning. i)Turning Radius. Curves and turn-arounds, solely leading to or within a fire street, shall be designed for a forty-one eight (41 48) foot long fire truck with an inside turning radius of 28.5 feet and outside turning radius of 49.5 feet with a two -foot unobstructed overhang (see diagram herein for example). A minimum 24-foot roadway of asphalt or concrete is needed around a turn to accommodate this ordinance. 49.5' 49.5' Outside Radius 28' Inside Radius 21' Corner turning radius based upon 41-foot long fire truck with a 28.5-foot inside turning radius and a 49.5-foot outside turning radius. This equates to needing a minimum of 21 feet of pavement/concrete around a turn. A multiple turn may require greater pavement needs to accommodate a proper turning radius. However, all other Muskego access ordinances apply (Ex. Min. 24-foot access way for fire lane per Muskego ordinances applies). 2 Section 32.13B. — This modification is to change the square footage limits as to when sprinkler systems are required for certain uses. **Remove Table** and alter the text as follows: 3. Basements. All basements: required throughout. 5. Buildings used for the manufacture, storage or sale of combustible goods or merchandise. a) All buildings over 6,000 square feet: required throughout. b) Buildings two stories in height or higher: required throughout. 6. Office buildings, motels and hotels. a) All buildings over 6,000 square feet: required throughout. b) Buildings two stories or higher: throughout. 7. Day-care centers serving nine or more children. All new construction and existing buildings being converted to day-care centers, regardless of gross square footage, shall be completely sprinklered in accordance with NFPA 13 or other applicable NFPA Code. 8. Places of assembly over 3500 sq ft require sprinkling throughout. Section 32.13 — Multifamily dwellings are considered as follows. c) Multifamily dwelling. 1. Multifamily dwellings (four units or more). Included are townhouses, apartments, row houses and condominiums as examples. The rest of the language in item c will be deleted. Section 32.15(C)c)3.5) — This modification is to clarify the building size in which automatic fire detection devices are required. 5) Appliances that automatically detect fire and/or products of combustion are not required in buildings less than 25,000 sq ft. that have complete automatic fire sprinkler systems installed in accordance with NFPA 13, unless required by the AHJ. Note: State Codes may be more restrictive. Section 32.15H.a) — This modification is to clarify the building size in which Fire Department Standpipes are required. a)WHERE REQUIRED. Fire Department Standpipes shall be provided in all new structures over two stories in height or 25,000 sq feet single story in accordance with this section. All stairwells in buildings over one story will require standpipes. Section 32.13(C)g. — This is clarification as to the type of Knox lock cover that is required for the Fire Department Connection point on larger commercial structures. g. The FDC must include a 5" Storz Connection on a 30 degree fitting with a Knox locking cover. The committee was shown a short video by Jim Mayer reference the use of sprinklers. Alderman Harenda questioned the committee on whether the changes to the fire codes would impact the city in a negative way. The committee agreed that the changes were reasonable and the codes have not been changed since 1977. Jim Mayer made a motion to forward the changes to the council. Phil Kiedrowski seconded and the motion carried with Alderman Schaumberg opposing. NEW BUSINESS Tess Corners Fire Department 2013 Operational Budget — The 2013 Operational Budget was presented to the committee by Jeff Verburgt. Alderman Harenda had some questions reference what was included in the building maintenance portion of the budget. Alderman Harenda questioned why, if the city owned two of the buildings did the fire department need to prepare for maintenance of those buildings. Jeff Verburgt and Chief Wojnowski both explained that in the rental agreement with the city, the fire department is responsible for maintenance. There was a printing error with the budget so the hard copies were not presented to the committee. Jeff Verburgt agreed to re -send the email to the committee and shared what was printed from his paperwork. Alderman Harenda asked, if at the common council meeting the fire department would be prepared to answer questions or be willing to discuss sharing burdens (Building Maintenance and Computer Maintenance) with the city for cost saving benefits. Alderman Harenda advised that he was not sure this effort would work, however, he asked that it be discussed. Jeff Verburgt agreed and would bring any items that may be questioned to the council meeting. Jim Mayer made a motion to send the 2013 Operational Budget to council as presented. Alderman Schaumberg seconded and the motion carried unanimously. 2. Fireworks Permits/Requirements — The fact that the City of Muskego allows residents to obtain permits and light off fireworks is rare when compared to any other jurisdiction around us. Tom Templin, a resident from Hillendale Drive, appeared in front of the committee to ask them to reconsider giving out fireworks permits. He advised that based on what he has seen and the way the city is growing, he fears that there will be a disaster. The committee believed that based on the growth of the city and the concerns presented, the matter should be discussed further at the next meeting. Jim Mayer advised that there are NFP Standards that should be checked into and verified. Alderman Harenda asked Chief Wojnowski if he would check into fire suppression mechanisms that could possibly be added to the ordinance, and what would be considered "sufficient firefighting equipment". Chief Wojnowski agreed and the item will be brought back to the committee next month. 4 COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW 1. Next Meeting — September 5, 2012 at 6:OOPM. 2. Miscellaneous Business — None. ADJOURNMENT Alderman Schaumberg made a motion to adjourn and Jim Mayer seconded. Motion carried unanimously and the meeting was adjourned at 7:55PM. 5