PCM19721107CITY PLAN COMMISSION
CITY OF MUSKEG0
1 CITY HALL
MINWES OP MEETING HH.Jl NOVEMBER 7, 1972
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I Mayor Gottfried called the meeting to order at 8:20 p. M.
PRESENT: Chairman Jerome Gottfried, Secretary Alvin Basse, Clark
Zoning Officer Gerald Lee, Planning Consultant Joseph Mangiamele,
Barry, Kenneth Czaplewski, Edward Raimann and Ald. Paul Schaumberg.
Donald Yahr arrived at 10:40 P. M.
and Assistant Planning Consultant Dennis Bianchi were also present.
MINUI'ES: The minutes of the previous meeting of October 17, 1972,
were approved as mailed.
PERSONAL APPEARANCES """""
RAY J. WERNSMAN - Mr. Wernsman, W136 S6468 Sherwood Court,
appeared seeking architectural approval of a 60' x 32' second,
Wernsman has agreed to combine two residential lots on Sherwood Court,
garage structure. Zoning Officer Lee advised the Commission that Mr.
that his dwelling with attached garage is located on one of the lots
and the proposed structure will be located on the second lot.
interpretation of Section 4.05 (2) C. 4, it was the Commission's
In answer to a question from Zoning Officer Lee as to the
decision that an attached garage be considered as part of the principal
building in computing floor area for the purpose of second garage
structures.
that the structure will be of fireproof construction, that it will be
In answer to questions from the Commission, Mr. Wernsman advised
heated, that he does not intend to use the structure for refurbishing
exterior construction. He advised that his dwelling has a lannon stone
the antique automobiles, and that he would use concrete block or metal
exterior.
plans for a second garage structure subject to the condition that
more detailed drawings be submitted indicating the proposed exterior
appearance and that the Commission would be most receptive to a lannon
stone exterior. Mr. Yahr seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Mr. Raimann moved that the Commission will be receptive to these
SAM LAWEm - PARKLAND PLAZA - Mr. Lawent, developer, and William
Paschke. architect. ameared seekine amroval of Phase I1 and 111 Dlans
for therColony Viliage'condominiums-in' the Parkland Plaza planned .
development, as well as architectural approval of pumphouse design.
It was noted by the Commission that at their last meeting they had
deferred action to give the developers an opportunity to appear to
discuss the removal of the swimming pool and clubhouse from the planned
development and to give the architects an opportunity to submit a more
attractively designed pumphouse building.
The Commission reviewed four pumphouse designs which had been
prepared by Paschke and Associates. Ald. Schaumberg moved to approve
the design which had been prepared November 6, 1972. Mr. Raimann
seconded the motion and the motion carried.
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Mr. Lawent advised that the swimming pool and clubhouse had
been eliminated from the development when the apartment rental units
had been changed to the condominium plan, that it was the opinion of
the developers that the purchasers of the condominiums would be
potentially elderly persons or young couples who would prefer not to
pay the approximately $35 extra per month for upkeep of a clubhouse and
pool, that the developers have added monetarily to the units in lieu
of the recreational facilities with such items as frost free.refrigerators
and self-cleaning ovens, that the price of the units range from $24,900
to $27,900.
be willing to consider the addition of tennis courts in the development
and Mr. Paschke advised that the tennis courts could possibly be
donated to :he city for park purposes.
located on the south side of Highway 24 near the acreage which will be
Ald. Sahaumberg moved to defer action on Phase I1 and I11 of the
Colony Village condominiums and to request the developers to submit
a proposal for planned year round recreational facilities which would
possibly include tennis courts prior to the Commission's action on
the exclusion of the clubhouse and swimming pool. Mr. Czaplewski
seconded the motion and the motion carried.
In answer to the Commission, Mr. Lawent advised that they would
HAROLD DEBACK - MUS-KEE-GUAC - Mr. DeBack appeared regarding re-
property on McShane Road. It was noted by the Commission that at the
last meeting they had reviewed a revised plan for this proposed develop-
ment which reflected:
100 condominium units around the lake ($31,000 valuation)
161 condominium units south of McShane Road ($26.000 valuation)
0 quest'for approval of the planned development for the Wallner-DeBack
- 64 single family dwellings south of McShane ~Roai ($35,000 valuation)
325 Total Units
It had been the Commission's decision at the last meeting to
make on-site inspections of existing condominium projects to determine
the feasibility of requiring increased valuation per unit in the
Mus-Kee-Guac development and Mr. Raimann reported on same. He advised
$24,900 to $30,999, that in his opinion very little quality was
that several of the members had toured units ranging in price from
into the landscaping rather than the units.
received for $30,999, that a substantial amount of money had been put
Ratio of Bedrooms for Multi-Family Units".
be economically feasible to obtain the quality desired around the lake
with a condominium development.
that dollar value should be based on plans and specifications along
with square footage to determine quality construction rather than on
Planning Consultant Mangiamele submitted and reviewed "A Guide to
After discussion it was the Commission's opinion that it would not
Mr. Donald Polzin, surveyor and engineer, advised the Commission
0 unit price.
It was the Commission's decision to advise the developers that
if a satisfactory design is submitted, that approval will depend on the
they will be receptive to a single family development around the lake
design of the area south of McShane Road with the incorporation of 60
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0 condominium units which will be eliminated from the lake area, that
the value of the condominiums be increased in value to more than $26,000
per unit and that plans and specifications be submitted to the building
inspector, Gerald Lee, for determination of the quality of the con-
struction.
Dr. Mangiamele expressed concern at single family around the
pointing out that there would be more use of the lake if it were
lake questioning how the accesses to the lake would be determined and
developed at the higher density.
KURTZE LANE - Mr. Walter Chmiel, S77 W15483 Woods Road, and Ald.
Ed Duke were present to speak in favor of Kurtze Lane becoming a
public road. It was noted by the Commission that the petition re-
questing this change in status of Kurtze Lane had been referred to
the city attorney and Public Works Committee in addition to the Plan
Commission.
Mangiamele for review and recommendation. Ald. Schaumberg seconded
the motion and the motion carried.
Mr. Barry moved to refer this request to Planning Consultant
to the development of Lakeview Hills subdivision in the W 1/2 of
FRANK NAREK - LAKEVIEW HILLS - Mr. Narlock appeared in regard
Section 8. The Commission had reviewed a communication dated October
26th from City Attorney Buckley regarding the city's approval of Lake-
Plan Commission.
plat which will include a revision in the Ridge Road route and extension
of Hickory Lane with a small cul-de-sac.
@ view Hills plat over the objections of the Waukesha County Park &
Mr. Narlock advised that he will be submitting a revised preliminary
Mayor Gottfried declared recess at 10:25 P. M. and the meeting reconvened
at 11:05 P. M.
OTHER BUSINESS ""-"
of lenots 7 and 8, Block 6, and Lots 1 and 2, Block 5,
Bay Shore Estates. It was noted by the Commission that this is an
RS-2 District requiring 20,000 sq. ft. lots with 110' average width,
sq. ft. with 96' average width. It was also noted that the request
that Lot 7 is 30,161 sq. ft. with 87' average width and Lot 8 is 38,664
for Lots 1 and 2 was in error as those two lots were located in the
Bay Shore Hills Subdivision, rather than Bay Shore Estates.
legal status for Lots 7 and 8, Block 6, Bay Shore Estates. Mr.
Czaplewski seconded the motion and the motion carried.
and 2, Block 5, Bay Shore Hills. Mr. Czaplewski seconded the motion
and the motion carried.
MUTUAL BUILDERS - The Commission reviewed a request for determination
Mr. Raimann moved to recommend to the Common Council approval of
Ald. Schaumberg moved to defer action on the request for Lots 1 and
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MAPLE HILL ESTATES - The Commission reviewed the final plat for
Made Hill Estates in the Town of Vernon which falls within Muskeeo's
Casper September 12, 1972. It was noted by the Commission that the
exira-territorial jurisdiction which had been prepared by Richard"-
preliminary plat for this subdivision was approved by the Commission
June 20th, 1972.
and approval by the engineer, Clark Barry. Mr. Czaplewski seconded
the motion and the motion carried.
Mr. Basse moved to approve this final plat subject to review
DURHAM MEADOWS AND HALE PARK MEADOWS - The Commission reviewed a
design for the pumphouses. one to be located in the Durham Meadows
development and- one in the Hale Park Meadows development. It was
noted by the Commission that the locations for the pumphouses had been
approved in June, 1972, however, the design at that time had been
rejected.
as submitted on the plan dated November 3, 1972. Mr. Basse seconded
the motion and the motion carried.
Ald. Schaumberg moved to approve the design for the pumphouse
SUB-COMMITTEE - In addition to Planning Consultant Mangiamele,
Zoning Officer Lee and Himself, Mayor Gottfried invited all members
to serve on the sub..committee to meet with Mr. Donald Polzin in
regard to the development of the Loomis property south of the city's
industrial park after this regular meeting.
ADJOURNMENT: Mr. Czaplewski moved for adjournment.at 12:17 P. M. hr. Raimann seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara J. Sands
Recording Secretary
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