PRB051187minutesMINUTES
PARKS & RECREATION BOARD MEETING, CITY OF MUSKEGO
MONDAY, MAY 11, 1987
The monthly meeting of the Parks and Recreation Board df .the City of Muskego
was called to order at 7:15 PM by Chairperson Bob Rasmussen.
PRESENT: Jerald Hulbert, Richard Manchester, Robert Rasmussen, Ronald Stephens,
Jackie Schweitzer (Recreation Supervisor) and Peter Theis (Parks
Supervisor)
LATE ARRIVALS: Dennis Kucharski, Alderman Pat Patterson
ABSENT: John Schaal
GUESTS: (see attached list)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Richard Manchester moved to approve, as mailed, the minutes of the April 13
Board Meeting. Jerry Hulbert seconded. Motion carried.
Richard Manchester moved to approve, as mailed, the minutes of the Special
Board Meeting on April 29. Ron Stephens seconded. Motion carried.
PERSONAL APPEARANCES
Steve Illing of Muskego Drive appeared before the Board to request that the
boat launch at Idle Isle be relocated. He presented a diagram, along with
petitions, to substantiate his request. One of the chief concerns was the
excessive speed of boats in the channel near the Idle Isle launch area.
Discussion followed. Mr. Illing's request will be placed on the June agenda.
In the meantime, the parks supervisor is to check out the feasibility of
relocating the launch, by reviewing the original plan when the launch was
established at Idle Isle and by providing cost estimates for relocation. A
letter is to be sent to the Police Department to advise the water patrolman
of the excessive speed by boaters in the area.
Karen Kotar representing the LMLPRD (Little Muskego Lake Protection and
Rehabilitation District) presented their request to store materials and
equipment at Idle Isle Park building. Their storage at the building would not
interfere with the vendor's business. Jerry Hulbert moved to allow the LMLPRD
to store materials and equipment at the Idle Isle building providing flammables
would not be stored, and the vendor would have access to their section of the
building. Ron Stephens seconded. Motion carried.
WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE
Emerald Drive Lake Access
A petition was received from the back-lot owners in the Jewel Crest Subdivision
to have the Emerald Drive lake access equipped with a picnic table and pier this
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summer. They also requested that the shoreline be trimmed of tall grasses and
that the sand dumped on the grass be spread and leveled off. Jan Knapp listed
concerns against these requests, such as launching boats from this access,
placing a pier and picnic tables. Alderman Patterson entered a motion to defer
the request regarding location upon further study of all lake accesses and their
need. Jerry Hulbert seconded. Motion carried.
Boat Launching Facilities
It was brought to the Board's attention that there is a hearing in the Legislature
regarding boat launching fees. Representative Wineke's request would prohibit
counties and municipalities from charging fees for the use of public boat
launching facilities; instead the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) must
provide grants to counties and municipalities to be used for the maintenance of
these facilities. Grants would be funded from a new appropriation consisting
of an amount calculated by multiplying the number of motorboats registered in
the previous fiscal year by 50 gallons and multiplying that product by the excise
tax.
Historical Sites at-Parkland Plaza
A letter and maps have been sent requesting the State Historical Society review
and indicate where exactly the potential National Register sites are located
on the land near and on Parkland Plaza. At this time, there is no official
National Register site in Muskego, but there are six potential sites. Sites
are not a problem to an individual, but could be to any agencies utilizing any
type of state, federal funds.
Parkland Plaza Land/Park Dedication Funds
Attorney Molter's response to Mayor Salentine's inquiry on whether there is ample
open space as required by the City ordinance without the 15-acre park was
reviewed by the Board members.
Another letter from Attorney Molter to the Mayor was reviewed in regards to pay-
ments in lieu of land dedication.
The Board had no response to these letters. The Letters were placed in the
correspondence file.
OLD BUSINESS
DandiLion Park
Chairperson Bob Rasmussen explained the status of the situation regarding this
acquisition and then presented a formal proposal requesting Council to implement
the comprehensive plan and acquire the DandiLion Park property with 10-15 acres
for park purposes. After his presentation, the floor was opened for comments
from the public.
Dan Scudder (W17274 Pleasant View Dr.)
Felt the City should consider all avenues to retain as much of the park as possible.
Community has grown and good growth requires investment. Feels this would be
an asset to the City.
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Tom Couture (W12559 Larkspur Rd.)
Spoke in favor of keeping the park as a park/open space. His family was
involved with DandiLion Park back in 1923.
Jann Knapp (S6746 Jewel Crest Dr.)
Objects to keeping DandiLion Park as park land. Because of experience with the
weed cutting operation, knows about the lake accesses. If City can't take-care
of the lake accesses they now have, how can they maintain a park like DandiLion
Park? Mrs. Knapp questioned how the City could guarantee that Muskego people
will be allowed use of this area? Where have the people been for two years
regarding this issue?
Kathy Mueller (S7171 Grove St.)
Served on the DandiLion Park Study Committee of 1983-84. Feels the park should
stay as park due to the historic nature and beauty of the parcel. once gone,
gone forever! Keep that area residential, don't need that kind of commercial
development. Some people may never be able to afford to buy a lot in that area
but could always use a park. People were frustrated after the referendum passed
and the Council turned it down, felt it was a dead issue.
Dan Hegyi (S7460 Park Dr.)
Lives across the side street of DandiLion Park. Also felt the reason people
were not saying anything is that they felt it was a dead issue. Feels it is a
"last opportunity" and would like to see the park retained as park land.
Allen Haase (W18611 Cook Dr.)
Highly supports the Park Board's proposal. Feels Muskego expanded because of
DandiLion Park and it would be a wonderous thing to keep it as a park.
Ben Chamberlain (57784 Castle Glen)
Very much supports some sort of park development. Voted against the library/city
hall addition, but Council approved. Voted in favor of DandiLion Park proposal
and Council turned it down.
Mark Oliver (S7414 Richdorf Dr.)
Supports the effort of the Parks Board in trying to retain for park land. His
family of 6 moved to Muskego for what it has. Would like to stay in Muskego,
but concerned about the development of this property, if commercial. He
questioned how people can say-living next to a park can lower the value of the
property?
Fran Burgeson (W17502 Lake Dr.)
Was always in favor of the park but would like to see a better system for
collecting fees for use of the park. Make allowances for Muskego people's use.
Provide a system for fee collection in initial development. Questioned whether
the City could limit use of the park to Muskego people if federal and state
funds were not involved?
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Alderman Dave Taube (W18687 Kingston Dr.)
Concerned with what can be done to guarantee usage of the facility by Muskego
people. If use City funds, can we maintain control? Board should provide a
less grandiose plan. If primary goal is swimming, should focus on that. Alder-
man Taube stated there are bitter feelings yet from some LMIA members due to the
fact the City residents turned down spending $200,000 toward the $5 million
dredging project. Feel now that LMLA has worked hard to clean up the lake, the
citizens want a part of the lake.
Allen Haase (W18611 Cook Dr.)
Stated he was a memberof the LMLA during that time and he thought as a member
the LMLA wanted it cleaned up for all people.
There being no further comments from the floor, the Parks and Recreation Board
addressed some of the concerns. Ron Stephens moved to send the preliminary
proposal to the Common Council and recommend they defer any action to rezone
or develop DandiLion Park property until they review the proposal. Dennis
Kucharski seconded. Motion carried.
Alderman Patterson moved that Council defer any changes to the City's Compre-
hensive Plan until further discussion with the Parks and Recreation Board,
especially Resolution 86-87. Ron Stephens seconded. Motion carried.
(.Chairperson Rasmussen called a 20 minute recess.)
Comprehensive Plan
Times were set up for the consultant interviews. At 7:00 PM on Wednesday,
May 27, Gerald Emmrich from SEWRPC (Southeastern Wisconsin Regional Planning
Commission), and at 8:00 PM, David Schreiber from Schreiber/Anderson will meet
with the Board. A list of questions Board members have should be formulated and
sent to the office by May 22.
Lake Access Responsibility
Upon discussion of lake access parcels, and what exactly is the Board's
responsibility? They requested that Pete research these parcels and provide
maps and pictures in an update of Resolution 55-69 at the next meeting.
Waterbugs Use of Idle Isle
Jackie reported that the security deposit, the signed agreement, and a copy of
the insurance policy had been received; but most important, the certificate of
insurance listing the City as an additional insured has not been received and
the pier cannot be installed.
Tournament Fees
The question raised was where does the revenue go? Pete reported that the money
gets paid in-to the park fee account (~0100 0043 0796). Dennis Kucharski
requested a copy of the present tournament policy for his review. Ron Stephens
suggested a sub-committee look at this procedure;.until then, use the current
policy. As it relates to the womenâs league tournament, Alderman Patterson moved
to charge the women's league the tournament fees. Seconded by Jerry Hulbert.
Motion carried.
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DEPARTMENT REPORTS
PARKS
Lake Access Parcel Fencing
A neighbor of the lake access parcel t4.requested construction of a fence to
slightly encroach park property in order to protect a vandalized tree. Alderman
Patterson made a motion to deny the request. Seconded by Jerry Hulbert.
Motion carried.
Mill Valley Ball Fields
Council approved the requested amount to renovate Mill Valley 2 but upon further
investigation, the Parks Supervisor realized he should have requested the funds
for Mill Valley 1 also. Another request is being presented to the Finance
Committee as directed in the April minutes to renovate both Mill Valley 1 and
2.
Red Truck
A bid of $175 was accepted for the red truck. The truck has now been sold.
Soccer Field at Schmidt Park
Jackie reported that the "promised" l soccer goals of months ago have not been
installed. Person who is responsible keeps putting it off. Board recommended
Jackie send a letter to Sgt. Jim Budish that the goals should be dropped off
by May 19th at the Parks Garage and the park crew will install. Also that the
Board does not feel he has completed his community hours because of the timeliness
of this project.
Idle Isle Boat Launch
Idle Isle boat launch was closed as directed by the Park Board in the April
meeting for a total of two hours. Jerry Hulbert moved to obtain an opinion on
the legality of the Park Board's action to close the boat launch. Ron Stephens
seconded. Motion carried. The Board directed Pete to contact Attorney Molter
should this be a future concern.
Traveling League Maintenance Fees
Pete reported that two leagues have been over assessed because of their traveling
status; the Puddles league and the Atonement league. They have been advised
and these leagues will be charged for only when they use the fields. These fee
reductions will not increase the other leagues' fees. All leagues will be charged
as directed by the Board according to their usage.
Shelter Building at DandiLion Park
Park Supervisor reported on the specifications of the shelter building at Dandi-
l Lion Park and reviewed the discussion he had with Mr. Masterson and the Mayor.
Dennis Kucharski moved that the Park Board is not interested at this time in
the purchase of this structure. Seconded by Alderman Patterson. Motion carried.
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Idle Isle Signs
A citizen requested signage for directions to Idle Isle be placed on Muskego
Drive and Martin Drive to help people locate the park. Alderman Patterson moved
to deny the request. Seconded by Jerry Hulbert. Motion carried. Sign inside
the park is presently in the shop for repair. Additional signs will increase
the vandalism.
RECREATION
Summer Program Proposals
Jackie presented the following "new" programs for inclusion in the summer program
booklet.
1. ATV Safety Course
2. Middle school age co-ed volleyball program
3. Eighthgradeweight training instructional camp
4. Baton twirling would be back.
5. Community tennis league for men, women, teens and doubles
6. Community square dancing in the park
7. Exceptional co-ed volleyball/social night for persons with disabilities
(teens to young adults)
8. One-day teen outings to Familyland and some place else
The program details were discussed. Richard Manchester moved that the department
continue to pursue activities for people with diabilities even if they don't
meet the goal of being break even. Dennis Kucharski seconded. Motion carried.
Richard Manchester moved to approve the list of new programs as presented. Dennis
Kucharski seconded. Motion carried.
Dance Recital Financial Report
A financial report on the dance recital was filed with the Board. contrary to
expectations, the program lost $152.70. The bill from Greendale High School
was much higher than previously charged. It was the way and time we used the
auditorium this year.
NEW BUSINESS, OTHER BUSINESS
Plan Commission Subdivision Plots
Jerry Hulbert made the motion to evaluate the city planning sequence procedure
and to involve Park Board input prior to approval. Seconded by Dennis Kucharski.
Motion carried.
Park Dedication
Dick Manchester suggested that we take a percentage of the lot valuation rather
than the $200 per lot fee.
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Agenda
Dennis Kucharski recommended there be a time limit on the agenda questions.
It was advised that the Chairperson adhere more closely to the Roberts' Rules
of Order in conducting the meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Dennis Kucharski made a motion to adjourn at 11:40 PM. Seconded by
Jerry Hulbert. Motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Pete Theis for John Schaal, Secretary
JS:PT:sjd
pc: Board Members, Mayor, Aldermen, Clerk, Parks Supervisor, Recreation
Supervisor
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