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"e CITY OF MUSKEGO
PLAN COMMISSION
MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 4, 1990
Mayor Wayne Salentine called the meeting to order at 7:OO P.M.
PRESENT: Chairman Wayne Salentine, Edward Raimann, Jerald
Director 'Gerald Lee.
Bulbert, Alderman Dave Sanders, Darl Honl, Jack Schmidt and
ABSENT: Dottie Rector.
MINUTES Mr. Schmidt made a motion to approve the Minutes of the
August 21, 1990 meeting. Ald. Sanders seconded. Upon a voice
vote the motion passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS:
APPROVAL OF CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP-GERALD KOZEY - The
Recording Secretary read Resolution IP.C. 151 - 90 . Approval of
Honl made a motion to adopt and Mr. Raimann seconded. Chairman
certifiez survey map creating 2 parcels-NW 114 Sect& 10. Mr.
Salentine stated that the Utility Committee has granted him the
right to have sewer availability for the lots. Upon a roll call
vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT-BREANN RIDGE - The
Recordina Secretary read Resolution 0P.C. 152 - YU , Approval of
'Gerald Kozey. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to adopt and Mr. Schmidt
preliminary plat fbr Breann Ridge Subdivision-NW.1/4- Section 10,
unanimously.
seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed
APPROVAL ZND'GAFUGE STRUCTURE-BOB WIZA - The
Recording Secretary read Resolution #P.C. 153
garage structure at W197 S7325 Hillendale. Ald. Sanders made a
-40, Approval of 2nd
Goti& to adopt and Mr. Honl seconded. Mr. Lee stated that the
area involves approximately 16+ acres. Wesley Niemcek, W196
S7550 Hickory Lane, a neighbor, stated the current zoning is RS-2
and that has not changed. Some of the equipment stored there
other construction equipment in the future to complete his
includes a dump truck, bulldozer, two front endloaders and maybe
building project. He questioned the use of this equipment in a
residential district and doesn't want to see a truck stop on the
property. Wolfgram, a representative of Mr. Wiza's, responded
that some of the equipment will be moved into this second garage
structure and that all construction equipment will be removed
after the garage is built. He has a John Deere tractor and may
wish to purchase a cornpicker. Wes Niemcek would like to see a
limit on the equipment and outside storage, as well as a deadline
for the house building. Chairman Salentine asked Mr. Lee what
the zoning permits? Mr. Lee responded that he could have a
farming use on his 16+ acres.
Pg. 2, Plan Commission Minutes 9/4/90
Ms. Melody Przedwiecki, W197 S7498 Ridge Road, a neighbor,
expressed concern since she gets comments about the area looking
originally stated. She feels the area is devalued.
like an Industrial area. The horses never materialized as
Wolfgram responded Mr. Wiza has spent $15,000 in trees by the cul
de sac, the fill has been hauled and seeded, backfilled, dirt
piles will be leveled later--the area has been improved.
Ms. Blenda Treba, W199 W7476 Hillendale, a neighbor, stated the
property looks better and the house will be a benefit in the
neighborhood.
Mr. Niemcek cautioned the city is being misled and a date should
be established as to when equipment must be removed before the
building permit issued. Mr. Lee responded the building permit is
Wolfgram said the footings are in and Mr. Wiza wishes to work on
good for 18 months and when that time is up he can renew.
the inside of the building this winter. No fill permit is
necessary because a building permit has been issued.
Mr. Hulbert thought the garage structure should be large enough
to store all equipment or it should be removed. Mr. Schmidt felt
after the equipment has been used to dig, push the dirt,
equipment or store it inside after the construction process is
removed. Mr. Lee said they would be notified to remove the
finished. There is no time limit on the erosion permit, as long
as no erosion occurs on the site. The fencing can't be higher
than 6'. Mr. Raimann couldn't see a problem with the
be stored inside. Mr. Schmidt made a motion to amend the equipment. Wolfgram commented that any equipment they have will
resolution to state that all agricultural or other type of
equipment will be stored inside by January 1, 1991. Ald. Dave
Sanders seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to amend
passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt
the amended resolution passed unanimously.
backfill, grade and seed the construction equipment should be
APPROVAL TO REZONING-NW 114 SECTION 29, BOB SCHAEFER
The recordinn secretarv read Resolution i1P.C. 154 - YO.
Approval/Disapproval t; rezone 36 acres of the Kaebiich property
NW 114 Section 29 from EA/R-1 to EA/R-l/OOS. Chairman Salentine
stated that first there would be discussion before inserting
approval or disapproval in the resolution. Mr. Bob Schaefer
explained his request for rezoning. First, he plans to store all
his equipment inside; he rents farm land; he'll have no animals;
he is involved with cash cropping. He wants to store equipment
and have a repair shop. Chairman Salentine stated that 00s
overlay zoning gives the Plan Commission control over what uses
will be permitted on this property. Mr. Bob Zielinski, an 0 adjacent property owner, said he was told most of the land was in
a secondary floodplain and wanted to know if all the components
have been looked at since he was concerned with drainage.
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Pg. 3, Plan Commission Minutes 9/4/90
Mr. Lee said it is not in a floodplain. The only reason the
resolution was written approval/disapproval was because of
he's concerned with the fact there will only be one pole barn for
exclusive agricultural and special use (00s). Mr. Zielinski said
all this equipment. Mr. Jim Kosir, W195 S9804 Racine Avenue
thought 45 pieces of equipment wasn't compatible; this would
create a bad traffic pattern on a curve, as it is hard pulling
out of their driveways now. The speed limit is 55 mph near their
drives; the diesel noise and fumes would be a nuisance; how can
all the listed equipment be stored inside a 60' x 171'
building? What will happen to the land in the future?
residentialjrural area atmosphere. Mr. Allan Rickert, W195 S9850
Industrial areas would be more suited. He likes the
Racine Avenue, commented 1- trucks are a safety hazard and belong
in the Industrial Park where people expect them. People pass on
the gravel now. 2-the overlay zoning is for small business and
not compatible with residents. 3-the business could expand, 4- there would be noise & diesel pollution, 5-property would be
devalued.
Mr. Harold DeBack commented that as a Muskego resident he is in
agricultural use they could come in with equipment, but now the
favor of the rezoning. If someone bought the land for a, Plan Commission can regulate the 00s zoning with a site plan and
would affect the Comprehensive Plan? Chairman Salentine said he
restrictions. Mr. Honl wanted to know how this rezoning request
has talked with'Gene Kovacs and he said they have not discussed
the plans for agricultural land yet.
Mr. Hulbert said Bob has been up front with us and given a list
of equipment. His main concern is what may happen in the future-
so it is important to have control. Chairman Salentine discussed
a turning lane access from the county. Mr. Lee responded a
permit would have to be obtained from the county. Mr. Schaefer
should look into a safe placement of the culvert.
Ald. Dave Sanders discussed 00s zoning (light commercial). He
questions whether it is the correct operation for this area. If
Avenue? Mr. Schmidt questioned whether this building is big
Bob wants to expand, do we want this type of business on Racine
enough? He wants a second building later. Chairman Salentine
stated he would have to come before the commission for approval
of the 2nd building. Mr. Honl asked what is to prevent this
property from being a subdivision (35 acres). He's not in favor
of this. Mr. Lee responded he would have to apply for rezoning
for a subdivision. He could have other houses on this property
through EA zoning. Ald. Sanders was concerned with replacing
trucks with larzer ones and whether the other building would be
new construction or old? -
'a Pg. 4, Plan Commission Minutes 9/4/90
There was some concern over the possibility of a future snowplow
business. Mr. Lee stated they would have to come back to the
commission for a roval. At this point Mr. Raimann moved to
insert the word 'ipproval" and Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a roll
call vote the motion to insert approval passed unanimously.
Upon a roll ca1.l vote the motion to adopt the resolution passed 4
voting "yes" and Mr. Honl and Ald. Sanders voting "no".
to 2 with Chairman Salentine, Mr. Raimann, Hulbert and Schmidt
BLDG. & SITE PLAN-NW 114 SECTION 29-ROBERT SCHAEFER
The recor-ecretary read Resolution IIP.C. 155 - 90 , Approval of
building and-site plan-to construct a 171' x 60' storage shed.
Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Mr.
Schaefer stated he is trying to place the culvert in the best
location, plant trees, construct berms and he has presented a
Raimann said he feels more comfortable with one building now.
list of equipment to be stored along with his site plan. Mr.
The commission would see how well this use goes, then consider
another building. There would be no guarantee another building
could be added. Mr. Hulbert commented the size will have to be
considered since one tandum truck is approximately 25' x 10' in
size. Mr. Schaefer responded his list was for now and the
an old structure to the new building and thought a much larger
future. The commissioners didn't look very favorably to adding
structure should be built. Mr. Schmidt felt the commissioners
should defer to figure out the correct space, e.g. 200' x 60'.
The sprinkler code will have to be considered also. If it is
commercial and would exceed 10,000 square feet, it would have to
be sprinklered. There would have to be absolute separation. Mr.
Lee was asked to explain the difference between agricultural and
00s zoning. Mr. Lee was asked to work with Mr. Schaefer to
arrive at a correct size and prepare an explanation of the
difference between the two uses. Mr. Hulbert suggested the
commissioners give Mr. Schaefer some guidelines: 1-can't
substitute pick-up trucks; 2-basic use requirements remain the
same; 3-corn hauling trucks; 4-discuss turning lane with County;
5-check culvert placement for best traffic flow; 6-consider
saltlsand storage requirements; 7-materials must also be stored
inside. 8-Fuel storage would have to be underground Chairman
Salentine commented that by 1999 Racine Avenue could be a 4-
lane. Mr. Hulbert moved to defer this resolution until the
September 18th meeting and Mr. Schmidt seconded.
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There was a request for a short recess at 9:20 P.M.
The meeting resumed at 9:40 P.M.
'GLENN HANSEN APPROVAL CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP-SW 114 SECTION 8 - The recording secretary read Resolut!on #P.C. - 90. Mr. Raimann moved for adoption and Mr. Honl seconded.
Pg. 5, Plan Commission Minutes 9/4/90
There was some discussion concerning the Sewer Committee's
approval. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed
unanimously.
DONALD BOTTONI
APPROVAL OF BLDG. & SITE PLAN, MUSKEG0 INDUSTRIAL PARK
90, Approval of 50' x 60' buildine. Ald. Sanders moved for - - The recording secretary read Resolution I/P.C.
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adoption and Mr. Schmidt seconded. M;. Bottoni stated he is
currently operating out of his residence. Mooney & LeSage
referred him to the Muskego Industrial Park. He is the sole
operator of the business, but may have one employee. He showed a
colored sketch of the steel and timber Morton pole style building
he wished to construct. It is 48' x 60' with 2' overhangs,
He'll come back with signage, lighting and landscaping plans.
gutters and downspouts. He'll have a shop area and show area.
Mr. Hulbert felt the building needed a little dressing up with
decorative shutters and awnings. Mr. Bottoni felt other
businesses in the Ind. Pk. were of similar design. Mr. Schmidt
made a motion to amend the resolution to require that the windows
in this building have awnings and shutters installed to give it a
more aesthetically appealing look. Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a
Raimann, Hulbert, Honl, and Schmidt voting "yes" and Mayor
roll call vote the motion to amend passed 4 to 2 with Mr.
Salentine and Ald. Sanders voting "no". Upon a roll call vote
the amended resolution passed 5 to 1 with Mr. Hulbert voting
''no''.
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RETIREMERT COM MUNITY - The Recording Secretary read Resolution
Section 2, Lutherans, Inc. for the Elderly. Mr. Honl made a
motion to adopt and Mr. Hulbert seconded. Mr. Art Thiede of
Lutherans, Inc. for the Elderly said they will be back for
approval now. There will be 52 underground parking spaces in the
landscape and signage approval. He is asking for lighting
provided) Mr. Thiede showed floor plans. The north wing will
south wing plus surface parking.(approx. 101 parking spaces
have storage lockers for each apartment. He'll provide a 10'
wide elevator with the covered front entrance up to the grade
for easy access for the handicapped, wheelchairs, etc. Each
apartment has its own entrance to the hallway with the first
floor having patio doors and the second floor having porches.
The exterior will be earthtone brick with almond (or light color)
aluminum siding. The dumpster will be fenced in. There will be
20-21 lights installed with 5-6 on all night, plus one light on
Tess Corners Drive. Mr. Lee informed him they must have a city
street light. Mr. Lee expressed some concern about the pond.
Mr. Thiede said they will berm the east lot line. Upon a roll
call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
APPROVAL OF BLDG., SITE & OPERATION PLAN-STONEY CREEK
.. - 90, Approval of bldg., site & operation plan SE 114
Pg. 6, Plan Commission Minutes 9/4/90
AMERICAN SURVEYING CO
Resolution #P.C. 159 90
. , INC. - The Recording Secretary read
Section 8, Town of Norway. Ald. Sanders moved for adoption and
, Approval of certified survey map NW 1/4
Mr. Raimann seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt
passed unanimously.
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS:
APPROVAL OF EXTRATERRITORIAL CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP-
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Rieger. Mr. De Back was present. Mr. Lee requested he give him
Discussion regarding correspondence from Wallace & John
a copy of the permanent easement information he had for our
office files.
ADJOuRNllENT:
Mr. Schmidt moved to adiourn at 11:OO P.M. and Mr. Raimann
seconded. Upon a voice-vote the motion passed unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Recokding Secretary
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