PRB020998minutes
PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING MINUTES
CITY OF MUSKEGO
Monday, February 9, 1998
The Monthly meeting of the Parks and Recreation Board, City of Muskego, was called to order at
6:00 p.m., by Chairperson Jerald Hulbert
PRESENT: Jerald Hulbert, Howard Schneider, Alderman Mark Slocomb, Gordon Jacobson
(Recreation Director), Peter Theis (Parks Director), Ron Stephens, Toby Whipple, Debbie Carlson
(left meeting at 8:40) and those per the attached list. Richard Manchester was excused.
The meeting notice was posted on February 5, 1998 in accordance with the Open Meeting Law.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - Ron Stephens moved to approve minutes. Seconded by Toby Whipple.
Carried by all.
COMMUNICATIONS
PERSONAL APPEARANCES:
1. Doug Aird - Water Bugs Water Ski Slalom Course Proposal - Mr. Aird was present and indicated
that various items need to be worked out in regards to the price of the event versus the cost of the
course. Doug requests that this item be removed from subsequent agendas until he has the
additional information.
2. Mr. Fred Washa - Community Center Proposal - Mr. Washa provided a detailed time frame of the
project and responses to the questions raised at last months meeting (attached). Specific
discussion with regard to the date of the most recent drainage plan which was 1995. Ald. Slocomb
indicated that since 1995 storm water drainage specifications have been greatly enhanced. There
may be the need to modify the proposed plan due to this. Drainage from a grassy area now covered
by a hard surface (parking lot) and the issues that would pose were discussed along with land usage
of the parcel in question, parking lot size, capacity, site plan layout with topography to scale, storm
water calculations, location of the center and the possibility of alternate locations were discussed.
Community Center Board members Bob Bueckers and Dave Taube indicated that this site is the first
choice. However, they are willing to explore other options. Resident Jerome Satorius questioned
why this particular site has been chosen due to the need to absorb the soccer field on the proposed
location. A March 28, 1998 open meeting is being proposed to allow citizens to voice their concerns
and support for the project. Ald. Slocomb moved to defer until a site plan with anticipated building
overlay, parking lot, topography, storm water drainage, and compaction ratios are provided.
Seconded by Toby Whipple. Carried by all. Place on next months agenda
3. Park and Recreation Issues - Mayor De Angelis - The Mayor provided some insight on the
upcoming Parks and Recreation Department reorganization. A selection has been made in the
hiring of a Parks and Recreation Director. The individual selected has accepted the offer extended.
The candidate will be introduced tomorrow evening at the Common Council meeting. A March 12,
1998 start date has been set, pending approval from the Common Council. March 12, 1998 will be
Gordon Jacobson’s last day with the Parks Department. Peter Theis has accepted the Parks
Supervisor position. Gordon Jacobson requests letter of recommendation from the Parks Board and
from the Mayor’s office. Jerald Hulbert mentioned what an exemplary job Gordon has done in the
past.
4a. Dumping of Dredged Materials From Linnie Lac to Park Arthur - Ron Ford - According to Mr.
Ford, 12-18 inches of muck has settled in the area. Due to this event, attention has been drawn to
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the issue. Money has been raised and grants have been provided to rebuild the dam. Previously,
bids were obtained and subsequently rejected to dredge the lake. The estimated cost to remove
30,000 yards of material was $300,000 which was deemed too high. The bulk of the costs of the
project was the trucking away and disposal of the material. Howard Schneider and Ron Ford have
been looking at alternate dumping sites. A berm in the Thiesenhusen Park area or the creation of a
sledding hill were suggested. If dredging does not occur, the muck will run into the Idle Isle area.
Ownership of the dam was discussed and at this time is not known for certain. Peter Theis feels that
a development plan need to be completed. The Mayor indicated that he would request that the
trucking of the material be minimal due to the dust and that the material not be used for parking lots.
Howard Schneider would like to proceed with this project since the dredging and viable disposal
methods of these materials continue to be a concern. Ron Stephens moved to approve the project
presented as a concept until further information is available. Seconded by Howard Schneider.
Carried by all. Discussion regarding the 3 uses for the material. If a berm is the first choice, the
residents in the area need to be talked with. It is believed that this area is served by Ald. Pionek. If
low spots are to be filled in, the areas with the shortest trucking distance are to be used. Finally,
addition to an existing hill.
4b. Environmental Easement on Ridges Outlot - Ron Ford - Ron requests that this item be stuck
from the agenda. He was unaware of its placement on the agenda and was not prepared to discuss.
The Mayor was also questioned on this matter by Chairman Hulbert. The Mayor has no data at this
time as well.
5a. Horn Park Field of Dreams Proposal - Jim Haag - As a country-wide initiative, True Value has
taken on the task of providing $1,000 worth of materials and the labor involved with the rehabilitation
of baseball diamonds in the United States. A request for funding was submitted some time ago
through Rozman’s True Value. To-date, no response has been received. A wish list has been
compiled on the application (attached) detailing the work requested. Debbie Carlson moved to
approve the concept of field repair work, contingent upon True Value acceptance of the grant
request. Seconded by Toby Whipple. Carried by all.
5b. Horn Park Fence Advertising - Jim Haag - The issue to be considered with this proposal include,
the backstop replacement, at least 15 sections of bleachers have missing end-caps and the well
head’s proximity to the parking lot. A safer and enhanced facility are being requested. In order to
fund these improvements as well as provide the team with income for equipment and uniforms it has
been suggested that advertising banners be sold to prospective buyers with the banners hung on
the fence areas. A sample brochure of the company providing the banners was provided (attached).
It was proposed that 25 ads be sold over two years at $500.00 per sign. The group has not
contacted the High School or the Mavericks youth baseball team to inform or inquire about their
desire to participate in this project. Debbie Carlson stated that the many safety hazards mentioned
by Mr. Haag should be corrected and funded by the Parks Department. Ron Stephens was
concerned about the precedent this action would set. Funds raised and the percentage of those
funds going back into the maintenance of the field was discussed. Ald. Slocomb concerned over the
installation of signs on public property to fund private enterprises. Ron Stephens moved to deny
proposal due to funding raised would support private organization. Seconded by Howard
Schneider. Carried by all. Topic of waiver of use fee to be considered an agenda item at next
months meeting. Additionally, fee charged to group is needed.
WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE - None
OLD BUSINESS
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Denoon Parks Assessment/improvements - Fill will become available at the end of April to level off
or raise playing surfaces currently not very usable in the area. Ground breaking will occur at the
school providing the dirt. Targeting the areas requiring immediate attention is recommended. The
amount of excess spoil available is necessary. Rough and final grading ownership was discussed.
Availability of a current topographical survey was questioned. Howard Schneider moved to secure
engineering services with R&M providing bids for grading and drainage on parcel as identified.
Seconded by Ron Stephens. Carried by all. Jerald Hulbert to contact Mayor to determine ownership
of project.
Review Kurth Park Proposals - Peter Theis provided R&M’s recommendation for Kurth Park
development project. Toki & Associates, Inc., was selected by R&M to perform the job. Peter Theis
is concerned about the level of detail this firm will be able to provide for this project. Peter also
questioned why R&M did not handle this project as they have on similar projects in the past? Toby
Whipple moved to defer item to Finance Committee and instructs Ald. Slocomb to obtain additional
information to determine rationale of selection process used by R&M. Seconded by Ron Stephens.
Carried by all.
DEPARTMENT REPORTS
RECREATION - Gordon had nothing to report
PARKS - Peter had nothing to report
NEW BUSINESS, OTHER BUSINESS
Avion Estates - Peter Theis provided a detailed drawing of this development and its location with
respect to an area identified as a natural resource. Protection of the surrounding area was
discussed.
COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW
Jerald Hulbert received a telephone call regarding Horn Field monument area. A resident has
volunteered to paint the flagpole and trim shrubs in the area. The caller was instructed to discuss
with Peter Theis proposed plan of action.
Jerald Hulbert has been informed that funding will become available for a parcel of land near Hwy Y
& Racine Avenue. The property owner would like to sell this piece of land to the City. A recent
environmental resources survey indicated only one property in the City was likely to qualify for
funding in the current window of opportunity. The particular property owner had contacted the City in
the past about a possible sale of his property, but there have not been any recent discussions. As
his item develops further, it will be placed on a future agenda.
ADJOURNMENT - Being no further business to discuss Ald. Slocomb moved to adjourn the meeting
at 9:00, seconded by Howard Schneider. Motion carried by all.
Respectfully submitted,
Linda Gulgowski
Recording Secretary