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PCM19910319CITY OF MUSKEG0 PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON MARCH 19, 1991. Mayor Wayne Salentine called the meeting to order at 7:OO P.M. PRESENT: Chairman Wayne Salentine, Alderman D,avid Sanders, Darl Honl, Jack Schmidt and Gene Kovacs for Gerald Lee. Jerald Hulbert (excused at 9 P.M.), Edward Raimann, Dottie Rector, ABSENT: No one. MINUTES: Mr. Honl made a motion to approve the minutes of the March 5, 1991 meeting. Mr. Raimann seconded. Chairman Salentine commented that the minutes prepared by Jill Blenski were well done. Upon a voice vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. OLD BUSINESS : APPROVAL OF FINAL PLAT FOR COLLEGE SQUARE SUBDIVISION - This Resolution #P.C. 23-91 was deferred from the March 5, 1991 Plan Commission meeting. Chairman Salentine said we are looking for direction from the City Attorney. He asked Gene to explain what has transpired. Gene stated he talked to the City Attorney, who had discussed this with the attorney for Valley Sand & Gravel concerning the easement. He felt the Plan Commission can continue with this approval tonight subject to the attorney's review and approval at a later date. Mr. Groh said as of 3:30 P.M. today he was requested to provide a signed affidavit concerning the tavern before tonight's meeting. Chairman Salentine asked if anyone in (outlot). He said it was too late to get the affidavit ready the audience would like to speak? No one did. Gene Kovacs saw no changes in the plat since the last review of the Preliminary Plat. There was some discussion about the number of units, attached garages -- this will be further discussed tonight in Resolution #P.C. 39-91 (site plan). Ald. Dave Sanders made a motion to amend the Resolution to read Be It Further Resolved, This approval is subject to the City Attorney dealing with the easement concern that has been brought forth by Valley Sand and Gravel. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend the resolution passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the amended Resolution passed unanimously. APPROVAL OF DEED RESTRICTIONS FOR COLLEGE SQUARE SUBDIVISION IN THE NE 1/4 OF SECTION 5-JAMES GROH- The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 24-91 which was deferred and automatically removed from the agenda by consensus from the March 5th meeting. Mr. Honl moved for adoption and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Gene Kovacs discussed the Deed Restrictions briefly. Chairman Site & Operation Plan for College Square is brought up in Salentine suggested this be taken out of order when the Building, I Pg. 2, Plan Commission Minutes 3/19/91 a Resolution #P.C. 39-91. This resolution was set aside until then. It was suggested to take Resolution #P.C. 39-91 out of order. There was no objection. APPROVAL OF BUILDING, SITE & OPERATION PLAN FOR COLLEGE SQUARE The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 39-91. Mr. Raimann moved for adoption and-Mrs. Rector seconded. Mr. Groh was asked Miller or his representative were not present. They were expected to explain his site plan and said he was at a disadvantage as Ken to be present later when #P.C. 39-91 was taken up for discussion. Upon Mrs. Rector's suggestion, the members agreed it would be in the best interest to defer this resolution until it is called in to discuss the site plan. Upon a voice vote the motion to defer its order later in the agenda to enable Ken Miller to be present both resolutions #24-91 and #39-91 passed unanimously. APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT - COUNTRY BROOK ESTATES - Chairman Salentine stated this Resolution #P.C. 25-91 was deferred bv the - Common Council for further review by the Plan Commission. Therefore, it was back on the floor. Ald. Sanders said the Council's concerns involved: 1- size and location of the proposed park and play area, as they wanted a larger piece of property for the area or to centralize the location. 2- a walkway over the creek was considered; the Park and Rec Board considered a walkway between Meadow Green West and Country Brook Estates developments. 3- Public Works was to check the condition of the creek. a Mr. Miller was agreeable in working with the Plan Commission's request to maintain the park location along the creek and to the possible connection to Meadow Green West with a bridge. He has don't want a large park. spoken with the people buying lots in his subdivision and they Mr. Greg Boehm of Meadow Green West said the people in his subdivision didn't desire a park; they like larger lots. Mr. Miller said he wants the Preliminary Plat passed and has talked to the DNR (Dept. of Natural Resources). If there is a problem with his developing in the wetlands or other concerns, he may cancel his project. Chairman Salentine requested Gene Kovacs explain the floodplain concern. Gene said a study done by Ruekert h Mielke involving the dam and spillway at Little Muskego Lake and development greatly, as well as Meadow Green West Addition #3. He involving a 1,000 year storm which could occur may impact this showed the members a computer map programmed with elevations and flood potential concerning the dam. The engineers have talked to the two developers and were told they could proceed and bring in their engineering designs. The input on the final grade may change the contours -- the effect isn't known yet. Mr. Schmidt asked who decided on the 1,000 year storm plan? Chairman Salentine responded the DNR; the deadline for the response is the subject it to the engineer's work; what is approved would have to 1st of April. We could proceed as if this was no problem and be re-worked. We should see the layout of the development and I Pg. 3, Plan Commission Minutes 3/19/91 Miller felt they could proceed with the first half which is where the developer stands in relation to the floodplain. Mr. unaffected. Mr. Hulbert is looking for greenspace. He isn't looking to connect the park to another subdivision; the location is places for the park but there could be a financial burden to take acceptable and should be on high ground, there could be other out lots. Mr. Miller commented that many other developers haven't been required to build large parks. He showed pictures of the Mrs. Rector was concerned about the safety. The berm cannot be creek and park area. Mr. Schmidt felt the location was fine. guaranteed to protect the children from the creek. Chairman Salentine stated the location has now been agreed upon by the members and should be indicated to the Council. Mr. Miller said there will be 15" of water to canoe in the creek. Pam Boehm of Meadow Green West stated people purchasing lots in their development don't want a park and would protest if one was proposed for Meadow Green West Add'n. #3. Insurance costs are high on parks--there are separate rates for playground equipment, sandbox area and tennis courts, areas have to be maintained and fees are too expensive. Mr. Schmidt again stated he feels one acre is sufficient with playground equipment and a sandbox area--leave it as is. wasn't enough participation by developers. Some developments have Park dedication fees were discussed. Mr. Hulbert felt there Country Brook Estates. The city is looking to provide for given quality land. He wanted to see more than one acre for recreation after the developers are gone. There was more discussion about the walkway and the need for DNR Mr. Hulbert felt the residents in Country Brook Estates should approval. The creek width varies from 6' to approximately 20'. have access to the bike trail. He had an estimate from his research with the Park Board for a foot bridge with railings 4' wide by 20' long at a cost of $3,879.00. Another question arose about the sewer easement on both sides of the creek. There is an existing bridge there now (off Lannon) used in the winter; the Public Works office should look at the bridge to see if it should be removed. The crossing area should be further identified. Chairman Salentine centered the discussion on the main issues before the commission. takes advantage of the creek. It is a "visual" amenity. 1- The location for the park (green space) is acceptable. It 2- The one acre size is acceptable. There was some discussion about increasing the size with most members desiring more land. Ald. Sanders felt if the park space was closer to the road the Honl felt since there were no trees near the street area, it is Police Department could monitor the activity more easily. Mr. not a very pleasing park setting. a e Pg. h, Plan Commission Minutes 3/19/91 3-The park fee may not be enough money and needs further study. Mr. Schmidt made a motion to further amend Resolution #P.C. 25-91 (amended on 3/5/91) to state a one acre park be approved with a Upon a roll call vote the motion to further amend Resolution #P.C. paved drive clearly identified with signage. Mr. Honl seconded. Raimann, Honl and Schmidt voted in favor and Mr. Hulbert, Ald. 25-91 passed with a vote of 4 to 3. Chairman Salentine, Messrs. Sanders and Mrs. Rector voted against the amendment. There was more discussion about the walkway. There is a W.E.P.C.O. Right-of-way bike path for Meadow Green West which could be developed on the other side with access to the roads. Mr. Miller Mr. Hulbert said we should look at the final plat and have Meadow said he is willing to pay for one-half of this proposed bridge. Green West #3 make the same contribution for this bridge. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to further amend Resolution #P.C. 25-91 to add "the developer will pay one-half of the cost of the bill based on the prices discussed at the meeting on March 19, 1991 for a 4' wide by 30' long bridge at a cost of $5,429 approximately. Ald. Sanders seconded. Roll call wasn't taken because of further discussion. Mr. Honl made a motion to amend the amendment on the floor to read that a 35' easement be donated to the city and if unable to work this out with Meadow Green West, it must be reverted back in the final plat to the lot that it has been motion to adopt the further amended Resolution passed by a vote of removed from. Mr. Schmidt seconded. Upon a roll call vote the Rector voting in favor and Chairman Salentine and Messrs. Honl and 4 to 3 with Messrs. Raimann and Hulbert, Ald. Sanders and Mrs. with the city by Friday to be on the Common Council agenda. Schmidt voting against. Mr. Miller was informed to be in contact NEW BUSINESS: APPROVAL OF DEED RESTRICTIONS FOR MEADOW GREEN WEST ADDITION #2 moved for adoption and Mr. Honl seconded. After a brief The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 31-91. Mr. Schmidt discussion a koll call vote was taken and the motion to adopt the resolution passed unanimously. APPROVAL OF CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP FOR NW 1/4 OF SECTION 5 FOR TOWN OF NORWAY-WILLIAM ALLISON The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 32-91. Mr. Hulbert moved for adootion and Ald. Sanders seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. APPROVAL OF SECOND GARAGE STRUCTURE AT W187 S9222 RACINE AVENUE moved for adoption and Mrs. Rector seconded. Mr. Varsos, the owner informed the commission the exterior would now be steel siding not wood as submitted before. He has a 10' x 10' shed by the driveway that will remain. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 33-91. Mr. Raimann I Pg. 5, Plan Commission Minutes 3/19/91 APPROVAL OF SKETCH TO DIVIDE A PARCEL OF LAND IN THE SW 1/4 OF SECTION 32 FOR HAROLD DE BACK- The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 34-91. Mr. Schmidt moved for adoption and Mr. Honl seconded. Mr. DeBack said this is part of the farm. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. APPROVAL TO PARK A COMMERCIAL TRUCK AT W206 510513 DEBRA COURT BY JIM JACQUES- The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 35-91. This resolution was written aDDroval/disaDDroval and discussion was held first. Ald. Sand& asked if'he had heard from the residents? The Recording Secretary said none had responded. The owners said they live on a cul de sac and there is no through traffic; they presented a petition signed by neighbors truck parking. Chairman Salentine asked what is the weight of the in their subdivision who stated they didn't mind the Snap-on Tools present to speak. Ald. Dave Sanders said this truck parking is truck? Mr. Jacques said 14,000 pounds empty. No residents were in his district and had reviewed the petition. He felt this permission should be given on a yearly review basis. There was where the situation originated. The Department of Public Works is more discussion about the involvement with the Police Department discussed. Perhaps the Rules, Laws and Ordinances Committee concerned about the load on the road; the truck route was motion to place this resolution on the floor with the word should consider this as an ordinance change. Ald. Sanders made a "Approval" inserted and amended to read that this permission to park a commercial truck is subject to a one (1) year review and Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the resolution passed by a vote of 4 to 2 with Messrs. Honl and Chairman Salentine and Mr. Raimann voting against. Schmidt, Mrs. Rector and Ald. Sanders voting for approval and APPROVAL OF 30' x 54' POLE BARN AT S90 W18234 PARKER DRIVE-WILLIAM IWASKIEWICZ - The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 36-91. Ald. Sanders moved for adoption and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Mr. Iwaskiewicz said he has almost 10 acres where he may have chickens and a horse. The area residents had been notified. No residents were present to oppose this structure. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. APPROVAL OF FLAT WALL SIGN FOR TODD BOTTONI AT 583 W18712 SATURN DRIVE - The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 37-91. Mr. Honl moved for adoption and Ald. Sanders seconded. Mr. Bottoni said his sign will-be constructed of weather-proof exterior billboard material; a colored drawing was shown to everyone. If he installs lighting, he will return to the Plan Commission for approval. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. TOM HUCKSTORF - The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. APPROVAL OF CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP IN THE SW 1/4 OF SECTION 34 FOR 38-91. Mr. Raimann moved for adoption and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Pg. 6, Plan Commission Minutes 3/19/91 Gene Kovacs said the city engineer's report indicated some minor concerns. The Recording Secretary read the amended resolution adopted 3/5/91 stating it shall be noted on the final plat that there may be a possible assessment in the future for a road. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. APPROVAL OF BUILDING, SITE Fi OPERATION PLAN FOR COLLEGE SQUARE IN THE NE 1/4 OF SECTION 5 - The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 39-91. There was some discussion concernina the re-developed plan with attached one car garages. The buildings will be brick and siding with two bedrooms and adequate storage. Gene said this is a P.U.D. and landscaping plans will need to be submitted later prior to the building permit being issued. In researching the earlier approvals it was noted that an entrance will be involved in the building construction. Upon a roll call sign with plantings was required to be installed. Mr. Ken Miller vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. APPROVAL OF DEED RESTRICTIONS FOR COLLEGE SQUARE IN THE NE1/4 OF SECTION 5 - This Resolution #P.C. 24-91 was deferred animals and soil erosion. Mr. Schmidt made a motion to amend the earlier. There was some discussion about the type and number of resolution to add on page 3 (E) that at the lot owner's discretion and not in violation of the city ordinances no animals, ... . Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend the resolution passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the amended resolution passed unanimously. REPEAL AND RECREATE CHAPTER 14 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCE - The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 40-91. Mr. Schmidt made a-motion to-adopt and Mr. Raimann years there have been several modifications and changes to the seconded. Gene Kovacs said he had met with FEMA and over the wording as far as including/excluding areas and involving historical structures. The department's concern is they do not want to piece together the ordinance and would prefer to adopt the entire ordinance. Council action is needed. Mr. Honl lives on one of the three residential properties on Gaulke Drive listed in the FEMA letter. (dated 12/17/90) The Recording Secretary provided him with a Council public hearing notice for April 9th at 7:20 P.M. where this could be further discussed. MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS: - Discussion-Parkland South Road Extension -- Chairman Salentine Hwy . "L" said the city needs direction on the road that was started off development, proposed Barker Homes site, Moreland Road extension . Several topics were discussed including the Kozey and the city-owned parkland to the east. A resident of the city Lannon Drive. Mr. Richard Schlei, W172 57645 Lannon Drive stated a petition is being circulated concerning the traffic on residents requesting the city extend Parkland Drive to Woods Road presented the Chairman with a petition signed by Lannon Road in order to curb the traffic on Lannon Drive south of Hwy. 24. I Pg. 7, Plan Commission Minutes 3/19/91 site in the city had been selected. They are looking for the - Discussion on Habitat for Humanity -- Dottie Rector said no smallest size lot for a 1,200 sq. ft. house. ADJOURNMENT: Mr. Raimann made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 10:50 P.M. and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adjourn passed unanimously. Respectfully submitted, 2% Reco;ding Secretary /cds