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PRB121399minutes PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING MINUTES CITY OF MUSKEGO DECEMBER 13, 1999 APPROVED AS AMENDED, 1/10/00 The monthly meeting of the Parks and Recreation Board, City of Muskego, was called to order at 6:32p.m. by Chairperson Jerald Hulbert. The meeting notice was posted in accordance with the Open Meeting Law on Thursday, December 9, 1999. Present: Mr. Jerald Hulbert, Mrs. Kelly Koble, Ald. Le Doux, Mr. Richard Manchester, Mr. Howard Schneider, Mr. Toby Whipple and Mr. Craig Anderson (Director of Parks & Recreation). Absent: Mrs. Debbie Carlson was excused. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Ald. Le Doux moved to approve the minutes of October 23, 1999 meeting, as presented. Seconded by Howard Schneider. Motion carried by all. COMMUNICATIONS: Personal Appearances: William F. Leech - 30 acres Northview Road Mr. Leech representing Martha & Harvey Jenkins, spoke regarding the 30 acre parcel Northview Road adjacent to Bluhm Park. He felt a park would be a good use; there is sewer and no water accessible. Craig Anderson questioned access from Bluhm Park. Secondly, he questioned if City purchased property what use would be. Jerald Hulbert stated this parcel is not on Master Plan as park at this time; the City has not ever purchased prime development land for park purposes. Ald. Le Doux stated that if a park was not an option, conservancy may be a possibility. Howard Schneider stated his concerns regarding wetland, and drainage if considered conservancy. Jerald Hulbert stated that he has not seen this item come before the Plan Commission for use of this land. Richard Manchester stated $325,000.00 would be better used for existing parks, and does not see the need to acquire additional park lands. Kelly Koble stated the possibility of camping lands was discussed on the bus tour of the parks. Jerald Hulbert stated the Park Board does not have funds at this time to purchase this type of land. Craig Anderson stated there are Stewardship funds available through the State for land acquisition, but would be very difficult to acquire funding at this time. Howard Schneider questioned if the parcel could be divided as park land and conservancy, and Jerald Hulbert stated that could be a possibility. Mr. Leech stated the present zoning is R-2 Residential zoning, and both ends of the parcel have wetlands, but majority is lands Amended Minutes, Parks and Recreation Board Meeting Page 6 December 13, 1999 that could be used for park. Toby Whipple stated his concerns regarding funding for a park project. Howard Schneider moved to recommend to Council to negotiate this 30 acre property for conservancy option. Kelly Koble seconded. Toby Whipple questioned if part of this parcel could be purchased for park land; which was answered as a possibility. Richard Manchester opposed. Motion carried with a vote of ‘6 to 1.’ Bill Carity - Corrections to Bay Lane via Quitewood Jerald Hulbert summarized plans for the pedestrian/bike path for Quitewood with an approximately 4 acre wooded area near ‘Basse Woods’, and placement of off-road non- motorized trail to be placed through his property to Bay Lane School. Bill Carity presented plans for Quitewood regarding the 8 foot wide black-topped pedestrian/bike path in the right-of-way along the east side of the main street which will be renamed ‘Martin Drive’, which then becomes ‘Quietwood’, and continues to the west side and runs to the right-of-way into the street, due to terrain. He stated he does not view the path as a benefit to the subdivision. He suggested not putting in the path during construction of the 66-lot subdivision phase due to concrete trucks and sidewalk damage, etc. Jerald Hulbert stated that the path would need to be looked at first lift, and should go before the Plan Commission; he stated the Parks Board would be responsible maintaining condition of path such as snow removal. Mr. Carity stated he does not feel the homeowner should be responsible for any sidewalk repair. Richard Manchester stated his concern regarding timeframe for completion of bike path; Jerald Hulbert stated the path will have to be installed at the first lift in order to obtain building permits, and suggested he pursue this issue with the Public Works Committee. Secondly, Mr. Carity discussed the issue of the approximately 4 acre Outlot location to ‘Basse Woods’. He stated he is preserving trees of 6” diameter/caliper, or larger (mostly Hickory trees). He presented tree preservation plan regarding the wooded area planned for open space backing up to his subdivision, and would be willing to work with the City if the Outlot is desired to become parkland. Jerald Hulbert stated that access would need to be clearly posted to avoid homeowner disputes. Kelly Koble moved to forward this item to Council, and to enter the Parks & Recreation Board into negotiation to investigate the use of this property. Howard Schneider seconded. Jerald Hulbert stated that Parks would not have costs, as Mr. Carity is picking up the cost of the bike path and should be compensated for the approximately 10 acre property if used as a park. Richard Manchester stated he feels the park should be considered private for the 146-lot subdivision for homeowner use only. The issue of fencing the park in was discussed. Motion carried. Mr. Carity continued discussing the plans regarding utilitity easement and pedestrian path location and made suggestions of alignment of sanitary sewer location skirting the woods. Jerald Hulbert as well as Mr. Carity, suggested the City acquire the lot for sewer easement. Toby Whipple moved Mr. Carity enter into negotiation with the Mayor Amended Minutes, Parks and Recreation Board Meeting Page 6 December 13, 1999 regarding purchase by City. Seconded by Richard Manchester. Motion carried by all. Toby Whipple - Soccerfest th Saturday, June 10 will be a 3 vs. 3 tournament for players within Muskego Soccer Club. th Soccerfest will be held on Sunday, June 11. Permission requested for music in the shelter (11:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.) and permission to sell concessions (excluding alcohol) with proceeds to go to Muskego High School Booster Club. Ald. Le Doux moved to approve music and concessions for both days. Howard Schneider seconded. Toby Whipple abstained from vote. Motion carried by all. WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE: Police Department Incident Reports: Muskego Recreation Trail Protective covering over sign was damaged and repaired quoted at $125.00. Kelly Koble notified Board she noticed graffiti on green electric box. Denoon Park Basketball court was graffitied. Graffiti Damage Reimbursement - 10/1/98 Received $50.00 for graffiti damage sustained on Oct.1, 1998. Little Muskego Lake Protection & Rehabilitation District Letter Discussion was held regarding letter from Suzi Link regarding dredging spoils at future Park Arthur site. Howard Schneider reported a $8,500.00 fill cost. Two projects--Kurth Park will be complete by next year, and south of that; and Veterans Memorial Park will need to be surveyed and graded in the next 2 years. Howard Schneider moved to grant conceptual approval of receiving dredging spoil from the Lake District. Richard Manchester seconded. Discussion was continued regarding height of fill for sledding hill. Motion carried by all. Item will be placed on January agenda for Craig Anderson’s review. OLD BUSINESS: Idle Isle No Fishing On the Parks tour notice was taken regarding lights. Light will be moved to the launch and the ‘no fishing’ sign that was attached to the light on the WEPCO pole is now being considered for location. Recommendation was no fishing from parking lots or from channel. Howard Schneider stated he felt it should be left as is now. Kelly Koble questioned the type of problems; and Mr. Schneider stated the main problems were litter and using bushes as bathrooms, and felt if it is changed problems will reoccur. Four citizens spoke regarding fishing in channel area. They reported ‘no fishing’ signs are being removed and litter in parking lots and island. Craig Anderson stated a survey was Amended Minutes, Parks and Recreation Board Meeting Page 6 December 13, 1999 conducted regarding all uses of the park, and complaints of ‘no fishing’ areas were noted. Observations were noted on the Park Board tour. Suggestion was made to open up the area between the two channels, of which the citizens were opposed. Richard Manchester stated he felt there were no hardships to anyone by leaving the channel as it is now. Toby Whipple moved to direct Craig Anderson to keep the ‘no fishing’ signs posted on the north side of the island, and remove sign from light pole location on the south side of bridge. Howard Schneider seconded. Richard Manchester discussed restriction of fishing on private property. Ald. Le Doux discussed public access rights. Motion carried by all. At this time, the Board took a 5 minute recess. The Board went back into session at this time. Facility Agreement Craig Anderson stated no changes were noted other than Muskego-Norway School District priorities, and pool costs. He stated in January he would again be discussing with the Finance Committee regarding pool costs. Ald. Le Doux moved to approve the general Draft Agreement, minus the pool cost issue, and changing the Priority 2 to EG for the Soccer Club. Toby Whipple seconded. Richard Manchester discussed an amendment to the agreement regarding field use. Craig Anderson stated that time period could be stated in the agreement for field access. Toby Whipple questioned field usage requirement of 100% residency rate, and pool usage for similar organizations listed at 75% residency rate. He stated the problem lies in the Priority 2 for the Muskego soccer club, as they are not 100% residents, and stated he wanted to be listed in the EG, not Priorty 2 due to this fact. Jerald Hulbert gave historical background of MAA baseball is 100%, and SWAT group was not 100% resident requirement—field usage was limited, and pool time was more readily available. Motion carried by all. Tudor Oaks Property Craig Anderson discussed his concern regarding the Tudor Oaks property is the placement of structures on land that is leased rather than land that is owned. Lease agreement was discussed. Richard Manchester stated he felt that an agreement should be negotiated for future use. Howard Schneider agreed with Richard’s viewpoint. The Board deferred this item as an agenda item for the next month’s meeting for further review and recommendation. Denoon Park Reseeding Craig Anderson stated when they received quotes back, it was too late to reseed Denoon Park. Toby Whipple stated that there may be volunteers to spread seed in the spring, and Amended Minutes, Parks and Recreation Board Meeting Page 6 December 13, 1999 save City reseeding charges. This item is deferred as an agenda item for the next month’s agenda for further discussion. MAA Baseball Fields Craig Anderson stated meeting with Bay Lane School officials was held regarding timeframe for Parks crew to have access for maintenance of the fields. Brief discussion was held regarding proposal submitted from Craig Anderson, and will forward the proposals on to MAA. Pay Rates Craig Anderson stated comparison of pay rates especially for lifeguard rates, and found Muskego is at the top of the pay scale, but other municipalities will be increasing their rates in 2000. Horse Trails Ald. Le Doux stated he has been in contact with the DNR and State Offices regarding extension into other municipalities. This item was deferred for next meeting. DEPARTMENT REPORT: Recreation: Registration Craig Anderson stated they now have 16 extra pages of programming. Will review all programs--eliminating dying programs, and maintain growth of current programs. Christmas Tree Lighting Went well with approximately 300 persons in attendance. Parks: Project Updates Craig Anderson reported on Veterans Memorial Park waiting for pavillon, Manchester Hill, Idle Isle light moved and bridge painted, Denoon Park overlay in spring, baseball field, Kurth Park timeline for grading and erosion control, playground and natural fence line. Park Arthur needs to be reviewed for Master Plan or Conceptual Plan. NEW BUSINESS: 2000 Meeting Schedule Parks & Recreation Board meetings will be held March-Dec. in LCR5 (excluding November, which will be in LCR3) in the new Library. Subdivision Plans From Plan Commission: Rosewood Estates - Final Plat Craig Anderson discussed Rosewood Estates Final Plat and City decided not to purchase additional property. Amended Minutes, Parks and Recreation Board Meeting Page 6 December 13, 1999 Champions Village #2 - Final Plat Nothing to report on Champions Village #2 Final Plat at this time. COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW None ADJOURNMENT: There being no further business, Richard Manchester moved for adjournment, seconded by Kelly Koble Upon a voice vote, the motion carried. The meeting adjourned at 10:13 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Pat Reilly Recording Secretary pc: Board Members, Craig Anderson email: Mayor, Alderpersons, Peter Theis, Irene Schuder, Tammy Dunn, Brian Turk