PCM19911105CITY OF MUSKEG0
PLAN COMMISSION
MINUTES OF THE MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 5, 1991
Mayor Salentine called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
PRESENT: Mayor Salentine, Edward Raimann, Darl Honl, Jerald
Hulbert, Ald. Dave Sanders, Jack Schmidt, Traci Smith and Chuck
Dykstra, Acting Planning Department Director.
ABSENT: No one.
MINUTES: Mr. Raimann made a motion to approve the minutes and
Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adopt passed
unanimously.
Discussion: on Park Plan - Pete Theis, director.
Mr. Pete Theis, Parks Director gave a presentation complete with
maps. He gave a history of the formation of past plans. The
first Master Plan was adopted in 1976 and there were revisions in
later years. Southeastern Wisconsin Regional Planning Commission
(SEWRPC) adopted SEWRPC Planning Report No. 27 in December 1977
Wisconsin:2000, which set forth park and open space objectives
called A Regional Park and Open Space Plan for Southeastern
acquisition, and development of lands needed for outdoor
together with a plan intended to guide the preservation,
base of the seven-county Southeastern Wisconsin Region to the year
recreation as well as for the protection of the natural resource
County refine and detail the adopted plan as it relates to its
2000. They recommended each local unit of government in the
the first revision was July 1991. This plan will be a guide to
local area of jurisdiction. They started a draft in April 1991,
the year 2010. Pete offered other resource materials from New
Berlin and West Bend for the commissioners or public to peruse.
He went through the outline of the plan detailing several points.
He talked about the park areas where sports activities could
utilize the land. The legal opinion from Atty. Molter concerning
having a majority of the Plan Commission members' votes was
discussed by the Chairman.
Mr. Theis asked for the commissioners' input so he can take it
back to the Park Board. The commissioners decided to further
review the park plan. Mr. Jerry Emmerich of SEWRPC may be able to
answer some of the question if asked to appear. The commissioners
felt Mr. Theis should return. Mr. Honl asked if there was wetland
Mr. Honl wanted the proposed areas and current park area color
area to preserve? Mr. Theis said they would preserve some land.
meeting.
coded. Mr. Theis was requested to return to the November 19, 1991
OLD BUSINESS:
Resolution #P.C. 140-91--Approval of sketch land division-Tudor $
Oaks Retirement Community. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to table the G
resolution and Ms. Smith seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion
to table passed unanimously. -3 i\”
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Resolution #P.C. 182-91--Approval of sketch land division for Ed
Kotnik, SW 1/4 of Section 8. Mr. Honl made a motion to table the
resolution and Ald. Sanders seconded. Upon a voice vote the
motion to table passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 195-91--Request for a conditional use grant for
a fish farm (hatchery) for Gregory & Gloria Boehm, SE 1/4 of
Section 16.
Appearance by Ronald Piening of Department of Natural
Resources-concerning this fish farm (hatchery).
This resolution was on the floor. State Representative Maxine
Hough had requested Mr. Piening to attend. Mr. Piening said a
permit had been issued by the Department of Natural Resources
(DNR). Mr. Dykstra, Acting Director of Planning stated the
following:
-Zoning was EA originally but there was some confusion with zoning
-he showed the area marked in red on the wetlands map which
-the zoning is to be determined
property was not in this area. Since this is not wetland, EA or
represents shoreland/wetland areas and pointed out that this
A, the size allows certain activities; when over 400,000 sq. ft.
the RCE requirements no longer apply and Agricultural zoning
There was some discussion on the zoning and how it refers back to
applies. EA needs 35 acres or more. This is less than 10 acres.
RCE .
With all the information presented at the meeting, this matter
will not need Plan Commission approval and the conditional use
becomes unwarranted. This is a permitted use on land considered
agricultural and the DNR seems to concur this is a normal
agricultural operation. Chairman Salentine said the Exclusive
Agriculture Board was contacted and this area could qualify if
they have 35 or more acres. The code says this building is “here
by right” and allowed. Agricultural land allows machinery such as
a backhoe and grader, which Mr. Piney said are normal pieces of
equipment to have on hand for an operation such as this.
Mr. Piney of the DNR said Mr. Boehm is required to file a report
of his operation every year. He made the inspection for the
license. He talked about Chapter 30 permits and said Mr. Boehm
didn’t need one because the ponds were already there. He has a
WPDES permit. There was some discussion about effluent being
monitored. He also discussed the number of wells and gallons per
being the maximum amount allowed for this site without a state
minute being pumped with 70 gallons per minute pumping capacity
permit. When asked if inspections are routine, he said no but if
something is suspect the laws entitle the DNR to go on the
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Mr. Boehm was asked to address concerns about the noise, aerators, :$
working on the ditch area, screening (landscaping) and cooperation
with the neighbors.
Upon a roll call vote the motion to table Resolution #P.C. 195-91
passed unanimously.
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Resolution #P.C. 209-91" Approval of updated Comprehensive Plan
Sanders seconded. There was a brief discussion
for Park Development. Mr. Honl moved for adoption and Ald.
Mr. Hulbert, who is also on the Park Board, said that Waukesha
about what is to be shown on the maps and the preservation areas.
County does not plat specifically. They give perimeters but
really don't pinpoint the areas for development--just show where
they are planned. The Comprehensive Plan for Park Development is
a guide for planning. Mr. Pete Theis will return at a future
motion to defer and Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the
Plan Commission meeting to discuss this plan. Mr. Schmidt made a
motion to defer passed unanimously.
Waterfield Park, NW 1/4 of Section 14. Mr. Raimann moved for
Resolution #P.C. 210-91" Approval of Preliminary Plat for
adoption and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Mr. Chuck Dykstra, Acting Plan
Director listed several concerns from the City Engineers. Among
them were:
-Lot 1 access--bridge to buildable area
-Area is zoned RS-2; SEWRPC will go out to look at the wetlands
-Lots 4 and 5 don't meet minimum lot width
Mr. Stan Potrykus responded they can adjust the lot lines to meet
the requirement
Mr. Kosobucki said the ponds met the requirements of the DNR and
he wished to preserve the area near the ponds. The direction of
the flow from the ponds was discussed.
There was discussion on a bike path and the access through the
subdivision. Mr. Kosobucki felt Lots 13 and 14 would be in the
bike path access, which wouldn't make the lots very desirable. He
preferred the access behind those lots and would berm and screen
Hulbert made a motion to amend the resolution by making the the path area. The cul de sac area was also discussed. Mr.
approval subject to referral to the Park Board to determine a
connection to W.E.P.C.O. bike path and appropriate location for
same. Ald. Sanders seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to
amend passed unanimously. Ald. Sanders made a motion to further
amend the resolution to state approval is subject to the
Department of Public Works establishing the radius of the cul de
voice vote the motion to amend passed unanimously. Upon a roll
sac with a soft center island. Mr. Raimann seconded. Upon a
unanimously.
call vote the motion to twice amend the resolution passed
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Plan Director listed the City Engineer's report. Some of the
for adoption and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Mr. Chuck Dykstra, Acting
items were:
-recommend land dedication for Lot 18
-recommend Lot 1 be restricted from access to Durham Road
Mr. Robert Klenz discussed the access points to Lots 17 and 18
(ingress and egress easement). The Park Board should negotiate
acreage for park purposes.
Ald. Sanders made a motion to amend the resolution as follows:
-the option of adding acreage for park space from Lots 10 and 11
with the minimum remaining lot size to be 40,000 sq. ft. for each
lot
-recording access for Lot 18 to allow for full access to parklands
from Brentwood Drive
Durham
-deed restrictions for Lot #1 to assure no direct access from
-the Park Board determine the location for a bike path
Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adopt
passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the
amended resolution passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 212-91--Approval of Building, site and
operation plan for A-1 Storage at 583 W18550 Saturn Drive. Mr.
Dykstra said this is a unique situation. The original owner
looked for investors and came up with another plan. Mr. Bob
Herriot was present to represent A-1 Storage. He showed a sketch
of what they propose to do. He said small time distributors will
use the warehouse storage and office space. Mr. Dykstra talked
about the 2-hour fire wall between the office and the storage area
commissioners discussed the paving and the fact that this is a
and the previous landscaping and paving requirement. The
paved. Mr. Raimann moved to insert the word "approval" and Mr.
revised building, site and operation plan and more area should be
Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adopt passed
unanimously. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to delete the 4th Whereas
parking and the requirements and the drainage problem (swale).
and Mrs. Schmidt seconded. There was more discussion about the
A-1 Storage will have to come back for lighting approval. Mr.
Raimann made a motion to further amend the resolution to request
by June 1, 1992, with a bond or another financial guarantee
the center aisle up to the fence line and parking area to be paved
established for such. Mr. Honl further amended the resolution to
state the balance of the landscaping and asphalting shall be
completed by June 1, 1993, with the bond or another financial
the motions to amend passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote
guarantee continuing. Mrs. Smith seconded. Upon a roll call vote
the motion to adopt the amended resolution passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 213-91--Approval of sign at 576 W18180
Janesville Road for P & L Insurance by Michael Plumley.
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commissioners were sent Board of Appeals minutes, which indicated
approval of a 20' setback variance from the base setback line for
a sign; the total height of the sign/pole assembly was not to
exceed 14'; the existing sign was required to be removed from the
site; the sign was not to exceed 39 sq. ft. The Plan Commission
was to approve the sign and any illumination. Mrs. Laura Mecha, a
neighbor, stated she had a petition signed by neighbors objecting
to the illumination of the sign. Mr. Greg Mecha said he wished to
keep the area "residential". Discussion continued about the sign
passed around the site plan submitted for the Board of Appeals.
illumination and type of sign pole. The Recording Secretary
Mr. Honl made a motion to amend the resolution to limit the hours
of the sign illumination from 6:OO a.m. until 1O:OO p.m.. Mr.
Schmidt seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to amend the
resolution passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion
to adopt the amended resolution passed by a vote of 5-2 with Mayor
Salentine, Mr. Raimann, Mr. Honl, Mr. Schmidt and Mrs. Smith
voting for the resolution and Mr. Hulbert and Ald. Dave Sanders
voting against.
The Plan Commissioners took a short recess.
The meeting resumed at 10:45 p.m.
a plan for Overlook Bay Apartments in Lake Forest-PMCS Group. Ald.
Resolution #P.C. 215-91--Approval of revised building and site - - " - Sanders moved for adoption and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Mr. Dykstra
said these are revised plans, which he felt the commissioners
should review. Mr. Bruce Michaels of PMCS Group showed several
large scale plans. He said the change was due to a marketing
need. The first floor will remain one bedroom units. The second
floor plans show two bedrooms, a bath and a den (no door on this
room). Architecturally this plan adds two windows. There are
enough sewer hook-ups available to accomplish this.
When asked about adding more parking spaces, Mr. Michaels
responded the last site plan added outside parking spaces. There
is still a one car garage; no boats may be stored on site. A
woman, who owns a house bordering the apartment area was concerned
with the high berm and lack of trees. Mr. Michaels said he will
try to make it more appealing by using trees available. Upon a
roll call vote the motion to adopt passed 6-1 with one dissenting
vote from Mr. Hulbert.
Resolution #P.C. 216-91--Approval of revised site and operation
plan for G & W Wholesalers by Ronald Graham at S82 W18762 Gemini
Mr. Graham said he is changing his operation from that approved at
Drive. Mr. Raimann made a motion to adopt and Mr. Honl seconded.
vehiclerepairs. Instead he will purchase vehicles from auctions
a previous Plan Commission meeting, and will not do
and sell by phone. There will not be more than three vehicles
outside, no cars will be stored inside, and he will use Wiza
Industries office space. This business will not be open to the
public. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed
unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 218-91--Approval of certified survey map for
Harold Manske, SW 1/4 of Section 4. Mr. Schmidt moved for
adoption and Ald. Sanders seconded. The City Engineers' report
had listed two concerns. RS-3 zoning requires the minimum lot
size to be 100 feet wide and 15,000 sq. ft. (if sewered); Parcel 2
made a motion to amend the resolution as follows:
is almost entirely within the 100 year floodplain. Ald. Sanders
-delete wordage in the second Whereas, to be amended to read
-amend the resolution to add Whereas, the lots shall be a minimum
"This property is presently zoned RS-3."
of 100 feet wide and 15,000 sq. ft. and Parcel 2 indicate the 100
year floodplain. Upon a voice vote the motion to adopt passed
unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to amend passed
unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 219-91--Approval of certified survey map for
Elmer Paeoke. NE 1/4 of Section 16 and NW 1/4 of Section 15. -, Mr. Honl moved for adoption and Mr. Hulbert seconded. Mr.
Potrykus was asked to show the status of the surrounding lands on
the survey. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed
unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 214-91--Approval of site and operation plan
for Heartland TrucksDorts Off Road Center at W184 S8362
Challenger Drive. Mr: Hulbert made a motion to adopt and Mr.
Raimann seconded. Mr. Dykstra said they planned to have
owned by Raab. He must comply with State codes regarding use of
everything inside and operate out of one part of a new building
building. No outside storage will be allowed. Mr. Hulbert made a
motion to amend the resolution to state: Be It Further Resolved,
prohibited. Mr. Raimann seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion
That outside storage or parking of vehicles to be repaired is
to amend passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to
adopt passed unanimously.
Duane Whitehouse in the SW 1/4 of Section 6. Mr. Honl moved for
Resolution #P.C. 217-91" Approval of certified survey map for
adoption and Mrs. Smith seconded. Mr. Dykstra talked about the
engineering response. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt
passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 220-91--Approval of temporary sign at SI3
W16750 Janesville Road for Richard Knudsen. Mr. Schmidt moved for
adoption and Ald. Sanders seconded. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to
amend the resolution to delete in the first Whereas, and a 2' x 2'
addition to the sign. Ald. Sanders seconded. Upon a voice vote
motion to adopt the amended resolution passed unanimously.
the motion to amend passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the
Resolution #P.C. 221-91--Approval of sketch for Plum Creek a Subdivision in the SE 1/4 of Section 17 for Terra DeveloDment. w Mr. Schmidt made a motion to adopt the resolution and Mr: Raimann seconded. Mr. Bill Carity and Mr. Bob Patch were present to
discuss this proposed development. He showed large scale colored
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maps of the land west of the Industrial Park in Section 17. Mr. \
Carity showed an aerial photo
taken in 1990. He talked about the land and the uses. The land fi
proposed for Plum Creek would be served by sanitary sewers. The c
Muskego Canal (stream) is adjacent to the Industrial Park. There
is flood area but they wish to focus on the wooded area for rs
development of 147 single family lots, 1, 16 family lot, 14 duplex c
lots, and 15, 8 family lots. The layout would place the single Q.
families' view further from the Industrial Park. The proposed
ponds would be maintained by the homeowner's association. He
talked about the density and compared it to Overlook Bay. It has
to be graded so as not to enfringe on the floodplain.
Mr. Patch said the 73 acres would be zoned RS-Z/OPD developed as
an open space community with 20+ acres of open space. A small
portion is in the wetland. Five acres of heavily wooded area
would be for picnic tables, etc. with the private homes nearby.
He would like to have a covered bridge constructed to the ponds
for an upscale, deluxe development with passive amenities.
Mr. Carity said the lots would be reasonably priced with smaller
houses. The homes would have deed restrictions similar to Lake
Forest. The sketch presented is a conceptual sketch. The
commissioners when polled felt a planner should be hired to review
hire a professional planner, Dr. Joseph Mangiamele and Ald.
and make recommendations. Mr. Honl made a motion to defer and
a planner passed unanimously.
Sanders seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to defer and hire
MiscellaneousBusiness:
Mr. Hulbert and Mr. Dykstra discussed the paving of the bike path
for Meadow Green West.
Mr. Dykstra was directed to contact the Police and Fire Department
Okputniak certified survey map cul de sac as Audrey Court vs.
to get their recommendation on the naming of the street for the
Ladwig Drive as indicated on the survey map.
Adjournment:
Mr. Schmidt made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 12:15 a.m. and
Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adjourn
passed unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Recording Secretary
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