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PCM19900717~m CITY OF MUSKEG0 PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON July 17, 1990. Mayor Wayne Salentine called the meeting to order at 7:lO P.M. PRESENT: Chairman Wayne Salentine, Jerald Hulbert, Alderman Dave Sanders, Darl Honl, Dottie Rector, and Director Gerald Lee. ABSENT: Edward Raimann and Jack Schmidt. MINUTES: Mr. Honl made a motion to approve the Minutes of the the motion passed unanimously. July 3, 1990 meeting and Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote OLD BUSINESS: SKETCH SUBDIVIDING PARCEL SE 1/4 SECTION 16-DON MILLER - Resolution #124 - 90) Ch airman Salentine stated that i'f the Plan iommission approves the sketch it is subject to the Common Council approving the rezoning. Mr. Lee stated that if you follow the recommendations of the City Planner, the commissioners on Dr. Joseph Mangiamele's July 16, 1990 report (City Planner). would have to vote for denial. The Chairman requested discussion The planner suggested P.U.D. but got into other issues. Mr. Honl said he didn't agree with the total layout. Chairman Salentine stated we should look at the issues -- the sketch and P.U.D. and asked Mr. Miller if he would like to address the Plan Commission. He responded that he wished to wait to hear what the changed the layout of the front lots? He said no. Mr. Honl felt commissioners had to say. Mr. Honl asked Mr. Miller if he tWO lots should be taken out on Woods Road and make the lots bi ger to conform with the lots across the street. Chairman Sa B entine brought up the City Attorney's opinion regarding this rezoning and he informed him it must either he rezoned or be a P.U.D. The P.U.D. gives you options. There was some discussion concerning the parkway area shown on the map. Mrs. Rector commented that the property owners may wish to maintain it. Mr. Hulbert stated that as a Park Board Member, the $200 fee is not he would like to see the fee adjusted in the future. Mr. Lee realistic, since if we take $200 we could not buy park space and discussed the road reservation and the parkway north of the creek (Meadow Green). He felt there should be a study of the road system and layout. Ald. Dave Sanders felt there was some merit in backing the lots to Woods Road, as we do not need to add the the traffic congestion. Mrs. Rector felt the lot layout with berms on Woods Road, internal streets and lots backing to Woods Road would create a community feeling. Mr. Hulbert asked Mr. Lee how many lots would be allowed in RS-1, RS-2 and RS-3 zoning? RS-3 allows 93. 'm Mr. Lee determined: RS-1 allowd 58 dwellings, RS-2 allows 78 and Mr. Miller stated that he is requesting 61 lots with a lot averaging 19,000 sq. ft. Mr. Lee stated that in a P.U.D. all very comfortable with RS-1fP.U.D. and if we approve the sketch the acreage is considered. Chairman Salentine stated that he is for Resolution #P.C. 124-90, it would be premature as the zoning has not been determined in Resolution #P.C. 125-90. Mr. Miller stated that as far as the planner's report, he is open to suggestions, and if the P.U.D. is the way to go he agrees. There seems to be concern over the RS-3 rezoning. Mr. Vitt, a new property owner across Woods Rd. was present and stated he in agreement with RS-1lP.U.D. Mrs. Rector commented that she would like to see Dr. Mangiamele's not do a design, as it is a separate consulting project. Mr. Lee sketch. Chairman Salentine responded that Dr. Mangiamele will said Mr. Miller should redesign his plan and the commissioners should give him guidelines. (e.g. 58 lots not entering Woods Road individually, a 30' buffer because of heavy traffic on street and creatively use the creek to his advantage. Woods Road. Chairman Salentine stated that the plat should state Mr. Hulbert liked the idea of berms for the backyards facing there are permanent berms. There was more discussion about the lots on the creek. Mr. Honl felt that the adjoining homeowners could maintain this area -- perhaps in deed restrictions. Mr. Hulbert commented that the only negative would be if the association wasn't very active or if each homeowner cared for their area in a different way, e.g. wildflowers, animals, etc. Mr. Lee suggested a parkway be run through the land with cul de sacs. Also, he thought a road reservation should be provided. Mr. Honl made a motion to table Resolution 124-90 and Mrs. Rector unanimously. seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to table passed Miller when he prepares and submits another sketch for review: The following suggestions were made by the commissioners to Mr. 1- Prepare another sketch 2- Preserve the land abutting the channel 3- Name the subdivision 4- Both entrances should have signage to identify 6- The lots backed up to Woods Road be provided with a 30' buffer 5- A totlot should be provided 7- Decorative lighting (decorative poles), as per the Elec. Co. with a berm and landscaping. e Pg. 3, Plan Commission Minutes 7/17/90 REZONING REQUEST-DON MILLER (RESOLUTION #P.C. 125-90) Chairman Salentine stated this resolution is on the iloor. "here was a brief discussion about Mr. Miller withdrawing his Common Council Public Hearing rezoning request scheduled on July 24th and the Plan Commission's recommendation to approve rezoning property in the NE 1/4 and SE 1/4 of Section from RS-l/L (Lowlands) to RS-l/L/OPD. A new Common Council Public Hearing date will have to be established by the Recording Secretary and advertised, etc. Mr. Honl made a motion to amend Resolution #125-90 by deleting the first page and rewriting the resolution to read "Whereas, The City of Muskego upon the recommendation of the Plan property located in the NE and SE 1/4 of Section 16 from RS- Commission will be amending the district zoning map for the l/L/(Lowlands) to RS-l/L/OPD to allow single family residential development. 'I 'Therefore Be It Resolved, That the Plan Commission recommend approval to the Common Council to rezone property in the NE and SE 1/4 of Section 16 from RS-l/L(Lowlands) motion to amend passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the to RS-l/L/OPD." Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. 2ND GARAGE STRUCTURE-JAMES CASPER - The recording secretary read Resolution 1IP.C. 126 - 90 . Approval of 2nd garage structure at W151 S6841 Golden Countiy Drive. Mr. Hulbert-moved for adoption and Ald. Sanders seconded. Mr. Lee explained that Mr. Casper had called the office to state he was withdrawing his request for a second garage which is over the size permitted and instead building a 6'x14' shed. Since he didn't come to the meeting, it confirms he has withdrawn his request. He will not go before the Board of Appeals either as he will maintain the 25' distance from Koso Drive. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to table the resolution and Ald. Sanders seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to table passed unanimously. APPROVAL OF POND-ERIK TREBA - The recording secretary read 'Resolution IP.C. 12/ - 90 , Approval of pond at W188 S10411 Kelsey Drive. Mr. Honl moved for adoption and Ald. Sanders seconded. Mr. Lee stated that there is a wetland and drainage easement that should be taken into consideration in approving this site. Mr. Treba stated he is staying 25' away from the drainage easement. Chairman Salentine asked him what he will do with the spoils? He responded he will either fill in behind his house or truck it out. Mr. Lee advised him that whoever trucks it out will have to obtain a permit to do so. Mrs. Rector questioned the depth of the pond? Mr. Treba responded that the depth would be 15'-20'. The pond won't be within view of Kelsey. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. Pg. 4, PC Minutes 7/17/90 TEMPORARY SIGNS-LAKEVIEW HItiHLANDS - The recording secretary read Resolution I1P.C. 128-90, Approval of three temporary signs SW & SE Section 5. Mrs. Rector moved for adoption and Mr. Hulbert seconded. Mr. Lee stated that the resolution was written to address sign #2, which reads "Planned Unit Development" when it with no P.U.D. Mr. Schober of Lakeview Highlands stated he will is not that at this time. The Preliminary Plat has passed so far want a P.U.D. in the future and would remove reference in the sign. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously . 2ND GARAGE STRUCTURE-RAY FOELKEK - The recording secretary read Resolution f1P.C. 129-90. Approval of 2nd narane structure at S72 W12722 Tess Corners Drive '(i2 acres of laGd) Mr. Honl moved for adoption and Mrs. Rector seconded. Mr. Foelker stated this structure will be frame. He intends to build a woodworking shop for personal use, as well as store his lawnmower. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. Y EXTRATERRITORIAL CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP-AMEKICAN SURVEYING CO., 1NC.-TOWN OF WATERFOKD - The recording secretary read Resolution I1P.C. 130-90. ApDroval of certified survey mau in the NE 114 of Section 12. Mrs. Rector moved for adoptibn and Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. I .. APPROVAL OF BLDG., SITE & OPERATION PLAN OVERLOOK HAY APAKTMENTS- TERRA DEVELOPMENT - The recording secretary read Resolution I/k'.C. 131-90, Approval of building, site h operation plan for multi-family. Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption and Ald. Sanders seconded. Mr. Bob Patch, President of Terra Development introduced Doug Allis, his architect and Parker Malewski, Vice- President. Mr. Patch stated he will be meeting with the Public Works Committee on July 26th to discuss grading plans. He said he would like to meet with area residents about their grading concerns before that date, but tonight he is presenting the plans for architectural design approval. Mr. Patch referred to the will be constructing one-bedroom buildings and two-bedroom older site plan posted and compared the multi-family plan. They buildings -- not mixing one and two bedroom units in the same building. There will be attached garages with a parking stall plus 60 more stalls throughout the development for visitors. He still has the main entrance going off Janesville Road and a second entrance off Kacine Avenue. They will have a well to circulate fresh water for the pond. Mr. Patch also showed a Patch responded no. Mr. Patch said there will be some brick on landscape plan. Mr. Honl asked if there will be basements? Mr. the buildings, asphalt cedar-look shingles and gables on the garages. He showed sketches of the clubhouse where the rear will be submitted. He said there will be a putting green, lap elevation will be entirely glass. Another plan for the clubhouse e Pg. 5, PC Minutes 7/17/90 swimming pool with only 4'-5' depth--no diving board. The clubhouse will have a pool table, kitchen, bar and fireplace, weight room with bathrooms equipped with showers. Mr. Hulbert bridge room, exercise room, bike exercise room, Nordic track and would like to see tennis courts, basketball court and a playground area (at least sand area). He questioned who would use the office? Mr. Patch responded a full-time rental agent would. There still would be individual building managers. Mr. Hulbert also stated that he thought Mr. Kaimann, who was absent, had indicated concern about where the electric meter boxes are located. A comment was made that the Electric Co. dictates where they will be placed. (utilities paid by renters in addition to rent) The clubhouse would be only for the multi-family units. There was some discussion concerning the study made for school approximately 60 children for 200 units. Mr. Patch commented age children in the area and Mr. Lee figured there would be that the rents will be rather high for families, who would most likely want to purchase a home. There was some discussion about permanent berms, especially between the multi and single families. Mr. Honl expressed concern about the water level in the ponds where children would be attracted. Mr. Patch said signs could be installed on the shores of the pond. Mr. Honl would like to see stone or rock on the shores. Mr. Patch agreed it was a good idea; he said the DNR will stock the pond with fish. Mr. Hulbert expressed concern about Unit 20's access to this pedestrian lane alongside the street. Mr. Patch responded the clubhouse, as well as other units far away. He suggested a oversize the street to include a pedestrian lane for access to street would be posted with a 15 mph speed limit and he could the clubhouse, etc. Mrs. Marilyn Berger, a nearby resident, expressed her concern about the difference in grades from one portion of the development to the other. Mr. Patch responded that the final grading map will be drawn soon taking into consideration the grade differences. Some fill is needed and the final grade will show differences. There will be several phases -- the first being the clubhouse, tennis courts, golf green before September 15th. All multi- family units will go up at once in early spring -- with late winter occupancy. Mr. Hulbert asked when the animals would be removed? Mr. Patch said that they should be removed by October 15th when all the buildings will be down except the homes. Mr. Patch said there could be something in the developer's agreement to guarantee the animals will be removed and the buildings torn down. a 0 Pg. 6, Plan Commission Minutes 7/17/90 Mr. Lee would like to see silt fencing installed to watch that will take care of this. the outlet doesn't allow silt to get out. Mr. Carrity of Terra Mr. Patch also stated he has petitioned the County for two entry points and will know by the August 7th if the location is acceptable. He will present detailed building placement plans and clubhouse plans at that time, also. Mr. Hulbert questioned what percent of the buildings would be brick? Mr. Patch responded that 30% facing the road and garage fronts. The exterior will be either a cedar look siding or cedar siding. The one and two bedroom buildings will be of uniform color, design and roof lines. There was some discussion about the deed restrictions concerning no parking of trailers, campers, no outside storage, no cookouts on porches, control of dumpsters, etc. There was more discussion concerning the retention pond. Mr. Patch said they will drill a well to circulate the water and Mrs. Berger was concerned about her well water. The commissioners complimented Terra Development on an overall good project. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to defer this resolution to the August motion to defer passed unanimously. 7th meeting and Ald. Sanders seconded. Upon a voice vote the MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS: There was a brief discussion concerning MMSD, New Berlin's erosion control and a nearby community's annexation. ADJOURNMENT : Mrs. Kector moved to adjourn at 9:50 P.M. the meeting and Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adjourn passed unanimously. Respectfully submitted, /e- r Cheryl Schmidt Recording Secretary