PRB030998minutes
PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING
CITY OF MUSKEGO
Monday, March 9, 1998
MINUTES CORRECTED MINUTES PER 4/13/98 MEETING
The Monthly meeting of the Parks and Recreation Board, City of Muskego, was called to order at
6:00 p.m., by Chairperson Jerald Hulbert
PRESENT: Jerald Hulbert, Howard Schneider, Alderman Mark Slocomb, Ron Stephens, Toby
Whipple, Debbie Carlson, Richard Manchester and those per the attached list. Gordon Jacobson
(Recreation Director) and Peter Theis (Parks Director) were absent.
The meeting notice was posted in accordance with the Open Meeting Law on March 5, 1998.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - Ald. Slocomb moved to approve minutes of the February 9, 1998
meeting. Seconded by Ron Stephens. Carried by all.
COMMUNICATIONS
The Mayor was present to introduce to the Board Mr. Craig Anderson, Parks and Recreation
Director. Craig will be assuming his newly created position on Thursday, March 12, 1998.
PERSONAL APPEARANCES:
1. Bill Kehl - Rollerblading/skateboarding facility - Bill and JoAnn Kehl were present to determine the
level of interest this Board would have in the creation of a rollerblading/skateboard facility. Mr. Kehl
explained that damage can occur to curbs in the area when a facility is not available to the residents.
The residents visited several sites within Wisconsin and two in Illinois. At those sites, liability waivers
were signed by the participants and the individuals paid for the amount of time spent using the skate
park. The ownership and funding varied at the sites, with some community-based and others
privately owned. Mr. Kehl produced statistics which indicated that there are 6,200,000 individuals
participating in skateboarding with 27,718 injuries occurring annually with a very low .49%
injury/participant ratio. The residents would prefer an indoor complex of approximately 10,000
square feet in size. Jerald Hulbert would like to see hard data on the number of interested
participants, including names and addresses of those persons. Rich Manchester questioned the
issue of funding for a building complex and future support of the park. Mr. Manchester also
suggested that existing sites be considered both indoor and outdoor. Mr. Kehl was instructed to
obtain a list of those individuals interested in the creation of the suggested facility and to report back
to this Board with his findings.
2a. Doug Aird - Water Bugs Water Ski Team - Idle Isle Lease Usage Agreement - Mr. Aird
presented the Board with the 1998 lease usage agreement. The schedule of dates requested by the
ski team includes 4 Thursday evening dates (June 25, July 2, 9, and 16) necessary to practice for
the state competition. The lease is the same as last year with the addition of the Thursday evenings.
The group is requesting that they be allowed to use the grass area adjacent to the existing parking
area for 10-12 cars (weather permitting). The Park Manager would be making the determination as
to the availability of the area based on weather conditions. Rich Manchester recommend approval
of Idle Isle lease agreement contingent upon Parks and Recreation Director approval. Debbie
Carlson seconded. Carried by all.
2b. Idle Isle Concession Stand Lease Agreement - Mr. Aird has requested that the concession stand
expand its hours on Saturday and Sunday from 9:00 - 5:00 p.m., for June July and August. Toby
Whipple moved to approve for discussion only. Seconded by Ald. Slocomb. Mr. Aird clarified that
the concession stand would be open only on show nights (Wednesdays), Saturday’s and Sunday’s.
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Due to the age of the lease (1996) and Mr. Aird being unable to review the text of the lease in time
for the meeting, Mr. Aird was instructed to review the lease with the new Parks and Recreation
Director. Rich Manchester moved to defer item until next month’s meeting. Seconded by Toby
Whipple. Carried by all.
3. Mr. Fred Washa - Community Center Proposal - Mr. Washa provided a detailed site plan layout
with topography to scale. The parking lots would be installed in two phases, in conjunction with the
building of the complex (Phase #1 Community Center, Phase #2 Aquatic Center, Gym and
Performing Arts Center). Initially the first phase would include 244 spaces for cars, with a potential
408 spaces added when the second phase occurs. Mr. Washa indicated that their 501(c) 3
designation is being obtained from the IRS. Storm water calculations from R&M, based on a two-
phase build-out of the center indicate that the storm flows could fit into the existing pond during
Phase #1. Storm flows from Phase #2 would require the addition of approximately 1 acre-foot of
pond. Rich Manchester and the Board members would like to strongly see other sites considered.
According to Mr. Washa, several other areas were offered but lacked water and sewer service. The
compaction ratios were not available, but Mr. Dave Taube indicated that the buildings would be
resting on native, undisturbed land and the parking lot would occupy the space currently used by the
soccer field. The soccer field loss and potential replacement was discussed. Proper utilization of
the land the building is planned to occupy was discussed. The land was initially donated to the city
to be used as parkland. The legality of using this land for the building of a structure was questioned.
Debbie Carlson moved to have Ald. Slocomb meet with the City Attorney to determine the feasibility
of using this site for this purpose. Seconded by Howard Schneider. Carried by all. Ron Stephens,
Rich Manchester and Jerald Hulbert are concerned over the loss of green space this complex poses.
Discussion continued regarding using this site or leaving the area as is. Toby Whipple does not feel
the site and the building planned for the site will be financially viable. Rich Manchester made a
motion to recommend that the site in question not be donated for the Muskego Community Center
Complex and retain the area as a green space. Seconded by Toby Whipple. Vote: 6 yes, 1 no
(Debbie Carlson). The Board reminded Mr. Washa and Mr. Taube that they are committed to work
with them to find a suitable location for this center and applaud their efforts to date.
WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE
Police Department incident reports - Peter Theis provided a written report. Monday, February 23rd
the police reported the following damage to Denoon Park over the weekend: A Sand barrel was
over-turned with sand on roadway, sign in parking lot pulled out of ground and extensive turf
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damage as a result of vehicles driven on lawn. Thursday, February 26 it was reported that a
support leg on one of the team benches at Denoon Park had been sawed off. Additional patrol of
the area has been requested.
OLD BUSINESS
Community Center Proposal - Please see “Personal Appearances #3”.
Land O’ Lakes waiver of use fee - At last months meeting it was mentioned that the MHS Impact
baseball team is the only community-based team that pays a fee to use the City ball diamonds. Due
to the team not truly a “youth” league, they do not fit within the age parameters outlined within the
current policy. Granting an exception to the policy for this team was discussed. Toby Whipple will
be forming a sub-committee, comprised of this Board’s members to review and potentially
recommend revision to the current policy. Toby Whipple, Craig Anderson, Ald. Slocomb and Rich
Manchester (if available) will comprise the sub-committee.
DEPARTMENT REPORTS
RECREATION
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Program Status - Nothing to report
Review Rugby Field, Muskego Kickers Soccer Club and baseball/softball field request - Toby
Whipple mentioned that the request he previously filed for the Wave soccer camp should have been
included in this packet. The even will occur in August. Ron Stephens moved to approve the field
requests as submitted, including the Wave soccer camp, contingent upon the Parks and Recreation
Director review. Rich Manchester seconded. Carried by all.
PARKS - Nothing to report
COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW
The former agenda item topic discussing potential properties for acquisition was removed until actual
sites are brought forth by the landholders for consideration.
Rich Manchester requested clarification on the Linnie Lac spoils usage plan. The Board had given
conceptual approval to use the material in the construction of a berm and to fill in low spots. The
environmental impact of using this material was discussed.
Ron Stephens formally welcomed Craig Anderson and questioned the method of educating Craig on
this Board’s activities and hot issues. Jerald Hulbert has met with Mr. Anderson and will meet with
him in the near future. Any Board members interested in participating are welcome.
ADJOURNMENT - Being no further business to discuss Ald. Slocomb moved to adjourn the meeting
at 8:51, seconded by Toby Whipple. Motion carried by all.
Respectfully submitted,
Linda Gulgowski
Recording Secretary