PCM19890718CITY OF MUSKEGO
PLAN COMMISSION
MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON July 18, 1989.
Mayor Wayne Salentine called the meeting to order at 7:26 P.M.
PRESENT: Chairman Wayne Salentine, Edward Raimann, Jerald
Hulbert, Alderman Daniel Hilt, Darl Honl, Dottie Rector, Jack
Schmidt and Director Gerald Lee.
MINUTES Mr. Schmidt moved to approve the minutes of the June 20,
1989 meeting. Mr. Honl seconded and the motion carried
unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS:
FISCHER-2ND GARAGE STRUCTURE - Chairman Salentine stated
that this resolution was deferred to enable the members to look
at the property. The recording secretary read Resolution #102-
89-Approval of 2nd garage structure, 576 W15131 Roger Drive-
Clarence E. Fischer. Mr. Schmidt stated that he had gone out to
view the property and talked with the neighbors, who said that no
work has been going on in the garage or yard since the last
meeting. Ald. Dumke stated that he had contacted a majority of
Ald. Dumke thought perhaps a smaller garage would be better. Mr.
the residents, who told him they didn't want a garage there.
Lee stated that the Plan Commission has the authority to approve
sheds over 120 square feet in area, as under 120 square feet
would constitute a shed and have to be within 3' of the lot
line. Mike Fischer, who with his father is requesting the
garage, asked what type of architecture would meeting the
approval of the commission? Mr. Lee said that the garage cannot
exceed 60% of the house. Chairman Salentine opened the
discussion to the public for comments. Terri Owen, a neighbor
he is not familiar with her deed restrictions; the city does not
said she was given restrictions for the lot. Mr. Lee said that
neighbor didn't want to see a misuse of the building and wanted
take responsibility if the deed is stricter. Tom Mashek, another
to know how the use would be enforced. A comment was made
concerning not allowing electrical service in the garage. Mr.
Clarence Fischer stated that he had been a resident for 26 years
and would like a garage to store and restore his son's collector
matching roof line with the house. Chairman Salentine responded
cars. The garage would not have windows and would have a
that the Building Inspection Department would investigate the
complaint and refer it to the Police Department for action. Mr.
Lee stated that the neighbors should keep a log as evidence for a
court case. A neighbor questioned whether or not spray painting
was allowed in a residential area? Mr. Lee responded that there
he would consider having a smaller garage? Mr. Fischer said no.
are no restrictions against it. Mr. Raimann asked Mr. Fischer if
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night. Mr. Fischer stated that there is no noise after 8 P.M.
Ald. Dumke expressed concern about noise from compressors late at
There was some discussion about restricting the hours of
operation in the garage to 10 P.M. Mr. Hulbert expressed concern
that so many neighbors were present in opposition to this
structure. He felt the garage should be smaller. Mr. Schmidt
stated that there are two issues involved in this matter. The
architectural part of the garage and the other when the neighbors
one the Plan Commission should be concerned with is the
would contact Mr. Lee with their complaints about the operation
for investigation and Police Department input. Mrs. Hart
expressed concern that she wasn't given the exact size of the
garage in her notification. It is not the policy now but the
Chairman recommended that in the future all neighbors be notified
of the size and type of construction of the structure proposed.
There was more discussion about the large size and the
possibility of planting trees to shield the garage from the
neighbors. Mr. Hulbert made a motion to amend the resolution to
restrict the garage size to 21' x 22'. Mrs. Rector seconded the
motion. Upon a roll call vote the amendment passed 5 to 2 with
discussion concerning the size. Mr. Raimann moved to amend the dissenting votes by Mr. Raimann and Mr. Schmidt. There was more
resolution to state the garage size would be 20' x 24'. Upon a
voice vote the commission voted unanimously to amend the
resolution again. Mr. Schmidt seconded and upon a roll call vote
Salentine and Mr. Hulbert. Upon a roll call vote the motion to
the amendment passed 5 to 2 with dissenting votes by Mayor
by Mr. Hulbert.
adopt amended resolution A102-89 passed with one dissenting vote
NEU BUSINESS:
RESOLUTION 113-89 was withdrawn at the applicant's
request.
SKETCH FOR ROBERT DALSBO - The recording secretary read
Resolution #114-89, Approval of sketch for NE 1/4 of Section 5-
Robert Dalsbo. Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption. Mr. Raimann
seconded. Mr. Lee informed the commission that this matter has
already been before the Sewer Committee and sewer is available.
After a brief discussion with Mr. Dalsbo, a roll call vote was
taken and the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
2ND GARAGE STRUCTURE-PLUTSCHACK - The recording
Garage Structure at W190 S7435 Bayshore Drive-Brian Plutschack.
secretary read Resolution #115-89, Approval of 12' x 12' 2nd
Plutschack stated the construction of his shed will be similar to
Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption. Mr. Schmidt seconded. Mr.
a Menard's brand shed. He'll try to keep the same lines as the
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house. He plans to store lawnmowers and other items.
Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
SKETCH FOR BASS FARM DEVELOPMENT - The recording
secretary read Resolution W116-89, Approval of sketch for
development of Bass Farm (24 acres) Lannon Rd. h Martin Dr.-
Vanguard Bldrs., Inc. Mr. Honl moved for adoption. Mr. Raimann
seconded. Mr. Pete Bailey of Vanguard Builders stated that they
propose to develop single family lots with a P.U.D. overlay for
condos. There was some discussion concerning the zoning and the
density. Mr. Lee said a petition for a zoning change would be
necessary for this conceptual plan. It will be necessary to run
an extension of Lannon Road through the property. The
preliminary plat of Marlan Meadows was mentioned. Mr. Hulbert
felt it would be good to buffer Harlan Meadows. Mr. Robert
stated that Marlan Meadows had 9 acres of open space. Mr. Lee
Stack, an adjoining property owner was also present as an
interested party. He questioned the cost of extending Lannon
Road and felt the development should be compatible to what is
there now. He doesn't want condos. Mr. Raimann recommended that
escrow funds and work with the department. Upon a voice vote
they work with a planner. Chairman Salentine suggested that he
this resolution was tabled.
2ND GARAGE STRUCTURE (SHED) EVERETT - The recording
garage structure (shed), S69 W18004 Muskego Drive-James secretary read Resolution #P.C. 117-89, Approval of 10' x 14' 2nd
Everett. Mrs. Rector moved for adoption.- Mr. Hulbert
seconded. Mr. Everett stated that he plans to remove a 12' x 24'
summer home and put up a tool shed in the rear of the lot where
adopt passed unanimously.
there is plenty of setback. Upon a roll call vote the motion to
CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP-TOWN OF NORWAY - The recording
secretary read Resolution #P.C. 118-89, Approval of
extrater;itorial Certified Survey Map for-Town of Norway-Jack
Hirshboech. Ald. Hilt moved for adoption. Mr. Hulbert
seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed
unanimously.
CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP-JOHN GROH - The recording secretary
read Resolution #P.C. 119-89. ADDrOVal of Certified Survey Map
for NE 114 of Section 5-E. Fiankiyn Preston (John Groh). *Mr.*
Raimann moved for adoption. Mr. Honl seconded. Mr. Lee stated
that the certified survey map needed corrections concerning the
100 year flood and Mr. Groh passed out a revised certified survey
map to the members for their review. The Roard of Appeals has
already approved a variance for setbacks on June 22, 1989. Mrs.
Mr. Lee stated that they did not intend to fill this area. Upon
Rector expressed concern about the filling in of Jewel Creek, and
a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
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P.M.
Chairman Salentine requested a 15 minute break at 8:45
The meeting resumed at 9:OO P.M.
SKETCH FOR 4 LOT DIVISION-JOHN MAHONEY - The recording
secretary read Resolution j1P.C. 120-89, Approval/Disapproval of
Sketch for 4 Lot Division of the John Mahbney Property-in the NE
1/4 of Section 31. Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption. Mr. Schmidt
seconded. There was a lengthy discussion concerning the public
road access off N. Shore Lane, which is a private road. It was
also brought to Mr. Mahoney's attention that Parcel 3 on his
sketch doesn't have access to a public road. Mr. Mahoney stated
that he would consider changing the Parcels to have Lots 1-3
combined Mr. Ray Christenson, President of the N. Shore
been privately owned since the early 1920's, and the residents
Association (a resident in the area) stated that Bosch Drive has
strongly object to a 60' wide roadway for emergency vehicles to
use. Attorney Mike Corkin, a resident in the area stated that he
restrictions in the Waukesha County Courthouse and the road in
is also concerned about the ingress/egress and checked the deed
expressed concerned about the density and said they objected to
question is still owned by the residents. Several neighbors
the use of private roads. Mr. Lloyd Erno's land was mentioned,
Mr. Mahoney is also part owner of the private road. Chairman
as he subdivided years ago in the same area. It was noted that
Salentine suggested that the City Attorney be contacted -- this
also seems to be a civil matter between property owners. Another
neighbor stated that she owns a piece of land on the lake and
across from Bosch Drive. Her concern is with Parcel 2. After
more discussion Mr. Hulbert moved to defer Resolution 120-89 and
Mrs. Rector seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion passed
unanimously.
scheduled.
Resolution t1P.C. 121-89 was withdrawn and will be re-
SECOND GARAGE STRUCTURE-ELDON DORN - The recording
secretary2 - , Approval of second garage structure, S67 W21045 Tans Drive, Eldon Dorn. Mrs. Rector moved
for adoption. Mr. Honl seconded. Mr. Dorn was present and
stated that he would like to keep two horses on the property and
has an excess of three acres (stable). Upon a roll call vote the
motion to adopt passed unanimously.
SKETCH-DONNA WYSOCKI - The recording secretary read
Section 14-Donna Wysocki. Mr. Hulbert moved for adoption. Ald. Resolution t1P.C. 123-89, Approval of Sketch in the NW 1/4 of
Hilt seconded. Mr. Lee stated that there would be access to the
lots through the Hermanson property. Upon a roll call vote the
motion to adopt passed unanimously.
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PRELIMINARY PLAT-WOODSIDE ESTATES - The recording
secretary read Resolution #P.C. 124-89. AoDrOVal of Preliminarv
Plat for-Woodside Estates in the SE 114 ok' Section 17-Todd
Bushberger. Mr. Raimann moved for adoption. Mr. Hulbert
seconded. Mr. Lee mentioned that an easement will be needed for
meet the zoning requirements. Todd Bushberger stated that he
lot 7 to get sewer and water to the dedicated street. The lots
will have deed restrictions for the size of the house. Mr. Lee
stated that if he has to fill in the lots he will have to obtain
a permit. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed
unanimously.
BUILDING, SITE, OPERATION PLAN h SIGNAGE PLAN -TRI-
COUNTY BAPTIST CHURCH - The recording secretary read Resolution
plan. W125 S9791 N. Cape Road-Tri-County Baptist Church. Mrs.
BP.C. 125 - 89 , Approval of building, site, operation and signage
Marshall introduced Mr. Bob Schultz of A.G. Guenther & Sons and
Rector moved for adoption. Mr. Schmidt-secbnded. Pastor Michael
Clayton Jones, who is affiliated with the Tri-County Baptist
Church. They requested that their request be amended to include
the signage. Pastor Marshall stated that they have been working
of one beam encapsulated. There was some discussion concerning
the parking for autos. Mr. Lee stated that the capacity would be
rated by the actual amount of seats in the church. The church
would wait for the plantings and just landscape with gravel to
blend in with the existing areas; they plan to upgrade the
building to match the same color as the existing structure with a
decorative rock face. They requested a time phased plan for
asphalting the parking lot. Mr. Hulbert moved to amend the
resolution to include 1-the signage as submitted and 2-asphalt
the parking lot prior to January 1, 1990. Mr. Schmidt
seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to amend Resolution
125-89 passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote the motion to
adopt the amended resolution passed unanimously.
a. wlth the DNR and the asbestos has been removed with the exception
SKETCH-ACE GLASS - The recording secretary read
Resolution HP.C. 126-89. Aooroval/DisaDDroval Sketch of Land
Division-SE 1/4 of Section'>-Ace Glass' Service. Mr. Schmidt
moved to adopt the Resolution with the word "Approval". Mr.
Hulbert seconded. There was some discussion concerning the
possibility of widening Janesville Road. Commissioner Schmidt
create a larger yard. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt
suggested that the lot be widened on the residential lot to
the resolution with the word "approval" passed unanimously
subject to the zoning officer working with the applicant to
revise the lot questions.
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read Resolution #P.C. 127-89. ADDrOVal of temoorarv sien at S107
TEMPORARY SIGN-RPC Motors - The recording secretary
. W16311 Loomis Road-RPC Motors. Mr. Honl moveh for'adoption. Mr.
Raimann seconded. Mr. Raimann thought six months was too long a
period of time. Mr. Honl moved to amend the resolution to read
vote this amendment passed unanimously. Upon a roll call vote
"Whereas, this request is until September 1, 1989. Upon a voice
the amended resolution passed unanimously.
TRUCK PARKING-RAY NOWAK - The recording secretary read
Resolution #P.C. 128-89, Approval/Disapproval of truck parking in
a residential district at W208 S8121 Hillendale Drive-Ray
Nowak. Mrs. Nowak was present and stated Mr. Nowak is on the
driveway over long periods of time. Mr. Lee stated that this is
road most of the time and the truck will not be parked in the
Yaeger Trucking's permission for trucking. A neighbor expressed
in a residential district. There was some discussion concerning
opposition to the trucking in this residential area. Mrs. Nowak
neighbors, who didn't oppose the parking of the semi-truck. It
stated that she had submitted a petition from several of her
was suggested that Mr. & Mrs. Nowak look at agricultural land for
the parking of their semi-truck. Ald. Hilt stated that the city
is experiencing a problem with semi-trucks parking and feels a
private rental area should be established for these trucks.
Ald. Hilt moved to word the resolution "disapproval". Mrs.
Rector seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion passed
unanimously.
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS:
Chairman Salentine reported on the possibility of having
a horse track in the Emerald Park area. He presented a sketch of
the proposed track. There was a brief discussion.
Mr. Lee reported on the Transportation Plan. The
arterial streets should be improved and identified.
There was some discussion about the Comprehensive
was confidential and she would get them a copy of the Waukesha
Plan. Mr. Lee stated that Sarah Ford told him the Nashotah plan
County Plan.
ADJOURNMENT: There being no further business Mr. Honl made a
motion to adjourn the meeting and Mr. Raimann seconded. The
meeting ended at 11:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Cheryl Schmidt
Recording Secretary
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TEMPORARY SIGN-RPC Motors - The recording secretary
a1 of temporary sign at S107
nths was too long a
Honl moved for adoption. Mr.
resolution to read
1989. Upon a voice
a roll call vote
ing secretary read
of truck parking in
Nowak is on the
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he parked in the stated that this is
scussion concerning
neighbor expressed
1 area. Mrs. Nowak
several of her
the semi-truck. It
gricultural land for
tated that the city
rking and feels a
these trucks.
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS:
Chairman Salentine reported on the x possibility of having
a horse track in the Emerald Park area. He presented a sketch of
the proposed track. There was a brief discussion.
arterial streets should be improved and identified.
Mr. Lee reported on the Transportation Plan. The
Plan. Mr. Lee stated that Sarah Ford told him the Nashotah plan
was confidential and she would get them a copy of the Waukesha
County Plan.
There was some discussion about the Comprehensive
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business Mr. Honl made a motion to adjourn
the meeting and Mr. Raimann seconded. The meeting ended at 11:30
P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
" a Cheryl Schmidt
Recording Secretary
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