PCM19880920CITY OF MUSKEG0
PUN COMMISSION
MINUTES OF PLAN COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON September 20, 1988.
Mayor Wayne Salentine called the meeting to order at 7:OO p.m.
PRESENT: Chairman Wayne Salentine, Edward Raimann, Jerald
Jack Schmidt and Zoning Officer Gerald Lee.
Hulbert, Alderman Mitchel Penovich, Darl Honl, Dottie Rector,
MINUTES Mr. Hulbert moved to approve the Minutes of September 6,
carried unanimously.
988. M r. Schmidt seconded. Upon a voice vote the motion
OLD BUSINESS:
ADDITION TO TAVERN ON KELSEY DRIVE-CHRISTENSEN The
recording secretary read Resolution #P.C. 151 - 88 , Approval to
construct 20' x 24' addition to tavern at S102 W19570 Kelsey
Drive. Mr. Hulhert moved for adoption. Mr. Schmidt seconded.
Mrs. Christensen came forward to explain the large drawing posted
as an exhibit. She indicated where the fence line would be. At
this point the Chairman requested that the neighbor in the
audience be given a copy of the resolution so she could read
it. The Chairman asked the recording secretary to read the Board
of Appeals Minutes concerning this addition, even though they had been read at the last Plan Commission meeting. Mrs. Christensen
went on to show on the drawing where the existing parking, garage, horseshoe pits, trees, two wells, holding tank were
located. Mr. Lee was asked if he had computed the parking
spaces. He stated that there were no building floor plans
submitted yet to show what is tavern and what is residential. He
floor area. You would also have to take into consideration the
said that one car space was required for every 100 square foot of
bar stools, tables and booths. Mrs. Christensen stated that
each table in the pool room area. Mr. Lee said that 17 parking
there are 13 stools in the tavern now, 2 tables with 4 chairs at
present to voice her concerns: 1) Why is the parking lot almost
spaces would then be needed. Lois Perelli, a neighbor, was
next to her lot and what about future parking lot plans? 2)
There is a need for some noise barrier in the area behind the
horseshoe courts. Mrs. Rector stated that she was concerned
about the cars parking along the road. As per the diagram, the
cars would be off the street. Mrs. Christensen stated that
month in the summer, there is adequate parking.
unless they have ballgames, which usually occur only four times a
Mr. Hulbert stated that he shares the concern and felt that a
major part of the entrance to the city highway and adjacent to
the structure should be blacktopped and striped or at least seal
coated because the gravel spills out into the street. Mr.
Schmidt felt that even if there was adequate space designated, it
doesn't mean the people would park within the lines. He would
like to see a seal coat with lines applied to the parking lot.
Of some of the noise level, since windows would not be open.
It was stated that the central air conditioning would take care
Mrs. Perelli said that the noise is a problem and Mr. Lee was
this problem. He stated that there is no ordinance for noise,
questioned about whether the City had a noise ordinance governing
but perhaps the police department had one and Chief John Johnson,
who was present for another matter responded that the police
department will start monitoring the noise at 1O:OO p.m. and if
it continues past 11 :00 p.m. see that the noise is stopped if
they receive a complaint. Mr. Honl said that he could see having
a fence to cut down on the visual and noise problem. Mrs.
with her children and a fence would prevent the parents from
Christensen said that the children from the east property play
seeing their children playing together and feel this would be a
punishment. Mrs. Rector said she sees this fence as protection
not punishment. Mrs. Perelli again stated her concern that
people do not stay in the rentals and that the parking lot is 0 almost on the lot line and would be noisy. Mrs. Christensen
responded that she bought the property and knew there was a
business next door. Mrs. Perelli said that she is concerned
about the 15 to 20 drinking people, the traffic and the outside
activity. Mr. Raimann said that he would like to see it
asphalted. Mr. Schmidt thought it should be seal coated. Mrs.
Christensen stated that her contractor's bid to asphalt was
$4,100 with no grading. Mr. Hulbert thought that if you wish to
expand your business, something should be done. At least seal
were for seal coating. Mrs. Christensen said her quote for seal
coat the entrance area. Mr. Lee stated what the requirements
we require asphalt, so let's be consistent. Mr. Ingersol, who coating was $700 with no grading. Chairman Salentine said that
was present on another matter said that as a businessman, he would like to see consistency. Commercial businesses should he
brought up to the standards that the City of Muskego is looking
for. Mr. Lee read the Municipal Code for paving requirements.
Mr. Hulbert asked Mrs. Christensen that if having to asphalt 17
decide not to put on the proposed addition. It was mentioned
to 19 parking spaces and a driveway was too expensive, would they
that bonding is available to fund the project. Mrs. Christensen
have to. The Chairman responded that they are legal non-
said that several area bars do not have asphalt, so why do they
conforming. If you come before the Plan Commission now with an a was abstaining from voting on this matter. Mr. Raimann said that
amended site plan, it can be required. The Chairman said that he
deadline to complete an2 add the stripes to the wording.
since asphalting was re uired, #2 of the ordinance would need a
Mr. Hulbert thought one year. This question went into a
with one year. It was mentioned that a $5,000 bond would be
discussion. Mr. Raimann and Mrs. Rector said they would go along
required and that it is like an insurance policy. #1 on the
resolution was addressed. Mr. Lee asked how technical do we want
to get? Mrs. Rector stated that an exterior upgrading was
necessary. After some discussion it was decided to: Leave fll as
is. Change W2 to read - That the parking lot be asphalted within
one year from the date that the permit is issued. Leave #3 and
#4 as is. Add F5 to read - Bonding for $5,000 be provided. Add 116 to read - Require 6' privacy (not chain link) fence east side
entrance in line with the back of the existing garage to be
side of property only from the front of the neighboring garage
installed by May 15, 1989.
Mrs. Christensen wanted to know how long she would have to raise
the money to asphalt. Upon a roll call vote to amend the
resolution the motion to amend carried with Mr. Schmidt casting a
dissenting vote and Mayor Salentine abstaining. Upon a roll call
vote the motion to adopt carried with Mr. Schmidt casting a
dissenting vote and Mayor Salentine abstaining.
NEW BUSINESS:
CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP-WELTZEIN - The recording secretary
read Resolution #P.C. 166-88--Ao~roval of Certified Survev MaD
Dividing One Lot--28644 North Lake Drive, Section 1, Town'of '
Waterford-Weltzein. Mr. Honl moved for adoption. Mrs. Rector
seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt carried
unanimously.
REZONING PARCEL OF LAND-SHOOTING RANGE The recording
secretary read Resolution f1P.C. 167-88--Recommendation that a
to Rl/OIP for the purpose of installing a shooting range for the parcel of land at W208 S7931 Hillendale Drive be rezoned from R1
City of Muskego Police Department. Chief Johnson of the Muskego
Police Department was present. He stated that the proposed site
is a Waste Management land buffer zone. There will be a 15 foot
berm around three sides of the range. They will move a small equipment shed for employee storage. They have a long term lease -- 20 years already. The OIP zoning means it is a city function
and you can't condition the zoning. There has been a public
hearing on this matter and they have to get a license from the 0 Common Council. After some discussion Alderman Penovich moved
for adoption. Mr. Hulbert seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt carried unanimously.
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CONSTRUCT A 7 1/2 FOOT FENCE-HAASE The recording
secretary read Resolution 1jP.C. 168-88 Approval to Construct a 7
1 /2' Fence at S74 W17365 Richards Lane-Haase. Mr. Lee stated
that this resolution came from a complaint about a fence over 6'
in height which the the owner is using to screen his neighbors
from his lot. The adjoining property owner was present and asked: 1) how wide the alley is 2) As the fence stands now it
and cars have poor visabililty. She would like to see the fence
extends all the way out to Richards Lane and kids riding bikes
moved back 5 feet off Richards Lane. Mr. Lee said that he would
have to look at the fence and measure the alley. This resolution
is only looking at the fence height. After some discussion it was decided to have the owner of the fence move the fence back 5
feet off Richards Lane. Mr. Raimann moved for adoption. Mr.
Honl seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt carried
unanimously.
SKETCH TO DIVIDE 12 ACRES INTO 3 LOTS-CAROL DEBACK The
recording secretary read Resolution #P.C. 169 - 88 A
to Divide 12 Acres into 3 Lots in the SW 1/4 of Section 21-Carol
pprove Sketch
create one lot and Lot 3 a remanent which should have access only
DeBack. Mr. Lee stated that in this sketch it is proposed to
on Parker Drive. Mr. Potrykus was present and said that the
Debacks want to sell the center lot to create 2 other lots as
has a buyer for the one lot if it is approved. After some
outlots. Parcel 1 has had a perk test. Mr. Dehack said that he
discussion Mrs. Rector moved for adoption. Mr. Schm.idt
seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt carried
unanimously.
SECOND GARAGE STRUCTURE-WUCHERER The recording
secretary read Resolution #P.C. 170-88 Recommendation to approve
construction of 2nd garage structure at W126 S6391 Coleridge
Court-Wucherer. Mrs. Wucherer was present and stated she had a petition and a letter from her neighbors approving the requested
size of Structure. She was informed that the petition and letter
would have to go before the Board of Appeals at a public hearing
for a variance since that was their jurisdiction in this
matter. She responded that she did not wish to go before the
Board of Appeals and would go with the 10' x 14' storage
structure size and keep the required offsets. MI-. Honl moved for
motion to adopt carried unanimously.
adoption. Alderman Penovich seconded. Upon a roll call vote the
CONSTRUCT 50' ROUND 6' DEEP POND ON LOT-DURHAM The
recording secretary read Kesolution #P.C. 1 /I 88 A Construct a 50' Round 6' Deep Pond on Lot 19 Ludwigs Subdivision-
Durham. Mrs. Durham was present and stated that it is a vacant
lot and they just want to clean up the area to make it look
better. Mr. Lee was questioned about the swale.
- pproval to
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Engineers. After some discussion Mr. Schmidt moved for
He said the Durhams are waiting for a response from the Corps. of
adoption. Alderman Penovich seconded. Upon a roll call vote the
motion to adopt carried unanimously.
CONSTRUCTION OF CHAIN LINK FENCE-NRW The recording
secretarv read Resolution #P.C. 1/2-88 Auurove Construction of 6'
Chain Link Fence at S8l W18878 Apollo DriGe-NRW. Mr. Raimann
asked if the fence met the requirements in front. Mr. Lee
responded yes, since it is not in front of the building. After
some discussion it was decided to give NRW 60 days to provide the
Upon a roll call vote the motion to adopt carried unanimously. screening. Mr. Honl moved for adoption. Mr. Hulbert seconded.
LAND-INGERSOLL/ don
APPROVAL OF CERTIFIED SURVEY MAP(AMENDED) TO DIVIDE
#P.C. 173-88 Approval of Certified Survey Map to Divide Land in the NE 1/4 of Section 9-Ingersoll-Giefer. Mr. Hulbert made a
motion to amend the resolution to read certified survey map and
not sketch. Alderman Penovich seconded. Upon a roll call vote
the motion to amend carried unanimously. Mr. Ingersoll was
with his project. He would like to get all the rezoning in place
present to give a little background as to what has been going on
There was a comment about the dedication for public street
purposes and how it will affect the bike path. Mr. Lee stated
jurisdiction/authority on that road would receive the dedication.
that by giving it for public street purposes, whoever has
The Developers Agreement will be taken up Wednesday night
(Finance Committee). He is parceling off a large parcel for
condominiums. He must set up a method to govern it and it will
be called Bay Breeze Condominiums, Inc. The balance will be
aren't working on that now. Mr. Hulbert asked if anything has single family houses on the west end versus an office, but they
changed in Parcel 2. Mr. Ingersoll responded that Ruekert and
Mielke are working to define the easements for the water. There
was some discussion concerning the bike path and the need for a
one foot easement from Mr. Ingersoll and that the bike path will
fit between the fire hydrants and the telephone pole. Mr.Schmidt
made a motion to approve the resolution as amended. Mr. Hulbert
unanimously.
seconded. Upon a roll call vote the motion to approve passed
BY-LAW FOR BAY BREEZE-INGERSOLL/GIEFER The recording
secretary read Resolution #P.C. 174-88 Approval of the By-Laws for Bay Breeze-Ingersoll/Giefer. Mr. Lee gave an example of Some
of the laws. You can't chanae your oil in your driveway. You
can't put towels on your porch to dry. The color of the shades
facing the common area must be approved by all 74 different owners. Mr. Hulbert questioned the construction of the decks.
Mr. Ingersoll responded that the porches are considered limited access areas and the rights of the original condo user for his
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privacy. You can't modify the porches but have access to them.
Mrs. Rector questioned what the territory would be for the beach,
would have to be purchased. The association gives all owners
docks, piers, slips. Mr. Ingersoll responded that the slips
1/74 ownership. The beach must be maintained. The storage shed
to be located in Parcel 2 will not be the ownership of the
condominium owners. After some discussion Mr. Raimann moved for
motion to approve passed unanimously.
adoption. Mrs. Rector seconded. Upon a roll call vote the
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS:
Mayor Salentine said that he had ,just come back from
Madison where he met with Governor Thompson and others concerning
the site plan for future landfills within 3 to 5 miles from
Muskego and other areas in Wisconsin. He stated that he would
like some input from the Plan Commission members concerning the
zoning for these sites. He said that Emerald Park was
grandfathered in. It was mentioned that Chicago's garbage is
coming here and we need siting laws. Our hazardous waste goes to
Kentucky. There was discussion about crossing county
boundaries. Mayor Salentine stated that recycling will soon be
statewide mandated which will only cut down the volume by 26%.
Lepak has given his support. Waste Management now gives Muskego
construct the landfills with a clay liner, plastic liner,
free dumping at the Crowbar site. Mayor Salentine said that they
leachate collection system and ground water system. He toured
Emerald Park.
the Omega Hills site and said that type is being proposed for
is Muskego's Plan Commission guide. (old plan dated 1972) It has
to deal with where the next industrial development will take
place. It is poor planning to create industrial development all In one area.
Mr. Lee discussed updating the Comprehensive Plan which
Mr. Raimann commented on the increased construction of
pole type buildings in downtown Muskego. Mr. Lee stated that
many communities have an Architectural Control Board to approve
all buildings.
Industrial Park had dust-proofed their driveway. Mr. Lee said
that he would check to see if it had been done.
Regulations for the Industrial Park she found that Article 2
contained information pertaining to cutting grass.
Alderman Penovich asked Mr. Lee if Dawes - College
Mrs. Rector stated that in reviewing the Rules and
Mr. Lee was asked to report on the Industrial Park
violations. He stated that NRW will be putting up a fence. Borchardt Lumber had received a letter to correct violations.
Kelly Doors was inspected on Tuesday. The City garage would have
to have a site plan approved by the Plan Commission.
ADJOURNMENT:
Mr. Raimann moved to adjourn at 9:50 p.m. Mrs. Rector
seconded and the motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Cheryl Schmidt
Recording Secretary