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MINUTES
PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING
CITY OF MUSKEGO
May 14, 2001
Approved 6/11/01
Vice-president Howard Schneider called the monthly meeting of the Parks and Recreation Board, City of
Muskego, to order at 6:45 p.m.
The meeting notice was posted in accordance with the Open Meeting Law on May 10, 2001.
Present: Mr. Jerald Hulbert, Ms. Kelly Koble, Mr. Howard Schneider, Ald. Wichgers (6:50 p.m.) and Mr. Craig
Anderson (Director of Parks & Recreation).
Absent: Ms. Debbie Carlson (excused), Mr. Richard Manchester (excused), Mr. Toby Whipple (excused)
GUESTS: Betty Czarapata, Richard Barloga, Joe Thibedeau, Members of Muckey 4-H Club, Tom Reck
Note: While awaiting the arrival of Ald. Wichgers, the Board members discussed non-action items.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
April 9 Public Hearing
Mr. Jerald Hulbert moved to approve the minutes of April 9 Public Hearing on Park Arthur, as mailed.
Seconded by Ald. Wichgers. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
April 9 Board Meeting
Mr. Jerald Hulbert moved to approve the minutes of the April 9 Board Meeting, as mailed. Ms. Koble
seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
May 1 Sub-committee Meeting
Mr. Hulbert moved to accept the minutes of the May 1 Sub-committee Meeting. Ald. Wichgers seconded.
Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
PERSONAL APPEARANCES:
4-H Citizenship Project
Members of the Muckey 4-H Club came before the Board. The club does community service projects and as
one of their projects, they would like to help eradicate garlic mustard in the City of Muskego. They were
seeking direction from the Board as to what areas they could do this project work. Betty Czarapata was in
attendance and recommended that they start with Horn Field as there is a lot of garlic mustard in that area.
The club members would like someone to show them how to take care of it. Board members inquired as to
whom would be supervising the youths doing the project. Amanda Radish, a member of the club, said that
they have adults who are willing to supervise the children. Mrs. Czarapata said it is best to collect the garlic
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mustard in the spring because it is more easily recognized as it starts to flower. She had contacted Tom
Zagar about the need to set up a meeting with the youths to show them how to collect the garlic mustard.
Along with the collection of the garlic mustard, Ms. Czarapata recommended that when they notice garlic
mustard in a private yard, that they ask the property owner to please pull the garlic mustard and ask them to
please control it. Also, to place in newspaper boxes a pamphlet on garlic mustard where they notice it growing
in the yard. Director Anderson stated the department staff could work with the club to arrange a date and time
to meet. Director Anderson said that the department would supply the bags for them to put the garlic mustard
in and the parks crew would collect the bags and take them to the landfill for disposal.
Luther Parker Cemetery
Ms. Betty Czarapata and Mr. Richard Barloga voiced their concerns regarding Luther Parker Cemetery. Ms.
Czarapata asked that when anyone works in the cemetery that they understand what their limitations are. She
mentioned the restoration work that had been done on the tombstones. The workmen had left the waste in the
cemetery. She took about 50 pounds of waste cement out of the cemetery. Further, she noted that some of
the tombstones had bulging and clumps of cement. Director Anderson said the contractor did a good job, with
what they had to work with, in getting the tombstones up straight and in the proper place. Ms. Czarapata also
discussed the fence area with the Board mentioning that there is a lot of vegetation in the fence area.
Mentioned also was the unauthorized mowing of the cemetery that occurred last fall. Homeowners in the area
were contacted to see who did the mowing. Since then, the department has erected a sign giving direction on
the historical significance of the cemetery.
Mr. Richard Barloga has been doing the burning of the cemetery for over 20 years. He contacts the district
alderman, the city and the fire department when he does the burns. He explained how the burning helps the
grasses in the cemetery. The next burning will probably be in April of 2002. He explained to the Board
members the value that this cemetery has to the State of Wisconsin; there are only a few places that still have
growing prairie grasses native to the State. He showed the Board pictures of these native grasses and also
pictures of the root systems, which grow very deep. In regard to the fence, Mr. Barloga recommended a
shorter fence be used. Also, assured the Board that when the burning is done, they hose down the fence and
also set a backfire to help prevent the fence from getting burned.
Vice-president Schneider, on behalf of the Board members, thanked Ms. Czarapata and Mr. Barloga for their
efforts in taking care of this cemetery.
Brochure Advertisements
Mr. Edwards and Mr. Papen presented to the Board their proposed agreement for handling the advertisements
for the program guide. Director Anderson gave the Board members an update on the problems being
experienced with the current vendor doing the brochure advertisements. One of the problems was getting the
payment percentage due the department. In their proposed agreement, Mr. Edwards and Mr. Papen will have
the advertisers checks made payable to the Muskego Parks and Recreation Department and turn the checks
over to the department. The department will then issue them a check for their 40% of the proceeds and
furnish them with a 1099 at the end of the year. They will also provide the department with the names and
addresses of the advertisers so Director Anderson can send a thank you to them for their advertisement along
with a copy of the program guide. They would request that the department furnish them with a letter, to
provide to the advertisers when they solicit, stating that they are the acting agents of sale for the department.
Mr. Hulbert asked if the advertisers were aware of the percentages involved? Mr. Papen said he had never
been asked that to date, but he believed he would tell them. Mr. Hulbert explained that one local business had
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questioned what percentage came back to the department. They wanted to know if their advertising dollars
were being well spent. Director Anderson indicated to the Board members that he was comfortable with the
agreement they provided. He liked the idea of the method to handling the money. Mr. Hulbert moved to
recommend going with this group, based on the fact that the checks will be written to the department,
then the department will cut them a check for their 40% and send it to them. Ms. Kelly Koble
seconded. Mr. Papen explained that if an advertiser wanted something different than what they would
provide, they would have them contact Director Anderson and consider it as a donation. Upon a voice vote,
the motion carried. Director Anderson will have Vice-chairperson Schneider sign the agreement and mail it
to them.
Idle Isle Building Improvements
Tom Reck of the Waterbugs Ski Team, Inc. provided the Board members with a sketch of the improvements
they propose to make to the Idle Isle building. The plan would be to pull the dressing stalls out and to take out
the old insulation, and remove one wall. They would put in new insulation. The removal of the wall would
make it easier to access equipment both for their ski club and the lifeguards. As far as they knew, the removal
of the dressing stalls and the wall were not support walls. They are looking to have this work started by
Memorial Day and done by the first of June so that they can have it all summer. Then, in the summer, Mr.
Reck stated they are also looking at providing a better door and do some additional work. Vice-chairperson
Schneider was concerned about the removal of the stalls and the wall. He would like to have the city engineer
look at it to make sure the support will not be taken out should there be some heavy snow and that they would
not damage the integrity of the building. Ms. Koble mentioned the entry and the asphalt lift going toward the
concession stand. Mr. Reck said they are looking at addressing this in the second phase. They would like to
put a curb in so that the water does not get inside the building. Mr. Hulbert moved that they agree to work
with the ski club on the improvements with the contingency that the Engineering Department survey
the building prior to any work being done. Ms. Koble seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE
Police Department Incident Reports
There were no police reports.
OLD BUSINESS
Manchester Hill Park Fencing
The Board members were in receipt of a proposal for the fencing at Manchester Hill Park. It will be a six-foot
high, chain-link fence for two properties and then houses on both sides of those properties will have
intermittent plantings. The property owners were notified and cleaned up the area behind it. One person had
to move a shed. They are looking forward to the new fence. This should be in by the end of June. The fence
will be placed on the lot line and the property has been surveyed. Mr. Hulbert moved to approve the
agreement for the Manchester Hill Park fence. Ald. Wichgers seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion
carried.
Park Arthur Lease
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Mr. Thiesenhusen has been calling the department to see if he can farm the area. Director Anderson has
received no update on the landfill soil. He inquired if the Board wanted to allow Mr. Thiesenhusen to farm the
field? Alderman Wichgers informed the Board members that Tom Zagar said that corn was the worse crop for
the runoff problem that is going into Idle Isle. Mr. Zager said something should be planted other than corn if the
Board was considering leasing the land. Board members discussed the runoff problems in the area. Mr.
Hulbert stated that not knowing the status of the fill, he did not think they should be leasing the property. There
was some discussion for allowing Mr. Thiesenhusen to cut the vegetation growth on the west side and not
charge him. Mr. Hulbert moved that they do not enter into any crop agreement this cropping year with
anyone. Mr. Wichgers seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Park Arthur Issues
Board members were in receipt of a synopsis of the issues brought forth from the public hearing on Park
Arthur. Issues on the east portion of the park were the archery range, electric fence and parking and on the
west portion were landscaping, road traffic and drainage. Director Anderson reported that a traffic study had
been done and completed and there were no changes to the speed limit. The first phase of the park would be
the east portion. The only issue he could see was to try and meet the needs of the property owners. Board
members spent some time discussing the archery range at the park. Ald. Wichgers said the owner of the
horse range would like the archery range omitted from the park. He also asked if the homeowner whose
property is bordered by the park had contacted the city? Director Anderson said that he has not contacted the
Mayor at this time. He thought that the city should take a proactive approach and make an offer to the
gentlemen. There was a lengthily discussion on whether or not the property should be acquired. In the future,
if the property was acquired, Ms. Koble thought that the building on the property might be of use in the park if it
was structurally sound. In regard to the archery range, Mr. Hulbert's opinion was that it be removed from the
eastern portion and moved to the western portion of the park. Another of his concerns was the electric fence
and it is the horse range owner's responsibility to keep the horses on his property. Members discussed the
possibility of sharing the cost of a better fence that would benefit both parties. They recognized that they need
to keep park users away from the electric fence and the horses. In regard to the parking, the people were
concerned about lighting and the activities in the park. Vice-chairperson Schneider said the park could be an
improvement to the drainage problem. Board members, with Moorland Road extension, thought the traffic
impact on Lentini would not be that great. The speed limit is 25 on Lentini and it is an enforcement issue. On
the landscaping, Mr. Hulbert said the homeowners need to be contacted to see if they want a berm.
He recommended this be addressed after taking care of the drainage issue. This will be a continuing agenda
item.
DEPARTMENT REPORTS
Summer Registration
Director Anderson reported that the department began taking non-resident registration today. Registration is
going extremely well. On the first day of counter registration, the department receipted in about $10,000 and
on the first day of credit card registration, there were 40 credit card transactions.
Teen Advisory Board
Director Anderson updated the Board members on the Teen Advisory Board. The Committee of the Whole
wholeheartedly supports the Teen Advisory Board. This Board will be for children ages 12-17 working on teen
issues of concern to this group. There will be adult citizen member and alderman appointed to act in an
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advisory capacity to this Board. They will hold their own meetings and will report to the Mayor and the
Common Council.
Schmidt Park Skateboarding
The Board members were informed that when the parks crew went to Schmidt Park to put up the tennis nets at
Schmidt Park, they found children had put up some pretty elaborate skateboarding equipment. The crew
brought the materials back to the parks garage. This issue needs to be addressed and may be one that the
Teen Advisory Board can work out.
Denoon Park Beavers
A citizen brought to the department's attention that beavers had built a dam in the creek area at Denoon Park
so that the waters went over the boardwalk. This needs to be dismantled.
Conservation Committee
The Conservation Committee has been meeting for a while now and is finalizing the conservation plan to bring
before a public hearing on May 24. This committee would like to come before the Board at the June meeting
to discuss common lands associated with purchasing lands that may match up with the Parks and Open
Space Plan.
NEW BUSINESS
Luther Parker Fencing
Director Anderson shared with the Board members that it would cost around $3,691 to put in the split-rail
fence. He investigated wrought iron and that cost was very high. Mr. Hulbert questioned if they needed the
fence at all? Director Anderson indicated they did if just to keep the people confined. Board members
discussed whether or not they needed to fence the entire area, or just fence the front and set posts at the
property line, or do the corners. There was also discussion on the damage that the fence would incur during
the burning of the cemetery. Mr. Hulbert moved to fence the front and then identify the two back corners
with split-rail fence, not to exceed $6,000. Ms. Koble seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Bluhm Park Ball Field Fencing
Director Anderson shared with the Board members the change in the proposals for the diamonds at Bluhm
Park. On field #1, they will be removing and replacing the complete backstop which will then be 16-foot high,
and removing and replacing line fencing and dugout fencing for $9,500, an increase of $600. On field #2, they
will additionally move the backstop closer to home plate, which is an increase of $2,500 for a total of $11,200.
Director Anderson reported that posts have split on field #3. To replace the posts, remove and replace all the
wire on the backstop, line fence and dugouts and a new set of rails on backstop would be $4,400, an
additional $600 for the posts. The old proposal was $21,605 for all three diamonds; now it is $25,100.
Director Anderson recommended proposing a 50-50 cost-sharing for these improvements. Joe Thibedeau of
the Muskego Athletic Association (M.A.A.) will be taking these proposals back to the M.A.A. Board. In view of
the cost sharing, Mr. Hulbert recommended that there be the understanding that the M.A.A. has first priority for
the fields due to the investment they have made. Other Board members were in agreement. Mr. Hulbert
moved to accept the bids for the fixing the fence based upon a 50-50 cost-sharing agreement with
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M.A.A. and then work out a long-term agreement suitable to the department and the M.A.A. Ald.
Wichgers seconded. Board discussed that the M.A.A. should be given some priority for the investment they
have made. Mr. Thibedeau inquired if the construction of the backstop would the contractor do some grading
so that it is level to the ground. Director Anderson replied that the contractor would probably conform the
backstop so that it is back to the ground. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried. Director Anderson said he
would not be signing the contract until Mr. Thibedeau lets him know the decision of the M.A.A. Board.
Schmidt Park
Director Anderson explained the decision to upgrade the Schmidt Park tennis court instead of the Freedom
Square tennis courts. The detention pond is being enlarged in the area of the Freedom Square tennis courts
and any work on these tennis courts may get damaged. Board members were in receipt of a proposal to
upgrade the Schmidt Park tennis courts in the amount of $8,300 with an option to do yearly crack maintenance
for between $500-$800. This project would be done in the fall of 2001. He mentioned that the crack
maintenance cost would be included in the operating budget in the future. Mr. Hulbert moved to accept the
proposal for upgrading the Schmidt Park tennis courts, not to exceed $10,000, with the optional yearly
crack maintenance. Ald. Wichgers seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
2001 Field Maintenance Fees
Director Anderson reported the department received no objections to the assessed fees for the people
requesting maintenance on the ball diamonds. Mr.Hulbert asked if he anticipated any difficulty in getting staff
to do this work for the current rate of pay? Director Anderson responded that this year there were two
returning seasonals that could start early. The pay rate has also been revised so there is no difficulty in
getting staff. Mr. Hulbert moved to approve the field maintenance fees as submitted for the 2001
season. Ald. Wichgers seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
Manchester Hill Park Pavilion
The sub-committee recommended a 30' x 44' shelter between 1,200 square feet and 1,500 square feet with a
poured concrete floor. Costs were not investigated at this time. Location was to be south of the tree line
between the pond and the soccer field and across from the pond light. They proposed a cutout in the tree line
for access to the soccer field from the shelter. They decided some type of building enclosure along the back
and sidewall was needed to keep the wind out in the wintertime. Other issues they agreed upon were lights on
a timer, electrical outlets, water fountain and an enclosed portable toilet. In checking with the city engineer,
laminated beams were recommended instead of trusses. Vice-chairperson Schneider would like to see a
rough drawing of the shelter.
Veterans' Memorial Park
Director Anderson provided an updated visual aid on the change in the paths and playground location for
Veterans' Memorial Park. The festival committee would like 10' widths for easier access by the trucks. There
was also change in the location for the lights in the park. Board members considered the relocation of the
playground nearer to the pavilion a benefit, also this change made for an open green area in the park.
Director Anderson mentioned that the landscaping would be done in phases. This whole park should be done
by the end of the year (2001). The Mayor would like this park to be "the jewel" for the city and a passive park.
In regard to the playground, this one will be bigger than the one at Manchester Hill Park. Ald. Wichgers
moved to approve the playground location and the path placement. Ms. Koble seconded. Upon a
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voice vote, the motion carried.
Denoon Park Parking
Board President Toby Whipple had requested this issue be deferred until June.
Jensen Park Fencing
Director Anderson reported that the work to be done on the Jensen Park fencing is similar to Bluhm Park field
#3. It's similar to Bluhm #3 for the $8,700; however, the department has not received a quote at this time.
Ald. Wichgers moved to approve funds, not to exceed $10,000, to redo the Jensen Park fencing. Ms.
Koble seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried.
OTHER BUSINESS
Subdivision Plans from Plan Commission
No plans submitted for review from the Plan Commission.
Next Meeting – The June meeting will occur on June 11.
COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW
Director Anderson shared with the Board members that the Common Council would like to see all the unpaved
recreation trails open to horseback riders. Board members discussed several issues on this request—other
trails do not allow it, public hearing so the homeowners could give their input, the manure, the hoof prints on
the trail. Also, rather than open all the trails to horse riders, to have a test period on certain portions of the trail
and that a contingency that the approval could change. Mr. Hulbert noted that certain areas of the city were
more conducive to horse riding due to their location to the stables. He further thought consideration could be
given to having a multi-use trail that would be open also to snowmobile riding. Director Anderson stated the
Common Council would like to add to the open space plan that consideration will be given and then the Board
needs to come up with a plan to implement it.
Ms. Koble was impressed with the dedication of Ms. Czarapata and Mr. Barloga's interest in the Luther Parker
Cemetery. Director Anderson said that Ms. Czarapata would like to have people recognize the value of the
cemetery.
Ms. Koble relayed her observations of the mile markers on the recreation trail. She wondered if the mileage
was accurate as she read them as 25 and 18. Director Anderson said it should be 2.5 and 1.8. He did look at
the signs when the contractor did them, but he will look at them again.
Mr. Hulbert would like Guernsey Meadows to establish a prairie there. He also mentioned the area in Denoon
Park where a prairie area could be started, rather than mow the area. They could probably work with the
students at Lake Denoon Middle School on this. The Board should identify certain areas to be natural states.
ADJOURNMENT - There being no further business, Mr. Hulbert moved for adjournment at 9:28 p.m.
Seconded by Ald. Wichgers. Upon a voice vote, the motion carried .
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Respectfully submitted,
Stella Dunahee, CPS
Recording Secretary
pc: Board Members, Craig Anderson
email: Mayor, Alderpersons, Department Heads, Peter Theis, Irene Schuder, Tammy Dunn,