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PCM19901218'@ PLAN COMMISSION CITY OF MUSKEGO MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON DECEMBER 18 1990. Acting Chairman Daniel Hilt called the meeting to order at 7:OO P.M. "_ PRESENT: Acting Chairman Daniel Hilt, Edward Raimann Jerald Hulbert, Alderman Dave Sanders, Darl Honl. Dottie Rector. Jack Schmidt and Director Gerald Lee. MINUTES Mr. Hulbert made a motion to approve the Minutes of the December 4, 1990 meeting and Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion carried. OLD BUSINESS: - AN EXISTINFC~TTTGE ON LOTS ~~-~.~~-LARS~~~"SSUBDIV-I~O~~~S~-P~ CONDITIONAL USE GRANT TO PERMIT A NEW HOME ALONG WITH ALBERT -- Chairman Hilt told thecommissioners this Resolution #P.C. 202-90 was on the floor for discussion from the last meeting. It was deferred to enable the lake association to hold a meeting to consider this proposal. Joseph Albert stated he is the architect for the Jankowski family. They are asking for a 0 visit in the summer. The City of Muskego's laws permit guest conditional use for an existing cottage for their children to houses. Mr. Raimann wanted Exhibit A and B explained. Mr. Lee . stated the 100' width was required and in order to meet the two widths a flag type of land division is necessary to be conforming. Plan A would have to flare 30' to abut E. Shore Raimann asked about the building placement as indicated on the Drive and then you could put two residences on those lots. Mr. two exhibits? Mr. Lee said Plan A shows only the proposed home would require relocation to Lot 23 and Plan B shows the existing Lee felt Plan A was a better plan as far as offsets because Plan cottage or proposed home would require relocation to Lot 22. Mr. B would situate the house too close to the lot line. Mrs. Rector said Plan B would most likely allow the house to be located closer to the lake. Mr. Ray Christenson of the Lake Denoon Association spoke about this resolution being postponed from the last Plan Commission meeting to enable the association to meet on December 11th. They are opposed to the plan which calls for the construction of the house on the lot owned by the Jankowski family because it would Recording Secretary a "Certified Copy of Resolution of Board of set a dangerous precedent. Mr. Christenson presented the Directors" (recorded in the association minute book) stating opposition to the petition of Robert Jankowski to have the cottage and dwelling co-exist on the lot (signed by Ray Christenson, President). The statement said this would set a e- * Page 2, 12/18/90 PC Minutes ~ dangerous precedent which would allow virtually every property Adverse consequences due to increased density, added pressure owner on Lake Denoon to seek approval for similar projects. qualities and consequent loss of property values. Mr. Albert upon the Lake, detriment to the environment, loss of aesthetic stated neither he nor the Jankowski's were invited to the association meeting. He said the Jankowski's have a great little cottage which will someday have to be removed. The family has maintained this property for over 54 years. Mr. Morry Dawes, a neighbor said he built a home on the lake and discussed how much land he had and how he had divided it. He questioned the laws then and now. Another resident complimented the Plan Commission have disappeared and nice homes have been built. This cottage on monitoring the development in Muskego. Shanties and cottages would be a regression. Mrs. Jankowski spoke about all the not be so structured. Ken Werra. a neighbor was concerned about remodeling done to the cottage and the taxes paid. Things should the growth, as well as another neighbor Mob Leonard. who felt Rice spoke about his support for this proposed use. as a lake this would set a precedent for multiple housing. Atty. George property owner--he wasn't hired by the Jankowski family. He felt the cottage is immaculate and desirable. Many people aren't members of the lake association and don't agree with them. He feels the density isn't an argument. Mr. Albert asked what his overlay -- the department thought that the current proposal would amount of money spent to improve a non-conforming structure. Mr. involve less density. There was some discussion concerning the Hulbert discussed the lot sizes and positions of the structures. Mr. Raimann reiterated the fact that Plan A and Plan M are the city's proposals not the Jankowski's. If they can find a way to divide the lot. they should pursue it. Mr. Hulbert was opposed. Acting Chairman Hilt told the members a "no" vote would be a vote for disapproval. Upon a roll call vote the motion to disapprove the resolution passed unanimously. other options were. Mr. Lee said they could petition for duplex NEW BUSINESS PROJECTING SIGN-AL BIWER - The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 206-90, Approval of request for 2' x 3' projecting sign on the building at W180 S77YY Pioneer Drive. Mr. have a fluorescent tube inside. Upon a roll call vote the motion Honl moved for adoption and Mrs. Rector seconded. The sign will to approve the resolution passed unanimously. PRELIMINARY " PLAT-LAKE POINT ESTATES, GOLDEN MEADOWS JOINT VENTURE - The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 207-90. Disapproval of preliminary olat for Lake Point Estates in the SE 114 Section 10. 'Mr. Schmidt'moved for adoption and Mr. Honl seconded. Mr. Stan Potrykus told the members a new afternoon which was different from the one they received in the preliminary plat had been delivered to the department that Pg. 3, Plan Commission Minutes 12/18/90 mail with their packets. The revised plat was displayed as an exhibit. A plan was sent by Stan to the City Engineer's for because of possible traffic problems. Stan said he could design review. Mr. Lee discussed limiting the access off Woods Road discussion about creating Resolution 207-A-90 for approval with the plan to limit the access in the final plat. There was some these restrictions. Acting Chairman Hilt told the members a motion to disapprove passed unanimously. Mr. Hulbert made a "yes" vote was a vote for disapproval. Upon a roll call vote the motion to create Resolution 207-A-90 with the word "Azoval" and subiect to the final plat having the items the City Engineer has "" " listed corrected and 'the Woods Road street access ;est;icted. Lots 30 and 31 would have a street (Seafare Pass) going through the middle from Woods Road. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the newly created Resolution 207-A-90 passed unanimously. SecretarvTeXEsolutiK j1P.C. 208-90. AuDrOVal of reauest for TEMPORARY SIGN FOR LAKE POINT ESTATES - The Recording ~~ 2 ~ ~~ 6' x 12' temporary sign advertising Lake bbint Estates 'in the SE seconded. Mr. Mike Kaerek of Kaerek Builders said the two color 1/4 Section 10. Mr. Honl moved for adoption and Mrs. Rector adopt passed unanimously. sign will be on Lot 30. Upon a roll call vote the motion to ~~ ~ PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SUBURBAN HEIGHTS - The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 209-30, Approval of preliminary ". plat for. Suburban Heights (Clarence Froelich property) in the SE 1/4 Section 5. Mr. Raimann moved for adoption and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Chairman Hilt asked for discussion. Mr. Lee said one of the city engineer's concerns was about the width of proposed Tans Drive. The members felt 60' should be maintained. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. USE OF STRUCTURE-DUANE WHITEHOUSE - The Recording Secretarv read Resolution t1P.C. 210-90, Approval of use for structure at W219 S7436 Crowbar Road. Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption and Mr. Raimann seconded. Mr. Whitehouse said his son a shop and storage with heat in the building. He will install a lives in New Berlin and this structure will basically be used for 16' door to enable any piece of equipment to be pulled in -- large farm equipment, bulldozer and his son's 6 yard dump truck and backhoe. Mr. Lee was concerned about enforcing the storage in the shop, 6 yard dump truck and dozer because of what happened in the past at Yaeger's. Under Miscellaneous Business on the agenda tonight is a item to discuss the change in policy/ordinance for sheds--rules and uses. Mr. Lee feels there may be a better way of sizing -- performance code. He would like to pass out an information sheet to the applicants who come to the Building Department. Mr. Honl questioned if the land is strictly agricultural, do they have to go through the same procedure? Mr. Lee responded if strictly agricutural. no. But when buildings are no longer used for the original intent. some L. Pg. 4, PC Minutes 12/18/90 thought should be given to how the use will be enforced. Mr. Hulbert agreed we need to set limits. Mr. Schmidt asked if Mr. Whitehouse will have a commercial business? Mr. Whitehouse said he would like to work on his own equipment there. The members felt the list submitted would be sufficient to monitor the adopt passed unanimously. equipment, if necessary. Upon a roll call vote the motion to REqUEST TO IDENTIFY AND DESCRSE HAZARDS-RYAN TERKACE MANOR - The Recording Secretary read Resolution 4jP.C. 211-90, " "" Request to identify and describe any specific hazards at 595 W13410 Ryan Road. Mr. Schmidt moved for adoption and Mrs. Rector seconded. Mr. Lee told the members this community living group has another facility at 586 W13988 Priegel Drive, Muskego. This request from the Department of Health & Social Services in Waukesha was forwarded to him from the City Clerk. Mrs. Rector viewed the area and would like to see the pond fenced off as it had contacted the health department to check on the well and constitutes a possible hazard to the residents. Mr. Lee said he septic inspections--his department is not required to make unanimously. inspections. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed 0 TEMPORARY SIGN-COUNTRY BROOK ESTATES - The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 272-90, Approval of request for 8' x 8' temporary sign advertising Country Brook Estates moved for adoption and Ald. Dave Sanders seconded. The sign will subdivision in the SE 1/4 of Section 16 by Don Miller. Mr. Honl not be illuminated. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. " LAND DIVISION-GLENN HANSEN - The Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 213-90, Approval of land division sketch SW 1/4 Section 8. Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Mr. Hansen was present with the buyer for the parcel of land. The owner will have to provide evidence of an on-site disposal system capability. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. APPROVAL - OF USE FOR 32' X 45' STRUCTURE-ROBERT BARWICK - The Recording Secretarv read Resolution I1P.C. 214-90. Approval of ___ use for 32' x 45' structure on Parcel 1 in the SW 1/4 Section 8 (land presently owned by Glenn Hansen). Mr. Hulbert moved for operate a landscape business and park trucks in the building on adoption and Mr. Honl seconded. Mr. Barwick stated he wishes to by Mr. Barwick in his letter kept inside. Mr. Lee stated that over 3 acres. Mr. Honl would like to see all vehicles as listed the ordinance doesn't permit commercial equipment to be parked on the property. Mr. Hulbert is concerned about whether there will @ have one employee. Other people could be employed but not report be any employees? Mr. Lee said Mr. Barwick would be allowed to directly to the business location. There was some discussion a pg. 5, PC Minutes 12/18/90 - about constructing the garage before the house. Mr. Hulbert felt the "bare bones" type of construction should be dressed up. Mr. Barwick will not have a sign. Ald. Dave Sanders wanted to look at the policy for notification of very large second garage structures where the garage is built before the house. Neighbors should be given the chance to voice their opinions. Ms. Rector moved to defer the resolution and Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to defer the resolution to enable the Recording Secretary to notify the residents within 100' of the property (until the January 15th meeting) passed unanimously. CITY-OWNED LOTS 39 AND 40 IN THE DREIKOSEN PLAT - The Recording Secretarv read Resolution f/P.C. 215-90, Approval of - city-owned Lots 39- and 40 in the SE 1 /4 Section 9. Mr. Honl moved for adoption and Ald. Sanders seconded. Chairman Hilt, who attends Finance Committee meetings told the members the Strasser's. who are adjoining property owners, were interested in purchasing property. The Park and Rec Board feels in the next 10-20 years they may need this property and now would like to keep it all. The Park Director feels we need the space. The would like to use it for their weed cutter. They looked at it as Police Department uses it for storage and the Lake Association offsetting the costs. The Plan Commission's action of approval to sell would put money in the General Fund. The city doesn't have a firm offer yet. Mr. Schmidt commented that you can't change the full price of the lot, so how much will this build up the fund? It is almost worthless but of value to the Strasser's. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. " MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS: " Mr. Lee told fie members there is a need to review the size and Discussion change in policy/ordinance ___ for sheds--rules h uses - use of sheds (2nd garage structures). especially when people have a lot of acreage and wish to put commercial equipment on the property. His department had prepared a form to be considered to help better determine if the applicant has to come before the Plan Commission. Specific guidelines are necessary. The ordinance may have to be changed at the Rules, Laws and Ordinances Committee. The members made several suggestions to draft a copy of this form for discussion at a later meeting. __- ADJOURNMENT: Mr. Hulbert made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 9 40 P.M. and Mr. Honl seconded and upon a voice vote the motion passed unanimously.(Next meeting scheduled for January 15. 1991) cs Respectfully submitted. -6 Cheryl Schmidt Recording Secretary