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COMMON COUNCIL – CITY OF MUSKEGO
MINUTES OF JOINT MEETING WITH MUSKEGO-NORWAY SCHOOL BOARD
AUGUST 19, 2002 Approved
The meeting was jointly called to order by School Board President Schrank and Mayor
Slocomb at 7:38 PM. Also present were School Board Members Waltz, Oman, Kinnick,
Anderson, Schaefer and Damaske, Dr. Drury, Gary Rosploch and Scott Kugi. City
Aldermen Madden, Sanders, Petfalski, Damaske, Le Doux and Patterson, Parks &
Recreation Director Anderson and Clerk-Treasurer Marenda were also present.
Those present recited the Pledge of Allegiance. The Clerk-Treasurer stated the
meeting was noticed in accordance with the Open Meeting Law.
Mr. Rosploch made a presentation using the original site plan of the high school site
showing the athletic fields. The area involved is about 40 acres, but a large area has
been determined to be wetlands by the DNR. The proposal includes a soccer
field/stadium complex; JV field and practice fields; parking lot for about 206 cars;
existing football practice field and additional football practice field; two baseball diamond
complex and two softball diamonds; press box/concessions; and, restroom facilities.
Mr. Anderson noted the City is planning to purchase the Engel-Ewald property to the
south for conservation purposes for open space. Wetland mitigation will start to reclaim
the area. Once completed the wetlands on the school site would be replaced by the
wetlands on the Engel-Ewald property being purchased, and would allow for the
construction of the fields.
Mr. Rosploch provided the estimated costs of just under $3 million for the development
of the fields as submitted by Rettler Corporation, copy attached. Mr. Anderson said
some kind of paved system is needed to get from the parking lot to the various fields.
Mr. Rosploch said it was included at an estimated cost of $41,800.
Ald. Patterson asked for the status of the gridiron club’s locker room on the football site.
Mr. Schrank said the club has not been able to raise funds for such a facility at this time.
In response to Mayor Slocomb’s inquiry about parking spaces, Mr. Rosploch stated
there will be about 1,200 stalls on the entire 96 acre site. Ald. Sanders asked what is
the proposed phasing-in plan, and Mr. Rosploch indicated that is part of discussion
tonight.
Mr. Anderson stated it is difficult to compare the proposed costs with the City’s projects
because the City fields are constructed without the underdrain and irrigation systems.
Mr. Schrank stated he understood that the City may have some interest in sharing some
of the cost for the soccer and football fields. Mr. Anderson said he was more interested
in the practice fields. For the age group the City serves, underdrains and irrigation are
probably not needed.
Mr. Anderson stated the Lake Denoon soccer fields are being improved and ready for
play next spring. There are two other soccer fields at Kurth. Some areas are slated for
Park Arthur in the future. Both MAA and the Kickers continue to grow. Mr. Anderson
also reviewed baseball and softball use of the fields.
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Mr. Kinnick remarked so much more use of the fields can be had with drainage and
irrigation. It’s better to install before development rather than tear up later.
Mr. Anderson stated he reviewed with Toby and the City’s field use was thought to be:
premiere field – 20%; JV field – 30%; and practice field 40-50%. Mr. Kugi stated the
school’s use would be using all three of the fields from August-November after school to
5:15 p.m., and girls March-June. City access would be after 6:00 or 6:30 p.m. Mr.
Kinnick noted high school games are during the week and the Kickers are on the
weekends.
City Plan Commission and Parks Board member Gerald Hulbert commented timing is
good to be a participant in this to get places for kids to play sooner rather than wait for
the Park Arthur fields. Mr. Anderson said it makes sense to try to get everything in as
soon as possible. The high school wants to go to spring baseball as soon as fields are
available. Horn Field takes such a beating now with a lot of money going into it to
maintain its integrity.
It was noted that the Chargers use Bay Lane for practice and the high school field for
games.
Mr. Oman said he personally was not interested in parting with contingency funds at this
time with the high school referendum project still in process. He expressed concern
about lighting and cost for maintenance.
Mr. Schrank asked how the City will make a decision. Mayor Slocomb stated tonight we
asked about our percentage of use and hours. For example he looked at City
contribution to be about 20% of the cost of the premier soccer field. We also have to
look at timing. We need more information and discussion at Committee of the Whole
and where we would come up with funds. Mr. Schrank said the School Board is not in a
position at this time to make a commitment. This matter has been placed on the
September agenda as a discussion item. There is some interest on the Board. The
School Board will be most interested in how much the City is willing to participate in the
cost of the project. The timing is now with the referendum project under construction.
Ald. Patterson asked if the School would be willing to give the City credit for the cost of
the land being purchased for the wetland mitigation. Mr. Schrank responded by asking
if the City was willing to share in the cost of the purchase of the land from St. Paul’s.
Mr. Schrank indicated there are no budget monies to pay for these improvements.
There is an allocation in the referendum for tennis courts and soccer fields and a
contingency built in, and any available funds won’t be known until the project is done.
There is also an undesignated reserve.
Mr. Anderson and Mr. Rosploch were requested to obtain additional quotes from other
vendors.
Mr. Schrank would like the City to inform the School Board on what they are willing to
do. He commented again the Board will discuss this matter at their first meeting in
September.
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Mr. Anderson stated the people that are going to use it are the people that will benefit,
and that is the community.
Ald. Patterson advised the City has always been very frugal and know there will be
people concerned about $60,000 for scoreboards and $400,000 for irrigation and
underdrains. Kids have lived for years without that class and expense and felt these
things are bordering on semi-pro and professional fields. He had some major concerns
about dollars he didn’t feel he could support.
The meeting adjourned at 8:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Jean K. Marenda, CMC
Clerk-Treasurer