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PCM19890919PIN! COMMISSION ClTY OF MUSKEG0 MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 19, 1989. Mayor Wayne Salentine called the meeting to order at 7:OO P.M. PRESENT: Chairman Wayne Salentine, Edward Raimann, Jerald Hulbert, Alderman Daniel Hilt, Darl Honl, Jack Schmidt and Assistant Director Gene Kovacs. ABSENT Dottie Rector. MINUTES Mr. Hulbert moved to approve the Minutes of the September 5, 1989 meeting. OLD BUSINESS: CHAIRMAN SALENTINE ANNOUNCED THAT THE JOHN GROH REZONING REPORT WOULD BE DISCUSSED WITH A PRESENTATION BY DR. MANGIAMELE LATER AT APPROXIMATELY 9:OO P.M. NEW BUSINESS: APPROVAL OF TYME MACHINE FOR ST. FRANCIS SAVINGS & LOAN The recordine secretarv read Resolution #P.C. 172-89. Approval of amended site''p1an for ;elocation of the Tyme Machine for S74 W17100 Janesville Rd. Ald. Hilt moved for adoption. Mr. Schmidt stated that the terminal for the Tyme Machine is now inside the seconded. A representative from St. Francis Savings & Loan office. There have been customer complaints about traffic congestion and pedestrian problems when people drive-up. They are proposing to construct a self-contained building; he showed pictures of the non-lit decals that would be applied to the machines. They would have high pressure sodium lights. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. . .. APPROVAL OF 2ND GARAGE STRUCTURE-KEN PETTIS - The recordingc - , Approval of second garage structure, S103 W20752 Heather Ln. Mr. Honl moved behalf of the owner. He stated that Mr. Pettis will match the for adoption. Mr. Raimann seconded. Ald. Dave Sanders spoke in boat and lawn and garden equipment. Ald. Sanders stated that he siding of the garage to the house and he will store a fishing had spoken to the residents in the area and they were not in opposition. Mr. Larry Freitag, a neighbor stated that the Homeowner's Association had not approved the second garage Homeowner's representative. Mr. Freitag was informed that any structure. It was approved by a man, who proclaimed himself the resident of the subdivision can enforce their deed restrictions for a period of up to one year. This Plan Commission is only concerned with the zone district requirements -- it meets those unanimously. requirements. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed Page 2, Plan Commission Minutes 9/19/89 DISAPPROVAL OF SKETCH FOR LAND DIV:SION-STEFAN:AK/NERBY Chairman Salentine stated that there would first be discussion Of this matter. Mr. Gene Kovacs, representing the Planning h Development Department stated the size requirements for the two parcels. Lot A is 3,500 square feet below the 40,000 square feet requirement for sewered lots in an RSE zone district and is less than half the size of the 80,000 square feet requirement for unsewered lots under RSE zoning. Lot 2 is 75,000 square feet and a non-conforming legal lot. The Plan Commission may grant variances to lot sizes according to the city's subdivision ordinance. The lots are not in the Sewer Service Area. Mr. Stefaniak spoke in favor of this land division and stated that there are four existing homes not having any more land than he does. He divided the land in two because the sewer bill would be higher than the worth of the land. He is out of the sewer service area. Mr. Raimann stated that in the past the Plan Commission used a 10% variance guideline and he can't vote for it under these conditions. Mr. Kovacs responded that the land division ordinance does not state a specific percentage for variance purposes. Chairman Salentine felt that the Plan Commission needs a legal opinion to research this matter. Mr. great. There was some discussion about these being substandard Schmidt commented that he doesn't recall granting a variance so lot and that perhaps they could be laid out differently. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion carried. Mr. opinion as to whether these lots would be grandfathered in and he Schmidt moved to defer Resolution 174-89 until we can get a legal would have the right to substandard lots. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to defer passed unanimously. The Chairman stated that this resolution will be on the October 3rd agenda. 0 Schmidt made a motion to insert the word "disapproval" and Mr. APPROVAL OF POND-WM. TEWES - The recording secretary read Resopal of pond at 5102 W18560 Kelsey. Mr. Schmidt moved for'adoption. 'Mr. Hulbert seconded. Mr. Honl asked Mr. Tewes if there is an overflow outlet. He said both sides of the lot. This lot for the pond was split off a there was. The area is 3 acres and his father owns property on Mr. Kovacs stated that this land is not shown in the wetlands. certified survey map. The reason for the pond is for wildlife. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. MR. POTKYKUS COULD BE PRESENT. RESOLUTION 176-89 WOODSIDE ESTATES WAS SET ASIDE UNTIL APPROVAL TO REZONE BASS PROPERTY-VANGUARD BLDRS - The recording secretary read Resolution #P.C. 177-89 Approval to Bass property. Chairman Salentine stated that there would first rezone NE 1/4 of Section 4 from RS-1 to RS"2/0PD for the Clarence be a discussion of this matter. Mr. Pete Bailey of Vanguard Page 3, Plan Commission Minutes 9/19/89 Bldrs. stated that this is in a conceptual stage. This is an irregular shaped piece of property and it makes good economic sense for development, plus the development is viable for the city. The commissioners asked Mr. Bailey several questions. The condos would be maintained by an association, would have garages, units. There may be some phasing with the condos. Gene Kovacs there would be no phasing of single family or multi-family stated that SEWRPC is not ready with the Calhoun Rd. extension -- questioned the fact that there will be one point of ingress and there is a possibility that it will be 4 lanes. Mr. Honl means of egress and ingress. Mr. Bailey said that he has time egress. There was some discussion as to how to provide other constraints to do the whole project or withidraw. The utilities mentioned that road dedication would be a good idea. Mr. Raimann have to be pre-engineered and sewer service brought in. It was felt there were road problems. Mr. Hulbert stated that he felt better about this new plan. Mr. Kovacs felt that we should ask the City Attorney for his opinion as to whether we can reserve that property. There is nothing in the ordinance. The house and might constitute taking of property or condemnation. A with the property in question is not included in the development P.U.D. approach would provide more give and take and there could be a single family buffer. The existing house was discussed in relation to having the road easement and the fact that the owner wants to keep .9 of an acre. The commission felt there were many existing house, 4-industrial area nearby and this matter should be sent to the planner and escrow the appropriate fees charged to the developer. The Chairman stated that there is no guarantee that this report will be back on the agenda in two weeks, but we will post it on the agenda if it is back in enough time to schedule it for the October 3rd meeting. Mr. Raimann moved to defer this resolution until we receive a planner's report and Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to defer passed unanimously. unanswered questions: 1-access road, 2-Lannon Extension, 3- APPROVAL OF SECOND GARAGE STRUCTURE-RLESEN - The recording secretary read Resolution #P.C. 118 - 89 , approval of 16'x12' 2nd garage structure for Jon Riesen at S70 W14955 Dartmouth Circle. Ald. Hilt moved for adoption. Mr. Honl seconded. Mr. Kovacs stated that the setbacks meet all zoning requirements for offsets and separation from the residential home, and he intends to store residential equipment and lawn structure, 60% size requirement of the existing single family equipment. The department has not heard any opposition from the I neighborhood people notified, nor the homeowners' association. I Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. I secretary read Resolution NP.C. 176-89 Approval of Woodside APPROVAL OF WOODSIDE ESTATES-BUSHBERGER - The recording I Estates, Final Plat-Todd Bushberger. Mr. Honl moved for adoption. Mr. Raimann seconded. Stan Potrykus Page 4, Plan Commission Minutes 9/19/89 stated that no changes have been made to the preliminary plat. There is a back lot swale on the grading plan. Mr. Kovacs stated responded. This matter is before the Sewer Committee and Ruekert that all review agencies have been notified and many have 6 Mielke will have a report. They will be before the September 28th Public Works Committee meeting. Mr. Potrykus stated that SEWRPC isn't aware of the FEMA studies and map changes for the floodlines. Mr. Kovacs responded that we have mailed these map changes to the Federal government to update their maps. He will out where they are in the remapping process. Mr. Honl made a take the responsibility to follow-up with a phone call to find motion to amend the resolution to state that there should be a utility easement shown on the final plat which extends to the property to the west. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to amend passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the amended resolution passed unanimously. APPROVAL OF CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP-ACE GLASS - The recording secretary read Resolution f1P.C. 1IY 89 - , Approval of certified survey map for SE 1/4 of Section 2-Ace Glass. Mr. Schmidt moved for adoption. Mr. Hulbert seconded. After some discussion the motion to adopt passed unanimously. APPROVAL OF 22'X22' SECOND GARAGE STRUCTURE-SALESTINE - The recordine secretary read Resolution #p.c. 180 - 89 , Approval of 2nd garage structure at W174 S7482 Michi Drive-Don Salentine. Mr. Hulbert made a motion for adoption. Ald. Hilt seconded. Chairman Salentine stated that he would abstain from voting. Mr. Salentine said he would use the garage to store bikes and snowmobiles and tear down the existing 12' x 12' garage. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously with Chairman Salentine abstaining. APPROVAL OF CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP-DUERST - The recording secretarvv of Certified Survey Map, NE 1/4 of Section 7, Town of sbrway. Mr. Raimann moved for adoption. Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously. ~~~ , APPROVAL OF NON-ILLUMINATED SIGN-ASTROS HEATING - The recording secretary read Resolution #P.C. 182-89, Approval of 3 1/2' x 5 1/2' non-illuminated sign, S76 W18149 Janesville Rd. Mr. Schmidt moved for adoption. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Mr. Hulbert questioned whether the house and shop were for sale and could be split? Mr. Kovacs responded that they can't further unanimously. redivide. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed Page 5, Plan Commission Minutes 9/19/89 APPROVAL OF 1990 BUDGET-PLANNING & ZONlNG DIVISION - Chairman Salentine read Resolution #P.C. 183 89 Budget totaling $27,794.00 for the year 1990. Mr. Raimann moved for adoption. Mr. Schmidt seconded. Mr. Kovacs explained the budget and there was some discussion concerning the amount proposed for the Fees/Professional Services and the Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Kovacs requested more money be added since the city is growing and the planner and studies of the Comprehensive Plan will take more time and money to handle. Mr. Raimann moved to amend the budget to add $2,000 to the Fees/Professional Services account. Mr. Schmidt seconded. Upon a roll call vote there were defeated. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt the budget three votes for and three votes against. The motion was passed unanimously. - , Approval of 1990 OLD BUSINESS: RSM in the NE 1/4 discussed at 8:45 P.M. with the citizens representative, Jim ot Section 5 - John Groh. This matter was Discussion of Planners Report for rezoning from RS-2 to Heiden present. Dr. Mangiamele submitted his planner's-report and explained that he had talked to the developer, Mr. John Groh, the citizen representative, Mr. Jim Heiden and went to the site. He sees this study as a component of the Comprehensive Plan, which looks at the existing neighborhood and then the property developed. Dr. Mangiamele went on to explain the outline of his study. He feels that two access points from the cul de sac would be better. A P.U.D. (Planned Unit Development) approach would control the area to be developed. He showed everyone the sketch the developer had prepared indicating where commented that the developer had not cut down on the density very the rnulti and single family buildings would be located. Mr. Honl much. Mr. Hulbert felt that this project could be done in phasing and that both sides of Hillendale should be single family residences. The developer stated that it would be costly to develop only part of the project as the cost for utilities would be too high. Mr. John Mesich read a statement concerning the notification of tonight's meeting this matter, the District Alderman's vote at Council and his concern with spot rezoning. notified by his office, had talked to the City Clerk that Chairman Salentine responded that Mr. Jim Heiden had been afternoon and been in contact with Dr. Mangiamele about the meeting date and time. Other area residents expressed displeasure with the possibility of increased traffic and apartment buildings on Hillendale. One neighbor was concerned about the adequate water supply in his well~if there were new wells for the apartment buildings; another neighbor was concerned about the wells and what recourse they would have if they had problems. Chairman Salentine responded that the wells having problems in Muskego were a result of coliform counts. There was some discussion about the traffic on College and Racine. "_ " Page 6, Plan Commission Minutes 9/19/89 Dr. Mangiamele stated that New Berlin recently rezoned commercial land across the road from this and re-did their Comprehensive Plan. And concerning the traffic problems, Racine Avenue will he 4 lanes in the future. Roger Johnson (developer) spoke about the problems he felt needed to be addressed after the last meeting. They were; 1- the school issue, 2- RS-2 zoning. They have over requirements, they are shown the actual size of the buildings on 12 acres of property, which is well below the zoning the sketch, shown garages, paving, they will be all masonry, he felt 88 units would equal 44 children, he is not proposing to be commercial in the land to the west on the sketch -- rather it project has no impact on the RS-2 zoning. They have tried to should be designated "non-residential use". This particular lessen the impact on Hillendale. Highway 15 is now 1-43 and the area is well travelled already. There is a gravel pit across the street -- this is not a strictly "residential" neighborhood. Racine Avenue is used for through traffic often at 55 mph. He wanted to emphasize that he is a proven builder and seller of homes and has tried to tackle the density request from Dr. Mangiamele and worked out several plans before submitting this not jeopardize the area residents wells. His plan for buildings particular one to the commission. He feels private wells would generates less children. Mr. Schmidt stated that he has been going over the planner's report and needs more time to read it back on the Plan Commission agenda in two weeks. Chairman and go to the site. Chairman Salentine stated that it would he Salentine asked Dr. Mangiamele if he felt the land was properly next few years. He sees having a P.U.D. which would put the zoned? Dr. Mangiamele responded that it would not be RS-2 in the proper density in place, specify the types of houses (brick/wood) -- it is a more organized way of looking at it. RSM would allow 8 unit per acre. There are disadvantages for single family development. The negatives are; 1- it is Industrial with the nearby in New Berlin, 3- on the east in multi-family, 4- there is quarry located across the street, 2- there is Commercial land filled wetlands in the proposed development. It was emphasized that the City Council has the authority to grant the rezoning not the Plan Commission. Chairman Salentine asked Roger Johnson if he could push his multi-family building over to the west of the development? Mr. Johnson responded that the soil conditions are possible. Chairman Salentine stated that the development of this restrictive, he has positioned the buildings as far west as area is very important for the image of the City of Muskego, as much interest in this area in the past. Mr. Meich stated that he it is in an area at the entrance to the city. There hasn't been wouldn't fight a logical development, but doesn't feel apartments should be visible to the area residents. There was a comments that perhaps duplexes could be made out of the large buildings and a different road system devised. Mr. Honl asked what would Page 7, Plan Commission Minutes 9/19/89 become of the gravel pit when it no longer produces gravel? The answer was it could be could become a landfill. Ald. Hilt said density will get past the Common Council. Mr. Raimann felt that that if he was speaking for the Council, he doesn't think the it would be better to look at the front views of duplexes on Hillendale rather than their backyards which would have outside storage. Ald. Dave Sanders commented that in his opinion there could be duplexes and 4-8 family buildings. The Plan Commission then directed the developer to take another look at the project and try to incorporate some of the site design recommendations which were discussed. They indicated that they would consider a revised plan and possibly make a recommendation at a future Plan Commission meeting. There being no further questions or comments, this discussion ended at 11;30 P.M. MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS: COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REPORT AND DISCUSSION - Mr. Kovacs presented a detailed reDort and outline of the plannine. process for updating the City's' Comprehensive Plan. The process' includes the analysis of data for each element of the plan, setting goals and objectives for the future, and developing strategies to attain them. Mr. Kovacs explained the process could take approximately a year to complete and would involve city staff, the city planner, and possibly a planning sub-committee comprised 0 of city officials and community representatives. He stated that the data collection and mapping work has already begun. The Planning and Development Department will coordinate the process and keep the commission appraised of the progress. prepared by Mr. Gerald Lee to clarify the amount of brick work that was proposed when they submitted their building, site and operation plan. Mr. Hulbert differed with the statement saying he thought it was 50% brick to be placed on the apartments. ABJOURNMENT: Hr. Raimann moved to adjourn the meeting at 12:OO P.M. midnight. Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion passed unanimously. DURHAM MEADOWS APARTMENTS - Mr. Kovacs read a statement Respectfully submitted, Cheryi Schmidt Recording Secretary I cs