PCM199108060 MINUTES OF JOINT MUSKEGO/NORWAY SCHOOL BOARD, TOWN OF NORWAY,
PLAN COMMISSION AND COMMON COUNCIL MEETING
AUGUST 6, 1991
Mr. Jim Heiden, President of the Muskego/Norway School Board
called the meeting to order at 7:OO P.M. and verified the posting
of the meeting. He introduced his members and interested parties
and called roll call.
Chairman Salentine then asked the Recording Secretary to call roll
for the Common Council and Plan Commission. Those present were as
Ald. Dave Sanders, Ald. Harold Sanders, Ald. William Simmons and
follows:
Ald. Dave Taube. Absent: Ald. Daniel Hilt, Ald. Ed Dumke and
Ald. Pat Paterson.
Mayor Salentine, Edward Raimann, Dottie Rector, Darl Honl, Jerald
Hulbert, Ald. Dave Sanders, Jack Schmidt and Director Gene Kovacs.
Mr. Heiden stated the discussion would involve current development
plans. He hoped this would start a series of meetings with the
city and the Plan Commission. He talked about a feasibility
study. The Steering Committee has been involved with a
"feasibility study". They have gone over school by school. Mr.
Heiden said the state has set standards for special education and
reading classrooms have increased from 13 to 30 over the last 13
years. Some of the school hallways were used for student work,
rooms. He said perhaps more than one new elementary school was
lunch and equipment storage, shared classrooms and even computer
The new building would be utilized all day long with meeting space
needed. New early childhood programs are required by the state.
for groups isolated from the students. Plans of the new school
were shown -- "y" shape. It will be located near the high
Heiden replied it would. Ald. Taube talked about the Krause
school. Ald. Taube asked if the building will be expandable? Mr.
development and its impact on the schools.
other areas which cost the schools classroom space. Remedial
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Town of Norway Chairman Lloyd Hunan disagreed with the need for a
new school. He would like to see a study of the useage of the
high school. He felt the design was expensive and a 2-story was
the best buy. He said 13 years ago there were 800 more students
int he district's middle school, Bay Lane and the high school than
there were in the 1989-90 school year. There were 1,100 students
attending the two schools last year, compared with 1.900 students
13 years ago. With 85% capacity today, the high school could take
one or more of the middle school grades. Some of the elementary
district enrollment is approximately 3,600. The projection for
grades could be moved to Bay Lane Middle School. Currently,
1995 is 4,200 students.
School Board member Jeffrey Olson said they are building a place
to educate children--not just run them through. They are thinking
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of long range plans. He said that 50% of the projected new
enrollment will be at five elementary schools.
Mayor Salentine said people from metropolitan Milwaukee are moving
He felt there was a need for a new school.
to Muskego -- the Baby Boomers are having 3 children to a family.
Interim Supt. Bob Rammer said that while the high school had an
85% capacity, the quality of education would be compromised at a
greater capacity, reducing flexibiity and causing crowding in the
common areas.
Ald. Taube questioned the city's sewer connections. The city has
a good idea they will use all the recs in 9, 10 or 11 years, not
Council may send him back to purchase more capacity.
the 15 year timeframe. Mayor Salentine responded the Common
Mr. Hulbert asked what is the timeframe for construction of the
school? Mr. Rammer said August 1992 or October 1993. Mr. Hulbert
questioned if the new building proposal doesn't go through and we
have to follow state mandates, what will happen? Mr. Olson said
the school would hire a double shift of teachers -- busing would
be a problem and it isn't a good situation for the students.
Also, federal funding could be affected. There was more discussion
about property valuation and the cost of educating students.
Gene Kovacs said his department projected by the year 2010 the
city's population would almost double. Muskego's population was
also discussed the land use, annual building report, housing
16,813 in 1990. The Town of Norway has a population of 5,500. He
report and the reasons Muskego's land is becoming more desirable
(sewer/water availability).
There was some discussion about the costs incurred by the Park and
Rec Department. The City of Muskego taxpayer's shouldn't
subsidize the Park & Rec Department for the Town of Norway.
Mr. Heiden summarized the discussion and asked for one or two
representatives to serve on their committee to keep the lines of
communication flowing. Mr. Hulbert volunteered.
There being no further business Mr. Heiden adjourned the meeting
at 9:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Cheryl Schmidt
Recording Secretary
CITY OF MUSKEG0
PLAN COMMISSION
MINUTES OF THE MEETING HELD ON AUGUST 6, 1991.
Mayor Wayne Salentine called the meeting to order at 9:20 P.M.
PRESENT: Mayor Salentine, Edward Raimann, Dottie Rector(1eft
early), Darl Honl, Jerald Hulbert, Ald. Dave Sanders, Jack Schmidt
and Director Gene Kovacs.
ABSENT: No one.
MINUTES: Mr. Honl made a motion to approve the Minutes of the
July 16, 1991 meeting and Mr. Raimann seconded. Upon a voice
vote, the motion to adopt the minutes passed unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS:
to distribute yard waste over property located at SllO W14800
Resolution #P.C. 119-91--Approval of Conditional Use Grant
Union Church Drive for BFI. At Mr. John Jewell's request this
resolution was deferred to the 8/20/91 meeting.
use grant to continue mining and processing sand and gravel and
Resolution #P.C. 132-91--Approval of renewal of conditional
accessory use (asphalt plant) W217 58425 Crowbar Road for Payne &
Dolan. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to adopt and Ald. Sanders
seconded. Mr. Honl asked if there was a problem with the DNR?
Mr. Tim Schmidt of Payne & Dolan said periodic tests and surprise
visits were conducted by the DNR. The tests results showed no
problems. Mr. Hulbert asked if there were any chemical fumes or
particular matter problems? Mr. Tim Schmidt responded there
dust vs. the old wet-wash process that needed disposal. Ald.
haven't been any problems; they have a bag system which recycles
Taube asked if the wet-wash process was hazardous? Mr. Schmidt
said it wasn't. It was noted a progressive restoration of the
area has already started. Mr. Schmidt said the asphalt plant can
only process 225 tons per hour. Ald. Sanders made a motion to
amend Resol. #P.C. 132-91 to add: That the asphalt plant process
no more than 225 tons per hour. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a
voice vote the motion to amend passed unanimously. Upon a roll
call vote the motion to adopt the amended resolution passed
unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 133-91--Approval of land division in the SE
1/4 of Section 10 for Bob Klenz. Mr. Honl made a motion to adopt
and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Gene Kovacs said the city engineers had
looked at the site and voiced some concerns regarding easements
before but action was stopped because of the inability to get the
for drainage and sanitary sewer. This matter had been discussed
sewer easement through. Also, there is a concern with water
drainage for Lake Point Estates. Mr. Honl made a motion to amend
Resol. #P.C. 133-91 by adding: Be It Further Resolved, That a
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way from Lake Point Estates to the property; the City Engineers
drainage easement be shown on the plat providing for the drainage
are to determine the correct width of the easement. Be It Further
Resolved, That a statement be placed on the certified survey map
stating that the city would not be responsible for any required
future relocation of the creek within the designated easement, and
Ald. Sanders seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adopt
passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the
amended resolution passed unanimously.
structure at S67 W20949 Tans Drive for Bruce Ashbaugh. Mr.
Hulbert made a motion to adopt and Mrs. Rector seconded. Gene
Ashbaugh was before the Board of Appeals, who granted him a
Kovacs said the zoning allows the boarding of horses. Mr.
department looked at the use and granted the variance subject to
variance stating the hardship was the sloping topography. The
having the deed restrictions state that potential buyers be aware
that the building may only be used for "residential" purposes.
Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 135-91 -- Approval of final plat for
Resolution #P.C. 134-91 -- Approval of second garage
Country Brook Estates, SE 1/4 of Section 16. Mr. Raimann made a
motion to adopt and Mr. Honl seconded. There was some discussion
about the berms and the maintenance. Mr. Don Miller said he would
require maintenance of the berms in the deed restrictions. Upon a
roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
Lakeview Hiqhlands Addn. #l. SW 1/4 of Section 5. Ald. Sanders Resolution #P.C. 136-91 -- Approval of preliminary plat for
made a motion to adopt and Mr. Huibert seconded: Mr. Dick Jahnke,
engineer for Lakeview Highlands Addn. #1 was present. Gene Kovacs
said he had reviewed the plat and there were technical items to be
resolved. There was some concern about the outlots and wetlands;
this will all be discussed at a later meeting when deed
restrictions are detailed. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to amend
Resol. #P.C. 136-91 to read: Be It Further Resolved, That the
property owners be advised that the city is interested in
obtaining the first approval for a right of way on the property to
access the proposed winter activities area. Ald. Sanders
seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend passed
unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the
amended resolution passed unanimously.
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in the NE 1/4 of Section 16 and NW 1/4 of Section 15-Lyle
Potrykus. Mr. Honl made a motion to adopt and Mr. Raimann
seconded. Gene said sewers extended approximately 120' into the
motion to amend Resol. 137-91 to read: Be It Further Resolved,
first lot but short of the southern lot. Mr. Schmidt made a
the sewer lateral be given" and Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a voice
..." subject to sewer availability and approval for a road cut for
Resolution #P.C. 137-91 -- Approval of sketch land division
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0 vote the motion to amend passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the amended resolution passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 138-91 -- Approval of building, site h
oDeration Dlan for Safewav Pest Control ComDanv. Inc. in the
Industrial- Park. Mr. Schmidt made a motion to adopt and Mr.
Hulbert seconded. Mr. Sal Ferrito, Pres. of Safeway Pest Control
Co., Inc. said his building will be a steel sided pole style
building. Mr. Kovacs said it conforms to the Ind. Pk. Reg. The
Fire Dept. makes periodic inspections of all buildings in the Ind.
Pk. Mr. Honl asked what will the front of the building look
like? Mr. Ferrito responded he will have an overhang on the
building. There was some discussion about the amount of brick
required on the building. A motion was made by Mr. Raimann to
weather permitting, the parking area and driveway be asphalted
amend Resol. #P.C. 138-91 to add: Be It Further Resolved, That
motion to further amend the resolution to add: overhang be
prior to occupancy and Mr. Honl seconded. Mr. Hulbert made a
extended across the entire length of the building on the south
elevation. Upon a roll call vote the motion to amend the
resolution passed by a vote of 4-2 with Mr. Raimann, Mr. Hulbert,
Salentine and Mr. Schmidt voted against. Upon a roll call vote
with Mayor Salentine, Ald. Sanders, Messrs. Raimann, Hulbert &
the motion to adopt the amended resolution passed by a vote of 5-1
Honl voting for the resolution and Mr. Schmidt voting against.
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Mr. Honl and Ald. Sanders voting for the resolution. Mayor
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for 53 residential lots in the SW 1/4 & SE 1/4 of Section 32 in
Resolution #P.C. 139-91 -- Approval of sketch land division
the City of Muskego & Town of Norway. Mr. Honl moved for adoption
and Mr. Hulbert seconded. The preliminary plat and final plat
will be submitted later. There was some discussion about the
zoning and size of lots. As indicated on the sketch, a small
will be directly onto Muskego Dam Road--just internal roads. piece of land lies within the City of Muskego boundary; no access
There was some discussion concerning the barn on the property.
Waiving the curb/gutter requirement should be placed on the Public
Works agenda. All building pads will be within the Town of
Norway. Fees were also discussed. It was noted that the Town of
Norway would do the snowplowing. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to
Town of Norway guarantee the removal of the barn on the
amend the resolution to read: Be It Further Resolved, That the
Mr. Raimann seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend Resol.
northwesterly lot with a letter guaranteeing financial assurance.
to adopt the amended resolution passed unanimously.
#P.C. 139-91 passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion
Resolution #P.C. 140-91 -- Approval of sketch land division I for Tudor Oaks Retirement Community. Chairman Salentine
recommended discussing the resolution first. A representative
from Tudor Oaks Retirement Community stated they have no plans for
the other land and wetlands between Parcels A & B. Gene Kovacs
said that Attorney Molter felt there wasn't a good reason to
support a land division; it was not part of the P.U.D. There
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developed. Mr. Honl made a motion to select "Approval" and move
false hopes given to people that the lots created could be
defer this resolution to enable the department to work with Tudor
for adoption and Ald. Sanders seconded. Mr. Honl made a motion to
Oaks before the next meeting and Ald. Sanders seconded.
structure for Don Daley at W164 S7727 Bay Lane. Gene Kovacs said
Resolution #P.C. 141-91 -- Approval of second garage
the applicant requested this resolution be tabled due to the
subdivision's archtiectural control committee enforcing their deed
restrictions.
operation plan for P & L Insurance Agency at S76 W18180 Janesville
Road. Mr. Schmidt moved for adoption and Mr. Honl seconded. Mr.
Mike Plumley staed the interior work would include paint and
wallpaper. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to amend Resol. #P.C. 142-91
to read: The hours of operation will be from 8:OO AM to 8:OO PM,
Monday-Saturday. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend passed
unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the
amended resolution passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 142-91 -- Approval of building, site &
a Resolution #P.C. 143-91 -- Approval of site and landscape
plans for Lake Forest Multi-family DeveloDment in the NE 1/4 of - Section 17. Mr. Raimann moved fo; adoptibn and Mr. Schmidt
seconded. Mr. Bob Patch and Bruce Michaels, a partner were
present. Gene Kovacs discussed the deed restrictions. Mr. Patch
talked about the entryway signage, upgrading the landscaping and
providing additional parking. Mr. Michaels further stated the
entry to the project was a boulevard design which meets the
criteria of Waukesha County Department of Transportation. The
sign they have chosen is made of lazer carved wood, illuminated
with two lights on either side of the sign. They will transplant
evergreen trees and the berm will be landscaped. The buildings
defined as shown on the sketch they presented; additional parking
have been modified with walkways provided; the clubhouse is more
spaces will be provided. Mr. Hulbert asked about amenities such
as a pool, putting green, tennis courts. Mr. Michael said they
would address the totlot idea in Phase 111. Mr. Carrity said
written in the lease. The commissioners accepted the picture
recreational vehicles, boats and campers will not be allowed--as
submitted for the sign for Overlook Bay Apartments as an exhibit
for sign approval. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to amend Resol. #P.C.
Director and Mr. Raimann seconded. Mr. Hulbert further amended
143-91 to state the entrance sign be approved by the Planning
the resolution to add: "That 140' of tapered curbing be installed
adopt passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to
from the Janesville Road R.O.W. Upon a voice vote the motion to
adopt the amended resolution passed unanimously.
Lake Forest Subdivision, Terra Development, Inc. Mr. Hulbert
Resolution #P.C. 144-91 -- Approval of entrance sign for
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0 moved for adoption and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Mr. Bob Patch said there will be trees on the sides of the sign and cobblestones in
front of the sign. Mr. Hulbert had several concerns: 1-what
anchor stores were coming in; 2-bike trail access to the County
Park (Waukesha County wants to design the trails). Upon a roll
call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 145-91 -- Disapproval of road vacation in
the NW 1/4 of Section 4 for Fritz Bauer. Chairman Salentine
members discussed the road extension and access to the creek.
requested discussion first to determine approval/disapproval. The
This matter will be before the Common Council for a public hearing
soon. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to insert the word "disapproval"
and Mr. Raimann seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion passed
unanimously. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to defer this resolution
and Ald. Sanders seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to defer
passed unanimously.
Resolution #P.C. 146-91 --
and site plan for Citv of Muskeao Public Works Garaae. Muskeao
Approval of building addition
Industriai Park. Mr.-Hulbert moved for adoption ani Mr. Honi
seconded. Mr. John Loughney of the Dept. of Public Works and
will be on the south side of the existing building. The office
Scott Kloskowski were present. Mr. Loughney said the addition
space will be in the area facing the east. A storage area and dog
parking will be provided. If the 80'xlZO' size is selected, there
kennels will be located in the addition also. Additional visitor
will be a removable wall for future expansion. It was noted that
more landscaping needs to be done. Mr. Loughney replied the
department would do the landscaping. Mr. Hulbert requested a
landscaping plan be submitted in the future. Upon a roll call
vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
Miscellaneous Business:
Mr. Francis Henneberry's Pond-Section 29. Clarification was
need to allow Mr. Henneberry to proceed with a soil erosion permit
for this pond which was originally approved by the Plan Commission
on January 15, 1974 in P.C. 2-74. The Commission felt it was
still valid and a cross section design of the pond and restoration
plan should be submitted to the department. It was noted that the
soil will stay on the site.
Willow Pond - Gene Kovacs reported that Mr. Paschke still
has money left in the Letter of Credit. He talked about the
temporary access and the County's requirement to have him
landscape over that area -- removing the temporary posts. Mr.
Hulbert commented regarding the possibility of extending a
graveled portion of a bike trail. It was noted the dumpsters have
been kept clean. Gene also talked about the street trees, street
of Lion's Park Drive, which isn't his property (area was dedicated
lighting at the entrance on Janesville and the grading at the end
for sewer extension).
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lots in the Dreikosen Unrecorded Subdivision were sold.
Adjournment:
Mr. Raimann made a motion to adjourn at 12:OO midnight and Mr.
Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adjourn passed
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Strasser's Lots - There was some discussion concerning which
Cheryl Schmidt
Recording Secretary
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