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PCM19930601CITY OF MUSKEGO PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON JUNE 1, 1993 Mayor Dave DeAngelis called the meeting to order at 7:OO P.M. PRESENT: Chairman Dave DeAngelis, Darl Honl, Edward Raimann, Jerry Hulbert, Ald. Taube (arriving at 7:05), Mark Damaske, and Director Larry Kirch. ABSENT: Mrs. Smith (excused) MINUTES: Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to approve the Minutes of the May 18, 1993 meeting. Commissioner Raimann seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. OLD BUSINESS: for Marc Addis for Four Lots in the NW 1/4 of Section 34 (Muskego Resolution #P.C. 29-93 -- Approval of Certified Survey Map Dam Drive). Deferred from 05/18/93 meeting. Mr. Wendt, representing the petitioners, presented a revised Certified Survey Map indicating 4 parcels of five acres or more. All road division would not necessitate the filling of wetlands. Chairman requirements are met. Mr. Wendt indicated that this land DeAngelis questioned why the petitioners opt for interpret the 60' road right-of-way dedication and cul-de-sac which would accomplish the same thing. Mr. Wendt indicated that they didn't want to fill any wetlands which would have to be done for the 60' road. Mr. Wendt explained that in the deed restrictions it would state Addis questioned if, in the future the City could require the land that there could not be any further division of the parcels. Mrs. owners to make the proposed dedicated road a City road. Director Kirch indicated that the City could not force the property owners to do this. The only way this road would become a City road was for it to be improved by the residents to city standards first. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to defer Resolution P.C. #29-93 to allow the petitioner to add the 60' dedicated road right-of-way and cul-de-sac. Commissioner Raimann seconded. Upon a voice vote, Resolution #P.C. was deferred unanimously. Resolution #P.C. 89-93 -- Approval of Certified Survey Map for Blenda Treba for Two Parcels in the NW 1/4 of Section 8 (Hillendale Drive). Deferred from 05/18/93 meeting. Director Kirch indicated that there has not been any further information regarding the sewer at this time, however there are some concerned neighbors present in the audience. Director Kirch also indicated asked the secretary to read the letter from Allan and Sharon that Ald. Schneider was unable to attend. Chairman DeAngelis Kokott. Mr. Allan Kokott and Mrs. Sharon Kokott, present in the audience, explained why they didn't want this land division to Pg. 2 Plan Commission Minutes 06/01/93 They explained that when they purchased their land the property in happen and that they had a petition from neighboring residents. question also had the same zoning and couldn't be divided. They question the creation of an odd shaped lot and the amount of trees that will be destroyed and the amount of wildlife that is present. Director Kirch explained that the rezoning had taken place in 1988. He also explained that the proposed lot will meet all size and width requirements. Mr. Kokott questioned why he had to build his shed 25' off the lot line when this lot can have a house 15' to 20' off the lot line. Director Kirch stated that different zoning districts. Director Kirch also explained that the Kokott's property and the Trebas property have two this lot can only be divided if MMSD allows the hookup of a grinder pump. Mr. Kokott asked if the Plan Commission could require that any house built on this proposed lot be 20' off the property line adjoining his. The Plan Commissioners agreed to have Director Kirch check and see if legally they can make this requirement. Ald. Taube indicated that the particular issue they are talking about is dealt with at an Aldermanic level and it is their right to approach it at that level. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to defer, Commissioner Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion to defer Resolution #P.C. 89-93 passed unanimously. RESOLUTION #P.C. 97-93 -- Approval of Certified Survey Map of Three (3) parcels by Metropolitan Engineering for David C. Ludwig & Judith M. Strampe in the SW 1/4 of Section 11 (Woods Director Kirch indicated that the utility committee allowed the Road & Mystic Drive). Deferred from 05/18/93 meeting. hookup of these three proposed lots to the sewer. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 97-93 passed unanimously. RESOLUTION #P.C. 99-93 -- Approval of Sketch for Boehm & Heinrich Subdivision in the SE 1/4 & SW 1/4 of Section 16 (Racine Avenue and Woods Road). Deferred from 05/18/93 meeting. Director Kirch indicated that Mr. Heinrich had requested that this a motion to defer, Ald. Taube seconded. Upon a voice vote, item be deferred for at least 2 weeks. Commissioner Hulbert made Resolution #P.C. 99-93 was deferred. NEW BUSINESS: RESOLUTION XP.C.111-93 -- Approval of Preliminary Plat for Candlewood Creek Subdivision (Phase 1) located in the NW 1/4 of Section 11. (Woods Road & Durham Drive) Ald. Taube made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Honl seconded. Ms. Beth Rummel, Towne Realty and Phil Pine, engineer from Bonestroo & Assoc. were present to explain their proposal. Ms. Rummel had some questions regarding the City Engineer comments and asked to go through them to ensure they are understanding them correctly. Director Kirch stated that the City Attorney had requested that this item be deferred until the City Attorney can look over the proposed note being placed on the Preliminary Plat. Ms. Rummel questioned whether her firm should be the ones trying to acquire Pg. 3 Plan Commission Minutes 06/01/93 the required 574 square feet of road dedication. She has been in contact with the individual, but feels that they should also hear explained that the City can not go in and require that they give it from the City not just from the developer. Chairman DeAngelis City's policy. The Plan Commission directed Ms. Rummel to have or sell this land unless they would condemn it and that is not the verified. Ms. Rummel explained that it is their intent to keep the individual call the Planning Director so this can be pad. Ald. Taube questioned whether they would be receptive to a the wooded lots wooded with the only grading for the building berm with a vegetative buffer along Woods Road. Ms. Rummel stated she is willing to explore it. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to defer, Commissioner Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote, Resolution #P.C. 111-93 was deferred unanimously. Chairman DeAngelis gave the floor to Ald. Taube due to a possible conflict of interest. RESOLUTION #P.C.112-93 -- Approval of Preliminary Plat for Lutsch Estates located in the NE 1/4 of Section 11. (Woods Road Commissioner Raimann seconded. Chairman Taube explained what had and Durham Drive) Commissioner Honl made a motion to adopt, previously had transpired at the early meetings. Director Kirch's only comment is that the previously approved lots will not show up on the final plat because that they have been approved. The final plat will be 7 lots. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 112.93 passed unanimously. Ald. Taube gave the floor back to Mayor DeAngelis 0 RESOLUTION #P.C.115-93 -- Approval of an Amended Building, Site and Operation Plan for the Hunter's Nest located at S80 W14401 Schultz Lane. Commissioner Raimann made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Honl seconded. Mr. Sam Klauser was present along with his builder Mr. Tim Lang from Lang Construction. Mr. Klauser explained that his motor home would be stored next to the building on the outside. He also indicated that he will be removing the existing garage and two of the smaller sheds. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 115-93 passed unanimously. RESOLUTION tP.C.116-93 -- Re-Approval of Certified Survey Map for Four Parcels by Metropolitan Engineering for the Kablitz Property in the SW 1/4 of Section 17.(Woods Road) Commissioner was explained that this was brought forth for re-approval because Honl made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Damaske seconded. It the allowed time for recording had elapsed. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 116-93 passed unanimously. RESOLUTION #P.C.117-93 -- Approval of Extraterritorial Final Plat for Golden Meadows at Lake Tichigan Addt#2 by Metropolitan Engineering for Kosobucki Brothers Partnership in the SW 1/4 of Section 1, Town of Waterford. Commissioner Raimann made a motion Resolution #P.C. 117-93 was passed unanimously. to adopt, Commissioner Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll call vote, Pg. 4 Plan Commission Minutes 06/01/93 RESOLUTION tP.C.118-93 -- Approval of Sketch for Preliminary Plat for the May Property Subdivision by Metropolitan Engineering in the SE 1/4 of Section 13. Commissioner Honl made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Raimann seconded. Director Kirch indicated that approximately 1/5 of this land is in the sewer service area according to Scott Kloskowski. Mr. Kosobucki indicated that their intent is to have 1 1/2 acre lots and it would not be economical to have sewer. If sewer is required we would come in with a zoning request for smaller lots. Mr. Kosobucki also indicated that this conceptual sketch could change once the perc tests have been done. Director Kirch asked if they the developers would be responsible for the road improvements. Mr. Kosobucki indicated that he would approach the affected lot owners, but felt that the outcome would be for them to pay for it. Mr. Kosobucki questioned if curb and gutter would be required. Chairman DeAngelis indicated that it is City policy to have curb and gutter. Commissioner Raimann would like to see some control of driveway access onto North Cape Road. Director Kirch indicated that North Cape Road is a County Road and the County will let them know if they can have the access or not. It is up would like to see Lot 5 have access restricted to Schaeffer to the City for the access on Durham Drive. Commissioner Raimann Drive. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 118-93 passed unanimously. RESOLUTION tP.C.101-93 -- Approval of Street Tree Requirements. Deferred from 05/18/93 meeting. Director Kirch indicated that after some investigation it is possible to get 2 the amount of trees ordered and if the developer installs the 1/2" - 3" tree for approximately $100.00 depending on the tree, trees. According to "Trees on the Move" it is possible. He indicated that some of the surrounding cities are requiring in 2 1/2" - 3" trees. Ald. Taube asked that Director Kirch survey the surrounding communities and see what species, sizes, and other requirements they have. Ald. Taube made a motion to amend by changing BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, ... a minimum of 3" caliper .... Commissioner Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote, the amendment passed unanimously. After further discussion, Ald. Taube made a motion to amend a second time by removing the word STREET from the title and by changing WHEREAS, .... for each fifty feet (average) of frontage .... Commissioner Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote, the amendment passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote, the twice amended Resolution #P.C. 101-93 passed unanimously. RESOLUTION tP.C.113-93 -- Approval of Preliminary Plat for Lakeview Highlands North Subdivision located in the SW 1/4 of Section 5.(Racine Ave. north of Janesville Road) Commissioner Director Kirch suggested deferring this until the City Engineer Honl made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Hulbert seconded. comments could be discussed with Jahnke & Jahnke. Commissioner Raimann made a motion to defer, Commissioner Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote, Resolution #P.C. 113-93 passed unanimously. Pg. 5 Plan Commission Minutes 06/01/93 RESOLUTION #P.C.114-93 -- Approval of Sketch for a Land Division by Daniel Krueger in the SE 1/4 of Section 29. (DeBack Drive) Ald. Taube made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Hulbert seconded. Director Kirch indicated that the petitioners were waiting to have perc tests done until they knew if the Plan Commission would be receptive to the division. Mr. Eberhardt questioned whether this is a recorded Certified Survey Map. Director Kirch indicated that it could be deeded land passed made a motion to defer, Commissioner Honl seconded. Upon a voice between neighbors and that he would look in to it. Ald. Taube vote, Resolution #P.C 114-93 passed unanimously. MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS Mr. Eberhardt questioned whether the bike path in Foxboro Subdivision was requested by the Plan Commission and how wide is Commissioner Hulbert indicated that it should be 8' wide and that the connection to the bike path at the cul-de-sac to be. for the depth of the base, Mr. Eberhardt could contact Mr. Peter Theis. Director Kirch asked the Plan Commissioners what their interpretation was of the RCE Zoning District regarding are, you need 2 3/4 acres to have livestock and 40,000 square feet livestock. The commissioners all agreed that the requirements for every head of livestock so that on a 2 3/4 acre lot, there a could be 3 head of livestock. Director Kirch asked if the Plan Commission would be receptive to looking at and discussing Mr. Paske's CUP and possible modifications. The Plan Commissioners asked that this item be added to the next agenda for discussion with Mr. Paske. Director Kirch reported that he had made a site visit to the Auippa's property and there had been some progress. Such as a basement, windows, and framing in of the addition. He will be going back to check it again. He also indicated that there were a lot of cars on the property. Commissioner Hulbert questioned if the Historical Society had a time frame for getting their project done. Director Kirch indicated that he didn't think they did. ADJOURNMENT Commissioner Honl made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 10:30 p.m. and Commissioner Raimann seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion to adjourn passed unanimously. Respectfully submitted, Recording Secretar