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MINUTES
PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING
CITY OF MUSKEGO
July 9, 2001
Approved, as amended, 8/13/01
Board President Toby Whipple called the monthly meeting of the Parks and Recreation Board, City of
Muskego, to order at 6:30 p.m.
The meeting notice was posted in accordance with the Open Meeting Law on July 5, 2001.
Present: Mr. Jerald Hulbert, Ms. Kelly Koble (arrived 6:32 p.m.), Mr. Howard Schneider, Mr. Toby Whipple, Ald.
Wichgers (departed at 8:00 p.m.) and Mr. Craig Anderson (Director of Parks & Recreation).
Absent: Ms. Debbie Carlson (excused), Mr. Richard Manchester (excused)
GUESTS: 13
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
June 11 Board Meeting
Mr. Jerald Hulbert moved to approve the minutes of the June 11 Board Meeting, as mailed. Ald. Wichgers
seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
PERSONAL APPEARANCES:
Ramp Usage
Mr. Schneider brought to the Board members' attention that the Waterbugs' (Waterbugs Ski Team, Inc.) ski
ramp was being used during non-authorized times. The contract specifies certain days and times when the
ramp is to be used by the Waterbugs. Mr. Dave Birkle, Vice-president of the Waterbugs, stated they do not
use the ramp at other times than specified in the contract. He thought that it was somebody else using the
ramp as there are other people who want to tune their skills for competitions. They do have a sign on the jump
indicating that it belongs to the Waterbugs. Director Anderson informed the Board members that the police
department stated it was difficult to tell someone that they cannot use the ramp as it was on the public water.
The Board can only say where the ramp is placed. Mr. Hulbert inquired if they can turn the ramp so it cannot
be used during unauthorized times? He felt that this would be a simple solution. Mr. Birkle felt that there
would be a liability problem if the ramp would become insecure should someone decide to turn it back to make
it usable. Mr. Hulbert indicated that something should be done because the contract does not allow for use
other than by the Waterbugs. Director Anderson had received four calls on the issue and Water Patrolman
Mrotek had received two calls. Mr. Birkle questioned for what reason the ramp should be shut down?
Director Anderson responded that it was being used not in accordance with the contract. Board members
discussed safety issues regarding the ramp being used by others on the lake. Mr. Howard Schneider moved
to ask the Waterbugs to turn the ramp 90 degrees so that it could not be used at unauthorized times.
Mr. Hulbert seconded. Mr. Birkle felt this would take away the opportunity for other individuals to use the
jump. They use it for practice for competitions and many represent Muskego in these competitions. Mr.
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Schneider said these individuals are lax in giving consideration to others that are using the lake such as
getting too close to a fishing boat. President Whipple inquired if the Board had any authority to have the ramp
fenced off? Director Anderson could not say, he only knew that the Board could only direct its placement as it
is in the public water. Mr. Birkle informed the Board members that their liability covers not only the Waterbugs'
usage of the ramp, but others that use it. The people around the lake understand that it should be used only
during the contract times. Mike Larsen informed the Board members that anything that is not attached to the
shore or a pier cannot be restricted and can be used by any body using the lake. Mike Fitzgerald
demonstrated how the Waterbugs could turn the ramp to change the skier jumping so they would not come too
close to shore. Mr. Aird suggested placement of buoys marking off the area the skier's use. It was mentioned
by others in attendance the importance of having the ski jump for them to use for practice. They would like to
keep the jump where it is and work within some guidelines. Mr. Schneider further mentioned the skiers going
in essence of 50-60 miles per hour off the jump. Mr. Buechers indicated that there is a contract with the city
that is not being followed as skiers are going in front of his property, 8:30 a.m.-8:30 p.m., 7 days a week. Ms.
Koble commented that the Waterbugs is a well-organized group of individuals and it seems some person is
misusing the ramp. She felt there could be some middle ground solution to the issue. Mr. Schneider indicated
that the contract is not real good as it does not address the fact that anyone can use the ramp. Alderman
Wichgers stated taking the ramp away is not going to stop people. Skiers will be there whether there is a ramp
or not. The people using it at other times are not the Waterbugs but others training for competition. Mr.
Hulbert again mentioned the contract the Board has with the Waterbugs and the ramp was only to be used by
the Waterbugs. This is the first time he was aware that others were using the ramp. Next year, the ramp
should not be in the contract. It was also discussed by those in attendance that the water patrolman should
issue citations to those infringing on the rules and regulations that already govern the lake. Mr. Hulbert
moved to call the question. Mr. Schneider seconded. Alderman Wichgers objected. The question was
called with Alderman Wichgers opposed. Upon a voice vote, the motion failed, with Mr. Schneider and
Mr. Hulbert voting yea, and Ms. Koble, Ald. Wichgers, and President Whipple voting nay.
Use of Idle Isle Request
Mr. Joe Fix was present to request use of Idle Isle Park on Saturday, September 22, for his wedding reception.
He was requesting approval to have a tent erected and to have acoustical music played. The exact size of
the tent was not known at this time—he will find out and notify Director Anderson of the dimensions, possibly
20' x 30' and it would be set up on Saturday morning by the rental firm and taken down the following Sunday.
Further, he would like to request use of the bathrooms within the facility. Director Anderson had reservations
on this due to once access is gained to the interior of the building, there is no other security for the contents
within the building. The Waterbugs and the Parks and Recreation Department have items within the building.
Director Anderson further informed Mr. Fix that the department has no parks staff after Labor Day. Mr. Fix
offered to clean the bathrooms and the park after their event. Mr. Fix was advised that parking is on a first-
come, first-serve basis. Mr. Fix responded that if parking were not available for the guests at the park, then
they would be parking their vehicles at his residence. Mr. Hulbert moved to approve the use of Idle Isle
Park and the tent and the acoustic instruments; and further, the cleaning up of the bathrooms and the
park after the event. Alderman Wichgers seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried
unanimously. Mr. Fix will need to get in touch with Director Anderson regarding the usage of the facility's
bathrooms.
WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE
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Police Department Incident Reports
There was graffiti on the lower parking lot at Denoon Park on June 29. Also, at Schmidt Park, the parks crew
kept putting up the tennis nets only later to find that the contractor was working on the tennis courts and had
taken them down to do their work.
OLD BUSINESS
Park Arthur
Director Anderson reported that Alderman Slocomb had indicated the fill for the park could be coming in July
or August. June was too wet. Once City Engineer Sean McMullen gets the final date, he will moved forward
with the grading plans. Director Anderson has received two calls from residents inquiring on what is
happening at the park.
Manchester Hill Fencing
Director Anderson shared with the Board members that the Manchester Hill fencing has been installed. Since
its installation, the gentleman living next to the Bauers, which is south and behind the pond, reported that a lot
of the people have been going on to his property to retrieve balls, and children, to the extent, walked on his
newly paved driveway leaving footprints. He is now requesting that the fence be extended past his property.
The cost of extending the fence would be $2,000. Mr. Jerald Hulbert moved to recommend the
expenditure of funds to complete the fencing to the south in lieu of plantings. Ms. Kelly Koble
seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously.
ALDERMAN'S REPORT
No report at this time.
DEPARTMENT REPORTS
Fall Program Guide
The staff is starting work on the fall program guide, which is scheduled to be distributed in mid-August. The
program guide will contain three 1/2-pages of advertising. Mr. Hulbert inquired if the delinquent funds had
been received. Director Anderson has received one check and is waiting for the second check from the
previous ad agency. He reported that winter/spring participant numbers were up again as well as the summer
programs showing an increase in participants.
New Registration Software
With the current software becoming antiquated, the staff is researching new registration software. The most
promising is the Class software. With newer software, it will be easier to obtain registration reports, to make
facility reservations for programs, and take program registrations over the Internet. This is part of the five-
year, capital budget plan.
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Horn Field
The ball fields are on a three-year renovation schedule. Horn Field needs to be done again. To look at
redoing everything, would be $131,000. It would be $7,000-$8,000 to do the infield. Director Anderson is
looking at trying to get some cost sharing from the users of this field. Mr. Hulbert questioned the users of the
field? Director Anderson stated that it is heavily used by the high school for freshman, junior varsity and
varsity and then the Impact and the Mavericks. Board members discussed if some of the practicing could be
done at Denoon Park. They felt that the $131,000 could be used for another field. Director Anderson will look
at the facility scheduling and see if the issue of using another field could be addressed next year. The Board
acknowledged that the Denoon Park outfield needs work done on it.
Luther Parker Fencing
Director Anderson shared with the Board members that the Finance Committee approved fencing all around
the cemetery with a 10' wide opening. This should be done this week or the middle of next week.
NEW BUSINESS
Veterans' Memorial Park Playground
Director Anderson reported that the festival committee approved the location of the playground. The Board
members reviewed the plan once again for location and the components of the playground. It was noted that
the fibar would be used under the swings and other components. The colors will be the same as at Kurth
Park. The amount for the playground components is $66, 360. This money will be coming from Park
Dedication funds as the grant does not cover the playground expenditure. Board members questioned if any
other priorities would be affected if funds were spent on this playground? Director Anderson informed the
Board members that as of July 9, the fund balance was $440,765 and other priorities would not be affected.
Alderman Wichgers moved for approval of the park's playground components and to recommend the
expenditure of $66, 360. Mr. Howard Schneider seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried
unanimously.
Janesville Road Paved Recreation Trail
Director Anderson pointed out on the Janesville Road reconstruction plan, the areas of the recreation trail that
would be 8-foot wide and 5-foot wide. Further, the recreation trail would be on both sides of Janesville Road.
This was the recommendation of the Mayor's task force. This will be a part of the capital budget and needs
recommendation from the Board for the paving of the recreation trail. Mr. Jerald Hulbert moved to accept
the plan/layout for the Janesville Road paved recreation trail as recommended by the Mayor's task
force. Alderman Wichgers seconded. Alderman Wichgers shared with the Board members any relocation
of properties the county would like to be the city's responsibility. The physical location of the road has not been
determined. They are trying to avoid relocation and reduce the cost. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried
unanimously.
Water in Parks
Director Anderson reported that they are trying to get drinkable water into Lions and Kurth Parks. For the
water in Kurth Park, the recommendation, from the Utilities Department, is to chlorine it in the spring and the
fall. Then during the season, whenever the parks crew is at the park to turn the faucets on to flush out the
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lines. The water just needs to be used. It would be $3,150 for both parks to have drinking water. These units
would be recessed into the walls. Mr. Schneider moved to recommend the expenditure of $3,150 for both
parks for drinking water facilities. Ms. Koble seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried
unanimously.
Bathrooms in Parks
Director Anderson has been working with Jani-King for the bathrooms at Horn, Lions, Kurth and Bluhm to be
cleaned Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays. He has a quote of $400/month. Because some park bathrooms
are not ADA, they will need to be renovated or remodeled. In checking on portable toilets, he found out that
some do come with washing facilities, but cost more money. He will be presenting his findings to the Finance
Committee.
Financial Aid Policy
Director Anderson explained the current policy the department administers to give financial relief to registrants
requesting it. How the need is measured is not consistent. In view of the influx of people requesting this
assistance, and requesting the assistance for some programs with high program fees, the staff reviewed the
policy. Under the revised policy, participants would be capped at $35 per program per program guide and the
$35 cannot be applied to the same program. The department will use whether or not the person receives free
or reduced lunches in the school district, or any other aid as guidelines. In extenuating circumstances, they
will be interviewed by the director. At this time, the department tries to steer people to the payment plan. Mr.
Hulbert commented that he thought the food program was a very clear way to define who is eligible. Unlike
the food program, Director Anderson stated that the applicant needs to reapply for this aid session by session.
Mr. Hulbert moved to adopt the Financial Aid Policy as presented. Ms. Koble seconded. Upon a voice
vote, the motion carried unanimously.
Bluhm Farm Park Field #4 Fencing
Field #4 is done at Bluhm Park. The fence proposed is similar to the other Bluhm fields. The backstop would
be 24' high, fencing along the sidelines, and player benches. Then along the first base, sideline fencing will be
100' x 25' netting which can be taken down and stored at the parks garage on the off season. This fencing is
due to the close proximity to McShane Drive to capture any stray balls having the potential for damaging cars.
The cost total is $14,895. Mr. Hulbert moved, Ms. Koble seconded, to recommend the expenditure of
$14,895 for the fencing at the Bluhm Farm Park ball field #4. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried
unanimously.
OTHER BUSINESS
Subdivision Plans from Plan Commission
Champions Village, The Reserve
Board members reviewed the plan as submitted from the Plan Commission. Mr. Hulbert moved to accept
park dedication fees in lieu of land dedication. Mr. Howard Schneider seconded. Upon a voice vote,
the motion carried unanimously.
Next Meeting – The August meeting will occur on August 13.
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COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW
Director Anderson informed the Board members that the Monheim property has been purchased. They plan
to raze it and put turf in. The Board will need to decide what they want to do with the larger property once the
Town Hall is moved which should be this year.
Mr. Hulbert asked for clarification of the Board's decision on the equestrian use of the recreation trail. He was
informed that the Board would review equestrian usage of the recreation trail from North Cape Road to
Muskego Dam Road. During this usage time, documentation will be made of any complaints received,
anything the parks crew notices including the removal of dung. This action did not negate the previous
approved request for the use of the trail near Big Bend. It was noted that that portion of trail is not being taken
care of as intended by those requesting it be open for equestrian use. It was speculated that the trail wasn't
being used because they could not get Big Bend to agree and the Town of Vernon is not interested in opening
up trails.
Mr. Hulbert inquired about the Manchester Hill Park facility. Director Anderson had nothing since last meeting.
He needs to get more detailed estimates.
ADJOURNMENT - There being no further business, Mr. Hulbert moved for adjournment at 8:30 p.m.
Seconded by Mr. Howard Schneider. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried .
Respectfully submitted,
Stella Dunahee, CPS
Recording Secretary
pc: Board Members, Craig Anderson; B. Buechers
email: Mayor, Alderpersons, Department Heads, Peter Theis, Irene Schuder, Tammy Dunn,