PRB041188minutesMINUTES
PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING, CITY OF MLISKEGO
MONDAY, APRIL 11, 1988
The monthly meeting of the Muskego Parks and Recreation Board was called to order at 7:05 PM
by President Robert Rasmussen.
PRESENT: Jerald Hulbert, Dennis Kucharski, Richard Manchester, Thomas Millonzi, Alderman
Pat Patterson (arrived at 7:30 PM), Robert Rasmussen, Ronald Stephens, Jackie
Schweitzer (Recreation Supervisor) and Peter Theis (Parks Supervisor).
GUESTS: See attached sheet.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Correction to minutes of March 14, 1988 meeting:
1. The bids that were reviewed were for Idle Isle (1st proposal) and Horn (2nd
proposal).
2. The bike path discussion should have been 2700 feet, not 2700 square feet.
Jerry Hulbert moved to approve the minutes as corrected of the March 14th meeting. Ron
Stephens seconded. Motion carried.
PERSONAL APPEARANCES:
aterbugs Ski Club's use of Idle Isle for 1988, dates and practices (Randy Vogt)
Jerry Hulbert moved to approve the practice and show dates and times for the Waterbugs'
use of Idle Isle Park. Ron Stephens seconded. Motion carried. Dick Manchester moved
to cancel practice dates if the parking/launching policy changes. Motion died for lack
of a second.
U12 metro soccer/waiver of athletic field usage fee (Jim Valerine)
(Ron Stephens abstained from discussion and voting on this issue.) Richard Manchester
moved to waive the athletic field usage fee one time only (for the spring 1988 season).
Dennis Kucharski seconded. Motion carried.
~ Ingersoll development at DandiLion Park (John Ingersoll)
As this issue was not on the March agenda, Mr. John Ingersoll appeared again with his
proposed development. Dave Taube appeared with concerns of the Lake Association:
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Concerned no formal plans for pier development, and how many
Drainage and siltation ponds
3. Launch area adjacent to proposed restaurant area (Launching will be solely for
residents.)
Jerry Hulbert questioned what needs the development will have on City recreational services?
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“he Board discussed with Mr. Ingersoll the possibility of including a tennis court in his
lan. Jerry Hulbert moved to recommend to Plan Commission that one tennis court be
included in the condominium development. Ron Stephens seconded. Motion carried.
Minutes, Parks and Recreation Board Meeting, April 11, 1988, page 2.
The Board then discussed with Mr. Ingersoll the possibility of putting in a bike path
along Highway 24 and Park Drive. After much discussion, Ron Stephens moved that a portion
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f park dedication fees be used for paving a bike path along Highway 24 only and that the
.lan Commission contact the State about this as it would be on their property. Tom
Millonzi seconded. Motion carried. Ron Stephens moved to reconunend to Plan Commission
approval of proposed development as amended. Alderman Pat Patterson seconded. Motion
carried.
(Dennis Kucharski left at 8:45 PM.)
Limiting launching of boats at.Idle Isle to number of parking stalls (Norman Frahm)
Mrs. Frahm appeared to request that due to the parking problems on Martin Drive of cars
and car/trailers,.the Board consider limiting the launching.
Richard Manchester moved to go along with Safety Connnittee's reconunendation to limit the
launching of boats on a weekend to number of trailer parking spaces on Idle Isle (18) to
prevent the severe parking problem that has existed in the past on the roads adjacent to
Idle Isle. Ron Stephens seconded. Alderman Pat Patterson moved to table the motion
until May's Board meeting at which time the Board will hold a public hearing, note in
the news media, for more .feedback from entire cormnunity. Jerry Hulbert seconded. Motion
carried.
WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE
Thank you from participant for fee waiver
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past recipient of the Board's special "waiver of fees" sent a letter of thanks for the
ssistance while he was unemployed. He is now working and will be able to continue to pay
for participation of his children in these programs.
Neighbors' concerns regarding Kurth Park,
Mr. Guy Colasacco appeared to discuss possible changes to the hard asphalt areas (basket-
ball/tennis) at Kurth Park and to finish edging the parking area with timbers. Jerry
Hulbert moved to have Pete come up with reconuwndations for changes/utilization of hard
surface play areas at Kurth Park for May meeting. Alderman Pat Patterson seconded. Motion
carried.
Refund request
The person requesting the refund for the "Intro to Modeling" class was sent a letter
regarding appearing at this meeting. After explanation of the situation by Jackie,
Alderman Pat Patterson moved to deny request. Richard Manchester seconded. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS:
Little Muskego Yacht Club's regatta waiver of fees
Alderman Pat Patterson moved that a $60.00 fee for the weekend be assessed or the people
could pay the normal launch fees. A decision should be made by the Yacht Club as to which
option they choose by the June meeting of the Parks and Recreation Board. Richard Manchester
seconded. Motion carried.
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Minutes, Parks and Recreation Board Meeting, April 11, 1988, page 3.
Idle Isle boat launch relocation
m hree neighbors appeared to request the Board consider moving the boat launch to the south-
east side of the island. Their basic concerns are erosion of their shoreline and the noise
caused by the number of boats being launched and loaded. Alderman Pat Patterson moved to
include with the other public hearing that the City adopt an ordinance that would allow
loading of boats at Idle Isle by winch only. Richard Manchester seconded. Motion carried.
Peter reviewed with the Board the history of the launch and the information he has compiled
from his research into moving the launch. He also shared items that the Board should con-
sider if the launching is limited: (1) The department issues 150+ season passes annually
to City residents; (2) Special uses-Waterbugs, Lake Fest, Regatta; (3) Projected revenue
for 1988 launching will be reduced and also if season passes are not sold, revenue will be
reduced. Alderman Pat Patterson moved to not move the location of the boat launch at Idle
Isle. Richard Manchester seconded. Motion carried.
Bike trails
Jerry Hulbert reported that a letter had been sent from the City to Wisconsin Electric
Power Company (WEPCO) indicating the City's interest in pursuing a recreational trail on
their right-of-way. Jerry indicated the director of the Department of Public Works felt
his department could handle the labor of installing the trail and that the Parks Department
would be responsible for the materials. Jerry estimated the cost to be $l.OO/running foot.
The path would be approximately 8 feet wide.
Peter expressed items that the department will have to be responsible for and felt the
Board should consider these in their analysis of this project: patrolling (motor bikes,
horses, snowmobiles), cutting of the grass, garbage collection, droppings from horses
and dogsy
possible request for winter grooming for cross-country skiing, signage, swamp
reas (ground hogs and muskrats) and the amount and kind of brush (samples were shown).
Women's Softball League donation
Peter reported the player benches have arrived for installation. Mentioned that the fee
the Women's Softball League would have been assessed for their 1987 tournament was $400.00,
but the cost of the player benches (their donation in lieu of the assessment) was $500.00.
DEPARTMENT REPORTS:
PARKS
Don Dietzler's special request for field usage/daytime practice
Dennis Kucharski moved to open fields for practice during days as proposed by Peter and
using the present procedures for obtaining permits. Tom Millonzi seconded. Motion carried.
Annual Park Report
Peter distributed copies of the Annual Park Report regarding the overall City budget, park
lands, workers, etc.
Tournament requests
Peter reported that letters were sent to the Women's Softball League and the Mavericks l . egardlng a problem of having all fields,as requested, playable by 8:00 AM if the Mavericks
ranout from their original date. There would be a total of 8 fields that would need to be
prepared. Peter had indicated to them that if they were concerned about this that they
should appear at this meeting. They were not in attendance to address this concern.
Minutes, Parks and Recreation Board Meeting, April 11, 1988, Page 4.
RECREATION
Red Cross cost recovery proposal
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ackie updated the Board on this issue. The state association, WPRA (Wisconsin Park and
&creation Association) has taken a stand that until there is more uniformity from the
National Red Cross that departments utilizing Red Cross programs not pay the cost recovery
fee assessment. -
Rummage sale/department items
Jackie questioned whether the Board had any problems if the excess T-shirts, old basket-
balls/volleyballs, etc. that are of no use by the Department could be sold as "Rummage"
at the summer registration time. Board sees no problem with this.
Summer program
Due to lateness of this meeting, will hold off until May meeting.
NEW BUSINESS, OTHER BUSINESS:
Plan Commission subdivision plats
There were no plans submitted to the Department for Board review.
Pay phone at Idle Isle Park
Keith and Wendy Bennett appeared to request permission to have installed at Idle Isle Park
a coin phone. They have contacted Wisconsin Coin Telephone as the people to provide this
service. The Bennetts would receive all profits from the phone. Jackie had contacted this
0 .ompany and they (Wisconsin Coin) would need a contract with the City indicating permission
to use "X" space and that it be for 4 or 5 years. Wisconsin Coin is responsible for
maintenance of the phone. Alderman Patterson expressed a concern with this company. He
has found in his line of work that when he has wanted to use their phone, they don't always
work. Richard Manchester moved to approve the request and send to Common Council for
approval. Ron Stephens seconded. Motion carried.
Proposed sale of lake access 1119 (end of Silver Drive)
Mr. Tom Harr, adjacent property owner to this lake access, is interested in purchasing the
lot. Mayor Salentine informed staff that this lot, if sold, would require easements back
to the City. Jerry Hulbert moved to recommend the sale of this lot. Richard Manchester
seconded. Ron Stephens moved to defer this issue so the Board members could review the
lot and its impact on the neighborhood. Tom.Millonzi seconded. Motion carried.
Denoon Park improvements (long and short term)
Due to the lateness of the meeting, this issue will be reviewed at the May meeting.
Athletic field usage fees
Members of the Maverick's baseball team appeared to discuss the usage fees as adopted at
the March meeting. This discussion on usage fees will be placed on the May agenda.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, Richard Manchester made a motion to adjourn the meeting.
Seconded by Ron Stephens. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 12:lO AM.
Respectfully submitted,
RICHARD MANCHESTER
sjd/4-20-88
pc: Board Members, Mayor, Aldermen, City Clerk, Parks Supervisor, Recreation Supervisor.