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PCM19920401MINUTES OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REVIEW MEETING HELD ON APRIL 1, 1992 AT 7:OO PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS - MUSKEG0 CITY HALL Chairman Wayne G. Salentine called the meeting to order at 7:OO PM and asked the Recording Secretary to read the Roll Call. MINUTES OF MARCH 25, 1992 MEETING--Mr. Raimann made a motion to approved the minutes and Ald. Sanders seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion passed unanimously. PRESENT: The following Plan Commission Members--Mayor Wayne G. Salentine, Ald. Dave Sanders, Edward Raimann, Darl Honl, Traci Smith and Jerald Hulbert attended. Mr. Jack Schmidt was excused. Mr. Larry Kirch, Director of Planning was present. The following Comprehensive Plan Study Committee Members--Chairman Stan Potrykus, Ald. William Simmons, Russell Jankowski, Wayne Peterson, Dave Krutz, Scott Garland, Dottie Rector, David DeAngelis, Blenda Treba and Ken Baranowski. Mr. Adrian Serrano and Mr. Robert Klenz were not present. The following Common Council Members were present--Ald. William Simmons (Comp Plan Mbr. also), Ald. Sanders (Plan Commissioner also) and Ald. Pat Patterson. Several citizens were present. Reporter Steve Tietz of the Muskego Sun, as well as a Sentinel reporter, and Tom Edwards of the Enterprise. Chairman Salentine discussed the brief outline (agenda) distributed at the meeting. Discussion began on Page 3 of the draft of the Comprehensive Plan. Under the category “Urbanized Muskego” Chairman Salentine went through each point asking if there was discussion needed to reach an agreement. 0 -- development as the predominant form of land use. They were in agreement to promote the single family ” Discussion followed for the statement to provide for additional multi-family development at the NE corner of Woods Road and Racine Avenue. Mrs. Smith said she is not in favor of would like to see it left as it is for overlay zoning. If RSM zoning and citizens she spoke with were against it. She n L 0 people come in for plan approval and the City feels it is feasible, they could discuss it at that time. Mr. Honl asked what is the current percent multi? Mr. Kirch said 12 percent according to the report---not including 1991. He referred to page 17, of the Housing Element Table 3. The Table refers to units not buildings. The Director of Building Inspection compiled a report which can be added to page 18, Table 4. He has told Mr. Kirch the statistics for 1992 are already ahead of last year for total dwelling units. Mr. Honl asked about rental space availability. Mr. Kirch said Mr. Ridge's sales are strong--the demand is there. Paschke has everything but one or two units rented, take Members if the Bay Breeze Condo development was considered Chairman Salentine asked the Comprehensive Plan Committee mixed in with this percent? Mr. Dave DeAngelis said it is included as multi-family. Mr. Hulbert said in the past multi-family has not been around except politically. It is best in less desirable areas between Industrial or Commercial. He isn't in favor of zoning multiple in other areas. He isn't opposed to a buffer to be created in difficult areas to be developed; where single-family homes are hard to build. Do not change the areas in the city in this manner. He moved here to live in a single-family area and it's unfair to the City itself--it changes the whole nature of the City. Mr. Stan Potrykus said apartments aren't built to buffer. Developers in Muskego learned long ago to talk about buffering since so many were against apartments. He feels the high school area near Woods and Racine is an ideal area for a large tract of multi-family. The other area is Moorland Road and existing apartments right next to Janesville. He said it is unrealistic to say you don't want apartments. A 15 year study anticipated some multi, as it is a good mix for the city. Ald. Simmons said the multi-family dwelling concept on a 26 acre tract is a bit much. He would be in favor of a portion of the 26 acres. Concerning RSM/PUD, Mrs. Rector asked if there was a way to remain with existing zoning but give an indication on the the zoning rights but the plan would refer to the area. Mr. future zoning? Chairman Salentine said we would not give them example, 26 acres with RS-1 and using the P.U.D. formula, he Potrykus responded there is one problem with P.U.D. For would guess you would end up with 30-40 units--unrealistic. Ald. Sanders felt they should find somewhere in between to find a mix. You need to integrate, but he isn't in favor of that developer would double down size. He asked if RS-1 is area for multi. Mr. Hulbert agreed with Mr. Potrykus that the sewered. If you look at RS-2, the P.U.D. gives more units. 0 I 0 I 0 3 Don't zone entire area. Look at a plan and don't mix unless it not consider a P.U.D. if it is a good plan. Not all qualify. is compatible. Mr. Potrykus said his view on 10 percent is, do Mr. Scott Garland said their Comprehensive Plan didn't say specifically 26 acres. It was noted on page 11 on the top of the page, 26 acres were mentioned. Chairman Salentine said the Common Council expects a Zoning recommendation for an area in the City of Muskego. Mr. Potrykus said the Committee wished to take out the 26 acres statement in the draft plan. Mr. Kirch referred to an article he'd read about cities if you challenges if no land is available for multi-family. Chairman only allow multi-family with P.U.D. and the potential for Salentine said he remembers how the City's records were scrutinized when the desegregation issue arose with the school district. Mrs. Rector asked if RSA zoning qualifies? Mr. Kirch said yes. Mr. Hulbert said we have land available. At this point, Chairman Salentine suggested we set this issue aside. 0 -_ develop large vacant properties. There was general agreement with the comment if the right underlying zoning for density is there first. Encourage the Planned Unit Development (P.U.D.) approach to " along the City's "downtown" corridor. Some asked which Comprehensive Plan Study Committee Members. They felt it was a "downtown"? Bay Lane to Pioneer was considered the area by the vital area that shouldn't fall into shambles. Tenants are moving back into Parkland Mall, Pick 'n Save area is expanding with Walgreens, etc. Chairman Salentine asked how the Moorland Corridor fit in? Mr. Garland responded there is only one corridor on Janesville--not very deep. Ald. Simmons talked about the Lincoln Point area. Mr. Potrykus said his drawings eliminated some business from the old parkway plan. One Comprehensive Plan Study Committee Member said it looks like a strip mall and not a solid downtown appearance. Mrs. Rector said the City should look into obtaining grants for the staff to revitalize the downtown area. If it is available, we should go for it. Mr. Kirch said he is aware of students in urban design, studying a community for a summer as an internship. Ald. Simmons said the owner of Parkland Mall is the party with the control. Mr. Garland commented on the Pick 'n Save stores constructed in Menomonee Falls and Germantown, where they were direction to do so. Mr. Kirch said the City can have forced to put fronts on the buildings to look nicer, They had appearance codes concerning roof pitches, materials, etc. Elm Promote the stability and vitality of the commercial uses 4 e Grove controls the appearances of their businesses. Mr. Honl asked if the City isn't too well-developed for an appearance theme? Mr. Garland responded we do not have what Mr. Patch has promised to do on Janesville and Racine yet. It is timely for know what they want. There was more discussion concerning Parkland Mall. The City should let the owner of Parkland Mall other buildings currently being built in the City. e.g. the modern fire station. Mr. Krutz felt the City should start to plan for an appearance code. Mr. Hulbert felt business should have a code and guidelines before going to the Plan Commission. An Architectural Control Committee (citizen group) to review the color schemes, etc. is needed. There was a brief discussion on themes, e.g. nautical since we have lakes here. Everyone noted page 5, under B. Economic Development/Community asked everyone to turn to page 24 in the draft and add to the Image addressed the importance of the downtown. Mr. Garland third paragraph, third line after page "58". " Parkland Mall was discussed above. " area. Mr. Hulbert asked about curb and gutter. The shadow Encourage planning to improve the Janesville Rd. commercial lanes show no planning. There is a need for major upgrading of Janesville Road itself. Ald. Simmons wished to discuss page 58, Parkland Center where it referred to upgrading. Chairman Salentine said if the City put together a financing package, maybe people would want curb/gutter and lighting. Mr. Hulbert asked what money is available? The County pays 15 percent and the City 25 percent. The County is talking about assessing back to the concerned parties. The upgrade of the roads is in the Transportation section of this draft. Mill Valley school. They were in agreement to allow additional commercial near the "Research suitable sites for industrial development. The area much support for the Industrial next to the school. Mr. Hulbert served bythe Water Tower was suggested. Some said there isn't would like to see people living near the high school to enable them to walk to school. Mr. Garland said the Industial Park gives us tax dollars in the future. We can deal with the big company when they decide to move to Muskego. Mr. Garland said he felt the area allocated presently is adequate.(including should be discouraged with buffers near Hwy. 45. Mr. Hulbert land in Tess Corners) Ald. Patterson commented landfills asked if the Hwy. 36 path had been chosen? Mr. Kirch responded with the Old Loomis Road area and there is a problem with Hwy. he attended a meeting with Mayor Salentine. There are concerns 36 and 45 alignment; there are three routes for Hwy. 36. Mr. Garland discussed historical landmarks to consider. Chairman Salentine felt they will be following the quarter-section plan to re-structure Muskego Dam Road. straight up. He said we'll have to look at the transportation 0 0 5 " Ensure the comoatibilitv with at allowing commerciai and indktrial rezonings . Mr. Potrykus said buffers are just a broad and general statement. Mr. Garland felt there is a need for trees and parkways, not just apartments as buffers. djoining land uses prior to " area that can be served by existing utilities. Mr. Garland wished to leave some of the area alone--no scattered sites. Ald. Sanders asked the Comprehensive Committee how they felt about leachbeds and 3-5 acres parcels? Mr. Potrykus said 3-5 acres was good in the SW corner of the city. Chairman there are a number of holding tanks. Mr. Raimann felt it was Salentine commented that there are hard to sewer areas, and nice to have a stable area of large lots on Hi-View without sewers. Mr. Potrykus said those residents have to hope no one develops near them. Direct additional growth to those portions of the urbanized Moorland Road Corridor (Paqe 3) The-first two points were agreeable to everyone. " Actively support the extension of the Moorland Road arterial; identify that segment extending from College Avenue to Janesville Road as a high priority, and the segment continuing south of Janesville Road as a secondary priority. There was considerable discussion about the Moorland Corridor. Chairman Salentine said there are two different funding entities. Ald. Simmons felt there was a traffic problem on Comprehensive Plan Study Committee Members felt the City needs Janesville and we need to meet with the County. One of the to upgrade the intersection of Janesville and Moorland -- 4 Salentine said we would pay for it. Ald. Patterson asked if it lane? Mr. Hulbert asked what our input was? Chairman would be 3-5 years or more? Or, whether it was a high priority. Chairman Salentine said the County Supervisor said next year (1993) for mapping and constructed in 1994. The City would pay 25 percent, the County 50 percent and New Berlin 25 percent. The Susner development was mentioned. A major tenant may move to this intersection and pay a fair share of costs. Mr. Kirch gave them a map of the Moorland Road area to further clarify this area. Chairman Salentine said the Common Council should support this identification. -_ Road to a more 90 degree design to facilitate traffic flow. Everyone agreed. Mr. Hulbert talked about a major park possibly to the west--not site specific. The parklands will be discusssed later. Re-align the intersection of Martin Drive with Janesville " the area north of Janesville Road. Recommend rezoning the RS-1 district to RSE. Mr. Hulbert said the Park Board will move Maintain primarily low density residential development for 6 this up as a priority. Mr. Potrykus said you should buy now at a reasonable price. Mr. Garland talked about RS-2 and RS-3 zoning on page 15, first paragraph. " Establish a Planned Unit Development (P.U.D.) design review for property located in the environmental corridor and "natural" areas. Everyone agreed. -_ Amend the present irregular shaped commercial zones to a pattern contiguous to the proposed intersection of Moorland Road with Janesville Road. Mr. Kirch said it doesn't work to have all four intersections commercial--better to reduce to all four intersections commercial. The existing zoning is in three intersections. Mr. Garland said the Committee didn't say place. The idea is to square off the area. Mr. Kirch said he would give the members an article concerning this issue. " Discourage the sprawl of commercial land uses along the " Expand the RSA zone district of the Durham Meadows proposed arterial. Everyone agreed. development to the west to abut the southerly extension of proposed Moorland Road. Mr. Honl questioned extending to Woods Durham would go into woods. Ald. Patterson talked about large Road or would the creek be in the way? Mr. Potrykus said multi near the school. Mr. Potrykus said this is the other area for multi--10,000 sq. ft. lots up to 8 units. Ald. Sanders commented apartments are already there on Cornell. RSA/OPD would be okay. Mr. Hulbert discussed RS-3. Mr. Garland thought it was a good area for low income housing. Mrs. Rector agreed RS-3 is needed. Mr. Hulbert thought one-half RSA and one-half RS-3. 0 " park in the area. Identify the John Groh property as an alternative site for consideration. The present access is off College. Chairman Salentine said we are suggesting another site by sewer availability. Ald. Sanders felt it was easier to as to locating a park in the area north of Martin Drive. The go with one owner. Mr. Hulbert said we should be site specific alternate site is Parcel Tax key #2170.99 in the Master Plan. Chairman Salentine thought this should be referred to the Park Board. Support the S.E.W.R.P.C.'s recommendation for a community -_ Encourage single family lots to develop along the Moorland Road arterial without direct arterial frontages. Everyone agreed. There was some discussion about sewers. The connections may be used up. Everyone agreed to take out this statement! At 9:05 PM everyone took a break. At 9:20 PM the meeting resumed. " Designate this area as a primary growth area in the City. c Page 4, Southeast Muskego " Plan for utility extensions that do not adversely impact the provisions for growth and services in other sectors of the City. Mr. Hulbert felt we have asked to little of some developers. Chairman Salentine said we are all one city paying uniform taxes. There will be impact fees. Everyone decided to take this statement out of the draft! " The "concept" of the proposed Country Club development as a P.U.D. is acceptable. Everyone agreed. " the landfills along Highway 45. Ald. Patterson talked about Promote public and private efforts to limit expansion of this. Mr. Potrykus said landfills can raise the prices of land and override zoning. Ald. Patterson said now is the time to start. There are only three landfills permitted in a Third Class City. But no limitations on expansions. Mr. Hulbert's idea was to have a zoning category for landfills and you couldn't expand without coming to the city for approval. Mr. Kirch said he had information concerning landfills for Mr. Hulbert. Chairman Salentine felt it was good not to have landfill zoning. Ald. Patterson said the landfills could later be green space. OIP zoning designation was discussed. Mr. Potrykus said landfill companies may already have options on land already which precludes the city from buying it. The said if you have regulations in place, it would make it more state will make it more easier to locate landfills. Mr. Kirch arbitratable. County Supvr. DeAngelis said he knew of one case in Dane County where they won over the landfill, but they had a very good case. Chairman Salentine said you can't designate this landfill area for ski slopes, plant trees, etc. Supvr. DeAngelis said perhaps we can have the County Board identify landfills. " Research and implement methods to limit the loss of prime agriculture land. Some of the farmers are being forced to sell. There was some discussion about Farmland Preservation credit and taxes. Everyone agreed to add the statement "Such as Farmland Preservation Zoning Program." In November there will be a referendum on the ballot concerning re-assessing farmland. preservation of open space. Everyone agreed. " Incorporate park programs and facility planning with " Support S.E.W.R.P.C.'s proposal for a recreational trail system in the area; consider a multi-purpose trail discussion concerning easements such as are used for incorporating equestrian uses where feasible. There was some snowmobiles. Mr. Garland said there is a need for this. Mr. Hulbert said snowmobiles have caused erosion damage to W.E.P.C.O. areas. Ald. Sanders thought they could get their own right of ways. Mr. Krutz was encouraged to send a letter to the Park Board concerning this. " natural resource to be protected and enhanced. Everyone agreed. West Muskego Establish Big Muskego Lake, and area wetlands, as a prime " region. Approve of development contiguous to existing utility Encourage an orderly and timed growth pattern for this service areas. Everyone agreed. " Maintain the existing RCE, A. and EA zoning outside of the sewer service area. Chairman Salentine felt those with EA can was recommended to rewrite this to add "But permit rezoning to go back to previous zoning to allow 3 acre land divisions. It original zoning which was in place prior to 1984." region. Ald. Simmons felt area was conducive to this. " Research the potential for a cemetary to be located in the " Monitor the land uses in the vicinity of the Stoneridge Landfill; encourage development that will be compatible with the ultimate reclamation plan. Staff will look into this. Committee is willing to accept changes to the document. In summary, pages 3-7 everyone agreed the Comprehensive Study Chairman Salentine asked if anyone in the audience wished to discuss the draft plan? No one did. Mr. Honl asked Mr. Potrykus if Commercial zoning ends on Bay Lane? Mr. Potrykus responded they wished to limit the commercial from Bay Lane to Pioneer. Mr. Honl asked if the City would run out of be torn down for new structures. He feels multi-family should commercial? Mr. Potrykus responded old buildings (houses) may be near Janesville Road. Chairman Salentine said there are several issues to discuss such as multi-family, transportation, addressing amendments to the sewer service area, using P.U.D. approvals within a certain specified time or it would terminate such as Scott Krause's development. Mr. Kirch said maybe something granted years ago should not be held for sewers. The City has a concept re-zoning hanging out there. A public hearing may have to held all over again. Mr. Potrykus felt once a development is in the planning stages, you can't take it away. Mr. Garland felt "implementation" should be discussed along with "reviews" and "revisions" on the next meeting's agenda. The next meeting was scheduled to be held on Wednesday, April 29, 1992 at 7:OO PM in the Common Council Chambers. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 10:25 PM. All in favor . Respectfully submitted, - . Cheryl D. Schmidt Recording Secretary eity o/ WUdtL~O DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMEN7 PLAN COMMISSION Notice of Meeting for Comprehensive Plan Update WEDNESDAY, APRIL 1, 1992 -- 7:oo PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS Discussion on draft of Comprehensive Plan for the City of Muskego. cds 3/26/92