PCM199112030 CITY OF MUSKEG0 - PLAN COMMISSION
MINUTES OF THE MEETING HELD ON DECEMBER 3, 1991
PRESENT: Mayor Salentine, Edward Raimann, Darl Honl, Jerald
Hulbert, Ald. Dave Sanders, Jack Schmidt, Traci Smith and Chuck
Dykstra, Acting Planning De artment Director.
ABSENT: No one.
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Discussion: Dottie Rector concerninq Affordable Housinq.
Mrs. Dottie Rector qave the members a CODY of report and SDOke
about a recent housing summit held by the-Waukesha County housing
Authority. County Executive Daniel Finley, U.S. Housing Secretary
Jack Kemp and other interested parties met to discuss what
buyer can afford. The word “affordable” is related to what the
affordable housing involves. They discussed what a potential home
developer to package the lot and house. This is a serious problem
potential home buyer can afford and not what it costs the
36% of existing homeowners would be unable to buy a median priced
for people earning the median income. For an example, in 1991,
home for themselves if they were forced to purchase one today.
Another concern is providing the workers for businesses in the
concerned with the effect on the increasing use of the roadways
Industrial Park. She said County Executive Finley is also
for commuting workers.
She felt we need to find ways to provide this type of housing.
multiple phase development.
One way would be to build modular homes, zero lot line homes or
Chairman Salentine noted Dottie isn‘t addressing the Plum Creek
issue. Her appearance tonight is just co-incidental.
Mrs. Rector said it is the Plan Commission and the Common Council,
who need to act to make this type of housing possible.
OLD BUSINESS:
Resolution #P.C. 221-91” Approval of sketch for Plum Creek
Subdivision in the SE 1/4 of Section 17 for Terra Development.
Dr. Joseph Mangiamele, the planning consultant gave his report
was also given to the commissioners. Dr. Mangiamele started his
concerning the rezoning request for Plum Creek. A written report
colored sketch. The location of the proposed multi-family is near
discussion pointing out the various areas on the Plum Creek
the Industrial Park; a stream divides the area south and west for
single-family with access off Woods Road at two points. His
approximately 108 acres with approximately 73 acres of developable
report on page 1 was a summary. It mentioned the parcel was
land. He said under RS-3 zoning there would be 211 lots at 15,000
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development). The proposal shows 10,000 sq. ft. lots requiring
sq. ft. He proposed mixed zoning with an OPD approach (planned
OPD to share density with RSM and RSA. The zero lot approach for
duplexes is the most likely for affordable housing. On page 2. he
and the unbuildable lands. He felt the land use was appropriate
indicated an actual survey would determine the size of the parcel
and if the concept was approved by the commission, they would have
to decide on the underlying zoning.(RS-3 is recommended) Page 3
dealt with the estimate by economists and housing experts that an
affordable house in Muskego, including lot and all service costs
is approximately $80,000. Dr. Mangiamele talked about the "Levitt
duplexes can be built near the Industrial Park to reduce the
Houses" of the past, where they added a garage later. Perhaps
multi-family. The water is a buffer for the single family.
price control. Page 4 of the report indicated no problems with
Paragraph 4 on page 3 could have a minimum/maximum price house for
the type of layout for single family; duplex lots are acceptable;
the mere layout of the lots for the eight-families would be
unadvisable; the sixteen-unit apartment building is quite
formidable and out of scale. The mixed uses requires a planned
approach. Dr. Mangiamele briefly discussed Page 5, #5, 6, 7 and
9. He felt the city should be the third party concerning the
homeowners association.
Chairman Salentine asked if the members had any questions? Since
they didn't at this point, he asked the petitioners to make their
comments. Mr. Bill Carity of Terra Development said he recognized
the challenge of the Industrial Park land nearby and the interest
in controlling the lot. They are interested in the Open Space
Plan. The plan also has to make economic sense for them to make a
profit, and they chose the site for this development carefully.
There is less of a need for a development like Lake Forest because
of the market conditions. Mr. Bob Patch of Terra said he realizes
the lot sizes are a hot issue. He would like to build 10,000 sq.
Lake Forest and said he realized they need some buffer, but not
ft. lots. Mr. Raimann would like to see larger lots similar to
much. Mr. Carity said he would like a street versus a stream as a
good buffer to the Industrial Park. There was some discussion
about the price of the lots being "affordable". Mr. Carity said
they would like to control the price of the lots and not call them
affordable housing, they could look at more duplexes. Mr. Hulbert
"affordable". Dr. Mangiamele felt if the city wants more
felt there was too much multi, the lots should be 15,000 sq. ft.
and a berm is needed. Take out some of the amenities and
have less phasing. Ald. Sanders also felt there was too much
Mr. Honl would like to see all duplexes on the east side and
multi-family and he didn't feel too positive about the package.
15,000 sq. ft. lots. Mrs. Smith would like to see 15,000 sq. ft.
lots and more research done on the plan. Mr. Schmidt would like
to see the lots in the Southeast area larger.
Dr. Mangiamele commented that a 10,000 sq. ft. lot can measure 80'
nice to get affordable housing in Muskego. Chairman Salentine said he was interested in applying for a block grant fund for
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0 x 130', which really isn't that small. Mr. Honl said it would be
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0 housing; he would be working with Dottie Rector on this. The Plan Commission would have to approve all the plans, etc.--it would be
more work for the Plan Commission as it would oversee the
project. We should try for a grant and apply before the January
7th deadline. This developer is trying to work with the city and
we could give up a little on average width. The creek could be
the natural barrier. The Industrial Park has tall buildings on
the end facing this proposed development and we must deal with the
have their report. Dr. Mangiamele will look at the whole area
transition (noise, etc.) The Comprehensive Study Group will soon
near the Industrial Park.
Mr. Carity and Patch thanked the commissioners for their input and
said they would utilize their concerns and further expand on the
proposal.
Dr. Mangiamele felt RS-3/0PD is a good zoning. They should
require site plan approval, a bike trail and a planned unit
development. Several members would like to see the multi cut back
and no 16 family unit. Mr. Honl made a motion to defer until the
December 17 meeting and Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote
the motion to defer passed unanimously. The planner would not
need to come to the next meeting. Chairman Salentine thanked Dr.
Mangiamele for coming to present his report.
0 NEW BUSINESS:
Resolution #P.C. 225-91--Approval to rezone Parcel 4 of CSM
6072, tax key #2221991005 in the NE 1/4 of Section 16 from RS-2 to
moved for adoption and Mr. Raimann seconded. Chairman Salentine
RSA to construct a duplex for Wendi Wauer-Pipkorn. Mr. Schmidt
said he wished to abstain from voting. Wendi Wauer-Pipkorn passed
out papers and pictures and stated she has two interested buyers.
The area is less desirable for single family because of the horse
arena approved by the Plan Commission. Chairman Salentine asked
rezoning request process has started at the Council level. Wendi
if anyone in the audience wished to speak? No one did. This
that in the deed restrictions. Mr. Hulbert questioned whether
said she agreed to go to two units instead of three and will put
Wendi's sister, who owns the lot next door (Parcel 3), would be
was felt parcel 3 could still be single family. Ald. Sanders made
precluded from building a single family? After some discussion it
a motion to amend Resolution #P.C. 225-91 to read Be It Further
Resolved, That Parcel 4 have recorded in the deed restrictions
that there will only be two units built on the property and Mr.
Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend passed
unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the
amended resolution passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 228-91" Approval to rezone part of Parcel 2
Court in the SW 1/4 of Section 9 from RS-3/B-2/OPD to RS-3/B-2/OIP
and Parcel 3 of certified survey map #6287, and vacated Karah
Honl moved to adopt the resolution and Ald. Sanders seconded.
and approval to purchase land to construct a fire station. Mr.
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the resolution to add in the title "approval to purchase land" and
Soil borings have been taken. Mr. Schmidt made a motion to amend
approval of the purchase of land if the Common Council approves
Be It Further Resolved, That the Plan Commission recommend
the rezoning. Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to
amend passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to
adopt the amended resolution passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 229-91 -- Disapproval of sketch for Lowell
Peterson in the NW 1/4 of Section 11. First, there was
discussion. Mr. Peterson said the property west having less than
would move the garage shown on the sketch. Mr. Dykstra explained
the required lot size was approved by the Plan Commission. They
the situation with the approval of the lot to the west. There was
some discussion about the zoning on Woods Road. It was suggested
the guidelines set by the Plan Commission and then come back to
to Mr. & Mrs. Lowell that they try to purchase more land to meet
the Plan Commission. Mr. Raimann made a motion to insert the word
meeting and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to
"Disapproval" and defer this resolution to the December 11th
defer with the word Disapproval passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 230-91 -- Approval to construct a pond for George Resch at W208 S8903 W208 S8903 Hillendale. Discussion was
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resolution. Chairman Salentine said $2,000 was in escrow as a
financial guarantee for erosion control and $25,000 as a financial
guarantee for street purposes. The pond is not completed, so the
money is in escrow. It was noted Mr. George Resch and his Atty.
Geraldine Solbrig and Mr. Art Dyer and his Atty. Dale Gerdes were
present. Atty. Solbrig said no more trucking was needed and the
First Wisconsin Bank. There will not be any more clay extraction,
roads could be inspected so the city could return the money to the
just rip wrap for erosion. Her client, Mr. Resch is willing to
forfeit $2,000 and pay cash pending the completion of the work and
they are asking for the release of the $25,000.
Attorney Dale Gerdes said his client, Art Dyer is in opposition to
this being done. The placement of the pond is not in compliance,
as it is now 8 feet from his driveway and a hazard. None of the
erosion control is done, no rip wrap in place, no berm done, and
clay needs to be removed. They have not complied with numbers 4,
5 or 7 in Common Council Resolution #39-90 approved February 13,
1990. Atty. Gerdes would like to see this matter set over for 30
days to see if the problems can be solved.
Attorney Geraldine Solbrig is concerned with the $25,000 drawn
upon. An inspection is needed to see that no damage was done to
purchased the clay elsewhere to complete the project. There are
the roads. They said they were not allowed on the site so they
approximately 12 loads of clay left on the site.
Mr. Dyer felt the road bond shouldn't be released and the pond is
unsafe and hazardous needing guards. He hasn't refused access.
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0 The soil erosion they tried to place was just broken brick for rip wrap.
Atty. Solbrig disagreed on the access situation and asked for
$27,000 to be returned to the financial institution and they will
issue a Letter of Credit to January 1, 1992, to make sure the bond
is there.
Mr. Dyer would like to see it cover the restoration.
Mr. Hulbert asked if a cross-section of the pond was submitted?
Mr. Dykstra, Director of the Building Department produced the file
with the pond drawing. There was some discussion about the depth
of the pond. Chairman Salentine said the pond wasn't properly
designed.
Mr. Raimann moved for adoption with the word "approval" in the
title and Ald. Sanders seconded. Since Atty. Solbrig requested a
change in the title to Barrett Properties, Inc., Mrs. Smith made
Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend passed
a motion to make this change in the form of an amendment and Mr.
per the two attorneys' request to attempt to resolve their
unanimously. Mr. Honl made a motion to defer this resolution, as
Mr. Schmidt seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to defer
problems until the Plan Commission's January 7, 1991 meeting and
passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 231-91--Approval of sketch for land division in
the NE 1/4 of Section 18 for Francesco Aiuppa.
Resolution #P.C. 232-91--Approval to move a house to a parcel of
land in the NE 1/4 of Section 18 for Francesco Aiuppa.
Both resolutions were discussed at the same time.
Mr. Honl moved for adoption and Mr. Hulbert seconded. Mr. Honl
asked if the addition will be sided or if the whole house would
now by the airport in Waukesha. He will make sure the siding is
need residing if damaged in moving? Mr. Aiuppa said the house is
veneer. The addition will on the back of the house. The house
in good condition to match the house and he will add brick
will be placed on a new poured basement.
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Resolution #P.C. 231-91 concerns the sketch for land division.
He will have to come back with a certified survey map. 250' will
be required beyond the required street dedication anh a $3,000
bond or Letter of Credit will be required to assure. recording.
Resolution #P.C. 232-91 concerned the moving of the house and the
resolution was written to insure the work is done in a good
manner. Mr. Dykstra referred to a memo from Assessor Paul
DeAngelis, Sr. regarding his inspection of the dwelling with Mr.
Dykstra and the way the value was determined. The commissioners
permit for occupancy until the addition is done and inspected.
0 were assured the Building Inspection Department will not grant a
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Ald. Sanders made a motion to amend Resolution #P.c. 232-91 to
State Be It Further Resolved, that the $3,000 bond in Resolution
#P.C. 231-91 remain in place until the addition to the house is
built to meet the square footage requirement for the zoning. Mr.
Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend Resolution
#P.C. 231-91 passed unanimously.
Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt Resolution #P.C. 231-91,
as amended passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion
to adopt Resolution #P.C. 232-91 passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 233-91--Approval of revised preliminary plat
for Suburban Heights in the SE 1/4 of Section 5 for E. Lambert.
Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Mr. Stan
Potrykus was present to represent Mr. Edward Lambert of Suburban
Heights, as well as Pete Barr. Ruekert and Mielke's engineering
report item #1 concerning Tans Drive, items 2 and 3 concerning
technical items, #7 concerning maneuvering the road around, and #8
concerning shifting the corner lot can all be taken care of before
the final plat.
Mr. Dykstra went over the responses from the objecting agencies
and noted Waukesha County noticed there were two lot 12s. Stan
said it was listed as Lot 12 and Lot 12A. There was some
discussion about the lots and access. Mr. Dykstra felt there may
be some more planning needed because of a a lot filled nearby.
plat. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to amend the resolution to state
Stan said he would address this in the grading plan for the final
Lot 8 will have an interior access and Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a
voice vote the motion to amend passed unanimously. Upon a roll
call vote the motion to adopt the amended resolution passed
unanimously.
West in the NE 1/4 of Section 17 by Robert Stack. Mr. Raimann
Resolution #P.C. 234-91--Approval of final plat for Park Place
moved for adoption and Mr. Hulbert seconded. The deed
restrictions were submitted and given to City Attorney Don Molter
to review. The deed restrictions were briefly discussed. The
subdivision will not have a property owners' association, as all
will be an Architectural Control Committee until the lots are sold
property owners will have individual deed restrictions, but there
There will not be an entrance sign. This is no longer a P.U.D.
and then a meeting will be called to select 3 representatives.
It is all single family with restrictions like Lake Forest. The
original house is excluded. The Letter of Credit should be at
Atty. Molter's office. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt
passed unanimously.
and lighting plan for proposed Walgreens and adjacent strip mall
Resolution #P.C. 235-91 -- Approval of building, site, operation
to be constructed adjacent to existing Pick 'n Save Store in the
map showing the lighting of the building. All lights will shine
SW 1/4 of Section 10-C. Zillig. Mr. Chris Zillig submitted a new
downward for security and to insure they will not shine into the
adjacent housing development. The members were shown a colored
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picture of the exterior and roof lines, which will be like Pick ‘n
Save. Mr. Zillig said there will be decorative block like Lincoln
Point. He will have 9-10 tenants and has one-third rented out.
Mr. Dykstra had some concern about the parking situation. The
on the street to be discussed at a future meeting. Upon a roll
signs will be above the canopy with further signage for Walgreens
call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 236-91--Approval of certified survey map to
divide land in the SW 1/4 of Section 10 by Mc Adams, Inc. Mr.
Honl moved for adoption and Mr. Hulbert seconded. Mr. Hulbert
referred to the third lane and a possible bike path. Resolution
#P.C. 235-91 addressed the third lane on Lannon Road. Upon a roll
call vote the motion to adopt the resolution passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 237”91--Approval to construct illuminated
freestandina oDerationa1 sian to be located in an island in the ”
Bank. Mr. Schmidt moved for adoption and Ald. Sanders seconded.
southwest corner of Lincoln-Point Shopping Center for K.K. Federal
Mr. Chris Zillig, representing K.K. Federal Bank said the other
Mr. Hulbert asked if this was the fourth sign for the premises?
sign was for the road. This 4’ x 3‘ illuminated sign will be 40
feet in from the road opposite the canopy and not that noticeable
Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed by a vote of 6 to
from the road with green space. NO parking spaces will be lost.
1 with Mayor Salentine, Mr. Raimann, Mr. Honl, Mr. Schmidt, Ald.
Dave Sanders and Mrs. Smith voting for the sign and Mr. Hulbert
voting against.
Resolution #P.C. 238-91--Approval of revised site and operation
plans for Mr. Jentzsch at ,583 W18360 Saturn in the Muskego
Industrial Park. Mr. Raimann moved for adoption and Mrs. Smith
Construction, representing Mr. Jentzsch told the commissioners
seconded. Mr. Pete Barrette, Project Manager of Schwabe
this will be a nice asset for the corner of the Industrial Park.
They will have an asphalt driveway and grass area. The exterior
metal siding. Mr. Dykstra asked Mr. Barrette how each phase will
of the building will have 10 feet of masonry face and vertical
be finished? Mr. Barrette showed each phase on the drawings and
said Phase I will have asphalt on the west end and near the edge
of the building--in the spring they will asphalt this first phase
and gravel the rest with landscaping. Phase I1 will have
asphalting again as shown on the plan. Phase I11 will increase
the asphalt parking area again. Phase IV will finish the
asphalting. Mr. Raimann questioned what will happen after Phase I
is completed and Phase I1 doesn‘t get started? Will they finish
off the building as required by the Industrial Park Regulations?
Mr. Dykstra read the Industrial Park Regulations for masonry face;
the rules also stated two coats of paint need to be applied to the
decorative brick. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to amend the
is not started within 6 months from the last phases‘s completion,
resolution to read Be It Further Resolved that if the next phase
Smith seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend the
two coats of paint must be applied to the decorative block. Mrs.
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resolution passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion
to adopt the amended resolution passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 239-91--Approval for City of Muskego to
purchase 6 acres more or less of park land adjacent to Kurth
Park. Ald. Sanders moved for adoption and Mr; Hulbert seconded.
The land is low land and won’t gravity feed; the land is proposed
to be used for soccer fields. The Park Board is looking for an
Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the resolution passed
appraisal. The exact amount of land is to be determined.
unanimously.
Miscellaneous Business:
1. Mr. Dykstra told the commissioners he had been out to Mr.
Gregg Pasky, 583 W20702 Janesville Road to look at the parking on
the west side of the building. He has a conditional use grant.
The drive is gravel and Mr. Paschke wishes to park cars in the
back, as the Plan Commission has directed in the conditional use
grant. The commissioner agreed with Mr. Dykstra that he could
have a gravel access to park in back without having to come back
to the Plan Commission.
request with sketches for a non-illuminated advertising sign on
2. Mr. Dykstra told the commissioners Bank One had submitted a
their drive thru structure. They already have a freestanding
sign. The commissioners did not verbally approve this sign
request.
the sign ordinance again and come to a Plan Commission meeting to
discuss it.
3. Chairman Salentine informed the commissioners the Tess Corners
holding tanks area is officially closed and it will be costly to
find alternatives. They may have to have a city run operation.
Adjournment:
Mr. Honl made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 11:40 p.m. and
Mr. Raimann seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adjourn
passed unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
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Chairman Salentine suggested that the Chamber of Commerce review
Cheryl Schmidt
Recording Secretary
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