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PCM19930420CITY OF MUSKEGO PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON APRIL 20, 1993 Mayor Dave DeAngelis called the meeting to order at 8:OO P.M. PRESENT: Chairman Dave DeAngelis, Darl Honl, Edward Raimann, Jerry Hulbert, Ald. Taube, Mrs. Smith and Director Dykstra. ABSENT: Director Larry Kirch(excused) MINUTES: Ald. Taube made a motion to approve the Minutes of the April 6, 1993 meeting. Commissioner Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. OLD BUSINESS: Resolution #P.C. 264-92 -- Approval of Sketch for Land Division for Three Parcels in the SE 1/4 of Section 9 for Raymond Ingold f, Charles Herbert. Mr. Ingold presented a revised sketch showing the interior lots of the proposed land division. Mr. Ingold explained that approximately 18" of property could be deeded or dedicated to the Funeral Home to allow for screening. Chairman DeAngelis questioned whether it was possible for the proposed road access to be 90 degrees to Westwood Drive rather than the configuration shown on the sketch . Ald. Taube was also uncomfortable with the angle of the proposed street where it whether the City Engineer has seen this drawing. Rich Eberhardt, intersects with Westwood Drive. Commissioner Hulbert questioned present in the audience, has not seen this sketch and is not comfortable in making any comments on it until he would have an opportunity to review it. Commissioner Hulbert questioned if the second and third lots could be serviced from an internal road rather than from Westwood Drive. Director Dykstra indicated that Westwood Drive for the lots. Commissioner Hulbert asked if it the stubs for the sewer are already located in the road along would be possible not to use those existing stubs and use ones possibly could be added cost. Ald. Taube questioned what would from an internal road. Director Dykstra indicated that there become of the back outlot in the future. Mr. Ingold explained that this would become part of this property that abuts Janesville Road and he may someday in the future tear down his existing house and build his business in the back. Mr. Ingold also suggested the possibility of a pedestrian path and a small park area in the back of these lots. The path and small park area would become part of a Homeowners Association. The Homeowners Association would maintain those areas. Chairman DeAngelis questioned whether Mr. Ingold was aware that he would have to rezone this property was aware of the rezoning, but he wanted to be sure that the Plan in order to obtain the lot layout he was presenting. Mr. Ingold rezoning. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to amend Resolution Commission would be receptive to the proposed layout prior to any Pg. 2 Plan Commission Minutes 04/20/93 #P.C. 264-92 by adding a BE IT RESOLVED, That the Plan Commission 0 will be receptive to a revised sketch with the following items: 1. A Plan showing screening or buffering between the existing Funeral Home and the road right-of-way. 2. The Developer explores the idea of the two northern most lots along Westwood Drive having their access to an internal road instead of Westwood Drive. proposed road configuration and the lot layout. Commissioner Honl seconded. upon a roll call vote, the amendment passed unanimously. Mr. Ingold questioned whether it would be possible for him to submit a Certified Survey Map of only the lot furthest south. The Plan Commissioners agreed that they would be receptive to that. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to defer, Commissioner Honl seconded. Upon a roll call vote, amended Resolution #P.C. 264-92 passed unanimously. 3. A recommendation from the City Engineer regarding the I Resolution #P.C. 29-93 -- Approval of Certified Survey Map for Marc Addis for Four Lots in the NW 1/4 of Section 34 (Muskego Dam Drive). Deferred from 04/06/93 meeting. Director Dykstra explained that the revised Certified Survey Map that was received on April 20, 1993 reflected some of the corrections requested by the City Engineer, but not all of them. Rich Eberhardt expressed lnterest that he would like to review the revised Certified Survey Map since he only had a few brief minutes prior to this meeting. Mr. Eberhardt did indicated that the following items have not yet been addressed: the adjacent remnant parcel located to the west is still not shown on the Certified Survey Map, the curve data does not appear to have been changed , and the lot configuration has changed greatly compared to the original (submittal) Certified Survey Map. Mr. Eberhardt also indicated that the wetlands are now shown on the Certified Survey Map. The revised Certified Survey Map also appears to be showing 75' not 100' of road right-of-way for Muskego Dam Road as previously shown on the original Certified Survey Map. Director Dykstra stated that approval must be given by the Army Corps, the DNR and the City of Muskego to fill the wetlands to allow for an egress/ingress through them. Chairman DeAngelis questioned why the existing septic system for lot 4 is not shown on the Certified Survey Map. Upon further discussion, Commissioner Honl made a motion to amend Resolution #P.C. 29-93 in the THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, ...... favorable perc tests, a note showing the existing septic system on Lot 4 be placed on the Certified Survey map and payment ...... and to add a BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That the Plan Commission would like further direction from the City Engineer regarding the reconfiguration of the lots and the curve data, and that any necessary permits for the filling of wetlande be obtained from the DNR, Army Corps, and the City of Muskego. Ald. Taube unanimously. Commissioner Honl made a motion to defer , Ald. 0. seconded. Upon a roll call vote, the amendment passed Pg. 3 Plan Commission Minutes 04/20/93 Taube seconded. Upon a roll call vote, the motion to defer amended Resolution #P.C. 26-93 passed unanimously. At this time Chairman DeAngelis gave Ald. Taube the floor asking him to be Temporary Chairman due to possible conflict of interest on the next two Resolutions. Plat for the Lutsch Property C/O Shirley Krahn in the NE 1/4 of Resolution #P.C. 43-93 -- Approval of Sketch for Preliminary Section 11 (Woods Road and Freedom Ave.). Deferred from 04/06/93 meeting. Ald. Taube explained what had previously happened with these items. Commissioner Hulbert indicated that the previous offer for Lot 11 and that the Park Board nor himself have any evening the Park Board and the Petitioner had come to an agreeable objection to the lot layout. Mr. Stan Potrykus, present in audience, indicated that approximately 100' would be taken from Lot 6 and added to Lot 11 to the extreme north end of the property. Ald. Taube questioned whether Lot 5 & 6 should share a driveway and whether Lots 7 & 4 should have any screening along their driveways. Mr. Potrykus indicated that the City's Ordinance does not allow a shared driveway, and that the Board of Appeals would have to grant a variance to allow a shared driveway. Director Dykstra explained that any driveway must be 3' from the when a hardship can be proved. Commissioner Raimann indicated lot line and that the Board of Appeals only grants the variances that the Plan Commission has requested dust control by having a hard surface driveway, but hasn't requested much screening except in certain instances. Commissioner Hulbert recommends that a shared hard surface driveway for Lots 5 & 6 be noted in the minutes. Commissioner Smith made a motion to amend Resolution #P.C. 43-93 by adding BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That the revised eketch dated 4-20-93 be corrected showing the new lot line between vote, the amendment passed 5-0-1 with Mayor DeAngelis abstaining. lots 6 and 11. Commissioner Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll call with Mayor DeAngelis abstaining. Upon a roll call vote, amended Resolution #P.C. 43-93 passed 5-0-1 RESOLUTION #P.C. 73-93 -- Approval of Legal Lot status for the DeAngelis Property located at ,564 W18874 & S64 W18868 School Drive. Deferred from 04/06/93 meeting. Ald. Schneider, present in audience, asking if he could be allowed the time to walk the back property and have further time to discuss this with other affected neighbors. Ald. Schneider also questioned why Mr. DeAngelis would want to risk land locking that back parcel if the DNR does not give their approval. Ald. Taube is uncomfortable with this and is surprised that the petitioner is requesting this with access from Gold Drive. Mr. Potrykus indicated that Mr. DeAngelis is stuck with the back piece, this is contingent on DNR approval, but he doesn't feel there will be a problem. He explained that it is the petitioners intent to only create 2 lots not 3 lots. Ms. Debbie Young, resident, stated that this is not sweat and tears. When she first purchased her property she was just a land division, but their lives, their futures, their blood, told that this property was unbuildable. That is why they moved Pg. 4 Plan Commission Minutes 04/20/93 done to bring a driveway from Gold Drive to the property. there. Mr. Potrykus indicated that minimal filling may have to be . Approximately 2' to 2 1/2 ' of fill at the maximum. Director Dykstra indicated that with an egress/ingress to an existing parcel located in the Floodfringe the ordinance has a provision to allow a drive to be located below the flood elevation with several restrictions, one of which is with written approval from velocities. Ald. Taube felt that the impact would be less if the fire and emergency personal, and stating maximum depth and two lots were in the back. Mr. Potrykus indicated that the 60' lot would be consistent with the existing homes. Ald. Schneider requested time to discuss this matter with the residents. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to defer, Commissioner Smith with Mayor DeAngelis abstaining. seconded. Upon a roll call vote, the motion to defer passed 5-0-1 1 NEW BUSINESS: Division for Joseph A. Santi for Two Parcels in the SE 1/4 of Resolution #P.C. 79-93 -- Approval of Sketch for Land I Section 17. (Extension of Enterprise Drive) Commissioner Honl made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Smith seconded. Ald. Taube questioned whether Mr. Santi's building would be effected by the would not. Mr. Potrykus indicated that all of the items listed on 100 year flood. Mr. Santi, present in audience, indicated that it Ruekert & Mielke report have been addressed. Ald. Taube a motion RESOLVED, .... for Joseph A. Santi subject to approval by the City Engineer. Commissioner Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll call vote, the amendment passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote, amended Resolution #P.C. 79-93 passed unanimously. 0 to amend the Resolution to read in THEREFORE BE IT for Joseph A. Santi for Two Parcels in the SE 1/4 of Section 17. Resolution #P.C. 80-93 -- Approval of Certified Survey Map Commissioner Raimann made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Hulbert seconded. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to amend the Resolution to read in THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, .... for Joseph A. Santi subject to approval by the City Engineer. Ald. Taube seconded. Upon a voice vote, the amendment passed. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to defer., Ald. Taube seconded. Upon a roll call vote, amended Resolution #P.C. 80-93 passed unanimously. Dredge Material from Wind Lake on the George Steinhaus property Resolution #P.C. 81-93 -- Approval of Land Spreading of Tax Key #2296.998 in the SE 1/4 of Section 34 by Kathy Aron - Wind Lake Management District and RUST Environment & Infrastructure Inc. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Smith seconded. Mr. Bob Carr, a representative from RUST Environment District, were both present. Mr. Carr stated that originally & Infrastructure Inc., and Ms. Kathy Aron, Wind Lake Management however only one site is still available due to delays in they were going to use 2 sites located in the Town of Norway, Pg. 5 Plan Commission Minutes 04/20/93 obtaining the DNR approvals. The DNR has approved this project. There will be approximately 3"-6" depth of dredging material plced on Mr. Steinhaus property. Mr. Carr indicated that the contractor will be placing silt fencing around the perimeter and using hay bails if necessary due to excessive runoff. This is per the WPDS permit. The mix of water and solids is 50-50. The Steinhaus property is approximately 1 1/2 miles from where the dredging is taking place. The dredge material is primarily made of sand, clay, nitrogen and phosphorous. It will be transported the land. Ald. Taube made a motion to amend the resolution by in a sealed truck, emptied onto the property and then spread into removing BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED the entire paragraph. Commissioner Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote, the amendment passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote, amended resolution #P.C. 81-93 passed unanimously. Resolution #P.C. 82-93 -- Approval of Building, Site and Operation Plan for Raab Investments by Venture Development in the Muskego Business/Industrial Park. Commissioner Raimann made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Honl seconded. Mr. Roger Dibble, would not be present due to the a death in the family. Chairman representative from Venture Development, indicated that Mr. Raab DeAngelis questioned whether the petitioner had received all of the approvals of the industrial park tenants regarding the reduced received all of the approvals. Mr. Dibble indicated that Mr. setback proposed. Mr. Dibble is unaware of whether Mr. Raab has Raab would be coming in at a later date for signage approval. will be 10' masonry block and from 10' to the roof it will be a metal panel. This building will be similar to the other Raab buildings in the Industrial Park. The masonry block will be painted a light gray and the metal will be a medium gray. Ald. Taube questioned why they were not using a colored brick. Mr. Dibble indicated that the water proofing in a colored block doesn't hold up as well as when you paint the block. Chairman DeAngelis explained that the cross access easement will guarantee that the common driveway between the three Raab buildings will always service all three buildings no matter the ownership of the buildings. Ald. Taube made a motion to amend in the THEREFORE BE Commission for approval prior to any signage being installed. IT RESOLVED, .... subject to submittal of signage plans to the Plan and in the second WHEREAS to read .... building elevations, landscape plan, lighting plan and grading plan but did not include a signage plan, and. Commissioner Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote, the amendment passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote, amended Resolution #P.C. 82-93 passed unanimously. When the tenants start moving in. He explained that the building for Mooney LeSage Group (MLG) Located at the Lake Forest Commercial Site on the NW Corner of Janesville Road and Racine Avenue. Commissioner Smith made a motion to adopt, Commissioner 0 Hulbert seconded. Ald. Taube questioned what the initials KDDT Resolution #P.C. 83-93 -- Approval of Two Temporary Signs Pg. 6 Plan Commission Minutes 04/20/93 stood for. No one present knew what they stood for. Upon a roll call vote, Resolution #P.C. 83-93 passed unanimously. for Wayne ti Jordan Kopac for Three Parcels (3) in the SW 1/4 of Section 26. Commissioner Honl made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Smith seconded. Ald. Taube questioned the present motion to amend in BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, ... west of Thode Drive, zoning. Director Dykstra explained the zoning. Ald. Taube made a the mound locations to be shown on the Certified Survey Map ........ Commissioner Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote, the amendment passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote, amended Resolution #P.C. 84-93 passed unanimously. Resolution #P.C. 84-93 -- Approval of Certified Survey Map Resolution #P.C. 85-93 -- Re-Approval of Preliminary Plat for Plum Creek Addition #1 and Plum Creek East in the SE and 1/4 Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to adopt, Commissioner Raimann previously occurred. He explained that they have had a HEC 2 seconded. Mr. Bill Carity was present to explain what has Study done on this property and the floodplain boundaries vary greatly from the boundaries shown by FEMA. R A Smith conducted the computer analysis of this property. Mr. Dykstra explained that the City's Floodplain boundaries are determined by the City's the Topographic maps done in the early 1970's. Mr. Carity FEMA maps which were done in the late 1970's in conjunction with realizes that they will need to rezone the property to move the Floodplain line. This will remove all of the 20 or 22 affected lots from the floodplain. He further explained that there was a mlnlmal reconfiguration of lots, the lots were adjusted to stay outside of the line where HEC Study proposes the Floodline to be relocated to, yet maintain the average width and square footage required. The average width was 90' to 110'. The Plan Commissioners were concerned whether the proposed outlot on Woods Road was used when averaging the minimum lot size and width requirement. Mr. Carity was unsure whether the 77,000 sq ft outlot labeled future lot was included in determining the average at no time in the future would this lot be divided. Commissioner lot size and width, however Mr. Carity went on record saying that Hulbert questioned whether the pedestrian trail/path still goes across the creek. Mr. Carity explained that it still will go over the culvert to the other street and be hard surfaced. Mr. Carity explained that they need either sketch or preliminary plat approval in order to get DNR approval. Commissioner Hulbert made a motion to amend Resolution #P.C. 85-93 in THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, ...... of February 3, 1993, rezoning the property out of the Floodplain, maintaining the same required average lot width and size, appropriate approvals received from the DNR, SEWRPC, FEMA , and the City Engineer and verification of a HEC 2 Study. Commissioner Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote, the amendment passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote, amended Resolution #P.C.85-93 passed 5-1 with Ald. Taube voting no. a .. MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS Pg. 7 Plan Commission Minutes 04/20/93 The Plan Secretary informed the Commissioners of the letter that Director Kirch mailed to Salentine Car Dealership. Rich Eberhardt explained that the Waukesha County recognizes land divisions that are separated by roads, creeks, rivers, lakes. Director Dykstra explained that the Zoning Ordinance and the Land Division Ordinance needs to be looked at to ensure compliance with Kirch to look into this matter. current accepted practices. The Commissioners would like Director ADJOURNMENT Commissioner Honl made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 11:OO motion to adjourn passed unanimously. p.m. and Commissioner Raimann seconded. Upon a voice vote, the Respectfully submitted, Collette M. Klenz Recording Secretary J cmk