PCM19931102CITY OF MUSKEGO
PLAN COMMISSION
MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 2, 1993
Mayor David DeAngelis called the meeting to order at 7:03 p.m.
PRESENT: Chairman David DeAngelis, Ald. Taube, Commissioners ,
Honl, Hulbert, Raimann, Smith (arriving at 8:45 p.m.) and
Director Chuck Dykstra.
ABSENT: None
MINUTES: Commissioner Honl made a motion to approve the Minutes
Upon a voice vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
of the October 19, 1993 Meeting. Commissioner Raimann seconded.
OLD BUSINESS:
of an existing Conditional Use Grant to Allow for the Display,
with the existing 10,526 square foot building to be used in
Service and Sales of Snowmobiles, Personal Watercraft, and Boats
conjunction with same located at S83 W20411 Janesville Road by
Walter Bohrer, Jr. and Dale Kreil. Commissioner Hulbert made a
motion to remove Resolution #P.C. 199-93 from the Table to
original Resolution, Commissioner Honl seconded. Upon a voice
a motion to amend the Resolution with a complete revision of the
vote, the motion to amend Resolution #P.C. 199-93 passed
unanimously. Ms. Sharon Burnett, representative for Mr.
Kreil, explained that Mr. Kreil was unable to attend because
he is out of town on business. Ms. Burnett further explained
that Mr. Kreil would like to amend his submittal and run the
entire business out of the east building with storage in the west
building. She also stated that Mr. Kreil's business would be
the only business at this location. Ms. Burnett stated that Mr.
Kreil did not have any other concerns with the proposal or the
resolution.
wall signs. Ms. Burnett indicated that in order to receive
Commissioner Hulbert questioned if it is necessary to have five
certain pricing and discounting from the franchises they must have
the appropriate signage. Chairman De Angelis asked if Director
Dykstra felt that there would be any problem with the amount of
signage. He indicated that the only area that may exceed the
requirements is the proposed three 3' x 5'. Director Dykstra
would not be a problem. Commissioner Hulbert still feels that the
further stated that if one sign is moved to another wall there
proposed signage is excessive. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that
they have a large amount of window space and could hang the signs
from the inside and the signs would be seen outside. Commissioner
Chairman De Angelis asked if Mr. Kreil will be remove the
RESOLUTION tP.C.199-93 -- Approval of Request for expansion
reconsider, Commissioner Honl seconded. Commissioner Hulbert made
Hulbert questioned if there would be any free standing signage.
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existing freestanding sign. Ms. Burnett was unsure if Mr.
Kreil would like to use to the existing free standing sign.
Commissioner Hulbert would like to see the signage remain the same
as at your current location.
Commissioner Hulbert stated that the Conditional Use Grant should
be cleaned up prior to the Plan Commission granting any additional
would state that all prior uses allowed under the Conditional Use
uses. Chairman De Angelis suggested a possible amendment that
Grant and all other uses under the Building, Site and Operation
Plan will cease to exist upon the adoption of this proposed use.
Chairman De Angelis asked if the display area will be graveled or
hard surfaced. Ms. Burnett indicated that he will eventually
want a hard surfaced however, with the installation of the
asphalting and the fence he will not be financially able to put in
a hard surface in the outside display area. Chairman De Angelis
is very concerned with the display of boats on a grassy area. He
to have the boats parked on a grassy surface rather than a hard
indicated that he has been checking other facilities and none seem
surfaced. Commissioner Honl feels that a gravel base will be
sufficient for the display of boats and that the petitioner should
be allowed 1 years time to install the gravel area. Chairman De
Angelis disagreed stating that he felt the area should be graveled
Commissioner Hulbert made a motion amend by adding a third BE IT immediately with the allowance of 1 year for the hard surface.
FURTHER RESOLVED to read: BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That the
display area for the boats will be graveled prior to any display
of boats is allowed. Commissioner Raimann seconded. Upon a roll
call vote, the amendment passed 3-1-1 with Commissioner Honl
voting nay and Ald. Taube abstaining.
Chairman De Angelis questioned if the outside maintenance of boats
the boat has to be in the cradle, the boat is to big to be lifted
is necessary. Ms. Burnett explained that it is necessary when
out and that is why they plan to install a boat lift. Ms.
Burnett further explained that there would need to be proper
ventilation installed in order to work on the boats inside. She
indicated that the boat lift will be permanently mounted in cement
and that they will have to work in this area.
Chairman DeAngelis indicated that 20 snowmobiles will be displayed
Ms. Burnett indicated that these areas will be hard surfaced
outside and questioned whether these areas will be hard surfaced.
with recycled asphalt.
Commissioner Hulbert asked where the boats will be stored when the
would be between the two buildings or behind the west building.
motors are being repaired. Ms. Burnett indicated that the boats
Commissioner Hulbert feels more comfortable with the boats being
west building.
stored in the outside boat storage area and in the rear of the
Chairman De Angelis asked if the lights will be pointed down.
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Chairman De Angelis questioned where the dumpster would be
located. Ald. Taube indicated that a dumpster could be located on
building. He further stated that this area is currently screened
the corner of the dock on the southeast corner of the west
with rail road ties.
Chairman De Angelis asked Director Dykstra if he had anything
further that needs to be amended or added. Director Dykstra
indicated that in the 6th whereas this should be amended.
suggested removing ... with 5000 sq ft.-----till in the east
building ... This does not change the amount of parking
requirements it will still be 38 parking spaces.
Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to amend as follows:
under THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, #4 to read: .... area to southwest
end of west building will be screened.
adding a #8 to read: 8. All exterior lighting will be directed
downward. .
adding a #9 to read: 9. The dumpster will be located in front
of the loading dock at the southeast corner of the west building
and will be adequately screened.
adding a #10 to read: 10. There will be a total of five (5)
mounted wall signs between the two buildings and that the signs
will not be greater than the allowable 5% of the wall space.
by adding a second BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED to read: BE IT FURTHER
RESOLVED, That all previous building, site and operation plans and
previous conditional uses be removed from the conditional use
grant prior to the recording of the of the Conditional Use
Grant.
by deleting verbage in the 5th WHEREAS changing it to read as
follows: .... the existing 10,526 square foot building (east
building) and repairs .....
by deleting verbage in the 6th WHEREAS changing it to read as
which will require 38 parking spaces for these buildings, and
follows: .... area of 6650 square feet between the two building
Commissioner Honl seconded. Upon no further discussion, Chairman
De Angelis called for a roll call vote. Upon a roll call vote,
the third amendment to Resolution #P.C. 199-93 passed
unanimously 4-0-1 with Ald. Taube abstaining. Upon a roll call,
thrice amended Resolution #P.C. 199-93 passed unanimously 4-0-1
with Ald. Taube abstaining.
RESOLUTION XP.C.202-93 -- Disapproval of Building, Site and
Operation Plan by Enercon Builders Inc. for Woodview Terrace
Apartments located in the NW 1/4 of Section 10. (Janesville Road
and Bay Lane). Chairman DeAngelis stated that this proposal has
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been at Public Works and that the drainage concerns have been
addressed. The property will drain to the east. Mr. Potrykus,
petitioner's engineer, indicated the importance of the City
completing the study of the Bay Lane extension prior to the
submittal of the Building, Site and Operation Plan for the six (6)
petitioners will need additional brick to meet the requirements of
family for this location. Chairman De Angelis indicated that the
the City of Muskego. Commissioner Hulbert asked if it would be
inappropriate to brick the south side of the building even though
it is the back because it faces Janesville Road. The owner is
to the brick coverage as per the attached exhibit dated 11-2-93 on
agreeable to brick the entire building. The commissioner agreed
file at the City of Muskego. Commissioner Hulbert is concerned
with the color of the horizontal siding and would prefer that the
color would not be white but similar to the building pictured from
the City of Oak Creek (tan color).
Chairman De Angelis indicated that the County is allowing one (1)
that the further this access point will be from the proposed Bay
35' access point for this property. Chairman De Angelis feels
Lane extension will be the better. The petitioners would like to
the residential property. Commissioner Hulbert suggested that
see the access point to be 17'.5" on the business and 17'.5" on
when Bay Lane is extended that the multi family could have access
off of the extension the the business would have the access solely
for its use. After further discussion, Commissioner Honl made a
motion to amend by adding a BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That the
proposed hard surfaced driveway that will jog around the existing
house will be straightened out and the house will be removed upon
construction of the 6 family or any construction on the B-4
property. Ald. Taube seconded. Upon a roll call vote,
amendment passed 5-1 with Commissioner Honl voting nay.
Disapproval in the title and in the NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED
Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to amend as follows: Change
be November 2, 1993 instead of October 6, 1993 and to add a
to Approval, change the date in NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED to
second BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, to read: BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED,
That Decel and Accel lanes will be required for the 35' access on
Janesville Road; that at the time of submittal of the Building,
Site and Operation Plan for the six (6) family the site plan will
show the access to the multi family on the proposed Bay Lane
extension and upon acceptance of the Building, Site and Operation
Plan for the six (6) family unit the dedication will be given for
the proposed Bay Lane extension. Upon a roll call vote, the
amendment passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote, twice
amended Resolution #P.C. 202-93 passed unanimously.
CONSENT AGENDA:
Certified Survey Map by Quality Craft Homes, Inc. located in NE
RESOLUTION #P.C.203-93 -- Approval of Extraterritorial
Norway. Commissioner Honl made a motion to adopt, Commissioner
1/4 of Section 17 and the NW 1/4 of Section 18, in the Town of
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Smith seconded. No one wanted them considered individually. Upon
a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 204-93 passed unanimously.
RESOLUTION IP.C.204-93 -- Approval of Non-Illuminated
Permanent Free Standing Sign for St. Paul's Lutheran School &
Pre-School located at S66 W14325 Janesville Road. Commissioner
wanted them considered individually. Upon a roll call vote,
Honl made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Smith seconded. No one
Resolution #P.C. 204-93 passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS:
RESOLUTION PP.C.206-93 -- Disapproval/Approval of Expansion
of Conditional Use Grant and amended Building, Site and Operation
Plan to Allow an Increase in the Number of Used Automobiles at
Ronnie's Mobile, S79 W17237 Janesville Road. The Commissioners
decided that they would like discussion prior to the motion to
adopt the resolution onto the floor. Commissioner Raimann is
concerned with parking vehicles on the grass. Chairman De Angelis
indicated that the City does not allow the display of vehicles on
a grassy area. Commissioner Honl is unsure whether he would want
that many vehicles on that location. Ald. Taube felt that they
previously approved a gas station to sell a few used vehicles
instead of a used car lot to sell petroleum. It is too much for
this location. Commissioner Honl does not feel that he could vote
petition that was given him from the petitioner that had
for more than 3 cars period. Chairman De Angelis read a signed
signatures from the owners of the Banchok Cafe, Parthenon Gyros,
and the Muskego Sport Shack.
Ald. Taube feels that even if the original amount is kept the
same, we must make a restriction as to how many vehicles will be
serviced also. Commissioner Hulbert would like to see the
character of the neighborhood remain as it is. The grassy area is
nice to see. Commissioner Hulbert is fine with 3 vehicles, but
be for sale at one time. Ald. Taube asked that there be a
not additional. The commissioners agreed that only 3 cars should
condition be placed that only a certain amount of vehicles be
allowed to be at this location for maintenance. Commissioner
Smith indicated that this will be reviewed in February and it
could be addressed at that time. Ms. Rea indicated that three
vehicles are just not enough to make a business run. Ms. Rea
asked if the area could be paved instead of the grass and if the
commissioners would then be receptive. The commissioners agreed
that they are not agreeable to 40 vehicles for sale at this
location. Ald. Taube made a motion adopt as a disapproval,
Comieeioner Honl seconded. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution
#P.C. 206-93 passed unanimously as a disapproval.
the Rezoning from RS-2 to B-4 and RS-2 to RSA in the SE 1/4 of
RESOLUTION XP.C.207-93 -- Recommendation of Disapproval of
Commissioner Smith made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Hulbert
Section 8 and the SW 1/4 of Section 9 by Metropolitan Engineering.
seconded. Mr. Potrykus indicated that at this intersection the
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would want single family in between all of the business zoning.
land is currently zoned business. He did not think that the City
Mr. Potrykus indicated that he was a member of the Comprehensive
Plan Committee and they were upset with how the City in general
handled the Lake Forest Commercial. Chairman De Angelis indicated
that we should possibly looking at duplex lots on this entire
area. Mr. Potrykus indicated that it would make sense for this
property to be business along Janesville Road. Mr. Potrykus
indicated that this is a location for local businessmen, whereas
the Lake Forest Commercial Development is not planning on any
business other than national chains. Chairman De Angelis
this area and he is not inclined to rezone it to the RSA he would
indicated that a B-2 Zoning District would be better suited to
petitioner explained that he felt that the multi family would be a
not be against a duplex lot under the density of the RS-2. The
better buffer to back up to the business. Director Dykstra
indicated the permitted uses by right in the B-2 Zoning District.
The petitioner feels that he would be willing to have B-2 Zoning
District instead of the requested B-4 Zoning District.
Chairman De Angelis asked why the petitioner would be rezoning
some of the existing Certified Survey Map. Mr. Potrykus indicated
be removing land from the rear and then adding it to the side.
that the existing house has a side entry garage and so they will
Commissioner Hulbert is not happy with the duplex lots. Ald.
Taube would rather have the RS-2 Zoning District if Duplex lots
will be allowed. Commissioner Raimann doesn't have a problem with
duplex lots. Chairman De Angelis indicated that with the RS-2
Zoning District only 3 units would be allowed possibly one three
family. If RS-3 Zoning District then it would be 2 duplexes and 1
single family.
Chairman De Angelis asked if the commissioners are receptive to
were receptive. Commissioner Hulbert is concerned with the
RS-3 allowing 2 duplexes. Commissioners Raimann, Smith and Honl
duplexes coming in by the single family. Ald. Taube would prefer
to have RS-2 Zoning District.
Chairman De Angelis and Commissioner Hulbert agree with B-2 Zoning
District. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 207-93 passed
unanimously.
regarding Kurth Park rezoning to add additional lands located in
the NE 1/4 of Section 11. Commissioner Honl made a motion to
adopt, Ald. Taube seconded. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution
#P.C. 205-93 passed unanimously.
RESOLUTION XP.C.205-93 -- Recommendation of Plan Commission
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS
Commissioner Hulbert indicated that the Sign Committee will have
intent and purposes.
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ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Honl made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 10:15
p.m. Commissioner Smith seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion
to adjourn passed unanimously.
R pectfully submitted,