PRB060887minutesMINUTES
PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING, CITY OF MUSKEGO
MONDAY, JUNE 8, 1987
The monthly meeting of the Parks and Recreation Board of the City of Muskego
was called to order at 7:05 PM by Chairperson Bob Rasmussen.
PRESENT: Jerald Hulbert, Robert Rasmussen, John Schaal, Ronald Stephens,
Jackie Schweitzer (Recreation Supervisor) and Peter Theis (Parks
Supervisor)
ABSENT: Dennis Kucharski, Richard Manchester
LATE ARRIVAL: Alderman Pat Patterson
GUESTS: (see attached list)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Ron Stephens moved to approve, as mailed, the minutes of the May 11, 1987 meeting.
Jerry Hulbert seconded. Motion carried.
Jerry Hulbert moved to approve, as mailed, the minutes of the May 27, 1987 meeting.
John Schaal seconded. Motion carried.
PERSONAL APPEARANCES
Don Diet&x, representing the Puddles league, presented his request concerning
the ball practice permit policy. He requested that on days that out-of-town
teams come to play, he would like a double time slot; the l&-hour time slot is
not long enough. John Schaal made a motion to allow the Puddles team to schedule
back-to-back time slots as long as there is no conflict with another league.
Motion was seconded by Jerry Hulbert. Jerry Hulbert amended the motion to limit
the Puddles to six games for this season. Seconded by Ron Stephens. Amendment
carried. Main motion, as amended, carried.
Jean Zaremba submitted a petition requesting the Board to fix up the Emerald
Drive lake lot for use by the back lot owners, and wanted to know some of the
history of the boat launch that used to be at that lake access. Jerry Hulbert
moved to send a copy of old resolution to Rules, Laws, and Ordinance Committee
to identify the lake lots that would be under the jurisdiction of the Parks
and Recreation Department. Seconded by Ron Stephens. Motion carried. Jean
Zaremba's request was for a picnic table, garbage can, and pier. Jerry Hulbert
moved to provide a table, garbage can and pier. Seconded by Ron Stephens.
Motion carried. Peter to report back to Board at the July meeting regarding the
drainage problem at this lake access.
M.A.A. Personnel
Mr. Udvare had to leave before the Board got to this part of the agenda.
Minutes, Parks and Recreation Board Meeting, June 8, 1987, page 2.
WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE
l M.A.A. Board's response 'CO Parks & Recreation Board decision
Jerry Hulbert moved to respond to Mr. Udvare's letter and that any action to
the letter would be held off until the baseball/softball committee meets next
spring. Seconded by Ron Stephens. Motion carried.
Waiver Requests
John Schaal moved to approve the waiver requests. Seconded by Ron Stephens.
Jerry Hulbert amended the motion to waive 50% of the cast. Ron Stephens
seconded. Amendment passed. Main motion, as amended, carried.
The Board asks that they receive Common Council clarification as to their
opinion on the waiving of fees. Is their intent for no waivers, or do they
care to review all requests?
Refund Requests
None were presented.
OLD BUSINESS
Status of DandiLion Park park
Chairperson Rasmussen presented a letter from City Assessor De Angelis
0 correcting erroneous statements made in the Park Board's proposal for DandiLion
Park at the May 12, 1987 Common Council meeting. The letter was placed on
file.
Legal opinion regarding closing of boat launch on temporary basis
Peter reported the DNR (Department of Natural Resources) would have a problem
if a substantial impact on the public's navigational rights would occur. The
DNR recommended that the City should pursue an ordinance prohibiting motors in
sensitive areas of the lake. The Board felt that this issue should be pursued
by the Lake District.
Relocating boat launch at Idle Isle Park
The City would have to get a permit from DNR. Estimated costs would be from
$6,000 to $8,000. Jerry Hulbert moved to decline the request to move the boat
launch-at the present time. Seconded by Alderman Patterson. Motion carried.
Reasons for denial were the cost factor of $6,000 to $8,000 and if moved, we
would possibly have more accessibility for bigger boats and possibly more
activity.
Review receipts on Idle Isle concession building
Bob and Jackie will review the receipts as submitted by Keith and Wendy Bennett
for work at the concession stand and report back to the Board.
Minutes, Parks and Recreation Board Meeting, June 8, 1987, page 3.
Review the placement of the Waterbugs pier at Idle Isle Park
A letter from Jerry Warda, Little Muskego Lake Waterpatrolman, to Lt. Daley
was reviewed regarding his concerns with the current placement of the Waterbug
Ski Club's pier. After discussion, John Schaal moved to leave the pier at
the present site. Jerry Hulbert seconded. Motion carried. To be reviewed
in February for the Waterbug's 1988 use. The reasons for leaving as is for this
year are the slow no-wake zones are important and should be left there; could
be a problem with kids swimming near and under the pier, the pier has been in
this location for years with no problems; the pier is already in place and
would be difficult to move and moving the pier could cause problems with the
aeration program.
Discuss Comprehensive Plan interviews and recommend to Finance Committee
approval to expend funds to update
Those Board members that were present at the interviews with SEWPRC (Southeastern
Wisconsin Regional Planning Commission) representative Gerald Emmrich and
Schreiber/Anderson Associates representative Dave Schreiber reviewed the proposals.
It was felt SEWRPC's proposal was more analysis, nuts and bolts; whereas,
Schreiber/Anderson is more architectural design (specific projects within a
master plan).
Jackie reported that Mr. Emmrich had contacted the office to withdraw SEhXPC
from consideration of the proposal. He wasn't aware of the fact that the
Board would be talking with a private consulting firm. There is a problem with
public (SEWRPC) vs. private firms. To avoid any future problems, they formally
withdrew.
Tentative costs figures were: SEWRPC ($4,500-$5,000); Schreiber/Anderson
($10,000-$15,000).
Jerry Hulbert moved to not proceed at this time with either of the two firms
because of the overall costs and the budget constraints at this time; we will
proceed to do it in-house. Seconded by Alderman Patterson. Motion carried.
Correspondence regarding,historical sites
Jackie presented the information from the State Historical Preservation Society
regarding existing historical landmarks on the Parkland Plaza land. There are
no official national register sites and possibly one at the very southern area
of the land, but no official site.
DEPARTMENT REPORTS
Parks
Status of soccer goals at Schmidt Park
The soccer goals went in after the last Board meeting. A neighbor called and
asked about the goals. Pete explained there would be no lights or leagues
at this time on the field. A place for the neighborhood kids to play.
Minutes, Parks and Recreation Board Meeting, June 8, 1987, page 4.
Idle Isle boat launch history update
Peter presented a brief history as to Idle Isle Park and the boat launch
area.
Status of well at Kurth Park
A safe reading for the well at Kurth was received May 22, 1987. There seems
to be a problem because each year we get an unsafe reading.
Footpath problems at Denoon Park
Peter stated that there are some water problems on the paths at Denoon and some
of the paths are on personal property (eastern side). John Schaal moved to
have Peter relocate the paths off of the personal property and try to drain
the water better so it doesn't erode the existing path. Seconded by Alderman
Patterson. Motion carried.
Outlot at Marlan Meadows subdivision
Alderman Patterson moved to deny the request .&hat the city clean Rut the outlot at
Marlan Meadows, but the residents may do their own clean up. Jerry Hulbert
seconded. Motion carried.
Recreation
Program registration update
At this time, registration is going really good. Roughly $13,637.75 has been
collected.
Summer employees
Jackie will mail a list of summer employees to the Board members.
NEW BUSINESS, OTHER BUSINESS
Evaluate process which plans are received from Plan Commission
Once the Park Board receives plats from Plan Commission, it is sometimes too
late to make any changes. Jerry Hulbert moved that the Park Board receive
preliminary plats earlier so they would have the ability to compare to compre-
hensive parks master plan and make any recommendations. Ron Stephens seconded.
Motion carried.
Park Dedication fees--evaluate on basis of % of value versus straight fee
Alderman Patterson moved to leave fee structure as is. Seconded by John Schaal.
Motion carried. The Board would like to look at the average price of lots in
1978 as compared to average price of lots in 1987. To be reviewed at next
meeting.
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Minutes, Parks and Recreation Board Meeting, June 8, 1987, page 5.
Circulation of fliers for aeration system in Little Muskego Lake by park
attendants
John Schaal moved to allow park attendants to pass out fliers on weekends and
holidays to people entering the park explaining where the aerators are located;
also to allow LMLA (Little Muskego Lake Association) to put up signs by the
boat launch about the aeration, but the signs must first be app&ved by' Peter.
Seconded by Jerry Hulbert. Motion carried.
Peter to check with police department if there is any problem with the
verbiage in the fliers.
Review of retention ponds at Denoon Park
Peter stated that the sediment trap ponds are becoming a problem because the
water is not moving; it is becoming very stagnant. Alderman Patterson deferred
to the next meeting until Peter has time to check out the possibility of
corrective action and whose problem it is. Seconded by John Schaal. Motion
carried.
ADJOURNMENT
John Schaal moved to adjourn the meeting at 10:00 PM. Jerry Hulbert seconded.
Motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
John Schaal, Secretary
Parks & Recreation Board
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PC: Board Members, Mayor, Aldermen, City Clerk, Parks Supervisor, Recreation
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