PCM19890815CITY OF MUSKEG0
PLAN COMMISSION
MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON August 15, 1989.
Mayor Wayne Salentine called the meeting to order at 7:OO P.M.
PRESENT: Chairman Wayne Salentine, Jerald Hulbert, Alderman
Daniel Hilt, Darl Honl, Dottie Rector, and Director Gerald Lee.
ABSENT Jack Schmidt and Edward Raimann.
MINUTES Ald. Hilt moved to approve the minutes of the August
lst, 1989 meeting. Mr. Hulbert seconded.
OLD BUSINESS:
DISCUSSION OF STONERIDGE LANDFILL - Resolution AP.C.
131-89 - #S
back on the agenda. Mr. Lee stated that this project was granted
Resolution BP.C.4-85. Stoneridge Landfill (Waste Management)
permission to remove clay as covered in a previous request in
will not have to come back to the Plan Commission for
permission. The project is in the topping off stage to restore
the site. There will have to be another public hearing if they
start another clay extraction. It was noted that they have
approval to only remove a few trees, so as to provide screening.
Chairman Salentine stated that it is his understanding that the
But, with further research it was discovered that they have had
petitioner came and without research was placed on the agenda.
an extraction permit since 1985. Being that there were no more
Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to table passed
questions, Mr. Hulbert moved to table Resolution #P.C. 131-89.
unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS:
APPROVAL OF MINI WAREHOUSES-MERFERT - The recording
secretary read Resolution #P.C. 147-89 Approval of mini
warehouses for Allan Merfert at S65 W13964 Janesville Road. Mr.
Honl moved for adoption. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Mr. Lee
discussed the letter from the Tess Corners Fire Department (Chief
Dibb) concerning their general review of the proposed mini-
warehouses and the fire wall. Mr. Merfert stated that he met
with the Fire Chief and intends to put up a fire wall. There was
some discussion about the setbacks. Mr. Merfert also felt that
barrier from Janesville Road now. He doesn't need additional
there will be no change in the grade. He has a row of trees as a
screening; if the area near his business is developed they will
area 20' along the entranceway. There will not be any gravel.
provide their own screening. He intends to asphalt the driveway
Mr. Merfert added that if he wishes to have a temporary sign,
he'll return to the Plan Commission for approval. Mr. Hulbert
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moved to amend the resolution to add the following conditions:
2- Three exterior security lights be installed.
1- The hours of operation be from 8 a.m. until 8 p.m.
4- Maintain the existing screening from Janesville Road.
3- Asphalting be completed by August 1990.
Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to amend the
resolution passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion
to adopt passed unanimously.
REPLACEMENT OF CITY ENTRANCE SIGNS - The recording
secretary read Resolution #P.C. 148-89 Architectural approval to
replace city entrance signs with new signs by Muskego Chamber of
Commerce. Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption. Mrs. Rector
Mr. Bill Mattson presented a colored drawing of the proposed
seconded. Muskego Chamber of Commerce members, Mr. Bob Klenz and
entrance signs. Mr. Klenz stated that the size would be 5'x14'
and they intend to install the first sign on the Lincoln State
Bank property (Janesville h College Avenue). They want to move
the present location of the poles back 100'. Mr. Mattson stated
that the sign will have raised letters and pictures to give it an
appearance of depth, be painted and waterproofed. They were
thinking of eliminating the club logos, as they aren't
maintained. Mr. Honl was concerned about not have the logos on
the entrance signs as he felt people identify with these signs.
In the future the Chamber of Commerce would like to have a
community booth manned by people with information on who to
contact, as well as maps and brochures. Ald. Hilt mentioned that
he had spoken with Pete Theis of the Parks Department, who had
expressed concern about the man-hours need for cutting the grass
and the upkeep of the sign painting, as they would have to be
artistically done. Mr. Klenz responded that they would use a
decorative gravel and he would be happy to meet with the Parks
Department regarding the maintenance. They shouldn't need to be
repainted for 5-7 years. Mr. Klenz added that they intended to
place the old sign on Hwy. 36 for westbound traffic to see.
agreement from the State. Mr. Honl moved to amend the resolution
Chairman Salentine stated that they would need to get an
Bank property is to be erected at this time with the possibility
to read that only one sign in the location of the Lincoln State
of indirect illumination and any additional signs will need Plan
Commission approval. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll call
a roll call vote the motion to adopt the amended resolution
vote the motion to amend the resolution passed unanimously. Upon
passed unanimously.
CHANGE IN TOPOGRAPHY-2 ACRES ON MYSTIC BY GOLDEN
c CONSTRUCTION - The recording secretary read Resolution #P.C.149-
Mystic Drive (W152 S8001 Mystic) by Golden Construction-Elroy
89 Approval of request for change in topography for 2 acres on
Kosobucki. Mrs. Rector moved for adoption. Mr. Honl seconded.
Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
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LEGAL LOT STATUS-DUAINE LANGFELDT - The recording
secretary read Resolution #P.C. 150-89 Approval of request for
legal lot status for S73 W16610 Janesville Rd. Ald. Hilt moved
for adoption. Mr. Hulbert seconded. There was some discussion.
Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP-CITY OF MUSKEGO, SE 1/4 SECTION 17
The recording secretary read Resolution WP.C. 151-89 ADDrOVal of
request for certified survey map for SE 1/4 of Section'i7 by the
City of Muskego. Mrs. Rector moved for adoption. Mr. Honl
seconded. There was a brief discussion. Upon a roll call vote
the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
LANDSCAPING, SIGNAGE h OPERATIONAL PLAN-BANKER WIRE h
IRON WORKS, INC. The recording secretary read Resolution #P.C.
152-89, Approval of landscaping, signage h operational plan,
Enterprise Dr., Muskego Industrial Park Addition ill. Mrs. Rector
moved for adoption. Ald. Hilt seconded. It was noted that the
sign will not be freestanding and there will not be any outside
storage. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed
unanimously.
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LAND DIVISION, HAROLD DE BACK, NE 1/4 OF SECTION 32 The
ing secretary read Resolution j1P.C. 153-89, Approval of
ivision for Harold De Back NE 1/4 of Section 32. Mr.
Hulbert moved for adoption. Mr. Honl seconded. Mr. Lee stated
that there will be a public hearing on September 12 concerning
the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
the rezoning. There was some discussion. Upon a roll call vote
BLDG., SITE h OPERATION PLAN-CLARK OIL The recording
secretary read Resolution j1P.C. 154-89, Approval of Building,
Site and Operation Plan, S73 W16680 Janesville Rd. Mr. Hulbert
moved for adoption. Mr. Honl seconded. A representative from
Clark Oil stated that the building will stay in the same location
but will have a new facade. They are planning to screen their
dumpster and do the necessary landscaping. Mr. Lee asked if the
changed. Ald. Simmons questioned the entryway. He felt that it
driveway will remain in the same place. It will not be
should be widened. Clark Oil is planning to talk to Waukesha
County to request an acceleration/deacceleration lane be added to
enable traffic to move more efficiently. Mr. Hulbert questioned
the way the salt is stored and made a motion to amend the
and sales area, as well as the above ground tank. Mrs. Rector resolution to require the screening of the outside salt storage
seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to amend the
resolution passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion
to adopt the amended resolution passed unanimously.
CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP, TOWN OF NORWAY-GILSON - The
recording secretary read Resolution t1P.C. 155-89, Approval of
Certifiei Survey MHp for NW 1/4 of Section 5, To& 0% Norway,
Page 4, Plan Commission Minutes 8/15/89
Randall & Mary C. Gilson. Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption.
Mr. Honl seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
RESOLUTION #P.C. 156-89 Ald. Hilt moved to defer until
all interested parties were present. Mrs. Rector seconded. Upon
a voice vote the motion to defer passed unanimously.
CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP, TOWN OF NORWAY-LIBERTY DEVELOPMENT
The recorrf - . Approval o
Certified Sukey Map fbr NE 114 of Section 18, Town of Nbrway-
Liberty Development. Mr. Honl moved for adoption. Mrs. Rector
seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed
unanimously.
2ND GARAGE STRUCTURE-SCHLABOWSKE - This resolution had
been deferred. The recording secretary read Resolution #P.C.
156-89 Approval of 30' x 48' 2nd garage structure at W127 S9189
N. Cape Rd., Jan Schlabowske. Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption.
Ald. Hilt seconded. Mr. Lee informed the commissioners about Mr.
be heard on August 24th. Mr. Schlabowske stated that he
Schlabowske's request for Board of Appeals variances which will
purchased three adjoining lots. He owns his own auto business on
125th and Hampton in Butler, and does all his restoration work
there. The cars to be restored would be his own personal
collection. The garage will be the same tan color to match his
house and it will he heated to protect his expensive cars. Mr.
used for commercial purposes. Mr. Schlabowske assured him that
Dave Krutz, a neighbor, expressed concern that this garage not be
it would not. Mr. Hulbert ask if there will be screening. Mr.
Schlahowske responded that he had spent $8,000 for 150 shrubs and
wouldn't build anything that wasn't aesthetically pleasing. Mr.
trees near his inground pool which is in the same location and he
Lee asked if he intended to sell any adjoining lots. He
responded that the lot he could sell doesn't pass a perc test and
the third lot is less than one acre in size, which is too small
for a house. Chairman Salentine asked Mr. Lee what would happen
citations would be issued and the matter could go to court. Ald.
if this became a business operation? Mr. Lee responded that
Dumke was present and stated that the people he contacted were
concerned about the size of the structure and the possibility of
a business operation. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt
passed unanimously.
CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP, TOWN OF NORWAY-LIBERTY DEVELOPMENT
The recording secretary read Resolution j1P.C. 158 89
certified survey map for NE 1/4 of Section 18, Town of Norway,
Liberty Development. Mr. Honl moved for adoption. Mrs. Rector
seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion passed unanimously.
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PRELIMINARY PLAT-LAKE BRITTANY ESTATES #2 - The recording
secretary read Resolution #P.C. 159-89, Approval of preliminary
plat for a 3 lot division, Lake Brittany Estates #2. Mr. Hulbert
moved for adoption. Mr. Honl seconded.- Mr. Mortimore explained
that part of the shoreland/wetland had been filled in in
accordance with the permit from the Corps. of Engineers and
permission was needed to divide Outlot h5 into 3 lots. Upon a
roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
SIGNAGE h LIGHTING-AL BASSE - The recording secretary
read Resolution KP.C. 160-89. Approval of sianaae and liahtina to
Alvin Basse, S70 W16050 Janesviiie Road. Mr.; Honl moved”for .
adoption. Mrs. Rector seconded. Mr. Lee explained that the wall
sign conformed to the sign guidelines. Mr. Hulbert asked what
the quality of the freestanding sign would be? Mr. Lee stated
that it would have to meet the sign guidelines. Mr. Hulbert
made a motion to amend the resolution to state the that
freestanding sign be constructed in an artistic manner compatible
to the wall sign. Ald. Hilt seconded. Upon a roll call vote the
motion to amend the resolution passed unanimously. Upon a roll
call vote the motion to adopt the resolution passed unanimously.
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS:
0 JOHN GROH, DEVELOPMENT NE 1/4 OF SECTION 17 - Ald. Hilt
briefed the commissioners and others on the Common Council’s
Public Hearing. He stated that they were concerned about the
impact on the schools, traffic congestion, size and density of
the structures (wanted single family units) with perhaps 6-family
They sent the proposal back to the Plan Commission for more study
units that look like big houses, provide screening and berms.
to appease the people involved. The number one concern was the
density and amount of units in the area. The Plan Commission
comment that the Plan Commission should ask the developer to
should use our planner and get an unbiased report. There was a
inform the commissioners about how he intends to use the rest of
the land he owns adjoining this development. Chairman Salentine
stated that it has been the policy that the petitioner pay the
Scott Garland, wanted to emphasize that this planner not be a
$600 minimum fee for the planner’s report. A concerned neighbor,
person who has anything to do with Muskego, so as not to be
biased. He wanted to know what type of information the planner
would provide? Chairman Salentine responded that Dr. Mangiamele
is the city’s planner. He is a teacher at U.W.M. and is a
planner for other communities like Oconomowoc. The other planner
could be the Southeastern Regional Plan Commission, but they are
often very busy. The issue now isn’t whether to rezone, but to
look at the density. Getting fresh ideas is important. After
the report is back the Plan Commission would review it and then
it would go back to the Common Council for action. Chairman 0 Salentine stated that multiple ‘housing is coming to Muskego, and
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a developer has presented a proposal for starter homes for a
certain segment of people who want to live here. This is not a
get the planner's report back in two weeks. Scott Garland felt
quick and easy process. Mr. Lee stated that we may be able to
that would not be enough time to fully study the impact on the
city. Ald. Simmons stated that residents must be open to changes
and he asked Mr. Groh if he was willing to compromise? Mr. Groh
said he would. Ald. Harold Sanders stated that he had only
received a few complaints before the Council meeting. Mr. Lee
discussed the comprehensive plan and how this affects multiple
zoning. Dolores Pelzek expressed concern about the affect on the
Mill Valley School and the increase in taxes, especially for the
retired residents. Chairman Salentine commented that the P.U.D.
(Planned Unit Development) approach is the best to follow for
a personal appearance. Mr. Hulbert stated that he did not
this development. Mr. Garland would like to see the planner make
contact people in the area. It is his understanding that the
planner would have discussions with the petitioner, who is paying
for the study. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to hire a city planner
to study this development and to prepare a report to present in
person to the Plan Commission at a future meeting, and that the
area residents have a representative, Mr. Jim Heiden, to meet
with Dr. Mangaimele to express their views on the project before
the study is written. Mrs. Rector seconded. Upon a roll call
vote the motion to hire a planner passed unanimously.
ACE GLASS PRELIMINARY CERTIFIED SURVEY - Mr. Lee stated
that this sketch was revised versus the "L" shape which was
access. The commissioners agreed. previously proposed. They are working with the county for
ORDINANCE FOR APPEAL BOARD POWERS - The city attorney is
in the process of upgrading the ordinance. The Rules, Laws and
Ordinances Committee recommended that the ordinance be changed.
The Board of Appeals cannot override the Common Council. The
Plan Commission is usually working as an administrative not
legislative body. This will be back on the September 5 agenda in the form of a resolution.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE - On June 23, 1989 the Blue
Chip Committee approved the City of Muskego's grant. Mr. Lee
suggested that a questionnaire for the Plan Commission be
showed an updated map and discussed the census map. Mr. Lee also
prepared to indicate their priorities. For example, they could
needed for higher density housing, etc. We have to identify the
focus on protection of open spaces, wetlands, what areas are
needs of the community.
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ADJOURNMENT:
Mr. Honl moved to adjourn the meeting at 10:15 P.M. Mr. Hulbert
seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion to adjourn passed
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Recokding Secretary
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MANGIAMELE ASSOCIATES
DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES August 11, 1983
Mr. Gerald P. Lee,
Zoning Administrator
City of hskego
City Hall
Iluskego, YI. 53150
Dear Mr. Lee:
subdivision and An estimated costs, I would like to ruggeat a procedure that
In response to your letter of August 2nd. requesting a review of a proposed
might be useful to the City.
In order that I maintain a professional approach and represent only the City's
whatever time is necessary to review these .ppliC&ItiOnS. The developer should not
interest in tnese matters, it le neceesary for me to be in the position to give
on the estimated tlme needed for reviev.
be placed in the position of withdrawing an application or submitting one based
I would suggest that the developer deposit $500 with the City to cover reviev
costs and professional rervices at the the a subdivision is suhitted to the
City. When the subdivision is referred to me for review, I will give it an
objective review keeping in mind the goals and interests of the City. I will
bill the city for the rervices as they are expended. Uy contract will be with
the City and not the developer as often the planner needs to take a strong position.
The $500 deposit will be required of a11 developers. Ihia my or my not cover
a11 expenses in every case. In certain caaea where very little the is required
the developer may obtain a rubstanrial refund. In other cares where the process
goen on and on, the developer may be required to place an additional deposit.
I believe that the present ordinance pcmitr thin arranagement and I vould recom-
mend that thie be the way the City ertablfah thir procue beginning with this
firrt case.
1 feel that under the process that 1 have outlined here that I can bent perform
in profearions1 capecity and provide the beet rervicu for the City.
I am however, rubmitting only for the City's use an esthted coat for pre-
ljminary review of the rubmitred proposed development. Thi. will be under
reparat. letter an it is a separate but related subject. The coat may run over
or under my utimate. Therefore, I rtrongly urge the City to require the $500
deporit and not get into what the actual costs are likely to be with the developer. e
MANMAMELE ASSOCIATES 1'1 DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES 8H
Augurt 12, 1983
Mr. Gerald P. Lee
City of hrkego
Zoning Adminiatrator
City Hall
hskego, UI. 53150
Dear Hr Lee:
To review the proposed subdiviaion that you aent me on Auguat 3rd under an
estimated coat rituation ir difficult to do, an the future reactions by the
City Plan Conmission and the developer are not predictable.
However, to perform thia rervice for the City under the procedure outlined in
my letter of August lltll, I estimate that the preliminary review and report on
this sketch will cost rome $360 and will not exceed the $so0 I would suggest sa
a deposit with the City. This wuld include a peraonnal appearance before the
Plan Conmission as well.
Thio ia not a bid. I Bee this as an on-going service to the City of hskego 8s
the City'a city planner. However, if other planning rervicea or estimates are
being rought of other profcsaionala for thia particular review, I would question
the propriety and ethical character of much a procedure and would not make my
rervicer available st the above utimatdcort or any coat. I ree performing
these rervicea M the City'. on-going planner. If that me not the cage. my
fees would be at a higher rate and only available under other arrangments.
I am alao assuming that all information that the city ha# on thia rituation will
bc readily available to meadthat I rhall receive uhatever cooperation from
city rtaff that la required.
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I believe that the applicant rhouldrepuired to make a $SO0 demit firat even
though he may be told that the coat may be considerably less. Hin deposit
ia an acceptance on hi. part that he will pay whatever the City charged him up
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to $500.
I hope thi. will be ureful to pu in thir matter. Please contact me, if you
have any further queationr.
City Planner
Joe Mngiamele,
cc. Uayor Uayne Sal .entine 'D