PRB061096minutesCORRECTED MINUTES
l/9/96 PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD, CITY OF MUSKEGO
MONDAY, JUNE 10, 1996
The monthly meeting of the Parks and Recreation Board, City of
Muskego, was called to order at 6:02 p.m. by Chairperson Jerald
Hulbert.
PRESENT: Jerald Hulbert, Richard Manchester, Alderman Pat
Patterson, Howard Schneider, Ron Stephens, Toby
Whipple, Gordon L. Jacobson (Recreation Director) and
Peter Theis (Parks Director)
ABSENT: Debbie Carlson
The new Board member was absent, therefore, no introduction was
made.
GUESTS: See attached list.
Notice of the meeting was posted on June 6 and I in accordance with the Open Meeting Law.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
A motion was made by Ron Stephens to approve the minutes of the
Board meeting held on Monday, May 13, 1996, as mailed. Richard
Manchester seconded. Motion carried unanimously.
PERSONAL APPEARANCES:
Muskeqo Historical Society site plans
Ken Pakulski of the Muskego Historical Society provided a written report (attached to the official minutes). The report
outlined completed and ongoing projects at the site. Future
plans with City officials and organizations for the development of this site will be set up. Other issues included lighting,
parking, crime prevention, restrooms, etc. A blueprint was
reviewed by the Board members as presented by Ken Pakulski.
Possible funding through grants was proposed for such items as
the restrooms. Questions and answers followed presentation.
(1) Time frame on Country Market in relation to the present
bike path, possible boardwalk was suggested. Wetland
rehabilitation was also discussed with the D.N.R.'s (Wisconsin
Department of Natural Resources) co-operation. (2) Liqhtinq
issue with the assistance of Muskegofest was discussed. Light
direction was briefly talked about as well as location of any
light poles and fixtures in relation to the existing facilities. Flag poles were also proposed. (3) Market Square
was described as being an open-aired environment opened up to the entire community for a multitude of purposes. Starting
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such a project
gravel surface without the structure was discussed utilizing a
and portable sanitary facilities. (4) General Store timetable was outlined; it is contingent on the restrooms being erected. Budget for the restrooms is being formulated with State assistance regarding building specifications. (5) Multiple use of area discussed--other users, ice rink, etc.
Handicapped accessibility was discussed. Initiating this project prior to major expenditures was again brought up by Jerald Hulbert. Start the market in the sites present condition was suggested. Alderman Patterson reiterated this suggestion. Restroom costs are still pending between Society and architect. Portable toilet costs were further discussed. (6) Site changes were brought to the Board's attention;
building direction was pointed out as being a change. Motion was made by Alderman Patterson provided the Market be moved to an alternate site not to interfere with the existing bike path. Toby Whipple seconded the motion. Discussion. Ron Stephens questioned the distance to the proposed restroom sites. Howard Schneider questioned how binding the plan
approved by this Board was. Plan Commission would be involved. Suggestion made that Board members visit site. Richard Manchester called the question to get that suggestion answered. Alderman Patterson objected to calling the question. Motion to call question--nay, all but Richard Manchester. Motion withdrawn by Alderman Patterson and Toby Whipple withdrew his second. Ken Pakulski to reappear before
the Board next month. Summarv of issues: (1) site for
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restrooms (fixed facilities);*(2) existing bike trail in
relation to the proposed overall market site; (3) size of
parking lot and how many events will be conducted throughout a given season. Ken Pakulski invited Board members to meet with him and his architect on the site prior to next month. Howard Schneider questioned the landscaping of the site. A plan will
be ready for next month's meeting.
Plum Creek subdivision playqround equipment
Homeowners were given the option of what to do with equipment.
An on-site lot in Plum Creek East was chosen to be the site as to where the playground will be located. Motion to accept the
relocation on a cul de sac on Providence Way was made by Ron Stephens and seconded by Toby Whipple. No discussion. Motion carried unanimously.
Idle Isle Park additional parkinq
Mr. Domenic Miosi questioned the increased pass fee but was
more concerned with car-trailer parking. Cited a lack of trailer-car parking as his main concern. (18 stalls exist) Grass p arking was what Mr. Miosi was suggesting for an additional area after an extended explanation. No parking on Pleasant View was questioned as an alternate launch site. Richard Manchester quetioned the "no parking" in the immediate
Idle Isle Park neighborhood.
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Mr. Tony Zinski was recognized to make his comments reqarding
his concerns which echoed Mr. Miosi's. Howard Schneider commended that usage is never denied, boat launching is always opened to boaters. Alderman Patterson suggested alternate public parking sites. Jerry Hulbert called for a motion to expand the parking to limit the discussion. Richard Manchester motioned to add parkinq prior to next meetinq if little or no
costs are involved, not to exceed 5 additional parkinq spaces. Motion died for lack of a second. Ron Stephens made motion to
added parkinq prior to next meetinq if little or no costs are
involved, not to exceed 3 additional parkinq spaces. Howard
Schneider seconded the motion. (Board recognizes it cannot
accommodate all the boaters' needs.) Motion carried
unanimously. Mr. Miosi questioned the pier design and safety
concerns. Tony Zinski questioned the second pass purchasing
procedure. He was told he could purchase a second pass at the designated price. Questioned the dredging projects restoration
status and concern that it was not adequately done. Howard
Schneider brought up the buoy issue and its status.
WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE:
Notice of Public Hearinq
The Board members reviewed the notice of the public hearing of
Tuesday, June 25, 7:30 p.m. regarding the collection of fees at
the three lake access road ends.
Mr. Niezgoda's concerns at Horn Field
The Board were in receipt of Gordon Jacobson's letter regarding
Mr. Niezgoda's concerns on Horn Field issues. (The letter is
part of the official minutes.)
DJ at Bluhm Farm Park
Mrs. Debbie Jacomet requested on behalf of the Meadow Greens
Subdivision to have a D.J. at Bluhm Farm Park for their rental
date. (Request attached to the official minutes.) Motion to
accept the request by Alderman Patterson to discuss. Ron
Stephens seconded. Discussion to limit D.J. hours from 1:00
p.m.-lo:00 p.m. positioning speakers towards woods. Motion
carried unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS:
Gate on Tower Drive
The procedure to secure the gate on Tower Drive was reviewed.
Alderman Salentine reviewed the past Board minutes regarding the decision to go with this procedure and noted no procedure
was formulated according to the minutes. (1) The locking and unlocking of the gate was discussed. (2) Issuing the keys was also discussed. Alderman Patterson questioned residents on
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Tower Drive regarding the situation. (1) Access to games was questioned by the residents in attendance (reference sign-in list). (2) Signs, changing procedure was also suggested by the residents in attendance. (3) Traffic on Horn Park Drive was also commented on as to being dangerous. (4) Trespassing has shifted to other lots. (5) Gate locked at other times not
designated by Board. (Copy of petition by Pioneer residents filed with official minutes.) (6) Information passed on to Mrs. Heckert regarding all programming was questioned. Pete Theis, the Parks Director, passed the "thank you" card around submitted by Mrs. Heckert. Alderman Patterson moved to remove
the gate lock for a 30-day trial period or until the next meetinq. Toby Whipple seconded. Richard Manchester called for the question. Motion carried unanimously.
Thiesenhusen property
Pete Theis updated the Board members on the acquisition of the
Thiesenhusen property. (1) Offer to Purchase reviewed with
the D.N.R. (2) Agricultural Impact Statement (A.I.S.) update.
(3) Relocation Plan discussed. Richard Manchester cautioned the issue. This will be placed on next month's agenda.
Kurth Park issued raised. The purchase of that parkland by the
homeowners was discussed. Was that a contingency for the
Thiesenhusen property was questioned? Alderman Patterson to
find an answer to that question.
DEPARTMENT REPORTS:
RECREATION
Program status
Gordy gave an updated report on the recreation programs. Highlighted the Hershey Track meet and combining future meets
with the Franklin Recreation Department. The promotion of the
meet was questioned.
Gymnastics equipment
D.P.W. (Department of Public Works) to store equipment for the
Recreation Department if necessary. Kathy Nelson of Midwest
Twisters to meet with Jerry Hulbert and Gordy Jacobson to
review equipment and set up.
PARKS
Payment boxes at Public Accesses #I, #9, #15
This issue has been relocated to the Public Hearing. Pete explained the historical background.
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Idle Isle concession stand lease
All the lease agreement issues were addressed with the exception of the certificate of insurance which is presently
being drawn up between Mr. Kusmin and his agent.
Parkland Plaza soccer field and parkinq lot
The letter from Ruekert and Mielke was read to update the Board
on this situation. Future of the site was discussed by Jerald
Hulbert.
Police Department incident reports
The incident reports investigated by the police department were Lack Access #8 (5/16/96), Bay Lane (5/28/96), graffiti at Horn
and Schmidt (6/10/96), and ruts at Emerald and Denoon (6/10/96).
May grass cuttinq report
For their information, Pete provided the Board members with a
report on the cutting of the grass by the Parks Department crew
for the month of May which met pre-assigned goals. Discussion
of private contract also was discussed.
NEW BUSINESS, OTHER BUSINESS:
Subdivision plans from Plan Commission
In the matter of the Candlewood Creek preliminary plat
(reapplicaton), Jerry Hulbert gave a synopsis of the situation
as it relates to Park Board matters. Pedestrian trail along
creek, trail into Guernsey Meadows. Developer to provide the
highlighted amenities as shown on the map presented.
Public Access #8 funds for DNR permit
Site Plan (filed with the official minutes) was presented by
Mark Paulat to the Board. Draft included a gate, shoreline
restoration, fencing, pier, etc. Costs and time frame were
questioned. Trees were major expense. Motion made by Alderman
Patterson to approve site plan less the trees. Seconded by
Howard Schneider. Discussion followed about financial
considersations to fund corner point designation. $300-$400
would be needed to complete the necessary lot-line designation
work. Alderman Patterson amended his motion to add not to
exceed $400. Howard Schneider agreed to second the addition to
the motion by Alderman Patterson. Toby Whipple questioned the
culvert. Removal of the concrete invert was discussed as being
part of the site plan. Motion summary: eliminate trees from
plan, acceptance of Richard preliminary plan, $400 maximum.
Manchester questioned the whole concept. Motion carried, with Richard Manchester opposed. Grass cutting of Public Access #8
was discussed as to letting the neighbors cut the grass on a
rotating basis once boundary lines are established.
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Public Access #8 piers
A pier section was requested to be installed at this site. Alderman Patterson questioned this request as to how it would affect other sites. Jerry Hulbert recapped the past procedures regarding such requests. Explained situation. Ron Stephens
moved to have constituents make and install a pier to be inspected by Parks Director. Alderman Patterson seconded.
Motion carried unanimously.
COMMUNICATIONS AND MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW:
There was none.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, Alderman Patterson moved to adjourn, Toby Whipple seconded. The motion carried. The meeting adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Pete &heis
for Parks and Recreation Board
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Parks and Recreation Board Members
FROM: Gordon L. Jacobson, Recreation Director
DATE: June 6, 1996
RECFLEATION OFF-ICE
Gordon Jacobson, Director
(414) 679-5635
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ED NIEZGODA CONVERSATION REGARDING HORN PARK
Ed Niezgoda telephoned me on Thursday, June 6, regarding
following concerns with Horn Park:
He is concerned that more than one person has keys to the
gate. He feels that the policy was established for the
gate to be closed during ball games in order to eliminate
trespassing traffic. He is concerned that other people in
the neighborhood who were issued keys will unlock the gate
during games.
When the gate is locked, people have trespassed on Mr. Niezgoda's property in order to get around the fence. He
has also observed kids climbing over the fence on to and from his property.
Last year, due to the success of the Muskego High School
baseball team, parking was excessive in Horn Park. He
also observed parking along the bike trail up to Racine Avenue. Mr. Niezgoda is concerned that safety vehicles
may not be able to have proper access to Horn Park during a game due to the excess parking.
Despite the fence and the netting put in place, Mr.
Niezgoda and the Heckerts are still getting balls in their
yards.
It is Mr. Niezgoda's feeling that the baseball games
should not be held at Horn Park. He feels that Horn Park
is not an adequate facility to host games.
Pete Theis
W182S8200Racine Avenue l Box903 . Muskego, Wisconsin 53150-0903 l Fax (414) 679-5637
REPORT TO PARK AND RECREATION. Mondav JUNE 11.1996
0 I. FINISHED THE SPLIT RAIL FENCE FROM DISH ANTENNA TO PATH WAY
NEXT TO WOODS. THIS WAY THERE WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM IN
CUTTTING THE LAWN.
A) User our workers to split ( halved and quarter telephone posts)
B) established new fence (split rail at entry to barn area)
C) Moved pews into church for carpenters to work on.
D) Leveled ground north, south and west section of church.
E) Removed old wood from around church and future store location
F) Made arrangement with Home Improvement Specialists for interior church work
2. Meeting to be setup with Mayor of Muskego and other organizations to discuss future
plans and drawings for the future complete park area with PARK AND RECREATION
chairman attending.
3. Hope to remove old walls in front of store location
4. Would like to see some type of lighting into walkway areas because of possible crime
area. Have spoken to other folks about the problem.
0 5. Had short meeting with Mr. Jack Sperol about the future site plans.
6. talked to Architect about the site plans and reviewed them ( REALLY WILL BE TO
THE GOOD OF THE CITY OF MUSKEGO.
7. Looking for some dry top soil for in front and south side of church for planting. The
way it’s going might just put Christmas trees up rather then flowers.
8. The stones which were donated to the Society could be used for a fountain with a flag
pole in the center between church and store. This all could shot into postal cards of the
city with money going to Historical Society and for the up keep.
9. Looking into rest rooms and the cost factors involved from the state.
ANY QUESTIONS:
Very Sincerely yours
Q< en Pakulski
PT:ejd 06/04/96
GRASS CUTTING REPORT (S/1/96-5/31/96)
Total Days . 31
Less Rsln Daya = _6
Subtotal........ 25
Leee Holiday - - 1 -
Subtotal......., 24
Number of Rounds 4
Average Cutting Frequency = Every 6 Daylr
CITY OF MUSKEGO OFFICE OF THE MAYOR
W182 SE200 Racine Avenue, Muskego, WI 53150 - FAX: 679-5630
PHONE: 679-5675 679-4188
MEMORANDUM
TO: Parks 6 Recreation Board
FROM: * Mayor David L. De Angelis
DATE: June 10, 1996
RE: Public Access #8
In regard to the item on tonight's agenda for Lake Access #8, in
dealing with this particular issue over the past couple of weeks
as well years with many surrounding property owners, it would be my recommendation to the Board that:
1. Property boundaries be identified and staked with
some type of marker.
2. The City of Muskego take over maintenance of this
park access.
3. The Parks & Recreation Board implement the Development Plan as outlined in Alderman Salentine's presentation.
I believe that by doing these three things, it will enhance park
access #8, as well as alleviate concerns over acceptable and
nonacceptable uses of this park property.
Thank you for your consideration.
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