PCM198902210 CITY OF MUSKEG0
PLAN COMMISSION
MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON February 21, 1989.
Mayor Wayne Salentine called the meeting to order at 8:Ol P.M.
Rector, Jack Schmidt and Director Gerald Lee.
PRESENT: Chairman Wayne Salentine, Jerald Hulhert, Dottie
ABSENT: Alderman Penovich, Edward Raimann and Darl Honl.
MINUTES Mr. Schmidt moved to approve the Minutes of the
February 7, 1989 meeting. Mr. Hulbert seconded.
OLD BUSINESS:
SKETCH -LEPAK/SCHROEDER Chairman Salentine asked if
this resolution could he held until all interested Darties are
given a chance to attend. The members were in agreement by a
voice vote.
APPROVAL OF SIGN MC KINLEY INDUSTRIES The recording
secretary read Resolution #P.C. 13-89 Approval of 4 x 16 square
S81 W18510 Gemini Drive. Mr. Lee explained that his office has
foot sign for McKinley Industries on the building addressed as
changed their policy to accept signs from tenants hecause if only
two tenants have sign approval and use all the available space,
it is unfair to the other tenants. The problem should he
addressed by the owner of the building to regulate the signs with
office. This change will take effect immediately. Mr. Lindberg
the leases, unless a statememt by the owner is brought into our
of Mc Kinley Industries was present and stated that he is
changing his sign request in the form of another resolution to he
heard before the Plan Commission later. The resolution was
tabled upon a unanimous roll call vote.
Resolution #P.C. 7-89, Disapproval of Sketch for 3.19 acres in
SKETCH - LEPAK/SCHROEDER The recording secretary read
3.40 acres north of this lot was present. He stated that there
the NE 1/4 of Section 11. Mr. Mark Pizur, who ownes a parcel of
was a restriction on the certified survey that Lots 1,2 and 4 not
be subdivided. Parcel 3 was subdivided into 4 or 5 lots and
approved by the city. Mr. Lee responded that there were no deed
restrictions on Parcel 3. Mr. Pizur stated he had a legal document stating this.
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Mr. Lee responded that the document was between the developer and
the buyers and if the lots meet the city's zoning requirements,
they can get Common Council approval. The city is not the
responsible party. Mr. & Mrs. William Martin, property owners to
the south, were also in attendance and stated that they are both
him and he moved out to Muskego for the open spaces of the against the land division, as it looks like a "landing strip" to
area. Another resident, who owns .53 acres expressed his concern
that the area remain as he had bought it, and he was against the
change. The resident north of Parcel 1 was present and stated
that he felt all this subdividing is being done until enough
money is made by some. He would like to see large lots and feels
this would be unfair. Mr. Boh Pipkin, who lives east of the area
on 3.6 acres said that he constructed his house on a large lot
and doesn't want to see any more subdividing. Mr. Hulbert
commented that he had kept an open mind until he could hear the
concerns of the neighbors in the area. He agreed that the width
of the lot is too narrow and deep, hut it would still make a nice
lot. Upon a roll call vote the members approved the resolution
which was for disapproval unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS :
FREESTANDING SIGN FOR MC KINLEY INDUSTRIES The 0 recording secretary read Resolution #P.C. 14-89 Approval of 25
W18510 Gemini Drive. Mr. Schmidt moved for adoption. Mrs. square foot freestanding sign for Mc Kinley Industries, S81
Rector seconded. Mr. Hulbert had a question regarding the
lighting. Mr. Lindberg stated that the sign would be wood
painted neatly and typeset. llpon a roll call vote the motion to
adopt passed unanimously.
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APPROVALfDISAPPROVAL PERMIT FOR SANITARY LANDFILL-WASTE
MANAGEMENT The recording secretary read Resolution 15-89
Approval/Disapproval of a permit for sanitary landfill - Waste
Management. The Chairman stated that there will he a change in the growth pattern once sewer is available. Mr. Rucky Lowe, a
present and stated if he was going to sell his home if
resident of W208 S8151 Hillendale Drive near the landfill, was
transferred, three different appraisers have told him his house
has depreciated 20 to 30% because of what is in the area where he
and can tell us where the landfills will he and we cannot stop
lives. The Chairman responded that the state has a siting law
them. Mr. Lowe commented that a year and a half ago they stopped
drink or not. If the landfill was not in he could use his well
testing his wells and he doesn't know if the water is okay to
without concern. He also stated that city water comes up half-
way to his property and he has to bring it up the rest of the
way. He lives north of the water service area.
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Chairman Salentine responded that after the 21 month extension,
there is a 6 year life for the landfill. Waste Management has
requested expansion of the landfill from the DNR. Mr. George
Meinholz of Waste Management was present and stated that his
engineers are not present at this meeting, but he agrees there is
a water problem. Both Wauer and Waste Management are involved.
He recommended that Mr. Lowe contact the DNR or Waukesha Health
Department for a water check. Mr. Donald Ross, who owns land
near the ].andfill, spoke. He felt this resolution should not he
approved and asked what can be done for him since he is trying to
build a new house by a landfill? Mr. Meinholz responded that he
is aware of his situation. Mr. Ross is within approximately
1200' of the old landfill. Mr. Meinholz stated that he can help
Mr. Ross get his exemption. Mr. Hulbert asked why can't the city
have water run to his lot? Mr. Ross said you would have to cross
Hwy. 24. The Moose Lodge near his land has a similar problem.
The Chairman stated that we have to keep it in the city's right-
of-way. Mr. Schmidt questioned the expansion in view of the fact
that there are water and sewer service problems which would make
needed? Chairman Salentine responded, yes. The hearing held
it much worse. Mr. Lee asked if a hearing for expansion is
earlier was for renewal of a landfill disposal permit only. Mr.
Schmidt asked if we disapprove this renewal, will the project
stop? The response was yes and the DNR would require it be
Mr. Hulbert asked why the amount of time requested for the
properly closed and land brought up to the proper elevations.
extension of the contract was 21 months? The Chairman responded
on a calendar year. We presently have an agreement for free
that that timeframe would bring us to the end of March and get us
dumping, but Waste Management can shut-off the city's free
dumping. Mr. Meinholz further explained that only Waste
was being dumped at the landfill. They only take part of the
Management:, the City of Muskego, a foundry and Waukesha city ash
city's waste now and cannot absorb more or they would have to
close up. He stated that if they had to close, they are required
to notify the interested parties within 90 days that they are
they could come back within one year to tell us how they are
full. Mr. Hulbert asked if the resolution could be amended and
Welfare Committee at one time wanted a shorter life and now feel
doing and if there are any problems. It was mentioned that the
a longer 1.ife for the landfills would be better. Mr. Frank
DeAngelis was present. He stated that approximately three years
ago Mr. Cahill of Waste Management stated in some minutes that in
would look: into checking the water in existing wells. It should
case of any problems in the immediate area, Waste Management
be documented that if it is an elevated well, Waste Management
would provide water. In summary Chairman Salentine stated that
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Meinholz, a representative from Wauer (since the northern part of
the well situation has to he resolved and he suggested that Mr.
the area is his responsihility), Mr. Lowe, Mr. Ross and possibly
the Moose Lodge people meet at City Hall to discuss this
matter. Mr. Lowe and Mr. Ross gave their phone numbers to the
be contacted to set up an appointment for their meeting at City
recording secretary, and stated that the Mayor's secretary could
Hall. Mr. Schmidt felt that it was a good idea for the people
involved to discuss this matter and the resolution should be
deferred until they can get together and we can be advised on the
situation. Mr. Rector also felt we need more input before a
Mr. Schmidt seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to defer
decision can be reached. Mr. Hulhert made a motion to defer and
carried unanimously.
EXTENSION OF SEWER SERVICE AREA The recording
secretary read Resolution #P.C. 16 - 89 . Recommendation to the
Common Cbuncil to extend the sewer seivice~ area to include 318
acres west of Highway 45. Mr. Schmidt moved for adoption. Mr.
Hulbert seconded. Chairman Salentine stated that the city needs
matching funds for this project and that an agreement has been
signed. Fran Flees was present and stated that she is in
opposition to this resolution. Chairman Salentine stated that it
makes good sense to go ahead with this project if we have the
capability. Mrs. Flees wanted to know if the city was paying for
this. The Chairman responded that the cost is a million plus
dollars, plus the cost of the interceptor and we need funding. A
question was raised as to what Franklin's input was. Gerry Lee
responded that he attended a meeting with Franklin and they will
be serviced by Waste Management. Fran Flees asked if the sewer
on Hwy. 36 on Ryan Road across from the Franklin City Hall had
anything to do with this sewer system? The chairman responded,
no. Fran Flees commented that the city must look at the next 20
to 30 years and what impact this will have on schools, roads,
fire and police department services. She felt $15,000 was a
large sum for homeowners to pay for sewers. Fran Flees also
stated that in the past 18 years the lot requirements near her
went from 3 acres to 60' lot minimums for zoning. The Chairman
responded that you havqrto look to the future to develop a tax
will aid us in our decisions. Gerry Lee stated that we must do
base for services and this facilities plan we are waiting for
some planning. We are still amending the 2000 year plan to what
Hulhert asked if the burden can be put on the landfills for the
is happening now. The big issue is the size of the pipe. Mr.
lift station? The Chairman stated that the cost is based on the
useage. Mr. Hulbert stated that he will either abstain his vote
or vote no unless he can be assured the landfills will pay for
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the services. He wanted to know who will pay for the main down
Hwy. OO? The residents serviced by the lift station would divide
present and stated that that the governor has supported landfills
the cost equally for a one time payment. Alderman Dumke was
in this area. Upon a roll call vote the motion passed with one
dissenting vote from Mr. Hulbert.
APPROVAL OF CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP-DOROTHY VESRACH The
recording secretary read Resolution #P.C. I/
certified survey map for land division in the SF, 1/4 of section
-89 Approval of
16, Lots 1,2,3 and 4 - Dorothy Vesbach. Mrs. Rector moved for
background on the sketch. Mr. Stan Potrykus was present and
adoption. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Mr. Lee gave a little
stated that a group is buying the pond. There would be a 66'
access off Woods Road. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt
passed unanimously.
APPROVAL OF CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP - DOROTHY VESBACH The
certified survey map for land division in the SE 1/4 of Section recording secretary read Resolution #P.C. 18-89 Approval of
16, Lots 5,6 and 7 - Dorothy Vesbach. Mr. Schmidt moved for
adoption. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll call vote the
motion to adopt passed unanimously.
At this point the Chairman noted that we needed a motion to put
Resolution BP.C. 15-89 Approval/Disapproval of a permit for
moved for adoption. Mr. Schmidt seconded.
sanitary landfill - Waste Management on the floor. Mr. Hulhert
SIGN APPROVAL/DISAPPROVAL - FLEA 0 RAMA. The recording
secretary read Resolution #P.C. 19 - 89 A pproval/Disapproval of
temporary changeable letter sign at S75'W17301 JanesGille Road -
Flea 0 Rama. Mr. Hulbert moved for disapproval Mrs. Rector
seconded. Mr. Lee stated that the request is for 6 months. Mr.
Hulbert asked why Flea 0 Rama needed another sign? Mr. Lee
business. Their temporary sign was removed. Mr. Hulbert felt
responded that they want it for advertising to promote their
Rector didn't see a need for the sign. Mr. Schmidt agreed with
that the permanent sign on the building was sufficient. MKS.
Mr. Hulbert that the sign on the building is good enough. Upon a
roll call vote the motion to disapprove passed unanimously.
APPROVAL FLAT WALL SIGN-PIGGLY WIGGLY The recording
secretary read Resolution #20-89 Approval of illuminated flat
wall sign of approximately 126 squaie feet at S63 W13700 Janesville Road - Piggly Wiggly. Mr. Hulhert moved for
adoption. Mrs. Rector seconded. Mr. Schmidt questioned whether
this sign was needed so traffic off College could see where the
entrance to the store was. Mrs. Rector asked if the church had
been notified. Mr. Lee responded that this sign is not on the
West side by the church and there is enough screening there.
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A representative from Piggly Wiggly was present. The chairman
mentioned that the Police Department has commented on the need
for better lights for the entrance to the store. It is difficult
Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
to see the entrance off Janesville Road coming from the west.
APPROVAL OF CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP - DIX The recording
secretaryrof certified
survey map fo SW 1/4 of Section 32 - Cynthia Dix. Mrs. Rector
moved for adoption. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Mr. Lee gave some
background on this sketch to divide Lot 8 off Red Oak Court. Mr.
Stan Potrykus was present and stated that the lot size is the
same as on the sketch. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt
passed unanimously.
APPROVAL OF CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP - KOEHN The recording
secretary read Resolution #P.C. 22 - 89 A pproval of certified
moved for adoption. Mr. Schmidt seconded. Mr. Lee stated that survey map for NE 1/4 of Section 8 - Hans C,. Koehn. Mr. Aulhert
the outlot has been tied to the lot to the north on Wentland
Drive, and there is an offer to purchase. Upon a roll call vote
the motion to adopt passed unanimously.
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS:
REPORT ON CITY'S GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT Chairman
Salentine stated that both Dottie Rector and Gerrv Lee had
requested an Annual Building Report for 1988. Mr. Lee presented
a report and briefly touched on statistics from the new
residential building graph, yearly building inspections, yearly
permits issued, code compliance inspections. He also would like
city must catch up and look at the plan and see where changes
to see a Comprehensive Plan since information is lacking and the
should be working with to show the future. MKS. Rector stated
should be. This Comprehensive Plan is a tool that the city
planner, and wanted to know what we are doing? She felt that it
that she has spoken to communities that have a professional
would be wise to have town meetings for guided discussions. The
city has to decide what do we value, whether it he our clean
water or our open spaces. We should get together to listen to
the public's opinions and use this input for our decisions.
People feel more ownership in the community if they can
Chairman Salentine stated that he has been to many Chamher of
participate. We need something to pull our community together.
Commerce meetings where they felt the city was experiencing slow
growth. Mrs. Rector responded that we should get the business
people to be a part of the city's planning. Mr. Schmidt also
growing the slowest and the availability of lots. We do not have
commented on citizens voicing their concerns about the city
to worry about overdevelopment. Mr. Lee responded that if you
read the Milwaukee Business Journal, Muskego has experienced a 9.8% increase, which compares us to Greenfield's tax base.
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There were two Muskego-Norway school board members present and a
comment was made that Norway is growing 5 times as fast as
Muskego. Mr. Hulbert commented that we have to hope that the
public improvements keep up with the developments, and he would
Rector would come hack with a proposal after talking with like to see a map to follow. In summary, it was stated that Mrs.
community groups for their input (Chamber of Commerce, Women's
Club, the business people in the Industrial Park, teachers (need
education referendums), etc.)
UPDATE ON EXTENSION OF MORELAND ROAD There was a hrief
discussion on where the road will meet Janesville Road and the
timetable. A comment was made that it would meet Janesville near
Bank One on the east side and construction would be started in
1994 according to Waukesha County.
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT There was some discussion
regarding businesses possibly moving into the area.
ADJOURNMENT: Mrs. Rector moved to adjourn at 9:30 P.M. Mr.
Schmidt seconded and upon a voice vote the motion carried
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Cheryl Schmidt
Recording Secretary