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PCM19930504CITY OF MUSKEGO PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON MAY 4, 1993 Mayor Dave DeAngelis called the meeting to order at 7:OO P.M. PRESENT: Chairman Dave DeAngelis, Darl Honl, Edward Raimann, Jerry Hulbert, Ald. Taube (arriving at 7:05), Mrs. Smith and Director Larry Kirch. ABSENT: NONE MINUTES: Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to approve the Minutes of the April 20, 1993 meeting. Commissioner Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. OLD BUSINESS: Resolution #P.C. 264-92 -- Approval of Sketch for Land Division for Three Parcels in the SE 1/4 of Section 9 for Raymond the minutes from the previous meeting the Plan Commission gave Mr. Ingold & Charles Herbert. Director Kirch stated that based on Ingold direction for the submittal of a Certified Survey Map for one lot. Director Kirch suggested either modifying this resolution or table it. If this resolution was tabled it would be kept on file. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to Table, Commissioner Smith seconded. upon a roll call vote, the motion to Table Resolution #PC 264-92 passed unanimously. for Marc Addis for Four Lots in the NW 1/4 of Section 34 (Muskeao Resolution #P.C. 29-93 -- Approval of Certified Survey Map Dam Drive). Deferred from 05/04/93 meeting. Director Kirch hanied out and explained that a revised Certified Survey Map had been dropped off today. Mr. Gary Smith, the surveyor, explained that the road access has been changed drastically by the wetlands. Mr. Smith indicated that the petitioner would like to have an easement wetlands. Mr. Smith explained that Lot 1 would have its own for the existing lot to avoid having to put a driveway in the access and Lot 2 would have its own access with Lot 3 and Lot 4 having an easement from Lot 2 for use of the driveway. He also explained that the two driveways would use the same culvert and branch off after the culvert. Mayor DeAngelis explained that normally the Plan Commission requires a road dedication of 60' when doing a division similar to this. Mr. Smith indicated that there would be no future use of a road and that the road dedication would reduce the required lot widths therefore Lot 2 would not conform to the lot width. Director Kirch indicated that we have received the perc test information for the four proposed parcels. Director Kirch felt that there was not any one way that access. He indicated that a three lot land division would be 0 each of the 4 lots would have 30' abutting a street and have I Pg. 2 Plan Commission Minutes 05/04/93 better. It is up to the Plan Commission as to whether or not to Commissioner Hulbert's initial reaction is to limit this division to three lots. Ald. Taube and Commissioner Honl felt that a three lot land division would be the best. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to amend this resolution in the third WHEREAS, The three (3) lots meet.... and also to amend in the THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, ... for Marc Addis with a width variance for Lot 2 and... .. Commissioner Smith seconded. Upon a voice vote, the amendment passed unanimously. Director Kirch indicated amended Resolution #P.C. 29-93 and Commissioner Honl seconded. that this should be deferred. Ald. Taube made a motion to defer Upon a voice vote, the motion to defer passed unanimously. Chairman DeAngelis gave the floor to Ald. Taube due to a potential conflict of interest. 'm require this to be a three lot land division instead of four. RESOLUTION #P.C. 73-93 -- Approval of Legal Lot status for the DeAngelis Property located at S64 W18874 & 564 W18868 School Drive. Deferred from 04/20/93 meeting. Chairman Taube discussed what previously had happened. Mr. Potrykus, present in audience, was approved as a Certified Survey Map. The building sites on the informed the Plan Commission that this Legal Lot Status previously Certified Survey Map for both parcels would have been in the back The Legal Lot Status would create a 60' lot on School Drive where of the lots which is what seems to 'be causing the most concern. the next 6 lots to the west are of the same size. And only one house in the back. Mr. Potrykus explained that Mr. DeAngelis is meeting with the Muskego Lake Land Conservancy regarding the dedication of land along the creek. Mr. Howard Schneider, representative from Muskego Lake Land Conservacyn, explained that the dedicated land would be their responsibility and that the purpose in doing this is to control the amount of rainfall and Muskego Lake. At this time they have not agreed with Mr. other elements from going into the creek and then into Little DeAngelis on exactly how much property will be dedicated. Mr. DeAngelis, present in audience, explained that as Mr. Schneider together on it. Mrs. Young, resident, stated that Ald. Schneider stated they haven't come to an agreement yet, but they working had indicated that some residents were interested in purchasing some of the property. Ald. Schneider, present in audience, stated purchasing the 60' lot. Ald. Schneider did not have a problem that the residents were talking with Mr. DeAngelis about with the 60' lot and after visiting the property and seeing all of the garbage that is on the back property by the creek, he was receptive to a house being built on the property to help keep the area clean. Commissioner Hulbert felt comfortable with the fact that the Muskego Lake Land Conservancy having ownership of the land by the creek. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to amend by adding after the fourth WHEREAS: agreed to provide an easement to the Muskego Lake Land WHEREAS, The petitioner has Conservancy. Commissioner Smith seconded. Upon a voice vote, the amendment passed unanimously with Mayor DeAngelis abstaining. with this property protected by an easement it would be really Mr. Paul DeAngelis indicated that he has met with Mr. Ron Ford and Pg. 3 Plan Commission Minutes 05/04/93 good for the City. Director Kirch stated that the Certified Survey Map that was earlier approved by the Plan Commission and the Common Council was never recorded. If the petitioner wishes to proceed with the Certified Survey Map he will have to get Director Kirch also felt that if the Legal Lot Status was granted approval from the Plan Commission and the Common Council again. then the previously approved Certified Survey Map should become null and void. Director Kirch informed the Commission that he had a phone conversation with a Elizabeth Lahey who is opposed to the Legal Lot Status. Director Kirch checked the Fax machine prior to the meeting and we hadn't received a letter of opposition from Ms. Lahey. Commissioner Honl made a motion to amend by adding BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That upon Common Council approval of the Legal Lot Status that the previous1y.approved Certified Upon a voice vote, the amendment passed unanimously with Mayor Survey Map becomes null and void. Commissioner Smith seconded. DeAngelis abstaining. Upon a roll call vote, twice amended Resolution #PC-73-93 passed unanimously with Mayor DeAngelis abstaining. Ald. Taube gave the chair back to Chairman DeAngelis. NEW BUSINESS: Division for Harry & Mary Scholfield for Two Parcels in the SE Resolution #P.C. 86-93 -- Approval of Sketch for Land adopt, Commissioner Raimann seconded. Director Kirch stated that 1/4 of Section l.(Woods Road) Commissioner Honl made a motion to in the file their was a letter stating that sewer would be coming to this property in the future. He also stated that all the requirements are met on the Certified Survey Map. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 86-93 passed unanimously. for Harry & Mary Scholfield for Two Lots in the SE 1/4 of Resolution #P.C. 87-93 -- Approval of Certified Survey Map Section l.(Woods Road) Commissioner Smith made a motion to adopt, Ald. Taube seconded. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 87-93 passed unanimously. Ald. Taube questioned whether there is limited driveway access on Woods Road. Chairman DeAngelis explained that there is not. A resident present in the audience questioned when and where Woods Road would be widened to a four lanes. Director Kirch and Chairman DeAngelis explained that it is would be from Racine Ave. to the City limits by Hales Corners. on the Official Highway Width Map to be widened at some point. It Resolution #P.C. 88-93 -- Approval of Extraterritorial Certified Survey Map for Paul and Danette Smith in the NW 1/4 of adopt, Commissioner Raimann seconded. Upon a roll call vote, Section 3, Town of Norway. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to Resolution #P.C. 88-93 passed unanimously. for Blenda Treba for Two Parcels in the NW 1/4 of Section 8. (Hillendale Drive) Commissioner Honl made a motion to adopt, division needs MMSD approval because it will have a grinder pump. Commissioner Smith seconded. Director Kirch indicated that this Resolution #P.C. 89-93 -- Approval of Certified Survey Map Pg. 4 Plan Commission Minutes 05/04/93 He also explained that the Trebas are on a grinder pump and a meet the zoning requirements. The builder for that lot had been neighbor also is. Director Kirch indicated that the new lot does needed to build the house they want on the lot. Director Kirch in to the Planning Department and stated that a variance would be explained that the Board of Appeals would have to take action on that and not the Planning Commission. Commissioner Raimann felt variance. It is up to the property owners if they want to get one that there is no point in amending the resolution for the Commissioner Raimann. Commissioner Honl made a motion to defer, from the Board of Appeals. Commissioner Hulbert agrees with defer Resolution #P.C. 89-93 passed unanimously. Commissioner Raimann seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion to Resolution #P.C. 90-93 -- Approval of Second Garage Structure for James Minelli located at S72 W13848 Woods Road. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Smith seconded. Mr. Minelli, present in audience, explained that this second garage will match his house. It is similar to the second garage on Todd Bushberger's property across the street. used commercially. Ald. Taube questioned whether the size is the Commissioner Raimann has no problem as long as the property is not same as Mr. Bushberger's. Mr. Minelli explained that it is a be two double doors or four single doors. He also explained that four car garage and that at this time he hasn't decided if it will you won't see the doors from the road. The exterior of the garage will match his house with the side facing the road having the same exterior as his house. to read: ..... for the storage of cars and other non-commerical vehicles and ..... Commissioner Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion to amend passed unanimously. Mr. Mike Rapp, a resident, questioned the location of the second garage. Mr. Minelli explained that it would be 50' from his home to the west and the driveway would go between. Ald. Taube questioned whether the building will be 25' x 45' or 28' x 45'. Mr. Minelli explained that it would be 25' x 45'. Upon a voice vote, amended Resolution #P.C. 90-93 passed unanimously. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to amend in the third WHEREAS Resolution #P.C. 91-93 -- Approval of Sketch for Arno Tellier Subdivision in the NW 1/4 of Section 13.(Northview Drive) Commissioner Smith made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Raimann ' south of the open area at Tudor Oaks and to the southeast of the seconded. Director Kirch indicated that this property is to the Park property. Originally the petitioner wanted to have sewer be sewered from the south. Commissioner Hulbert asked if the from the north, but has found out that this property would have to petitioner had thought about a bridle path around the exterior of property is the high ground and probably where the perc tests will the properties. Mr. Tellier explained that the perimeter of the be done. Commissioner Hulbert did want Mr. Tellier to be aware that horses are not allowed on the WEPCO Path. Mr. Tellier 0 explained that he is willing to give a road dedication 'all the way to the west property line as long as it didn't make his lots Pg. 5 Plan Commission Minutes 05/04/93 nonconforming. Commissioner Raimann questioned why not bring the road to the property line then there would not be a problem in the future. Director Kirch stated that the Public Works Committee should give direction on whether the road needs to be paved to the west property line or to where the petitioner is currently proposing. Mr. Tellier stated again that he has no problem with the dedication, however he is going to have to pay to extend Northview Drive up. It has been the practice of the City to let the next developer pay for the extension. Director Kirch dead ends, so that the public is aware that it will be extended in indicated that the City of New Berlin places signs where a road THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, .... as a 60 foot dedicated right-of-way the future . Commissioner Raimann made a motion to amend in the to the west property line along with review by the Public works Committee of whether the road will be paved to the west property line,delineation ..... Commissioner Smith seconded. Upon a voice vote, the amendment passed unanimously. Mr. Eberhardt voiced concerns regarding the WEPCO easement on the west which runs north/south and the WEPCO easement just north of the property that Drive which may make the property to the west undevelopable. Upon runs east/west and thirdly about the reconfiguration of Durham a roll call vote, amended Resolution #P.C. 90-93 passed unanimously. MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS Director Kirch indicated that this month he will be revising the a committee. He felt the committee could be a citizen committee made up of a Surveyor from Muskego, a Plan Commission Representative, and some citizens. The other choice would be a sub committee from the Plan Commission. He would like to hear any input on the matter at the next meeting. Chairman DeAngelis stated that he is looking for a Sub Committee for the revision of the Sign Ordinance. He is thinking about a five member committee composed of one Plan Commission Member, one Citizen, one Rules, Laws and Ordinance Member, one Blue Chip Member, and one Chamber of Commerce Member. He would like everyone to think about this and discuss it at the next meeting. Commissioner Raimann questioned when the last time the Sign Ordinance was revised. Director Kirch indicated that it was last done in 1980. Commissioner Raimann likes the Subdivision lists that the Plan Commission has been receiving. Commissioner Raimann congratulated Commissioner Honl on his reappointment. Land Division Ordinance. The revision will need to be reviewed by ADJOURNMENT 0 p.m. and Commissioner Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote, the Commissioner Raimann made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 8:37 motion to adjourn passed unanimously. ” Pg. 6 Plan Commission Minutes 05/04/93 Respectfully submitted, Collette M. Klenz Recording Secretary cmk