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PCM19931005CIm OF MUSKEGO PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON OCTOBER 5, 1993 Mayor David DeAngelis called the meeting to order at 7:OO p.m. PRESENT: Chairman David DeAngelis, Ald. Taube, Commissioners Smith, Honl, Hulbert, and Director Chuck Dykstra. ABSENT: Commissioner Damaske and Commissioner Raimann (excused) MINUTES: Ald. Taube made a motion to approve the Minutes of the September 21, 1993 Meeting. Commissioner Smith seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. OLD BUSINESS: RESOLUTION #P.C.151-93 -- Approval of Amendment to the Comprehensive Land Use Plan, Map 8 "Recommended Improvements For Year 2010 City of Muskego Arterial Street and Highway System Plan". (Section 17:5.02 (2) A. 1.) Deferred from 09/21/93 meeting. Chairman DeAngelis explained that the City Engineer's will have the corrections on the map by October 11, 1993. He suggested a deferral until the October 19, 1993 meeting. Upon voice vote, the motion to defer Resolution #P.C. 151-93 Commissioners Honl made a motion to defer, Ald. Taube seconded. passed unanimously. CONSENT AGENDA: RESOLUTION XP.C.189-93 -- Approval of Extraterritorial Final Plat by American Surveying Co., Inc. for Waubeesee Lake Park Estates located in the NE 1/4 of Section 18, Town of Norway. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Smith seconded. Upon a roll vote, Resolution #P.C. 189-93 passed unanimously. RESOLUTION tP.C.190-93 -- Approval of Extraterritorial Preliminary Plat by B.W. Surveying for Viking Manor located in the SE 1/4 of Section 8, Town of Norway. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Smith seconded. Upon a roll vote, Resolution #P.C. 189-93 passed unanimously. NEW BUSINESS: RESOLUTION #P.C.191-93 -- Approval of Sketch for a Two Lot Land Division for John & Bonnie Dominski located in the NE 1/4 of Section 1. (Corner of Janesville Road and Kipling Drive) Commissioner Honl made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Smith seconded. Commissioner Honl asked if permission was necessary from the County regarding access for Lot #1 to have access onto there is a driveway on Lot #1 with access onto Janesville Road. Janesville Road. Mrs. Bonnie Dominski explained that currently Pg. 2 Plan Commission Minutes 10/05/93 Ald. Taube asked if Lot #2 will have access from Kipling Drive. Chairman DeAngelis questioned if the property to the east of Lot explained that in the City of Muskego driveways must be atleast #1 and Lot #1 have a shared driveway. Chairman DeAngelis driveways. Ald. Taube explained that it is necessary for the 3' from the lot line, therefore there would be 6' between any two petitioner to establish with the County whether Lot #1 still has access onto Janesville Road. Chairman DeAngelis was concerned whether Lot #1 and the property to the east were a common entrance on Janesville Road. Mrs. Dominski explained that they are two separate access points on Janesville Road. Ald. Taube asked the petitioners to verify with the County, if it is one access or two separate access points. He further explained that if the County requires it to be a shared driveway then a variance would be required from the Board of Appeals. Mr. Dominski indicated that his driveway was first driveway and the other one was added. Chairman DeAngelis and Director Dykstra explained that it is still necessary for the petitioners to discuss this with the County Hulbert made a motion to amend by changing the THEREFORE BE IT regardless of which driveway was there first. Commissioner Dominski subject to clarification from the County regarding the RESOLVED, to read as follows: .... Section 1 by John & Bonnie access points for the proposed Lot #1 and the property to the east of this proposed land division. Ald. Taube seconded. There was passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote, amended Resolution no further discussion. Upon a voice vote, the motion to amend #P.C. 191-93 passed unanimously. RESOLUTION tP.C.192-93 -- Approval of Second Garage Structure for Darryl Skinner located at 571 W13493 Woods Road. Ald. Taube made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Smith seconded. Ald. Taube asked if roof on the proposed second garage will match the existing roof on the house. Mr. Skinner explained that the roof would also be a gable roof the same as the roof on the house. He also stated that the siding and the color of the siding will match as close as possible to the house. Chairman asked if Mr. Skinner would be running a business out of this garage. Mr. Skinner indicated that he will not be. He needs inside storage for his boat and garden equipment. Mr. Skinner also indicated that it will not have a driveway to the structure. Mr. Skinner stated that the roof height will be 12'6" roof height. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 192-93 passed unanimously. RESOLUTION tP.C.193-93 -- Approval of Sketch for Land Division for the City of Muskego for a 2.46 Acre Lot in the SW 1/4 of Section 16 in the Muskego Industrial Park Addition #l. Commissioner Smith made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Honl seconded. Ald. Taube asked if this division is for Merit Asphalt property. Chairman DeAngelis explained that it was and he further explained that after easements and floodplain are addressed there is an excess of an acre that is buildable. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 193-93 passed unanimously. Pg. 3 Plan Commission Minutes 10/05/93 RESOLUTION YP.C.194-93 -- Approval of Certified Survey Map the SW 1/4 of Section 16 in the Muskego Industrial Park Addition for Land Division for the City of Muskego for a 2.46 Acre Lot in #l. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to adopt, Ald. Taube seconded. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 194-93 passed unanimously MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS A-1 Storage, Discussion regarding the original Building, Site Mr. Jim Hayden explained that the previous owners never informed and Operation Plan and clarification. them of the requirement for the fencing. He would like clarification of exactly what has to be done. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that the fencing was shown on the approved Building, Site and Operation Plan along with the asphalting and landscaping that has yet to be finished. These items need to be finished. Mr. Hayden asked if the Plan Commissioners would be receptive to outside parking along the rear of the building of boats, trailers, and cars, etc. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that the Building, stated that in the 25' to the rear of the property they would like Site and Operation Plan would have to be amended. Mr. Hayden to have outside storage. Mr. Hayden also would like outside storage along the building on both the east and west side. driveway and turning space. Mr. Hayden explained on the rear Chairman DeAngelis is concerned whether there would be an adequate storage facilities don't require a turn just unloading. Mr. 0 Hayden indicated it would be angle parking eliminating the need to turn. Mr. Hayden explained that there is only $3,500 escrowed for landscaping and asphalt and that the bid for fencing alone was $3,500. The amount escrowed is not enough to do the parking would make the asphalting, landscaping and fencing asphalt, landscape and fence in this property. The extra outside feasible. Commissioner Hulbert stated that the Commissioner will be able to submit a plan that the Plan Commissioners will be should give Mr. Hayden some type of guidance this evening, so he receptive to. Ald. Taube is concerned with any outside storage that would be higher than the 6' fence and be visible to the other properties in the Industrial Park. He indicated the need for a higher fence. Mr. Hayden stated that he would be willing to put a restriction on the height of any outside storage/parking. Director Dysktra informed the Commission that the Deed Restrictions of the Industrial Park must be followed which stated behind the building setback line from the street and must be that "All material or products stored outside buildings must be screened from view from the street with solid fencing or screening approved by the Planning Commission. All trash must be enclosed by a fence of solid material such as will provide a suitable visual screen. Minimum height of such fence shall be six feet. Fence must be kept painted or have such other finish as is generally accepted for good appearance. Wire fence is not acceptable for this purpose." and in the Zoning Ordinanceit consent of property owners. Chairman DeAngelis stated that any of indicates that any fence in excess of 6' will require written Pg. 4 Plan Commission Minutes 10/05/93 the outside storage must be behind the front setback of the building. Commissioner Hulbert & Smith not in favor of outside storage. Chairman DeAngelis is still unclear on how the outside storage will look and he is concerned that there will not be damage to personal property. Mr. Hayden indicated that the enough room for vehicles to maneuver, therefore it will result in Mr. Hayden indicated that 25' asphalted would be better, however asphalt company felt that there would be sufficient space. they will do the required 10' of asphalt if that is what the Plan Commission requires. Mr. Hayden indicated that the areas in question have to be graded and add stone prior to asphalting. Mr. Hayden indicated that he is sincere in his attempt to complete the items required on the Building, Site and Operation Plan. He has talked with Mr. Loughney and with the Fire Chief in the past two months regarding the asphalting and the drainage of the property. He asked the current status of the check. Director Dykstra indicated that he is unsure of the status, but he assured Mr. Hayden he would check on the status. Chairman DeAngelis asked if any Commissioners had further direction for the petitioners. Commissioner Hulbert would like the original plan Hayden asked if he goes the 8' will he then have to add the 2' followed. Mr. Hayden is still concerned with the fencing. Mr. to the adjoining property's existing 6' fence. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that he would have to have approval from the owner of the fence in order to do that. The Commissioners had no further direction. Parthanon Gyros Express, Discussion on amendments to Building, Site and Operation Plan. Mr. Jifas explained that pursuing the possibility of purchasing the Sport Shack property in order to expand the restaurant and for additional parking. Chairman DeAngelis asked if all. the items that were in question have been addressed. Mr. Jifas stated that the rear of the building the parking is angled instead of straight, the drive thru has been removed, the grease container is further from the building, walk in cooler and the trash area is also in a new location as shown on the revised plan. Mr. Jifas explained that he is still waiting for the final plans of the addition before he submits them for the amendment to his Building, Site and Operation Plan. Chairman DeAngelis is concerned with parking spots of 10,ll and 12. Mr. Jifas is thing about removing 12 as a handicapped eliminated then 10 and 11 could be parallel to the building space because he only is required to have one. If 12 is instead of at an angle. Mr. Jifas indicated that he would do this weather because of the pitch of the asphalt. Commissioner Hulbert as long this doesn't have a problem with ice and water in bad suggested looking at closing one of the access points on Janesville Road if he acquires the Sports Shack property. Mr. Jifas agreed that if he acquires the Sports Shack property he will Janesville Road and that he is not looking for the additional still when finished with the addition have two access points onto Jifas stated that he wants a two or three lane wide exit/entrance signage that is currently permitted for the Sports Shack. Mr. onto Janesville Road. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that 45' wide Pg. 5 Plan Commission Minutes 10/05/93 exit/entrance would probably be sufficient. Mr. Jifas indicted that there are ways to make it work, however he has no control parking will be where the Sports Shack is currently. Chairman over whether people follow them or not. After the addition, the DeAngelis indicated that the road reservation will have to be also addressed at the time of the amended Building, Site and Operation Plan. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that he would probably have to give approximately 27' of road dedication. Chairman DeAngelis highway. Chairman DeAngelis asked if any Commissioners had any indicated that if it was a 4 lane then it would be 30' from the one was opposed with the exception of parking spaces 10, 11 and further questions regarding the changes Mr. Jifas has made. No and the flashing arrows. Mr. Jifas asked if Commissioner Hulbert 12. Commissioner Hulbert is concerned with the base of the sign would still be opposed if the arrows were in constant illumination. Ald. Taube asked if the fence around the facility keeps light pollution from vehicles to a minimum. Mr. Jifas beer and alcohol signs that may be placed in the window facing the indicated that it did. Commissioner Hulbert is concerned with any school after the addition. Mr. Jifas also agreed that it wasn't necessary to have any beer or alcohol signs on that side. Mr. Jifas indicated that he will not do anything with Michi Drive have his business empty onto it. Mr. Jifas explained that he will exit/entrance. It is a residential street and would prefer not to be coming back in 4-6 weeks with the submittal of the amended Building, Site and Operation Plan for the addition. Mr. Jifas was there is currently any restriction on the time his business is concerned with the hours of operation. He questioned whether open. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that this is something he submits with his amended Building, Site and Operation Plan and that currently the City does not have a set restriction other than following what is approved by the Plan Commission. Greg Pasky, Discussion regarding his Conditional Use Grant. Chairman DeAngelis explained that there hasn't been any communication received at this time from the County, therefore we notified Mr. Pasky that this item will not be discussed and that Miscellaneous Business when a reply is received from the County it was not necessary for him to appear. This will be placed under and then Mr. Pasky will be present. Plan and Conditional Use Permit. Mr. Bohrer explained that Mr. Frenz would be representing himself and Mr. Maslar in the future. Mr. Bohrer stated that to asphalt the entire area is not Mr. Frenz indicated that the used car license would not be feasible at one time. It would be easier to do it piece meal. needed. They would like to continue on the existing gravel. Chairman DeAngelis indicated the need for outside screening. Chairman DeAngelis stated that the paving is a standard should also be reviewed. Director Dykstra found in the file a requirement. Ald. Taube felt that the drainage of the property asphalted. Therefore, this is not a new request. Mr. Bohrer Resolution from 1976 that required the parking area to be Walter Bohrer, Jr., Discussion on Building, Site and Operation Pg. 6 Plan Commission Minutes 10/05/93 explained that it is not financially feasible. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that a perfect example is the 1976 Resolution requesting the asphalting of why the Plan Commission should not approve the plans prior to the paving. Unless a bond is posted. Mr. Frenz asked if the amount of vehicles is reduced to 25 if the Plan Commission would be receptive to less asphalting. If you can show that 25 cars spaces will be adequate. Chairman DeAngelis will be a request for pavement. Ald. Taube asked if this would indicated that with Mr. Kriel's request for an amendment there would have to request the use from the Plan Commission. Director ever go back to an auction facility. Mr. Bohrer explained that he Dykstra stated that any outside storage must be fenced and Conditional Use Grant needs to be studied and any uses that are screened. Commissioner Hulbert feels that the existing not in use removed. Mr. Bohrer is concerned because he purchased this property as an investment and in removing any uses that DeAngelis advised Mr. Bohrer to submit an amended Building, Site aren't being used he it may cause him undue hardship. Chairman and Operation Plan for the parking and screening. He further advised that Mr. Kriel's request for expansion of the Conditional Use Grant will be on October 19, 1993 and advised that Mr. Bohrer may also want to submit his plans for the this portion plans is Friday, October 8, 1993. of the property on the same evening. The deadline for submitted Chairman DeAngelis explained that the Plan Commission will be in the basement in the Muskego Room if the proposed floor plans are approved. Chairman DeAngelis informed the Commissioners that Commissioner Damaske handed in his resignation from the Plan Commission. Chairman DeAngelis was sorry to hear that. Commissioner Hulbert asked the status of the new planner. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that interviewing will start on October 13 and will hopefully have a new Plan Director by mid November. ADJOURNMENT Commissioner Honl made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 9:00 p.m. Commissioner Smith seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion to adjourn passed unanimously. pectfully submitted, 41- Recording Secrdy 2 PLAN COMMISSION CITY OF MUSKEGO MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON OCTOBER 5, 1993 Mayor David DeAngelis called the meeting to order at 7:OO p.m. PRESENT: Chairman David DeAngelis, Ald. Taube, Commissioners Smith, Honl, Hulbert, . and Director Chuck Dykstra. ABSENT: Commissioner Damaske and Commissioner Raimann (excused) MINUTES: Ald. Taube made a motion to approve the Minutes of the September 21, 1993 Meeting. Commissioner Smith seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. OLD BUSINESS : RESOLUTION tP.C.151-93 -- Approval of Amendment to the Comprehensive Land Use Plan, Map 8 “Recommended Improvements For Year 2010 City of Muskego Arterial Street and Highway System meeting. Chairman DeAngelis explained that the City Engineer‘s Plan”. (Section 17:5.02 (2) A. 1.) Deferred from 09/21/93 will have the corrections on the map by October 11, 1993. He suggested a deferral until the October 19, 1993 meeting. Commissioners Honl made a motion to defer, Ald’. Taube seconded. Upon voice vote, the motion to defer Resolution #P.C. 151-93 passed unanimously. CONSENT AGENDA: RESOLUTION tP.C.189-93 -- Approval of Extraterritorial Final Plat bv American Survevina Co., Inc. for Waubeesee Lake Park Estates located in the NE 1/4 of Section 18, Town of Norway. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Smith seconded. Upon a roll vote, Resolution #P.C. 189-93 passed unanimously. ” RESOLUTION tP.C.190-93 -- Approval of Extraterritorial Preliminary Plat by B.W. Surveying for Viking Manor located in made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Smith seconded. Upon a roll the SE 1/4 of Section 8, Town of Norway. Commissioner Hulbert vote, Resolution #P.C. 189-93 passed unanimously. NEW BUSINESS: RESOLUTION fP.C.191-93 -- Approval of Sketch for a Two Lot Land Division for John .S Bonnie Dominski located in the NE 1/4 of Section 1. (Corner of Janesville Road and Kipling Drive) Commissioner Honl made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Smith seconded. Commissioner Honl asked if permission was necessary from the County regarding access for Lot #1 to have access onto Janesville Road. Mrs. Bonnie Dominski explained that currently there is a driveway on Lot #1 with access onto Janesville Road. I Pg. 2 Plan Commission Minutes 10/05/93 Ald. Taube asked if Lot #2 will have access from Kipling Drive. 0 Chairman DeAngelis questioned if the property to the east of Lot explained that in the City of Muskego driveways must be atleast #1 and Lot #1 have a shared driveway. Chairman DeAngelis driveways. Ald. Taube explained that it is necessary for the 3' from the lot line, therefore there would be 6' between any two petitioner to establish with the County whether Lot #1 still has access onto Janesville Road. Chairman DeAngelis was concerned whether Lot #1 and the property to the east were a common entrance on Janesville Road. Mrs. Dominski explained that they are two petitioners to verify with the County, if it is one access or two separate access points on Janesville Road. Ald. Taube asked the separate access points. He further explained that if the County requires it to be a shared driveway then a variance would be required from the Board of Appeals. Mr. Dominski indicated that his driveway was first driveway and the other one was added. Chairman DeAngelis and Director Dykstra explained that it is still necessary for the petitioners to discuss this with the County Hulbert made a motion to amend by changing the THEREFORE BE IT regardless of which driveway was there first. Commissioner Dominski subject to clarification from the County regarding the RESOLVED, to read as follows: .... Section 1 by John & Bonnie access points for the proposed Lot Wl and the property to the east of this proposed land division. Ald. Taube seconded. There was no further discussion. Upon a voice vote, the motion to amend passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote, amended Resolution 0 #P.C. 191-93 passed unanimously. - RESOLUTION WP.C.192-93 -- Approval of Second Garage Structure for Darryl Skinner located at S71 W13493 Woods Road. Ald. Taube made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Smith seconded. Ald. Taube asked if roof on the proposed second garage will match the existing roof on the house. Mr. Skinner explained that the roof would also be a gable roof the same as the roof on the will match as close as possible to the house. Chairman asked if house. He also stated that the siding and the color of the siding Mr. Skinner would be running a business out of this garage. Mr. Skinner indicated that he will not be. He needs inside storage for his boat and garden equipment. Mr. Skinner also indicated that it will not have a driveway to the structure. Mr. Skinner stated that the roof height will be 12'6" roof height. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 192-93 passed unanimously. RESOLUTION WP.C.193-93 -- Approval of Sketch for Land Division for the City of Muskego for a 2.46 Acre Lot in the SW 1/4 of Section 16 in the Muskego Industrial Park Addition #l. Commissioner Smith made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Honl seconded. Ald. Taube asked if this division is for Merit Asphalt property. Chairman DeAngelis explained that it was and he further explained that after easements and floodplain are addressed there is an excess of an acre that is buildable. Upon a roll call vote, 0 Resolution #P.C. 193-93 passed unanimously. I Pg. 3 Plan Commission Minutes 10/05/93 RESOLUTION #P.C.194-93 -- Approval of Certified Survey Map for Land Division for the City of Muskego for a 2.46 Acre Lot in the SW 1/4 of Section 16 in the Muskego Industrial Park Addition #l. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to adopt, Ald. Taube seconded. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 194-93 passed unanimously MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS and Operation Plan and clarification. Mr. Jim Hayden explained that the previous owners never informed them of the requirement for the fencing. He would like clarification of exactly what has to be done. Chairman DeAngelis Site and Operation Plan along with the asphalting and landscaping indicated that the fencing was shown on the approved Building, that has yet to be finished. These items need to be finished. Mr. Hayden asked if the Plan Commissioners would be receptive to outside parking along the rear of the building of boats, trailers, and cars, etc. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that the Building, stated that in the 25' to the rear of the property they would like Site and Operation Plan would have to be amended. Mr. Hayden to have outside storage. Mr. Hayden also would like outside storage along the building on both the east and west side. Chairman DeAngelis is concerned whether there would be an adequate driveway and turning space. Mr. Hayden explained on the rear storage facilities don't require a turn just unloading. Mr. Hayden indicated it would be angle parking eliminating the need to turn. Mr. Hayden explained that there is only $3,500 escrowed for landscaping and asphalt and that the bid for fencing alone was $3,500. The amount escrowed is not enough to do the asphalt, landscape and fence in this property. The extra outside parking would make the asphalting, landscaping and fencing feasible. Commissioner Hulbert stated that the Commissioner should give Mr. Hayden some type of guidance this evening, so he will be able to submit a plan that the Plan Commissioners will be receptive to. Ald. Taube is concerned with any outside storage that would be higher than the 6' fence and be visible to the other properties in the Industrial Park. He indicated the need for a higher fence. Mr. Hayden stated that he would be willing to put a restriction on the height of any outside storage/parking. Director Dysktra informed the Commission that the Deed Restrictions of the Industrial Park must be followed which stated behind the building setback line from the street and must be that "All material or products stored outside buildings must be screened from view from the street with solid fencing or screening approved by the Planning Commission. All trash must be enclosed by a fence of solid material such as will provide a suitable visual screen. Minimum height of such fence shall be six feet. Fence must be kept painted or have such other finish as is generally accepted for good appearance. Wire fence is not acceptable for this purpose." and in the Zoning Ordinanceit consent of property owners. Chairman DeAngelis stated that any of A-1 Storage, Discussion regarding the original Building, Site indicates that any fence in excess of 6' will require written Pg. 4 Plan Commission Minutes 10/05/93 the outside storage must be behind the front setback of the building. Commissioner Hulbert & Smith not in favor of outside storage will look and he is concerned that there will not be enough room for vehicles to maneuver, therefore it will result in damage to personal property. Mr. Hayden indicated that the asphalt company felt that there would be sufficient space. Mr. Hayden indicated that 25' asphalted would be better, however they will do the required 10' of asphalt if that is what the Plan Commission requires. Mr. Hayden indicated that the areas in question have to be graded and add stone prior to asphalting. Mr. Hayden indicated that he is sincere in his attempt to complete the items required on the Building, Site and Operation Plan. He has talked with Mr. Loughney and with the Fire Chief in the past two months regarding the asphalting and the drainage of the Dykstra indicated that he is unsure of the status, but he assured property. He asked the current status of the check. Director Mr. Hayden he would check on the status. Chairman DeAngelis asked if any Commissioners had further direction for the petitioners. Commissioner Hulbert would like the original plan followed. Mr. Hayden is still concerned with the fencing. Mr. Hayden asked if he goes the 8' will he then have to add the 2' to the adjoining property's existing 6' fence. Chairman DeAngelis the fence in order to do that. The Commissioners had no further indicated that he would have to have approval from the owner of direction. storage. Chairman DeAngelis is still unclear on how the outside 0 Building, Site and Operation Plan. Mr. Jifas explained that Parthanon Gyros Express, Discussion on amendments to pursuing the possibility of purchasing the Sport Shack property in Chairman DeAngelis asked if all the items that were in question order to expand the restaurant and for additional parking. have been addressed. Mr. Jifas stated that the rear of the building the parking is angled instead of straight, the drive thru building, walk in cooler and the trash area is also in a new has been removed, the grease container is further from the he is still waiting for the final plans of the addition before he location as shown on the revised plan. Mr. Jifas explained that submits them for the amendment to his Building, Site and Operation Plan. Chairman DeAngelis is concerned with parking spots of 10,ll and 12. Mr. Jifas is thing about removing 12 as a handicapped space because he only is required to have one. If 12 is eliminated then 10 and 11 could be parallel to the building instead of at an angle. Mr. Jifas indicated that he would do this weather because of the pitch of the asphalt. Commissioner Hulbert as long this doesn't have a problem with ice and water in bad suggested looking at closing one of the access points on Janesville Road if he acquires the Sports Shack property. Mr. Jifas agreed that if he acquires the Sports Shack property he will still when finished with the addition have two access points onto Janesville Road and that he is not looking for the additional signage that is currently permitted for the Sports Shack. Mr. Jifas stated that he wants a two or three lane wide exit/entrance onto Janesville Road. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that 45' wide I Pg. 5 Plan Commission Minutes 10/05/93 exit/entrance would probably be sufficient. Mr. Jifas indicted that there are ways to make it work, however he has no control parking will be where the Sports Shack is currently. Chairman over whether people follow them or not. After the addition, the DeAngelis indicated that the road reservation will have to be also addressed at the time of the amended Building, Site and Operation Plan. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that he would probably have to give approximately 27' of road dedication. Chairman DeAngelis highway. Chairman DeAngelis asked if any Commissioners had any indicated that if it was a 4 lane then it would be 30' from the one was opposed with the exception of parking spaces 10, 11 and further questions regarding the changes Mr. Jifas has made. No and the flashing arrows. Mr. Jifas asked if Commissioner Hulbert 12. Commissioner Hulbert is concerned with the base of the sign would still be opposed if the arrows were in constant illumination. Ald. Taube asked if the fence around the facility keeps light pollution from vehicles to a minimum. Mr. Jifas indicated that it did. Commissioner Hulbert is concerned with any beer and alcohol signs that may be placed in the window facing the school after the addition. Mr. Jifas also agreed that it wasn't Jifas indicated that he will not do anything with Michi Drive necessary to have any beer or alcohol signs on that side. Mr. exit/entrance. It is a residential street and would prefer not to have his business empty onto it. Mr. Jifas explained that he will be coming back in 4-6 weeks with the submittal of the amended Building, Site and Operation Plan for the addition. Mr. Jifas was concerned with the hours of operation. He questioned whether there is currently any restriction on the time his business is open. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that this is something he submits with his amended Building, Site and Operation Plan and that currently the City does not have a set restriction other than following what is approved by the Plan Commission. Greg Pasky, Discussion regarding his Conditional Use Grant. Chairman DeAngelis explained that there hasn't been any communication received at this time from the County, therefore we notified Mr. Pasky that this item will not be discussed and that Miscellaneous Business when a reply is received from the County it was not necessary for him to appear. This will be placed under and then Mr. Pasky will be present. Walter Bohrer, Jr., Discussion on Building, Site and Operation Plan and Conditional Use Permit. Mr. Bohrer explained that Mr. Frenz would be representing himself and Mr. Maslar in the future. Mr. Bohrer stated that to asphalt the entire area is not feasible at one time. It would be easier to do it piece meal. Mr. Frenz indicated that the used car license would not be Chairman DeAngelis indicated the need for outside screening. needed. They would like to continue on the existing gravel. Chairman DeAngelis stated that the paving is a standard requirement. Ald. Taube felt that the drainage of the property should also be reviewed. Director Dykstra found in the file a asphalted. Therefore, this is not a new request. Mr. Bohrer Resolution from 1976 that required the parking area to be Pg. 6 Plan Commission Minutes 10/05/93 explained that it is not financially feasible. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that a perfect example is the 1976 Resolution requesting the asphalting of why the Plan Commission should not approve the plans prior to the paving. Unless a bond is posted. Mr. Frenz asked if the amount of vehicles is reduced to 25 if the Plan Commission would be receptive to less asphalting. If you can show that 25 cars spaces will be adequate. Chairman DeAngelis will be a request for pavement. Ald. Taube asked if this would indicated that with Mr. Kriel's request for an amendment there ever go back to an auction facility. Mr. Bohrer explained that he would have to request the use from the Plan Commission. Director Dykstra stated that any outside storage must be fenced and screened. Commissioner Hulbert feels that the existing Conditional Use Grant needs to be studied and any uses that are not in use removed. Mr. Bohrer is concerned because he purchased this property as an investment and in removing any uses that DeAngelis advised Mr. Bohrer to submit an amended Building, Site aren't being used he it may cause him undue hardship. Chairman advised that Mr. Kriel's request for expansion of the and.0peration Plan for the parking and screening. He further Conditional Use Grant will be on October 19, 1993 and advised that Mr. Bohrer may also want to submit his plans for the this portion of the property on the same evening. The deadline for submitted plans is Friday, October 8, 1993. Chairman DeAngelis explained that the Plan Commission will be in the basement in the Muskego Room if the proposed floor plans are approved. Chairman DeAngelis informed the Commissioners that Commissioner Damaske handed in his resignation from the Plan Commission. Chairman DeAngelis was sorry to hear that. Commissioner Hulbert asked the status of the new planner. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that interviewing will start on October 13 and will hopefully have a new Plan Director by mid November. ADJOURNMENT Commissioner Honl made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 9:00 p.m. Commissioner Smith seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion to adjourn passed unanimously. Recording Secretary J