PCM19891003CITY OF MUSKEG0
PLAN COMMZSSION
MiNUTES OF JOINT SCHOOL BOARD, TOWN OF NORWAY AND PLAN COMMlSSION
MEETlNG HELD ON OCTOBER 3, 1989.
Mayor Wayne Salentine called the meeting to order at 7:45 P.M.
due to the late arrival of Mr. Seegar Swanson.
PRESENT: Chairman Wayne Salentine, Jerald Hulbert, Alderman
Daniel Hilt, Darl Honl, Jack Schmidt, Director Gerald Lee,
Muskego-Norway Schools, Jim Heiden of the Muskego-Norway Schools
Seegar Swanson, Financial Consultant, Supt. Don Platheson of the
and a representative from the Town of Norway, Mr. Joseph
of the Press attending.
Bellante, who is the Town Supervisor. There were three members
ABSENT Plan Commissioners Edward Raimann and Dottie Rector.
Mr. Gerald Lee discussed the new construction figures
detail listing all the new subdivisions and the number of units for the last year and the type of developments. He went into
ab available. Mr. Lee talked about the sewer system expansion. -
which was presented at the request of the city and the school
district. The intent was to aid the Plan Commission and City
Council as it deals with public policy related to community
growth. He commented that growth is necessary to keep taxes
down. During a lenghty presentation Mr. Swanson went on to
Swanson for such a thorough and understandable report.
explain his report in more detail. Mr. Matheson complimented Mr.
ADJOURNMEYT:
Mr. Seegar Swanson distributed copies of his report
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There being no further questions or discussion the meeting ended
at 9:OO P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Cheryl Schmidt
Recording Secretary
ClTY OF MUSKEG0
PLAN COMMISSION
MLNUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON OCTOBER 3, 1989.
Mayor Wayne Salentine called the meeting to order at 9:OO P.M.
PRESENT: Chairman Wayne Salentine, Jerald Hulbert, Alderman
Daniel Hilt, Darl Honl, Jack Schmidt and Director Gerald Lee.
ABSENT Edward Raimann and Dottie Rector.
MINUTES Mr. Honl made a motion to approve the minutes of the
September 19, 1989 meeting. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice
vote the motion passed unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS;
JOHN GROH REZONlNG
Chairman Salentine stated that this matter was back
before the Plan Commission to react to concerns expressed at the Common Council meeting. Mr. Groh presented a new proposal to
a buffer as possible to stay a greater distance from the area
reduce his 8-family units to only 9; has tried to provide as much
residents. He proposes constructing duplexes on three lots; on
problems. He started with 92 units and now has 67 units. Mr.
families near the tavern because of the noise and parking
Honl would like to see the roofs dressed up a little bit.
Mr. Miech, a neighbor stated that he did a study on the growth of
the area and feels there is too much density, especially on
outlines what the Plan Commission is to take into consideration
Racine Avenue. He quoted a section of the ordinance which
when determining the best use for the area. He was also
concerned that the single family homes were being de-evaluated,
whether this project would be a P.U.D. or just straight zoning?
as per Dr. Mangiamele's report. Mr. Jim Heiden questioned
He also felt Mr. Groh could remove another 8-family. Mr. Groh
responded that he wants straight zoning. Mr. Hulbert stated that
he would vote "yes" if this was a Planned Unit Development
(P.U.D.) because of better control over the site plans. Mr.
contrary to Dr. Mangiamele's report noted on Page 2 where it
Scott Garland, a neighbor felt that Mr. Groh's new proposal was
also questioned why Mr. Groh didn't gear his project to elderly
states there be no more than 68 units if you have RSM zoning. He
housing, if that is what Muskego needs? He also thought that the
Comprehensive Plan should be implemented first before the development. Mr. Groh responded that he didn't want to be tied
to renting to one particular age group---just the general public.
Hillendale, as he feels it would be a problem selling single
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Chairman Salentine responded that this report is just one
fragment of the Comprehensive Plan. After some discussion Mr.
Groh decided to change his plan and will construct single family
houses on both sides of Hillendale and take one 8-family out plus
the rezoning request would be from RS-2 to RSM/OPD. Mr Groh was
informed that he will need to submit a new plan and rezoning
request for another hearing before the Common Council. Mr. Lee
will work with the developer to advise him on the correct zoning
to be implemented. The neighbors and commissioners agreed that
development. Mr. Honl made a motion to table Resolution #P.C.
this was the best solution to the problems with the
carried. The recording secretary was directed to create
133-89 and Mr. Schmidt seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion
Resolution #P.C. 191-89 which would include the new rezoning
request and the fact that there would be only single family
houses on both sides of Hillendale and eight 8-family
buildings. Mr. Honl made a motion to adopt the resolution and
Mr. Schmidt seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt
passed unanimously.
DISCUSSION/PLANNER'S REPORT FOR VANGUARD BUILDERS
been deferred to give Vanguard Builders a chance to get a
outline of his report. He has viewed the site and examined the
Planner's Report. Dr. Mangiamele was present and read the
development restrictions. He recommends against the rezoning as
requested by the applicant. There were several considerations.
duplexes are out of context with both the existing development
He would like to see the lots no smaller than 20,000 square feet,
and that permitted under the zoning plan, the extension of Lannon
and he feels it could be left as it is with a P.U.D. approach.
Drive in accordance with the highway plan needs specific goals,
There was some discussion about the area not being in the Sewer
Service Plan and the fact that the city does not want mound
systems. Mr. Lee stated that close to the year 2000 the city or
county would be developing this area and it would be included in
the Sewer Service Area. Both Chairman Salentine and Mr. Schmidt felt that this was a poor road layout and that Lannon Road should
be developed; there is a problem with the house in the path of
developer should have been in attendance to discuss this the proposed roadway. Chairman Salentine stated that the
matter. Mrs. Salmieri stated that her mother, Mrs. Baas would
like to sell or remodel her house. She was told that her house
is of little value, as it is in the path of the roadway. Mr.
Robert Stack stated that he wanted to extend East Drive and take
Commission didn't feel that was a good solution.
the traffic through the subdivision nearby.(Marlan Meadows) The
Chairman Salentine stated that Resolution 1lP.C. 177-88 had
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Ald. Hilt made a motion to insert the word "disapprove" for
"the Department of Planning & Development be directed to request
Resolution %P.C. 177-89 and amend the resolution- to read that
SEWRPC to determine road alignment for Lannon Drive extended and
to comment on the Sewer Service Area since a portion is not in
the Sewer Service Area and report back to the commission at a
later date. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion
carried unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt
the amended resolution passed unanimously.
ARCHLTECTURAL APPROVAL OF ClTY ENTRANCE SLGNS 4 .. -89 regarding t e City Entrance
an additional sign for logos near the proposed information booth
Signs was discussed. Mr. Klenz stated that they propose to build
to be located on the parking lot at the Lincoln Point Shoppine,
Center next spring. Each group is to be approached about their
colored picture of the sign to view at their meeting. Chairman
logos. Ald. Hilt requested that the Common Council have a
Salentine stated that we must reaffirm our motion for Resolution
we are reaffirming the approval and adding the words "old sign to
148-89. Mr. Schmidt moved to amend the resolution to read that
remain until the additional sign for the organizational plaques
seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend carried
is installed in the Lincoln Point Shopping Center". Mr. Hulbert
unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to amend the
resolution passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS;
POND APPROVAL FOR J. JOHNSON - The recording secretary
read ResoTution #184-89, approval of pond at S90 W18202 Parker
Lee explained that Mr. Johnson is aware of the erosion control
Drive. Mr. Schmidt moved for adoption. Mr. Honl seconded. Mr.
requirements and wants the pond for aesthetics. Upon a roll call
vote the motion passed unanimously.
ROAD VACATION - WM. SCHMlDT (Klenz) - The recording secretary
read Resolution #P.C. 185-89, Approval of road vacation in the SW
1/4 of Section 1. Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption. Mr. Schmidt
seconded. Mr. Lee stated that this is a large parcel of land and
the petitioner knows that the vacating costs are his
responsibility. Upon a roll call vote the motion passed
unanimously.
SKETCH FOR LAND DIVISION-REINHOLD BAEHRINC, - The recording
secretary read Resolution #P.C. 186-89, Approval of sketch for
Elderly). Mr. Honl moved for adoption. Ald. Hilt seconded. A
land division in SE 1/4 of Section 2 (Life Lutherand Inc. for the
representative for Life Lutherans Inc. for the Elderly stated a community, but first must obtain proper zoning with OPD overlay that they plan three different phases for this retirement
or they will not go through with the land division. They have to
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retain 2.2 acres for tax exempt purposes. All ground dug will
Natural Resources to fill Parcel 3. Parcel 3 will be a buildable
remain on the premises; they have talked to the Department of
no more than a two-story structure with 50 one to two bedroom
lot; a berm will be provided to the west. They propose to build
division of Parcel 4, if Parcels 2 & 3 need an easement. After
units for sale. Mr. Lee expressed concern about the land
adopt passed unanimously.
some discussion a roll call vote was taken and the motion to
2ND GARAGE STRUCTURE-GARY SENGER - The recording secretary read
(stable) at S104 W18665 Keiser Lane. Mr. Schmidt moved for
; - , Approva of 2nd garage structure
adoption. Mr. Honl seconded. The recording secretary was
requested to read a letter from a neighbor, Mr. Thurner, who was
opposed to the structure. Mr. Senger stated that he owns 3+ acres and plans to install a 30' x 50' 2-story metal building.
His neighbor, Mr. Price has a 24' x 56' 2nd garage structure. It
was suggested that Mr. Senger move the building closer to the
objections. The Plan Commissioners felt that there were too many
house and "out of site". The other neighbors have no
unanswered questions and they would like to view to the site.
Mr. Hulbert made a motion to defer Resolution #PC. 187-89 and Mr.
This will be back on the agenda in two weeks.
Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion passed unanimously. a
MEADOW GREEN WEST ADDITION #1 - The recording secretary read
Resolution W.C. 188 89
moved for adoption. Mr. Schmidt seconded. Mr. Stan Potrykus
presented previously. He is working with the Corps of Engineers
spoke for Gregg Boehm. He stated that this plat is exactly as
to resolve their concerns, as well as those expressed by Ruekert & Mielke. Mr. Hulbert brought up the question of the bike path,
which should have been addressed in Phase I of the project. He
would like to see that determination made now. Mr. Potrykus said
he wasn't sure if it was going to be a bike path or a road going
through. Mr. Boehm needs assurances that a road wouldn't go
as a 20' wide easement with 8' of asphalt or hike chips? Mr. through later. Should this strip be a part of the plat process
Boehm decided to consult his attorney concerning the liability.
Mr. Hulbert suggested that the city look into the insurance
issue. The Common Council has not discussed the bike path yet.
Mr. Hulbert made a motion to amend the resolution to read that a
bike path should be dedicated to the city from Scenic Drive to
the Mi. Elec. Power Co. right-of-way. Ald. Hilt seconded. Upon
a voice vote the amendment passed with one dissenting vote by Mr.
Schmidt. Upon a roll call vote the amended resolution passed
with one dissenting vote by Mr. Schmidt.
- , Approval of preliminary plat. Mr. Honl
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CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP-JOHN BANNA- The recording Secretary read
Norway, NW 1/4 of Section 17. Ald. Hilt moved for adoption. Mr. Resolution #P.C. 189-89, approve certified survey map for Town of
Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion passed
unanimously.
SKETCH FOR LAND DIVISION-THOMAS JEWELERS - The recording
secretarv read Resolution //P.C. 190-90, approval of sketch for "_~ ~ ~
land division in the SW 1/4 of Section 9. Mr. Honl moved for
adoption. Mr. Hulbert seconded. There was some discussion
both on the property. There is also an access off Pioneer.
concerning the two access drives on Janesville Road, which are
also a brief discussion concerning the 120' road Right-of-way.
Parcel 2 would have a single story office building. There was
They would review the building, site and operation plan at a
later date. Upon a roll call vote the motion passed unanimously
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MISCELLANEOUS BUSIRESS:
Comp Plan - The Comprehensive Plan is in the process of
another stage towards completion.
be required for new residences. There was some discussion as to
Trees - Mr. Lee stated that standard street trees would
what type of bond would be required. They may put the
put the responsibility on the buyer as part of the sales contract
requirement in the Developer's Agreement. The developer could
or it could be in the Subdivider's Agreement. They could post
the $200 street bond when the permit is taken out. Mr. Lee would
continue to work on this matter.
ADJOURNMENT:
Ald. Hilt made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 11:55 P.M. and
Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion carried
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Recording Secretary