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PCM19910507CITY OF MUSKEG0 PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON MAY 7, 1991 Mayor Salentine called the meeting to order at 7:OO P.M. PRESENT: Mayor Salentine, Edward Raimann, Dottie Rector, Darl Honl, Ald. Dave Sanders, Jerald Hulbert, Jack Schmidt and Director Gene Kovacs. ABSENT: No one. MINUTES: Mrs. Rector made a motion to approve the Minutes of the April 16, 1991 meeting and Mr. Honl seconded. Mr. Schmidt requested the minutes be amended to note he voted for the adoption of Resolution #P.C. 53-91. Upon a voice vote the motion to adopt the amended minutes passed unanimously. DISCUSSION: Mrs. Joanne Gillespie was present to clarify the methods of establishing ponds. She came to discuss the planting and transplanting of wetlands. She could prepare a list for the Plan Commissioners to think about. Tom Murn of her staff discussed: 1-pools, ponds, lakes; 2-size, location and purpose; 3-depth, gentle slope which is good for water quality ; 4-mowed vs. unmowed on the pond edge; 5-liability for fences for pools; 5-water quality--native vegetation vs. rip wrap. Ponds should be self-perpetuating vs. cattails (aeration). 6-nutrient overload from fish, water fowl, etc. can be handled by native vegetation; 7-management with chemicals--need other methods to promote good stable pond edge. alien fish. Mrs. Gillespie said this is just a starting point for 8-fish--depending on the use, depth of 10' or more--don't want discussion and would be receptive to any suggestions on how to forward this matter. Mrs. Rector suggested that since the commission has a new second garage structure list, maybe that sort of thing could be filled out for pond proposals. She is concerned about all the permits Mrs. Gillespie said this is an on-going problem and there is a for ponds and wonders if people know what they are getting into? need for the city to have a checklist. You don't want ponds with hazards. Mr. Hulbert asked if there are guidelines to do it properly? Mrs. Gillespie said Lake Forest has retention ponds which will be taken over by ownership of association. Mr. Hulbert asked how you prevent a pond from becoming green and scummy? Mrs. Gillespie said you leave a 10' edge and enhance it--minimum depth with actual plants not seeds is ideal. Ald. Sanders asked how you 10'-15' for fish. A 2' depth is a lagoon. An 8-1 gentle slope keep it clean as a nutrient overload can cause a problem? You oxygenate the water. The city's erosion control ordinance was discussed. Mrs. Gillespie recommended a horticultural matrix e.g., red clover--not only silt fencing. If you use plantings to 2- Plan Commission Minutes 5/7/91 - a stop erosion it is inexpensive. She has worked with Don Reed of SEWRPC. Chairman Salentine said this is a timely topic with all the subdivision development in the city. He thanked Mrs. Gillespie and Tom for coming. This discussion ended at 7:45 P.M. OLD BUSINESS: two commercial trucks at 5104 W15103 Loomis Dr. by D. Wieselmann. Chairman Salentine said this won't be on the agenda until the Common Council acts on the trucking ordinance change. Resol. #P.C. 48-91,Approval/Disapproval for permission to park Estates Addn. #1 (deferred for drainage study) will be on the agenda for the next Plan Commission meeting. Resol. #P.C. 55-91,Approval of Preliminary Plat for Lake Point Resol. #P.C. 62-91, Approval of truck parking for Yaegers at W207 S8050 Hillendale. Chairman Salentine said this was removed from the last meeting's agenda. The Recording Secretary read the resolution. Mr. Honl moved for adoption and Mr. Raimann Kovacs asked where? Mr. Yaeger said inside a 40'x80' building. seconded. Mr. Yaeger said he wants to keep parking trucks. Gene Yvonne Kiegy said she owns land nearby. Yaeger's land is not zoned business--it's residential zoning. She said she developed and paid for the roads. She has talked to other neighbors who are against it. Gene talked to Atty. Molter. He feels a road dedication is the most desirable way to acquire land for transportation purposes as the city can control the land. The road reservation is the exact opposite. It's very similar to an easement--you reserve for a purpose. The city doesn't have good control. Mrs. Knutilla, who lives on Hillendale said Yaeger's permission for truck parking was supposed to be temporary with yearly review. Mrs. Siegmund asked if it was wise to leave it as a business in a residential area? Chairman Salentine said this matter was before the courts already for operation of a business for 16 trucks. Now only one truck remains and the commission has the authority to grant permission--maybe with restrictions. The truck parking ordinance hasn't been adopted yet. Chairman parking. Mr. Hulbert said he was told the trucking business would Salentine read the Common Council Public Hearing Notice for truck cease -- and that's the bottom line. In other approvals we haven't approved more than one truck. Ald. Sanders questioned the completion of sewers this year and the load on the roads. Mr. Yaeger said he would have a 12,000 lb. weight. Gene Kovacs said there is a 10,000 lb. wgt. limit. Mr. Honl made a motion to amend the resolution to read: 1- trucks be parked inside the building; 2- trucks are to be empty when stored; 3- yearly review of parking. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the amended resolution passed by a 4 to 3 vote with Chairman Salentine, Mr. Raimann, Mr. Ald. Sanders voting against. Honl and Mr. Schmidt voting for and Mr. Hulbert, Mrs. Rector and a Plan Commission Minutes 5/7/91 3 ,b I .use grant #15-Strasser. The Recording Secretary read Resolution Resol. #P.C. 66-91 - Expansion of amendment to conditional #P.C. 66-91. Mr. Schmidt moved for adoption and Ald. Sanders seconded. He asked why a conditional use grant hearing was necessary? Chairman Salentine said the Plan Commission must vote on all conditional uses. Discussion involved surveillance and enforcement. Mr. Darryl Rowinski of Kristin Downs is concerned with the coming and going of trucks. Mr. Strasser said his business hours would be 7 AM to 7 PM five days a week and Saturday 7 AM to 6 PM (closed on Sunday). They provide a 24-hour a day service for the Muskego Police Department. Mr. Phil Kiedrowski felt they had to address the problem of noise as early as 4 AM (trucks starting). Chairman Salentine said Strasser's business was there before the subdivision. One of the residents said this truck problem wasn't here 30 years ago. Mr. Hulbert asked if Strassers could use the three lots for storage area and the trucks starting early use the area near Hwy. 241 Chairman Salentine said they could place a condition on the three lots. Mr. Honl asked if a fence is necessary near the neighbors since Lhey are objecting to the view. Mr. Elliott quoted Ord. 604, offstreet parking. There was some discussion about B-3 zoning. Gene Kovacs said the Plan Commission has the opportunity to place additional conditions: 1-parking (dust-free surfacing); 2-screen fencing and landscaping; 3-slats in chain link fencing. There was more discussion on the noise nuisance (refrigerated trucks running all night). Perhaps the storing of cars and towing should only be allowed on the three lots. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to amend the resolution to state in the 5th Whereas, The applicant intends to eliminate the parking of buses which was part of the original "site plan approval", not conditional use and also and condition unless at normal business hours which are 7 AM to 7 PM Monday #7 stating "that on the three lots, no trucks would go in or out through Friday, 7 AM to 6 PM on Saturday and closed on Sunday." Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend with was discussed. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to change condition #3 this change passed unanimously. Condition #6 concerning parking to add after the words "kept graveled with dust-proofed sealant", condition #5 be reworded to say That the vehicles "remaining" in the outdoor storage area "shall enter or exit only during normal business hours except for the towed vehicles, that a representative of Kristin Downs shall meet with Mr. Strasser to come to an agreement regarding the type of fencing which will be established along the property boundary line as per the survey done by Kristin Downs; if no agreement can be reached the matter will be referred back to the Plan Commission at their next meeting motion to amend passed unanimously. The motion to adopt all the for a decision." Ald. Sanders seconded. Upon a voice vote the amendments to the resolution passed unanimously. -e Resolution #67-91, Approval of temporary banner across Janesville Road for Muskego Community Festival. The Recording Secretary read Resol. #67-91. Mr. Raimann moved for adoption and Mr. Hulbert seconded. It was noted there are two banners. Mr. Schmidt made a motion to amend the resolution to add two banners, Minutes of Plan Commission Meeting 5/7/91 one over Janesville Road near Piggy Wiggly and the other on Racine Avenue south of Tans. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the amended passed unanimously. Settlers Park & Horn Field in the NW 1/4 of Section 16 and the Resolution #P.C. 68-91, Approval to fill area abutting WEPCO Right-of-way for Muskego Community Festival Committee. The Recording Secretary read Resol. 68-91. Mr. Honl moved for adoption and Ald. Sanders seconded. There was some discussion by Chief Johnson, who said they need more area. This area is desirable for parking near City Hall. There is a lack of residential property abutting it--no noise nuisance. The fill is years). Perhaps there will be a baseball or ice skating area. readily available; this will be a long-term project (10-15 Mr. Jack Spoerl of the Festival Committee said this project can be will develop a bike path along Racine Avenue to the County Park. done at very little cost and is a prudent move. The Lions Club There is a proposed pond. Chairman Salentine said the Fire Department is taking a vote to build a firehouse nearby. Chief Johnson said this would enhance the area and the Army Corps of Engineers were receptive to digging the two acre pond in the wetland. Mr. Hulbert felt this is consistent with what the city is looking for to enhance the area. They are looking for expansion of Horn Field--there are a lot of pluses. This plan is in the conceptual stages and they chose the location for the pond since it is abutted by WEPCO. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the resolution passed unanimously. e Resolution #P.C. 69-91, Approval of revised sketch for 54 lot subdivision for Country Brook Estates in the SE 1/4 of Section 16. Mr. Honl moved for adoption and Mr. Raimann seconded. This "revised" sketch is back on the Plan Commission agenda because of a dam study and floodplain questions. Mr. Don Miller had his representative discuss the sketch. The long lots back into the channel. Mr. Dietrick showed the commissioners an illustration of the development and discussed how the natural slope varies. The question is, can a roadway be below the 1,000 year floodplain? Gene Kovacs said he could get the answer for him from the engineers. Mr. Honl wanted to know the distance between Clearbrook and the lots? It is between 350'-450'. They have gone from 62 lots to 54 lots. Mr. Raimann wants to see the larger lots out in front. RS-1 zoning requires larger lots. There was more discussion on the size of the lots and the commissioners wanted to make sure the berms, etc. be required on the final plat approval Mr. Honl made a motion to amend the resolution to state that the plus taking the green space out along with eliminating two lots. approval be given to go back to the same number of lots on Woods Road as approved in the Preliminary Plat. Mrs. Rector seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend the resolution passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the amended resolution passed unanimously. At this point the Chairman asked for a break at 1O:OO P.M. Plan Commission Minutes 5/7/9J 6 The meeting resumed at 1O:lO P.M. division in the NE 1/4 of Section 18 on Hillendale by B. Lowe. Resolution #P.C. 70-91, Approval of sketch to create 6 lot The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 70-91. Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Mr. Bucky Lowe said he wants to divide property to sell one lot. Sewer and water is available already--water laterals are in. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. Resolution #P.C. 71-91, Approval of second garage structure at 574 W20570 Field Drive for Joe & Laurie Betla. The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 71-91. Mr. Raimann moved for adoption and Mr. Honl seconded. The Recording Secretary said she had not received any objections from the neighbors. Mr. Betla said he would use the same siding and shingles as the house. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. acre lot into two one half acre lots, NW 1/4 of Section 11, Donna Resolution #P.C. 72-91, Approval of sketch to divide a one Serdynski. The Recording Secretary read Resol. #P.C. 72-91. Mrs. Rector moved for adoption and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Mrs. Serdynski stated she wanted the land division for her daughter and son-in-law. She was informed she needs to be on the Public Works Committee agenda for road cut. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to amend the resolution to state the two lots be equally divided (104' lots) and Ald. Sanders seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. Resol. #P.C. 73-91, Approval of certified survey map in SW 1/4 of Section 32 for Harold DeBack. The Recording Secretary read Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt Resolution #P.C. 73-91. Ald. Sanders moved for adoption and Mr. passed unanimously. Lee Shane at S92 W19918 Henneberry Drive. The Recording Secretary Resol. #P.C. 74-91, Approval to renew permit for dog kennel by read Resolution #P.C. 74-91. Ald. Sanders moved for adoption and Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. Resol. #P.C. 75-91, Approval of second garage structure at S66 W18542 Jewel Crest by Walter Pulczinski. Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption and Mr. Raimann seconded. Mr. Pulczinski said he wanted the structure to clean-up the area. Chairman Salentine asked for discussion. Gene Kovacs asked if he would move the structure back from the road? Mr. Pulczinski responded he wanted it closer to the road. He was informed he needs Board of Appeals approval through an appeal. The 20' x 22' structure is the additional Muskego's zoning ordinance requirements for second garage amount of garage construction that would be allowed as per will be making an appeal before the Board of Appeals for a setback structures. Mr. Pulczinski felt that would not meet his needs and e Plan Commission Minutes 517191 deferred until the Board of Appeals makes a decision. Mr. Hulbert request and size variance. The commissioners felt this should be made a motion to defer and Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion carried. property in NE 1/4 of Section 18 and addressed as W207 W8230 Hillendale Drive, Siegmund-Squires. The Recording Secretary read discussion first. Mrs. Squires said she wished to give one lot to Resolution #P.C. 76-91. Chairman Salentine said there would be developed as one big unit. Gene Kovacs said that unless there is each of her children for homes. The land in the back will be an easement across Lots 2 or 3 it would be landlocked. An easement is not an ideal way to go. A flag-shaped lot with a driveway is better. Mrs. Squires questioned applying for RS-2 zoning. There was discussion concerning a road dedication, consideration from average width requirement and eliminating one lot line on lots 2 or 3 to resolve this. Gene Kovacs said a certified survey map has four lots developed and five and up lots creates a subdivision. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to put the resolution on the floor with the word "approval" and Mr. Honl seconded. It was noted they plan to give the neighbor to the north (Arnold Knutilla) 4' so he will have enough to develop a lot behind his house with 30' abutting the road. Ald. Sanders made a motion to amend the resolution to state the back lot line be deleted on lot 2 or 3 and to require a road dedication. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend passed unanimoH. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the amenhxi resolution passed unanimously. Resol. 76-91, Approval of sketch for land division to divide division, W207 58208 Hillendale Drive for Arnold Knutilla. The Resol. #P.C. 77-91, Approval of sketch for two parcel land Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 77-91. Ald. Sanders moved for adoption and Mr. Raimann seconded. There was discussion about road dedication. The certified survey map should show the road dedication. Mr. Honl made a motion to amend the resolution perc test be provided prior to the recording of a certified survey to delete in the Be It Further Resolved, ... or that a required map. and to add that a road dedication be required. Mr. Hulbert passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend the resolution amended resolution passed unanimously. Lutheran Church-new building expansion at W148 56871 Durham Resol. #P.C. 78-91, Approval of site plan for Atonement Drive. The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 78-91. Mr. Honl moved for adoption and Mr. Schmidt seconded. A representative from Atonement Lutheran Church showed elevation plans to the commissioners. He also indicated they have ample parking capacity. Ald. Sanders questioned shadow lanes (turning lanes). Gene Kovacs said he would request a copy of the highway department approval. They didn't present the landscaping or sign plans at this time, but presented the lighting request. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to amend the resolution to add lighting e 7 Plan Commission Minutes 5/7/91 e which is compatible with existing lighting be approved. Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the amended resolution passed unanimously. Resol. #P.C. 79-91, Approval of revised Extraterritorial Preliminary Plat for Waubeesee Lake Park Estates-Town of Norway in Mr. Raimann moved for adoption and Mr. Honl seconded. This was Section 18. The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 78-91. brought back before the commission to review the revision caused by a drainage problem. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. Plat for Wind Crest Subdivision Section 16, Town of Norway. The Resol. #P.C. 80-91, Approval of Extraterritorial Preliminary Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 80-91. Mr. Schmidt moved for adoption and Ald. Sanders seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. Resol. #P.C. 81-91, Approval of road dedication on Enterprise Dr., AndersodDeBack. The Recording Secretary read Resolution the floor in order to choose road dedication/reservation. The #P.C. 81-91. Discussion was first since this matter was not on want industrial traffic through a residential area. Ald. Sanders original request was for road reservation. The city might not felt this wasn't well defined at Common Council. Mr. DeBack said made a motion to choose the word "dedication" and Mr. Honl the residential entrance would be from another area. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion carried. Ald. Sanders made a motion to add the word 60' in the Therefore Be It Resolved to read ..." approve the 60' road dedication for the 10 acre parcel a roll call vote the motion to adopt the amended resolution passed located in the SE 1/4 of Section 17." Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon unanimously. a Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 82-91. Mr. Raimann moved for adoption and Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll Call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. Resol. #P.C. 82-91, Approval of banner for Green-Up Week. The Resol. #P.C. 83-91, Approval to increase the Park Dedication Division Ordinance. The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. Fees from $200 to $325 by amending Chapter 18 of the city's Land Mr. Hulbert said lots are now selling for $70,000 to $75,000 a lot 83-91. Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption and Ald. Sanders seconded. and all services have gone up. Huge plats are gone and the fees have to increase. The city is looking to have the developer's and proposed $325. Gene Kovacs felt a $400 fee wasn't share the cost. The Finance Committee reviewed the fees recently unreasonable. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to amend the resolution to amend passed unanimously. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to further to take out the last "Whereas." Upon a roll call vote the motion amend the resolution to change the fee to $400 and Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the further 8 Plan Commission Minutes 5/7/91 e Hulbert, Honl and Ald. Sanders voting for the amendment and amended resolution passed by a vote of 4 to 2 with Mr. Raimann, Chairman Salentine and Mr. Schmidt voting against the amended resolution. The Recording Secretary noted this fee change will be discussed at a Common Council Public Hearing on May 28, 1991 at 7:20 P.M. Mr. Hulbert asked when the fee change would be in effect? He was informed after the fee change is published in the newspaper -- approximately June. There was some discussion about which subdivisions would have old fees and what fees would be charged for further phases of development. MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS: second garage structures, etc. to enable them to reach their -Discussion about going before the Board of Appeals first for decision before Plan Commission action was agreeable to the commissioners. The Plan Department will review the applicant's paperwork to determine this. ADJOURNMENT: Mr. Honl moved to adjourn at 12:OO midnight and Mr. Raimann seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adjourn passed unanimously. Respectfully submitted, Cheryl Schmidt Recording Secretary /cds