PCM19930817CITY OF MUSKEGO
PLAN COMMISSION
MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON AUGUST 17, 1993
Mayor David DeAngelis called the meeting to order at 7:OO p.m.
PRESENT: Chairman David DeAngelis, Darl Honl, Edward Raimann,
Ald. Taube, Mark Damaske, Mrs. Smith, and Director Larry Kirch.
ABSENT: Jerry Hulbert (excused)
MINUTES: Commissioner Raimann made a motion to approve the
Minutes of the August 3, 1993 Meeting. Commissioner Damaske
seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adopt passed
unanimously.
Mayor DeAngelis gave the Chair to Ald. Taube due to a possible
conflict of interest.
OLD BUSINESS:
Operation Plan for the Muskego Family House Restaurant by Peter
RESOLUTION XP.C.138-93 -- Approval of Building, Site and
Panagos located at S75 W17536 Janesville Road. Deferred from
additional parking from Dr. Reiss indicating that he is willing
08/03/93 meeting. Mr. Panagos presented a letter of intent for
to lease 10 parking spaces for 5 years. Chairman Taube was
concerned with the short length of time of the lease agreement.
Mr. Panagos indicated this is the length of time the lease
agreement is for. He also indicated that they have a verbal
agreement for additional parking after 5:OO p.m. in the front of
the building. Mr. Panagos stated that the 10 parking spaces on
the south side will be asphalted by himself. Commissioner Honl is
perfectly satisfied with parking. Commissioner Raimann indicated
within reason. Mr. Panagos feels that with the 45 spaces that
that the 50 parking spaces and a lease agreement of 10 years is
we should go ahead with this project prior to winter setting in.
Commissioner Honl asked Director Kirch if this is in compliance.
Director Kirch indicated that the petitioner meets the current
parking code, and that the City Attorney advised him that the code
Commission can not deny this Building, Site and Operation Plan due
is in black and white and if it meets the code, the Plan
to the parking. They can deny it, if there is any other
agreed at the last meeting that at least 50 parking spaces were
justifiable reason. Commissioner Damaske feels that it was
needed. Mr. Panagos doesn't feel that 5 parking spots short of
50 is a reason to deny this. Chairman Taube asked if the
parking issue. Mr. Panagos indicated that he wouldn't down
petitioner would down scale his building to accommodate the
scale his building. Mr. Panagos is just trying to create a nice
building not a cheap building, conforming with all the laws and
done the right way. Mr. Ingersoll, present in the audience,
recommends that the Plan Commission members visit the proposed
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parking site. He was also concerned that the school located
what will happen when this restaurant is built. Would we be
across Park Drive currently doesn't have sufficient parking and
adding a burden to the school? Mr. Schulte, a resident,
indicated that he has a problem with anything verbal. He would
problem with the proposed parking across the street. Mr.
like to see it written. He also feels that there is a safety
Giefer stated that when they developed the Bay Breeze Development
Schulte indicated that the petitioner needs a bigger lot. Mrs.
Kirch indicated that the building would not be in the 40'
that they had a 60' dedication of road right-of-way. Director
dedicated right-of-way.
There was concern with why the Plan Commission would allow this on
a nonconforming lot. Director Kirch informed the residents that
the proposed use is a conforming use, the lot size is
Kirch indicated that the 8-4 Zoning allows a restaurant with an
nonconforming to the 8-4 Zoning Ordinance Requirements. Director
approved Building, Site and Operation Plan, even on a
non-conforming lot.
make a compromise or just to have this denied.
Commissioner Damaske asked residents if they were looking to
A resident of Bay Breeze indicated that the lot size, building
size, and the parking issue are a tremendous reason not to allow
this restaurant to be built. He further stated that there should
not be any restaurant at this location. Mr. Schulte indicated
that this is the time to correct the zoning. Director Kirch
indicated that the City can rezone any property without the owners
agreement. Helen Meyer, resident in Bay Breeze, is not against
commercial use of this property. Such as a dentist office, an
insurance office, or a real estate office, however she feels there
will only add further congestion. Judy Steiner, resident of Bay
is currently traffic congestion and development of this property
Breeze, asked if a house could be built on this property.
Director Kirch indicated that it could not, because it is
currently Business Zoned. Commissioner Honl questioned why the
petitioner was willing to spend all of the time, effort and money
on this project when he is encountering so much strife. Mr.
Panagos indicated that he likes this corner and he is willing to
risk loosing customers due to the parking situation. Mr.
Mr. Walt Porter, a Bay Breeze resident, asked if there has been
Schulte asked where the petitioner is going to place his snow.
was given to the safety of those individuals crossing the street
any consideration of handicapped spots and if any consideration
to go to the restaurant. There are 2 handicapped parking places
on the site plan. Mrs. Giefer is not opposed to a smaller
restaurant at this location, however she is concerned as a parent
of her daughter's safety when she goes to school across the
street. Walt Porter questions the safety of crossing the street
to get to the restaurant. Mr. Ingersoll asked Commissioner
Damaske what is an ideal number for parking spots and indicated
that the Plan Commission should look at the real world and deal in
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be two people seated at a table for four and four people at a
realty. Commissioner Damaske indicated that more often it will
parking amount and that there will not be a large number of
table for six. He feels that 50 parking spaces are a realistic
employees crossing the street at the peak time of traffic because
they will be already at work. Mr. Jack Racaquital, a resident,
feels that this restaurant will not logically work at this
location. Commissioner Raimann stated that he is in compliance
although he offered 50 parking spaces, he is in compliance with
the current code.
Chairman Taube feels at this point that a deferral is in order to
allow the petitioner further time to acquire further parking
spaces. He would like to further clarify any other questions
regarding this item. Chairman Taube would like an amendment that
would discuss the directional lighting, a fence to prevent the car
light from bleeding out, maintaining the existing trees on the
property line as a noise and visual buffer, and filling the berm
between the two properties. Commissioner Honl made a motion to
amend to add a second THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED to read as
follows: THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, That Plan Commission approve
the revised Building, Site and Operation Plan subject to the
following:
1. All exterior lighting be directional lighting directed
down or at the building with no light pollution to disturb the
existing residences.
west side of the property to screen the lights of any traffic
entering or exiting the restaurant.
3. The existing berms at the ridge on the Bay Breeze
Development Property be joined as one continuous berm with sod
planted on the berm.
4. That 3" caliper (12" from the ball) coniferous trees be
planted in a triangle pattern with 15' spacing on the top of the
berm coordinating with the existing plantings to allow sight
protection from the restaurant.
And to further amend by adding to the second BE IT THEREFORE
snow removal service must be used.
RESOLVED, to read ..... adjacent to Park Drive and Janesville
Road. Commissioner Smith seconded. Upon a roll call vote, the
amendment passed unanimously. Commissioner Honl called for the
question. Commissioner Smith asked if someone else asked for a
deferral. Chairman Taube indicated that he had previously
suggested a deferral. Upon a roll call vote, the call for the
question passed 3-2 with Chairman Taube and Commissioner Smith
voting nay. Upon a roll call vote, amended Resolution #P.C.
138-93 passed 3-2 with Chairman Taube and Commissioner Smith
voting nay.
Chairman Taube made a motion to take a break at 8:40 p.m.
Mayor DeAngelis regained the Chair from Ald. Taube.
2. That a 6' stockade fence be placed around the north and
5. That no snow may be stored on the premises, therefore a
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at 8:50 p.m.
CONSENT AGENDA:
Plat for Le May's Long Lake Acres located in NE 1/4 of Section
Resolution #P.C.158-93 -- Approval of Exterritorial Final
I, Town of Norway. Commissioner Honl made a motion to adopt,
Commissioner Smith seconded. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution
#P.C. 158-93 passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS:
Resolution iP.C.159-93 -- Approval of Request for a
Conditional Use Grant to Allow the Multi-family Use of an Existing
Dwelling within an RS-3/0LS Zoning District for Frederick G. Meyer
& Jay Strande at W183 S6570 Jewel Crest Drive. Commissioner
Smith made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Raimann seconded.
Director Kirch discussed a possible amendment in the second and
fifth WHEREAS,s. Commissioner Honl made a motion to amend by
changing the second WHEREAS to read: .... Section 17:8.01(7)C.ll
and to amend the fifth WHEREAS to read: ...p roperty which is
granted an automatic Conditional Use Status.... and in the same
WHEREAS to read: .... status in order to officially record the
property .... Commissioner Smith seconded. Ald. Taube again
stated that he always remembered that this was a mother-in-law
unit and doesn't like to see multiple family zoning in a suburban 0 this was a mother-in-law unit and would not be a duplex. Chairman
residence neighborhood. Jerry Lee previously told Ald. Taube that
DeAngelis explained that there is nothing in the file to indicate
that this property was previously a mother-in-law unit.
Commissioner Honl asked if the sewer recs and the taxes were
charged as a duplex. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that this
property has paid for the duplex and the sewer recs have been
photos of the property in the question. After further
for a duplex. Mr. Strande presented the Plan Commission with
conversation, Ald. Taube realized he was not talking about the
down from this property there is a duplex that was rezoned to
same piece of property. Director Kirch indicated that 3 doors
allow it. Upon a roll call vote, the amendment passed 5-1 with
Ald. Taube voting nay. Upon roll call vote, the amended
Resolution #P.C. 159-93 passed 5-1 with Ald. Taube voting
nay.
Resolution #P.C.160-93 -- Approval to Amend Resolution #P.C.
86-92 for Allan Biewer "Disapproval of Request for a Conditional
Use Grant to allow the Multi-family Use of an Existing Structure
converting the Business Portion at W180 S7795 Pioneer Drive into a
Damaske seconded. Mr. Biewer indicated that he is concerned Duplex". Ald. Taube made a motion to adopt, Commissioner
that as the Plan Commission Members change there will not be any
one to remember that it was generally approved to be a duplex.
Commissioner Smith asked if it will be done when the dam failure
regarding the requirements and stated that it will be easily
0 flood is removed. Mr. Biewer has talked with Mr. Dykstra
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converted and will meet the necessary requirements. Upon a roll
call vote, Resolution #P.C. 160-93 passed unanimously.
Structure for Robert PiDkin located at 573 W14454 Woods Road
Resolution IP.C.161-93 -- Approval of Second Garage
Commissioner Raimann mahe a motion to adopt, Commissioner Honl
seconded. Mrs. Pipkin was present and didn't have any further
information to add. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C.
161-93 passed unanimously.
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Resolution IP.C.162-93 -- Approval of Sketch for Certified
Survey Map for One (1) Lot for Brian & Heidi Martin located in the
Commissioner Honl made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Smith
SE 1/4 of Section 19. (Hillendale Drive and Henneberry Drive)
seconded. Director Kirch explained the request and the EA Zoning
District requirements. Mr. Martin explained that Mr. King owns
land on both sides of the road. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution
#P.C. 162-93 passed unanimously.
Resolution dP.C.163-93 -- Approval of Second Garage
Structure for Dennis Wolken located at W170 S6771 Timber Court.
Ald. Taube made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Damaske
seconded. Upon a roll call vote, passed unanimously.
Resolution IP.C.164-93 -- Approval of Sketch for a
Preliminarv Plat for Six 16) Lots bv MetrODOlitan Enaineerinq for
the Belsha-Property located'in the NE 1/4 of Section-11.
(Hidden Creek Court E, Durham Drive) Commissioner Smith made a
motion to adopt, Commissioner Honl seconded. Chairman DeAngelis
asked if Lot 1 meets the requirements. Director Kirch indicated
that it is up to the Plan Commission to decide which of the two
all of the buildings were shown on this sketch, but he is sure zonings will be used for Lot 1. Director Kirch was unsure if
that they will be on the preliminary plat. Mr. Potrykus indicated
that all buildings will be shown at the preliminary plat stage.
Ald. Taube felt that in the third WHEREAS the following language
should be removed: ... of the tolerance.... Mr. Potrykus
Certified Survey Map for the first 4 lots, so that it can be done
indicated that it is possible that this division may be done as
prior to the final lift of asphalt on Hidden Creek Court in the
Settler's Creek Subdivision. Director Kirch indicated that it
would be a shame to tear down the small grainery building, it is
probably a historical building. Mr. Belsha is concerned whether
he can keep the out buildings until he divides the last three
lots. Director Kirch indicated that for the Smukowksi property
they did make the allowance that the barn could stay for 5 years
and have the Plan Commission review after 5 years. Commissioner
Honl is agreeable to doing something similar to that for Mr.
Belsha. Commissioner Honl made a motion to amend, in the the
third WHEREAS to read: ... size is within 10% of the RS-2
zoning ... and to further amend in the THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED to
read: ... to a Preliminary Plat or Certified Survey Map being
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(1) submitted creating a land division for six lots or three lots in
\: the ...... Commissioner Damaske seconded. Upon a voice vote,
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the amendment passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote, amended I Resolution #P.C. 164-93 passed unanimously.
Resolution XP.C.165-93 -- Approval of Sketch for a Certified
Survey Map for One (1) Parcel for the May Property located in the
motion adopt, Commissioner Raimann seconded. Director Kirch
SE 1/4 of Section 13. (Durham Drive) Commissioner Smith made a
indicated that this is a sketch that meets all of the
requirements. The outbuildings are only 2 feet shy of meeting the
1% requirements and the Plan Commission has the authority to grant
them the allowance. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C.
165-93 passed unanimously.
One (1) Parcel for the May Property located in the SE 1/4 of
Section 13. (Durham Drive) Commissioner Honl made a motion to
adopt, Commissioner Raimann seconded. Ald. Taube made a motion to
amend the first WHEREAS to read: .... of Section 13, and a
revised Certified Survey Map was eubmitted on August 17, 1993,
and also amend the third WHEREAS to read: WHEREAS, The Revised
Certified ... and to also remove the word not from the third and
fourth WHEREAS, and to also amend the fourth WHEREAS to read .... outbuildings and the Revised Certified Survey Map., and
amend THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED to read: .... subject to Durham
Road being changed to Durham Drive on the face of the Certified
Survey Map, approval of the City Engineer .... Commissioner Smith
seconded. Upon a voice vote, the amendment passed unanimously.
unanimously.
Resolution #P.C.166-93 -- Approval of Certified Survey Map
Upon a roll call vote, amended Resolution #P.C. 166-93 passed
Resolution XP.C.167-93 -- Approval of Amended Building, Site
and Operation Plan by Lang Construction for the Country Squire
located at 572 W16373 Janesville Road. Commissioner Honl made a
motion to adopt, Ald. Taube seconded. Mr. Lang explained that
this garage will be as close in color scheme as possible to match
the existing building. Chairman DeAngelis asked the petitioner
how he feels about getting a Conditional Use Grant for this
property. The petitioner feels that he would be willing to do a
Conditional Use Grant. Ald. Taube asked if this resolution does
create a paper trail for this property in order to recognize this
as it is. Commissioner Honl made a motion to amend to add: BE
IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That a Conditional Use Grant be recorded
within 30 days and that a public hearing is not necessary.
Commissioner Raimann seconded. Upon a voice vote, the amendment
passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote, amended Resolution
#P.C. 167-93 passed unanimously.
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS
Mr. Jifas was present to discuss his situation. He agreed to come
back to the Planning Commissioner within 30 days with a revised
dumpster location, the revised number of parking spaces, the
Parthanon Gyros Express
Building, Site and Operation Plan. The revision will include his
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removal of a drive through, addition of the grease receptacle,
revised schedule of hours, and the revised sign. Mr. Jifas
explained that it will take him 30 days because he is no longer
Mr. Jifas should be allowed 30 days to submit a revised Building,
using Mr. Mayos as his engineer. Director Kirch indicated that
Site and Operation Plan since he will be obtaining a new
engineer.
RESOLUTION #P.C.151-93 -- Approval of Amendment to the
Comprehensive Land Use Plan, Map 8 "Recommended Improvements For
Year 2010 City of Muskego Arterial Street and Highway System
Plan". Deferred from 08/03/93 meeting. Director Kirch indicated
Ruekert & Mielke prepared a preliminary drawing. He also
indicated that this was done off of satellite photos. The new map
will be drawn on a computer. Director Kirch further stated that
the Planning Department has put in its 1994 Budget for a CAD
system, so that all maps or cadastrals will be done off of
computers and not free hand. This preliminary drawing has most of
the changes, however it needs to be cleaned up by Ruekert h Mielke
prior to approval. Director Kirch suggested deferral and
over next Thursday, August 26, 1993. Commissioner Honl made a
indicated that the Public Works Committee will be looking this
motion to defer, Commissioner Raimann seconded. Upon a voice
vote, the motion to defer Resolution #P.C. 158-93 passed
unanimously. Commissioner Honl asked he could have a map with the
subdivisions added. Director Kirch indicated that he could
provide an updated street map for the Plan Commissioners.
RESOLUTION #P.C.153-93 -- Recommendation of the Planning
Commission of a Revised Fee Schedule for the Planning Department.
Director Kirch explained the memo. Director Kirch then explained
the estimated review costs. After further discussion,
Commissioner Honl made a motion to amend the resolution as
follows:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
11.
10.
12.
APPLICATION TYPE PEE AMOUNT
Conditional Use Grant
Rezoning
P.U.D.
Floodplain Rezoning
Certified Survey Map
Preliminary Plat
Final Plat
Extraterritorial Preliminary
Extraterritorial Final Plat
Farmland Certification Fee
Fee in lieu of Park
Sign Review Fee
125.00
150.00
250.00
200.00
50.00 h $5.00
per lot
125.00 h $5.00
per lot
75.00 h $5.00
per lot
Plat 125.00 h $5.00
per lot
75.00 k $5.00
per lot
600.00
10.00
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13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.
22.
23.
24.
25.
26.
Sketch Review Fee CSM
Sketch Review Fee Preliminary Plat
Sketch Review Fee Preliminary Plat
(10 or less lots)
Site Plan Review Fee (1st submittal
(10 or more lots)
Site Plan Review Fee (amendments)
Legal Lot Status
Second Garage Structure
Preliminary Plat Reapplication
Preliminary Plat Reapplication
(substantial changes)
Final Plat Reapplication
(non-substantial changes)
Final Plat Reapplication
(substantial changes)
Extractive Permit
(non-substantial changes)
Asphalt Plant
Truck Parking
10.00
25.00
50.00
1 25.00 10.00
25.00
50.00
25.00
5.00
25.00
5.00
300.00
300.00
35.00
Ald. Taube seconded. Upon a roll call vote, the amendment passed
unanimously. Director Kirch went through and explained each how
each revision compared with other Cities. Upon a roll call vote,
amended Resolution #P.C. 153-93 passed unanimously.
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS
Chairman DeAngelis indicated that Mr. Bohrer had appeared in front
of Director Kirch and himself. He will be attending on September
21, 1993 meeting.
Director Kirch explained what has happening with Mr. Pasky's
Works to receive information from Mr. Dykstra.
problem with the neighbor's property. It was deferred at Public
Director Kirch explained that the Subdivider's Procedural Guide
was handed out this evening. He further explained what exactly
the Subdivider's Procedural Guide is. The City Engineer's are
going to update the engineering portion.
Director Kirch indicated that the Population handout is for your
information.
Chairman DeAngelis indicated that this is the last Plan Commission
Meeting for Director Kirch, because he is leaving to go to the
City of Lacrosse.
Director Kirch explained the individual zoning cadestrals of the
City of Muskego. He further explained the necessary process to
clean up these individual zoning's which are in question.
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It was decided after further discussion, that Resolution #P.C.
138-93 should be placed on the September 7, 1993 for possible
reconsideration.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Honl made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 11:45
p.m. Commissioner Raimann seconded. Upon a voice vote, the
motion to adjourn passed unanimously.
Recording Secretary