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PCM19910219f2ITV OF MUSKEGO PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON FEBRUARY 19. 1991. Mayor Wayne Salentine called the meeting to order at 7:05 P.M PRESENT: Chairman Wayne Salentine, Jerald Hulbert. Alderman Dave Sanders, Darl Honl, Dottie Rector, Jack Schmidt and Director Gerald Lee. ABSENT: Edward Raimann. MINUTES: Mr. Hulbert made a motion to approve the Minutes of the February 5, 1991 meeting. Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. OLD BUSINESS: 2ND GARAGE STRUCTURE-HIRSCHBOECK - Resolution #P.C. S8246 Pioneer Drive for Jim 6 Chris Hirschboeck. Chairman 10-91, Approval of second garage structure (pole barn), W179 to notify Pioneer Center condo owners and obtain an inspection Salentine stated this matter was deferred from the 2/5/91 meeting site. Mr. Lee explained that the department found the items report from the Building Dept. as to what is stored, etc. on the listed on the report and sketch mailed to each member. He felt Loughney of the Department of Public Works could use them and that the concrete culverts may be hard to remove. Perhaps Mr. arrange to have them removed. Forty-six (46) condo owners were notified by the Recording Secretary and none responded. The requested size will be 60' x 120'. Chairman Salentine asked if anyone in the audience would like to speak? There was no response. It was noted Ald. Taube wasn't present. Mr. Lee asked Chris if she intended to give lessons on the property? She responded she didn't. She intends to go to other people's houses to train horses. Mr. Honl asked if she will only have 4 horses? She said she may add one more -- she is allowed 8, as future to the structure? Would a conditional use grant hearing she has 8 acres. Mr. Hulbert questioned what could happen in the Parcel YOU can house 3 horses. A conditional use grant hearing need to be held for use? Mr. Lee responded that on a 3 acre would have to be held if the person wanted to store a boat, etc. Mrs. Rector asked Chris Hirschboeck what their long term plans are? Chris said if they found it necessary they eventually could sell the large building, but she has worked with horses for 12 years and doesn't foresee a change. Mr. Hulbert wanted the secretary to indicate in the minutes that eventually they could plan. Ald. Sanders questioned the 60' x 120' change in size. sell the building. Mr. Schmidt wanted to go over the site site taken by the Building Department. Chairman Salentine The Recording Secretary gave the Chairman recent pictures of the condo owners. commented that he was surprised there wasn't a response from the pg. 2, Plan Commission Minutes 2/19/91 building. It was noted it will be 40' longer than the previous Chris Hirschboeck showed the members a brochure of the proposed building. Chairman Salentine asked the Recording Secretary to check the file for the size approved in the past. She found the resolution passed on November 20, 1984 for a 60' x 81' building, which was never built. Mr. Hulbert commented that the Hirschboecks have to realize that they may be stuck with this building. Chairman Salentine said he hopes this won't be the has the power to remove this structure. The Chairman responded start of another unapproved use. Mr. Honl felt the commission they haven't used it. Ald. Dave Sanders asked what will be stored in building "A"? Chris said hay and bedding for the said they could pile it and contact a nursery for pick up. They horses. There was some concern about the manure control. Chris concerned about the drainage into the waterways and the smell. are currently using it to level their ground. Ald. Sanders was It was noted that the records show ho manure be stored within 100' Of any lot line, as per Mr. Hulbert's request. Chairman Salentine asked the other members if he should abstain from Voting, since his daughter lives in the condos? The members didn't feel he should abstain. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL-FREESTANDING SIGN FOR KK FEDERAL BANK - Resolution 1IP.C. 12-91, Architectural Approval of Freestanding Sign, S63 W13700 Janesville Road, Lincoln Point Shopping Center. Chairman Salentine stated this resolution was deferred from the 2/5/91 meeting and was going before the Board of Appeals on 2/28/91 requesting a variance for'an additional 5, 1991 meeting and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Upon a voice vote the sign. Ald. Sanders moved to defer the resolution until the March motion to defer passed unanimously. The members chose to discuss this further. Chairman Salentine stated that it is their feeling to the Plan Commission to vote on the architectural compatibility that if the Board of Appeals denies this variance, it will be up The Plan Commission instructed the Building Department to obtain only. Without the variance the bank could not have this sign. a safety report concerning the way the road narrows, etc. This report should be sent to the Board of Appeals. Mr. Hulbert felt that the city's sign ordinance regulates this, the sign is not architecturally compatible with the site, and we are dealing with could provide time and temperature. Dottie felt this is a real rent a space. Mr. Honl felt that the bank needs a sign, which ended. safety hazard reading two in such close proximity. Discussion NEW BUSINESS: APPROVAL OF 2ND GARAGE STRUCTURE-JOHN SCHULTE - The Recording Secretary read Resolution I1P.C. 14-91, Approval of 24' X 26' 2nd garage structure at S71 W13445 Woods Road. Mr. Honl moved for adoption and Mrs. Rector seconded. Mr. Schulte said -~ Pg. 3, Plan Commission Minutes 2/19/91 they would use the building for storage of yard equipment no driveway. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. APPROVAL TO REZONE 18.4 ACRES SW 1/4 OF SECTION 10-DAN BARKER - The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 15-91, RSM to RSM/OPD for Barker Homes (Dan Barker). Mr. Schmidt moved Approval to rezone 18.4 acres in the SW 1/4 of Section 10 from the OPD overlay involves. This land already is zoned RSM and for adoption and Ald. Sanders seconded. Mr. Lee explained what would address that. Mr. Dan Barker spoke about the layout of the because of the concern to preserve the woods, they felt this OPD buildings being along "condo lines" and the roads privately held. He held up a colored sketch showing the buildings, green space, etc. which he turned toward the audience at the Chairman's request. Mr. Honl asked if the private road would have the city would. Mr. Hulbert asked the rental prices. They will be $600- specs for curb/gutter and be maintained? Mr. Barker said they Honl had concerns about the garages. Mr. Barker said they will $650 a month with 1.000 sq. ft.--all appliances included. Mr. be brick detail on the front and back--south and north sides with brick and gables. Chairman Salentine commented that the site plan is not the question before the commission tonight. - "_ Mr. Hulbert, who serves on the Park 6 Rec Board talked about doesn't have a formal presentation tonight, but will get back to connecting a bike path to Lannon Road. Mr. Barker responded he woods. He went on to explain the total area devoted to parking, them on the "bike path", etc. It will not go through the green space, buildings, etc. There will be some grading and they will present an extensive landscaping plan--heavier screening to the south border near the "residential" single-family housing. Mr. Danny Goetz, a resident in the area said he bought a house in 1988 and was told senior subsidized housing would be nearby. He isn't pleased with the proposed housing. Chairman Salentine gave background information. In 1987 the Common Council approved the rezoning to RSM. A compromise was Comprehensive Study Committee is looking at the area. The reached when they asked for more acreage to be rezoned. The percent of multi-family housing for Muskego (36 sq. mi. city) compared to New Berlin is low. Another resident, Debbie Brohlmahl doesn't feel this is doing a better housing job to protect the environment. Chairman Salentine felt clustering the buildings leaves 6 acres of Woods VS. using more space for each building. Resident, Dan Rauterberg presented a petition with signatures from area residents expressing opposition to the proposed apartments. The petition will be part of the file and forwarded to the City Clerk for the Public Hearing. They object to turning the city into apartment complexes. He asked if Woods Road could be turned into apartments later; he doesn't want to Pg. 4, Plan Commission 2/19/91 have the woods touched; wants it to stay RS-2; cut units in half because there are too many already. You can't see the lakes now and traffic will increase along Janesville Road. Chairman Salentine asked him why are you people petitioning against preserving the woods?? Mr. Lee said they could have more units you can do and this is upgrading the present zoning. than they are proposing on the site. The zoning tells you what He mentioned other subdivisions where they have mixed multi with single family. What is the petition addressing? At the present time this is the present zoning and the court would tell the owner he can do it. Mr. Hulbert said the decision for rezoning from single to multi was made quite some time ago and the owner would win in a court case. The Mayor is right. We are not is a "trade-off" for more green open space. The city would have changing the zoning, but allowing buildings to be closer. This to see some deed restriction to prevent woods development, if they would sell out. Mr. Robert Mueller, a resident asked the developer how long the lease would be? Mr. Barker said one year. Mr. Mueller then asked the members their views on future decisions for the city. Mr. Honl said he is looking for a balance in the area of the central city. Mr. Mueller felt it was too congested. Mr. Honl responded that the traffic study was done. A city with a population of 29,000 could handle the Racine Avenue will be a 4-lane. Dottie is looking for traffic and Muskego only has a population of 18,000. Someday will try to make it possible for as many who can buy home. There diversified housing and feels home ownership is the ideal and are levels of multi. The projections for now and with the 10 year plan are not out of line. The residents felt that with more multi comes more crime. Ald. Sanders felt there should be a afford housing--for the multi we should look at the Comp Plan. broad base. The city is facing a problem of people being able to Mr. Hulbert felt his views on multi-family were ususally the minority on the Plan Commission, but felt the Plan Commission determines what this community will be. He hasn't been happy Muskego. He feels the owner has the right to develop this land with some apartments, but quality construction is coming into housing in the lowland below the hill. with a minor zoning change. He would like to see no multiple Mae Novak, a resident on Scenic Drive said she wouldn't have bought her house in Meadow Green West had she known she would look up the hill at apartments. Tom Igowsky, who lives on Scenic Drive asked about damage control on the site? Mr. Lee talked about the Developer's Agreement which will involve the improvements, inspections made, building plans for landscaping, dumpsters, etc. --all approved by the Plan Commission. Mr. Kubuszewski, W170 58065 Green Street spoke about extra services being necessary, renters Paying less taxes, etc. I * Pg. 5, Plan Commission Minutes 2/19/91 MKS. Rector responded she is on the Comp Plan Study Committee and knows New Berlin did a study on multi-housing and found the multi paid more in taxes and were not a tax detriment. Sieger Swanson did the same study. Chairman Salentine said the state give less tax relief to the city if the city only has high income homes-- there must be low income housing to offset this. He asked for a roll call vote. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt Resolution /\P.C. 15-91 passed unanimously. Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 16-91, APPROVAL OF CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP-BEULAH SIEGER - The AppKoval/DisappKOVal of certified survey map in the NE 114 of Section 7. Chairman Salentine said there would be discussion first. Mr. Lee asked how many lots will be built before the public improvements can be put in? He felt the Plan Commission should determine how many houses should be built. He talked was present representing her. He said her daughter will get a about the 60' road dedication. Beulah Sieger's future son-in-law Hulbert asked at what point does this road get built? Mr. Lee parcel of land from this proposed certified survey map. Mr. said they would need a Developer's Agreement with financial guarantee, engineering plans, etc. There was some discussion about the driveways to the lots. The farm has its own driveway. Ald. Sanders asked if the road extends to Parcel 1 now? He said no. Chairman Salentine Eelt there should be an assessment for a public street. The owners would pay their fair share. Mr. Hulbert felt we should have a financial guarantee or put the road in now. The neighbors would have to work out the details with the road, too. (Badertschers) Mr. Lee felt we need Some policy and direction--perhaps get the Department of Public with the word "Approval" and Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice Works involved. Mr. Honl made a motion to adopt the resolution vote the motion passed. Mr. Honl made a motion to amend the reSOlUtiOn in the Therefore Be It Resolved.."subject to a note on the face of the plat stating that those lots would be assessed when the road improvement is installed." Mr. Hu1bel-t seconded. unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the Upon a voice vote the motion to amend the resolution passed amended resolution passed unanimously. BAY LAWN SUBDIVISION SOUTH PRELIMINARY PLAT - The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 17-91, Approval Of Preliminary Plat for Bay Lawn Subdiv. South (Larry Hermanson) in the SW 114 of Section 11. Mr. Schmidt moved for adoption and Mr. Hulbert seconded. There was some discussion about Dorothy Drive being extended, having sewer available off Dorothy Drive, storm drainage system and having the Public Works Committee review the plans for curb/gutter, etc. The engineers have to divert the water. Mr. Hermanson said all the lots will be one-half acre. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. - .- - e Pg. 6, Plan Commission Minutes 2/19/91 SIGNAGE FOR STATE FARM INSURANCE - The Recording State Farm Insurance, Jim Haag, 576 W17603 Janesville Road. Mr. Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 18-91, Approval of signage for present and apologized for giving such a poor sketch of his Honl moved for adoption and Mr. Hulbert seconded. Mr. Haag was Menonomee Falls. He showed the commissioners pictures of that sign. He is requesting a 4' x 8' sign just like one located in will have lettering like his other sign in the Parkland Mall. sign (standard sign size for State Farm Insurance). His sign will be placed from the base setback line off Janesville Road. There was some discussion about the permitted distance the sign Mr. Lee said he would have to move his sign no closer than 62' from the center of Janesville Road. Mr. Haag was concerned that his neighbor's sign would block his. Mr. Schmidt suggested he move it to the other end of the parking lot. Mr. Haag also said his sign would be lit with a timer. Ald. Sanders made a motion to amend the resolution to read "freestanding sign ... located no closer than 62' from the center of Janesville Road.....and the illuminated sign will have a timer to go on at dawn and off at to adopt the amended resolution passed unanimously. 11:OO P.M." Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion LAKEVIEW HIGHLANDS FINAL PLAT - The Recording Secretary Plat (Dawson) in the SW l/4 of Section 5. Mr. Hulbert moved for read Resolution #P.C. 19-91, Approval of Lakeview Highlands Final adoption and Ald. Sanders seconded. Mr. Lee said a lot could be taken out in lieu of park dedication fees or put $2,400 aside for access. Mr. Lee was asked to send a letter to the subdivider to indicate these remarks for future finals. There was some discussed fees. Chairman Salentine said it is unfair to hold up discussion about access for land to the west. Mr. Hulbert the Park Board should negotiate the easement. Mr. Hulbert this final plat. A notice should be sent to the developer and discussed "The Ridges" nearby. When the park was dedicated it was in conservency and was landlocked with no access to a road. Hulbert felt Muskego needs winter sports areas; in the past The water in springs drains into Little Muskego Lake. Mr. mostly lowland was given to the park system. Someone is interested in developing the nearby land for winter sports. asked to have the minutes reflect an easement be required. The Years ago park fees didn't exist. The Recording Secretary was amount for fees be set by the Common Council. Upon a roll call Park Board should negotiate this and identify the area and an vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. I / POND FOR LAKE POINT ESTATES - The Recordings Secretary read Resolution I1P.C. 20-91, Approval to construct a pond for Lake Point Estates, SE 1/4 of Section 10. Ald. Sanders moved for the subdivision. They want a decent pond to enhance four lots adoption and Mr. Honl seconded. Stan Potrykus spoke representing and add to the value of the subdivision. Mr. Lee questioned Stan ,?bout the sediment and silt screening on the grading plan. * Pg. 7, Plan Commission Minutes 2/19/91 Mr. Hulbert asked Stan if they intend to keep the pond at that level? He said they do, but groundwater Eluctuates. Mr. Hulbert would like to see a plan to keep the water at that level otherwise the silt will build up. This could be in the Deed with this pond, etc. Mr. Honl asked if they will use the present Restrictions. John Loughney of Public Works would be involved topography? Stan said they would. There was some discussion about the spillway needing upgrading. Stan couldn't see putting in a ditch. Ald. Sanders had some concerns about the storm sewers Lots 20, 21 and 11 6 12. Mr. Lee asked if the engineers had seen this plan with the large pond? Stan said no just the smaller plan. Mr. Honl made a motion to amend Resolution I1P.C. 20-91 to add in the Therefore Be It Resolved ...." subject to the Highway Superintendent (John Loughney) approving the spillway." Ald. Sanders seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend passed unanimously. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend the resolution passed unanimously. Stan asked if this meant they can start digging? He was told yes. Upon a roll call vote the amended resolution passed unanimously. MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS: Correspondence Regarding Schaefer Auction - Mr. Lee said the silo will be gone by May 1st or May 15th when the rest had received a letter dated 2/14/91 directed to Barrett of the requirements on the site must be met. The members also Management Company concerning their auction to remove farrn equipment and the remaining machinery being stored inside. Delta Group-Muskego Industrial Park - Mr. Hulbert the company is in compliance with DNR regulations, the emissions expressed concern about the complaints. Chairman Salentine said problem has been improved and the business will be expanding- The Building Inspection office is to check the landscaping requirements at Delta. There will be an Open House next week €or members to view the site. Emerald Park - A Public Hearing may need to be held Molter to see if the city can override the zoning. Mr. Lee said before the Plan Commission. They will have to work with Atty. zoning. There was some discussion about protecting the church they would need a Conditional Use Grant Hearing to obtain 1-2 property, as well as other properties. The landfill will buy properties. The city could tell the State Siting Committee no again. On February 26th at 8:OO A.M. there will be a Closed Session meeting. 8 Pg. 8, Plan Commission Minutes 2/19/91 FLOW - Chairman Salentine gave an update. ADJOURNIBNT: Mr. Honl moved to adjourn the meeting at 10:20 P.M. and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adjourn passed unanimously. Respectfully submitted, Cheryl Schmidt Recording Secretary / cs