PCM199207070 CITY OF MUSKEG0
PLAN COMMISSION
MINUTES OF JULY I, 1992
SPECIAL MEETING TO DISCUSS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
PRESENT:
Mayor Wayne G. Salentine, Edward Raimann, Alderman David Taube,
Darl Honl, Traci Smith, Jerald Hulbert, David DeAngelis, and
Lawrence Kirch, Director of Planning.
ABSENT: No one.
Chairman Salentine called the meeting to order at 6:30 PM.
MINUTES :
Mr. Honl made a motion to approve the minutes of the Public
Hearing held on June 30, 1992. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a
voice vote, the motion to adopt the minutes passed unanimously.
Comprehensive Land Use Plan as discussed at the Public Hearing
The purpose of this special meeting was to discuss the
held on June 30, 1992.
Chairman Salentine recognized Mr. and Mrs. Santi and requested
Plan would rezone a parcel of land near the Industrial Park,
they explain their desires to the Plan Commission. The Land Use
presently zoned RS-2, to 1-1. Mr. Santi is requesting that a
portion of the parcel retain the RS-2 zoning to allow him to place
purchase of it. He would like to have 3 1/2 acres of the 8-acre
a residence and a machine shop on the same parcel following his
parcel zoned RS-2 for his residence and the remainder would be
zoned 1-1 for machine shop use.
Mayor Salentine informed the Commission that they need to reach
some decision this evening as this matter is going before the
Finance Committee on Wednesday (July 8) night. He also stated
that Mr. and Mrs. Santi are working with a two-month time frame.
The city attorney has advised Mayor Salentine that there would be
no problem with the Plan Commission agreeing to allow the Santis
to petition for rezoning since they are not requesting a land
division. There was concern raised that this would create “spot
zoning. ‘I
There was discussion regarding the size and type of the proposed
Salentine stated that Mr. Santi would need site plan approval that
industrial buildings, access driveways, asphalting, etc. Chairman
would address these matters.
property. Mr. Harold DeBack requested that the deed restrictions
There was also concern regarding a future land division of this
Many of the Plan Commission members agreed.
0 stipulate that this parcel could not be divided in the future.
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Mr. Honl moved for adoption to allow the Santis to petition for
rezoning and to have a statement recorded with the deed
restrictions stipulating that this parcel could not be divided in
the future. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll call vote, all
members were in favor, except for Alderman Taube.
Mr. Honl made a motion to adopt the legal opinion from Attorney
Molter regarding the Krause property, south of Highway 36,
DeAngelis seconded. Upon a voice vote, all members were in favor,
(commercial site) as outlined in the Comprehensive Plan. Mr.
except Alderman Taube who voiced his opposition.
Avenues. A parcel in that area is recommended for B-4 with the
The next item discussed was the area of College and Racine
possibility that it be changed to RSM. Subsidized senior housing
is proposed for this area. If the zoning is changed, there is no
guarantee it would have to be used for senior housing. Chairman
Salentine expressed concern about the use if the zoning is
changed, as well as various members of the Plan Commission. They
would like a guarantee that this would be used for senior
Mr. Kirch will discuss with the city attorney to obtain legal
housing. It was uncertain'how that guarantee could be achieved.
opinion regarding this matter.
With the one-half hour time period allotted for the special
meeting coming to an end, Chairman Salentine declared the special
meeting of the Plan Commission concluded.
Respectfully submitted,
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Jill Blenski
Recording Secretary
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CITY OF MUSKEG0
MINUTES OF JULY 7, 1992 MEETING
PLAN COMMISSION
PRESENT:
Mavor Wavne Salentine. Edward Raimann. Alderman David Taube. Darl
Honl, Trici Smith, Jerald Hulbert, David DeAngelis, and Lawrence
Kirch, Director of Planning.
ABSENT: No one.
Chairman Salentine called the meeting to order at 7:OO PM.
MINUTES:
Mr. Honl made a motion to approve the minutes of the June 16,
correction should be made to the minutes. Under Resolution #P.C.
1992 meeting and Mr. Raimann seconded. Mr. DeAngelis noted a
130-92 (Page 2), the minutes stated that, “No one was present in
was present. The minutes of the June 16 meeting will be amended
the audience for discussion.“ It was noted that the petitioner
to reflect this. Upon a voice vote the motion to adopt the
minutes as amended passed unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS:
division for Buckv Lowe at W208 58151 Hillendale Drive, NE 1/4 of
Resolution #P.C. 34-92 -- Approval of sketch for land - Section 18. ~~ ~
division for Larry Schmidt at W208 S8285 Hillendale Drive, NE 1/4
Resolution #P.C. 45-92 -- Approval of sketch for land
of Section 18.
Chairman Salentine stated that these two resolutions had been
deferred from previous meetings. Mr. Larry Schmidt was present.
He believes the development would be beneficial to the city. The
Common Council is not in favor of extending the sewer service area
to encompass the entire area of the developments. The front 400’
of each development would have access to sewer. If the RS-1
zoning remains, the lot sizes will have to be 30,000 to 60,000
square feet depending on if they are sewered. Mr. Schmidt would
like the area to be rezoned to RS-2 and have the sewers extended.
Since the Comprehensive Plan has not been finalized, and Mr.
Schmidt is not in a hurry, it was suggested that both of the
sketches be deferred for 90 days. Mr. Honl made a motion to
defer. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote, a motion to
defer Resolutions #P.C. 34-92 and #P.C. 45-92 for 90 days passed
unanimously.
Automotive at ,581 W18510 Gemini Drive. Petitioner has requested
Resolution #P.C. 89-92 -- Approval of sign for Muskego
this be deferred until July 21, 1992.
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Resolution #P.C. 135-92 -- Approval of preliminary plat for
Champions Village in Country Club Villages for Scott KXauSe in the
NW 1/4 Of Section 25. Mr. Kirch distributed a revised plat. He
stated that he determined a total number of units - 821 - for
Country Club Villages. He further explained how he determined
this number. The area is comprised of various zoning districts.
Mr. Kirch explained how many acres were in each zoning district,
and how many units that zoning allows. Attorney Sodos,
representing Mr. Krause at the meeting, disagrees with that
number. He believes more units could be allowed. There was
concern raised regarding the separate ownership of the golf course
open space, the homeowners will not have control of it, yet it is
(open space) and the villages. With another entity owning the
an integral part of the entire project. Attorney Sodos stated
that this will be in the deed restrictions. The preliminary plat
is for the entire project. At the present time, they are
requesting approval only for the area shown in yellow (per map
shown by Mr. Sodos). There was discussion regarding the traffic
burden the development could possibly place on Ryan Road.
Attorney Sodos stated that most of the traffic should be diverted
to Highway 36. Commissioner Honl does not like the size of the
lots. They are too small. He made a motion to amend the
resolution to state that the "minimum" lot size cannot be less
than 15,000 square feet. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Mr. Honl changed
withdrew his second. Mr. Raimann seconded. Upon further
the word "minimum" lot size to "average" lot size. Mr. Hulbert
discussion of the lot size, Alderman Taube made a motion to amend
the amendment to change the "average" lot size to "minimum" lot
size be 15,000 square feet, to include that the front lot width
must be at least loo', except if the lot is on a cul de sac. The
open space cannot be included in calculating the square footage of
the lots. Mr. Hulbert seconded. A roll call vote was taken with
Chairman Salentine, Mr. Raimann, Mr. Honl, and Mr. DeAngelis
voting no. Mr. Hulbert, Alderman Taube, and Mrs. Smith voted in
favor. After further discussion, Mr. Honl called for the
question. A roll call vote was taken, with everyone, except
Chairman Salentine, voting yes. It was apparent that various
items. needed to be worked out. Mr. Kirch stated that the
Wisconsin Department of Transportation needed to see the entire
development. He would like to have a report from that agency to
review. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to defer. Alderman Taube
seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion to defer Resolution #P.C.
135-92 passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS:
deed restrictions for Lake Forest Addition #2 in the SW 1/4 of
Resolution #P.C. 148-92 -- Approval of final plat and
Section 8. Mr. Raimann made a motion to adopt. Mr. Honl
seconded. Alderman Taube made a motion to amend the Declaration
of Deed Restrictions changing some of the percentages on pages 4
more control going to the Homeowner's Association. A few
and 5. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Alderman Taube would like to see
residents of Lake Forest were present. Mr. Ray Jachimiec stated
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that the developer still has sole architectural control, despite
the creation of a Homeowner's Association. Mr. Carity,
representing Terra Development, addressed the Plan Commission. He
opposes changes being made to the deed restrictions for the final
phase. These deed restrictions are the same as for the other
phases. The entire development will be governed by this final
declaration of restrictions. Mr. Patch stated a meeting will take
problems. Two residents will sit on the three panel board, giving
place with Terra and the Homeowner's Association to address any
the residents a voting majority. Deferring approval of these deed
restrictions will not change anything. Chairman Salentine called
motion to amend did not pass. Alderman Taube was the only member
for a vote on the motion to amend. Upon a roll call vote, the
voting in favor. Mr. Kirch did point out that two street names
needed to be changed on the final plat: Prospect should be
Monterey and Parkland should be Burningwood. The developers
agreed. Upon a roll call vote, the motion to adopt the resolution
passed by a vote of 6 to 1, with Alderman Taube voting against.
Plum Creek in the SE 1/4 of Section 17. Mr. Hulbert made a motion
Resolution #P.C. 149-92 -- Approval of preliminary plat for
whether or not only Phase I of the Preliminary Plat should be
to adopt. Mr. DeAngelis seconded. Discussion took place as to
approved at this time. Mr. Kirch informed the Commission if any
concerns exist or any changes are to be made, it should be done at
this stage. Mr. Carity and Mr. Patch, both present, requested
plats could be brought back for approval in stages. Mr. DeBack
approval of the entire plat. Mr. Patch suggested that the final
stated that his attorney will not allow him to grant the easement
unless the preliminary plat is approved. Alderman Sanders spoke
of the path on the easement having a suitable base. Upon a roll
call vote, the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
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Resolution #P.C. 150-92 Approval of Certified Survey Map
for Plum Creek in the SE 1/4 of Section 17. Mr. Honl made a motion
to adopt. Mrs. Smith seconded. There was discussion about the
four lots created by the certified survey map being brought into
the Homeowner's Association. Mr. Raimann made a motion to amend
the resolution to incorporate the necessary language to the CSM to
Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion to amend the
indicate these lots are included in the deed restrictions. Mr.
resolution passed unanimously. There was further discussion about
and Mr. Patch, had no recollection of that specific amount.
$10,000 being paid to the Park Board. The developers, Mr. Carity
Chairman Salentine and Mr. Hulbert did recall the $10,000 figure
presented minutes from a Park and Recreation Board meeting
being discussed at a previous Plan Commission meeting. Mr. Kirch
Commission minutes will be researched to clarify this matter.
indicating the $10,000 amount was to be paid. Previous Plan
Upon a roll call vote, the motion to adopt the resolution as
0 amended passed unanimously.
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Resolution #P.C. 151-92 -- Approval of outbuilding plan for
Joanne Gillespie in the SE 1/4 of Section 7 (Field Drive).
Alderman Taube moved for adoption. Mr. Hulbert seconded.
Mrs. Gillespie stated the outbuilding will be the same type as the
barn that exists on the property now. It will be used for her
nursery operation. Chairman Salentine requested Mr. Kirch to give
a brief description of the type of operation Mrs. Gillespie runs.
Mrs. Gillespie has 16.9 acres of land. Muskego Zoning regulations
allow for a "farm" type operation to exist on any property over 10
acres. Hired hands can be employed. Mrs. Gillespie's nursery
operation qualifies as a "farm" type operation. She usually does
not have customers come to her. Upon a roll call vote, the motion
to adopt passed unanimously.
Chairman Salentine called a short recess at 9:30 P.M.
The Plan Commission reconvened at 9:45 P.M.
division for Elke Rae in the NW 1/4 of Section 14 (Mystic Drive).
Mr. Raimann moved for adoption. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Mr. Kirch
recommended changing the Resolution to include the wording, "Lot
number three will be required to have access restricted to Foxboro
WHEREAS to be included in the BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED paragraph.
Place as well as a vision corner restriction" from the last
Mrs. Smith made a motion to amend the Resolution. Mr. DeAngelis
seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion to amend passed
unanimously. Upon a roll call vote, the motion to adopt the
resolution as amended passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 152-92 -- Approval of sketch for land
Point Estates West Addition No. 1 Subdivision in the SW 1/4 of
Resolution #P.C. 153-92 -- Approval of sketch for Lake
Section 10. Mrs. Smith moved for adoption. Mr. Hulbert seconded.
General discussion took place. Mr. Stan Potrykus was present and
spoke about the ponds. Alderman Taube was concerned about the
road running through plat (identified by Mr. Kirch as Bridgeport
Way) being used as a throughway. Alderman Taube made a motion to
change Bridgeport Way. Not seconded. Mr. Hulbert was concerned
with condition No. 3 of the resolution. He made a motion to amend
the resolution to delete the present wording of No. 3 to change
the wording of condition No 3. to read, "there be a dedicated
right of way along Lannon Road from south of Lake Ridge Apts. to
DeAngelis seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion to amend passed
the WEPCO right-of-way to provide access to the bike path." Mr.
unanimously. Upon a roll call vote, the motion to adopt the
resolution as amended passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 154-92 -- Approval of signage for Muskego
Center off Janesville Road for the C. V. Zillig Company. Mr. Honl
moved for adoption. Mr. Raimann seconded. Mr. Zillig appeared
before the Commission. He first spoke about the individual signs
for the tenant spaces. He stated the signage for the center will
be very similar to that at Lincoln Point. The sign colors may
vary depending on if the tenant has a national affiliation. All
non-national tenants will be encouraged to use red. Mr. Zillig
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will have to review signage. Mr. Hulbert stated that he is in
favor of the uniformity. Mr. Kirch recommended that Mr. Zillig's
letter of July 1, 1992 could be attached to the Resolution as a
reference for Mr. Dykstra to use when issuing the sign permits for
the individual tenants.
Regarding the larger sign for the center. Mr. Zillig is
requesting to remove the existing pylon. A new pylon will be
erected in the same location providing three signs: one for Pick
'N Save, one for Walgreens, and one for future use. He is
requesting that two lines of changeable letters be allowed under
the lettering for Pick 'N Save and Walgreens to be used for
advertising purposes. The letters will be red. The Commission
was shown what the proposed sign would look like. The proposed
which is 15'. Several members expressed disapproval of the reader sign would be about 17' in height as opposed to the existing sign
board lines. Mr. Raimann moved to amend the resolution, not
allowing the changeable reader board lines. Mrs. Smith seconded.
Upon a roll call vote, the motion to amend the resolution passed
unanimously. Chairman Salentine requested Mr. Zillig bring the
Commission up to date on the widening of Lannon Drive. Upon a
roll call vote, the motion to adopt the resolution as amended
passed unanimously.
Site, and Oueration Plan - Stonev Creek. Chairman Salentine
Resolution #P.C. 155-92 -- Approval of amended Building,
stated this- item was being removed from the agenda.
Resolution #P.C. 156-92 -- Disapproval of Amended Site Plan
for Bay Breeze Condominiums to relocate the tennis courts. Mr.
Honl moved for adoption. Mrs. Smith seconded. Mr. Norbert Yates
majority of those people who responded desire to have a tennis
spoke on behalf of the residents. A survey conducted indicates a
court. It is agreed that the Janesville Road site is not the
appropriate place for the tennis courts to be located. Mr. Yates
asked the Plan Commission for alternative locations. Mr.
Ingersoll is looking for direction from the members. Will an
alternative type of recreation be acceptable to the Plan
Commission? Several of the members did not have a problem with
an alternative type of recreation being provided as long as it was
something of equal value. Alderman Taube believes the tennis
courts should be provided. Mr. Luther Sander, a resident of Bay
Breeze, agreed. It was a selling point when he purchased his
condo. Mrs. Smith asked about the area near Park Drive. Some
residents were opposed in the past. Mr. DeAngelis suggested that
be looked at again. If the tennis courts were to be located at
since there are several new people living there now, that location
that site, a Public Hearing would be held. A variance may also be
needed from the Board of Appeals. Mr. Hulbert stated that the
courts could be located off the Bay Breeze site. He has discussed
property. The Plan Commission would like to see this matter the possibility of the courts being placed on Muskego Elementary
worked out between the homeowners and the the developer. Mr. Honl
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made a motion to defer. Alderman Taube seconded. Upon a voice
vote, the motion to defer passed unanimously. 0
Final Plat for Day Break Subdivision - Town of Norway. Mr.
Resolution #P.C. 157-92 -- Approval of Extraterritorial
DeAngelis made a motion to adopt. Mr. Raimann seconded. Upon a
roll call vote, the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
division in the NE 1/4 of Section 1 for Bonnie Lemke (KiDlinq and
Resolution #P.C. 158-92 -- Approval of sketch for land
Janesville). Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption. Mrs. Smith
seconded. Mr. Kirch stated that his office received a letter from
Waukesha Co. Department of Transportation as called for in the
resolution. Upon a roll call vote, the motion to adopt passed
unanimously.
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Silver Bullet Tavern at 576 W17957 Janesville Road. Mrs. Smith
Resolution #P.C. 159-92 -- Approval of wall sign for the
moved for adoption. Mr. Raimann seconded. There was discussion
regarding the signage already granted for this site. Since Ms.
members were not in favor of the reader board signage Ms. Xarras
Karras was not present, Mr. Kirch spoke on her behalf. The
was requesting. It was decided that Ms. Karras should be given
the opportunity to come back in two weeks with a new sketch. Mr.
Raimann made a motion to defer. Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a voice
vote, the motion to defer passed unanimously. 0
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS:
Discussion took place regarding Lakewood Meadows.
Some discussion also took place regarding Mr. Krause's
development. Mr. Kirch spoke about the exact number of units that
will be allowed. His original figure may be changed. He will
refigure.
Chairman Salentine requested that the concerns addressed at the
Public Hearing to discuss the Comprehensive Plan be outlined. Mr.
Kirch will present the public comments in a condensed form.
ADJOURNMENT:
Mr. Honl made a motion to adjourn at 11:20 P.M. and Mr. Hulbert
seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion to adjourn passed
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Recording Secretary
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