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PCM19920421CITY OF MUSKEGO PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES OF APRIL 21, 1992 MEETING PRESENT: Mayor Wayne G. Salentine, Mr. Edward Raimann, Ald. Dave Taube, Mr. Darl Honl, Mr. Jack Schmidt, Traci Smith and Lawrence Kirch, Director of Planning. ABSENT: Jerald Hulbert was excused. Chairman Salentine called the meeting to order at 8:15 PM. He welcomed Ald. Taube to the Plan Commission. MINUTES : Mr. Schmidt made a motion to approve the Minutes of the April 7, 1992, Meeting and Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote, the motion to approve the minutes passed unanimously. OLD BUSINESS: m Buckv Lowe. W208 S8151 Hillendale Drive, NE 1/4 of Section 18. Resolution #P.C. 34-92--Approval of land division sketch for - DEFERRED TO JUNE 2, 1992 PLAN COMMISSION MEETING division (subdivision) at W208 58285 Hillendale Drive for Larry Resolution #P.C. 45-92" Approval of sketch for land Schmidt. 'DEFERRED TO'JUNE 2, 1992 PLAN COMMISSION MEETING - NEW BUSINESS: Resolution #P.C. 76-92 -- Approval of amendment to Conditional Use Grant #94 at S66 W14427 Janesville Road for retail boat sales by John Ingersoll. Mr. Raimann moved for adoption and Mr. Honl seconded. Discussion followed concerning the operation be part of the business? Mr. Kirch responded the applicant's of the business. Mr. Schmidt asked if the truck repair will still the conditional use grant. Mr. Dale Kreil would like to lease the intent is to try to maintain that, but they want to try to clarify building with the understanding that if he left it would be able to be used for the original use as stated in the original conditional use grant. Chairman Salentine said there seems to be some conflict with truck repair hours 6 AM to 12 midnight. Also, it was suggested that under Therefore Be It Resolved, #l. add the words "limited to one business while the boat sales are in operation." Mr. Ingersoll sent a letter dated April 15, 1992 stating "as long as Dale is operating his business at the above location, I will not operate any business at this location. of this property, I will inform him that he must first obtain Should I be informed by Dale that he wishes to sublet any portion permission from the Plan Commission, prior to attempting to obtain 0 2 Plan Commission Meeting April 21, 1992 my permission to any subletting." This letter would not be recorded with the Waukesha County Register of Deeds, but be placed on file. Mr. Honl made a motion to amend the resolution to state in the Therefore Be It Further Resolved, #1, add the words Mr. Schmidt seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend the "limited to one business while the boat sales are in operation." resolution passed unanimously. Ald. Taube asked for further clarification of this amendment. Mr. Kirch responded explaining the intent. Mr. Honl brought up the question of overnight parking of boats near the setback line. The setback should be identified. Ald. Simmons was present and questioned the setback area. Mr. Kirch said the intent was to have the boats where the trucks are now. Ald. Taube would like to see a walkway next to maybe the setback should be 5'. Mr. Raimann asked that the Plan the curb and felt there was only 25' setback to begin with, so Commission request Mr. Kirch to establish the setback from the curb based on the amount of land between the building and fence and the curb. Mr. Schmidt made a motion to amend the resolution to state "Be It Further Resolved, That the amount of land needed to establish the setback from the curb be determined by the Director of Planning forthe purpose of parking boats." Mrs. unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the twice Smith seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend passed amended resolution passed unanimously. paving requirements for Michael Fischer at 566 W14543 Janesville Resolution #P.c. 77-92 -- Approval of resolution clarifying Road. Chairman Salentine requested discussion first. Mr. Honl was concerned that asphalt could cause run-off problems toward the creek more than gravel. Mr. Kirch felt the portion just outside Mr. Dale Kreil, who is content to sell boats from the Ingersoll's the door should be asphalted, then graveled. He has spoken with area and set-up the boats at this location. The fence has been constructed with slats, which is in compliance. The dust problem would be addressed if there were complaints about the business. In the past, the neighbors were concerned about the parking. There was more discussion about the paving and it was decided to have Larry Kirch go to the site to check the area for adequate drainage. Mr. Honl made a motion to adopt and Mr. Schmidt seconded to get the resolution on the floor. Ald. Taube questioned what type of stone would be used if graveled. Mr. Schmidt said it should be conducive to either sealcoating or paving in the future. Mr. Schmidt made a motion to defer this resolution to enable the Director of Planning to inspect the site and report back to the Plan Commission at the next meeting and Mr. Raimann seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to defer passed unanimously. Resolution #P.C. 78-92 -- Approval of two temporary signs of Wentland Drive, on the north side, and immediately to the east for Habitat for Humanity-Waukesha County/Muskego Group on west end adoption and Mrs. Smith seconded. The Recording Secretary passed of the Irish Springhouse tavern site. Mr. Schmidt moved for around additional pictures of signs Habitat for Humanity has used 3 Plan Commission Meeting April 21, 1992 signs on the picture. It appeared to be too high. The signs must for other sites. Mr. Honl questioned the height of one of the be erected in a manner compatible with the residential area they are in. Mr. Kirch said the code states the height of signs for temporary signs is at the discretion of the Plan Commission. Mr. Schmidt made a motion to amend the resolution to state: Be It Further Resolved, That the top of the two temporary signs shall not be more than 8' above the ground surface." Ald. Taube seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend the resolution passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the amended resolution passed unanimously. Resolution #P.C. 19-92 -- Approval of second garage Mr. Raimann moved for adoption and Mr. Honl seconded. Chairman structure for Eric Metz at W208 S6797 High Bluff Drive (off Tans). Salentine asked if the petitioner was in the audience? Mr. Metz was and explained his request. Mr. Kirch said he was out at the site and said the house was built like a bi-level with the pool in the hillside. The Recording Secretary said all neighbors had been notified and no one contacted the office with any objections. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. certified survey map for James Kleist in the NE 1/4 of Section 18, Town of Norway. Mrs. Smith made a motion to adopt and Mr. Schmidt representative, who said he gave Mr. Kleist an easement for a seconded. Mr. Kleist was unable to attend but sent a map is a re-division of an unrecorded subdivision--the subdivision roadway. Mr. Kirch told the commissioners this certified survey Mr. Kleist's representative discussed the map with the never existed and there are a few parcels with private ownership. commissioners saying it was started as the E.C. Johnson Subdivision in 1920. This certified survey map is meant to already approved it. He presented more papers to the straighten the old map. The Town of Norway and Racine County have Ald. Taube questioned whether there are standard road widths for commissioners to look at concerning the right-of-way easement. the Town of Norway. Chairman Salentine said the Plan Commission can take this into consideration if they feel the roads will being no further questions, the discussion ended. Upon a roll impact the City of Muskego or anhexation in the future. There call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. Resolution #P.C. 80-92 -- Approval for extraterritorial certified survev maD for Scott and Vicki Waae in the NW 1/4 of Resolution #P.C. 81-92 -- Approval of extraterritorial ~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ ~- ~ A Section 3, Town of Norway: Mr. Schmidt moved for adoption and Mrs. Smith seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. certified survey map for Frances Senak in the SW 1/4 of Section Resolution #P.C. 82-92 -- Approval of extraterritorial Senak was questioned on the Town of Waterford's minimum lot size 12. Mr. Honl moved for adoption and Mrs. Smith seconded. Ms. requirements. She thought the minimum width was 90' but didn't 4 Plan Commission Meeting April 21, 1992 know the minimum area requirement. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. Kelly Drive by Tom Kelly in the SW 1/4 of Section 9. Mr. Raimann Resolution #P.C. 83-92 -- Approval of road vacation for movei for adoption and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Ald. Taube wanted more explanation on the placement of the road, etc. Mr. Kirch drew a sketch to explain the location. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. kennel by Lee Shane at S92 W19918 Henneberry Drive. Mr. Honl Resolution #P.C. 84-92 -- Approval to renew permit for dog Chairman Salentine said the Plan Commission has been consistent asked if there was any way this annual review could be waived. with annual review for all the other kennels. Mr. Kirch talked be amended to show the location of the outbuilding currently being about the zoning of the property. He suggested that the site plan used to build chain link dog kennels and this should be added. He has one employee. Mr. Honl made a motion to amend the resolution to read: "Be It Further Resolved, That the location of the outbuilding currently being used to make chain link dog kennels be and that the Conditional Use Permit be amended to list the making shown on the site plan referenced in the Conditional Use Permit of chain link dog kennels as part of the conditional use of the property." "Be It Further Resolved, That the revised conditional Mr. Schmidt seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend use permit be recorded at the Waukesha County Register of Deeds." passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the amended resolution passed unanimously. MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS: DISCUSSION -- Mike Kempen's storage of materials, second garage structure at W143 56785 Tess Corners Drive. Mr. Kirch said the Plan Commission Minutes of the September 3, 1991, Meeting reflect that the need to paint the decoraJive block be discussed after the structure is up. He had inspected the site and found twice in 1991--first for a 57 sq. ft. size variance for a second several concerns. Mr. Kempen has been to the Board of Appeals garage structure and the second time for a 10' height variance. It was noted that there would be a loft for storage. Chairman Salentine said the outside storage and operation of a business was a separate issue. Mr. Honl said a lot of residents were looking at the size of the structure, which appears to be taller than the house. It was noted that both the Board of Appeals and Plan Commission send notices to adjoining property owners advising them of the applicants' requests. The commissioners decided to have Mr. Kirch send a follow-up letter and if needed proceed with enforcement. The painting issued will follow at a later date. The commissioners were in agreement. DISCUSSION: Overlook Bay Apartments' amendment to site plan, removal of brick facade on rear of buildings request. Mr. Beebe, 5 Plan Commission Meeting April 21, 1992 representing Overlook Bay Apartments of Terra Development, said the reason for the request was to cut cost due to a lumber increase. He has two options -- one to save the front of the column as shown on the plans with brick and eliminate the sides of the columns, and the other to eliminate the brick totally and replace with vinyl siding. There isn't any brick on the rear of the adjacent houses and it wouldn't affect the living quarters. The brick will stay on the clubhouse. After some discussion the commissioners all agreed the brick should remain on the plans as originally shown. The residents had been promised a development as stated at the Plan Commission and public hearings at City Hall, and we can't lessen our standards now. They have a right to what was approved. The commissioners were in agreement. Mr. Kirch brought up the berm and wanted the commissioners input. Mr. Beebe said they will not change their landscaping plan. They have stockpiled soil to spread out later and plant trees, shrubs and grass and 80% of the berm will remain at the height it is now. The master grading plan is on file at City Hall. Chairman Salentine noted Ald. Schneider has requested a meeting on April 22, 1992 at City Hall to discuss Lake Forest. ADJOURNMENT: Mr. Raimann made a motion to adjourn at 9:35 PM and Mrs. Smith seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adjourn passed unanimously. Respectfully submitted, Cheryi Schmidt Recording Secretary cds