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CITY PLAN COMMISSION
CITY OF MUSKEG0
MINmES OF MEETING HELD OCTOBER 17, 1972
CITY HALL
Mayor Gottfried called the meeting to order at 8:20 P. M.
PRESENT: Chairman Jerome Gottfried, Secretary Alvin Basse, Clark
Barry, Kenneth Czaplewski, Edward Raimann and Paul Schaumberg.
Zoning Officer Gerald Lee and Planning Consultant Joseph Mangiamele
were also present. Donald Yahr arrived at 10:40 P. M.
MINUTES: The minutes of the previous meeting of October 3, 1972,
were approved as mailed. ""_""_ PERSONAL APPEARANCES
AL EVINRUDE - MUS-KEE-GUAC - Mr. Evinrude, representative of
Paschke & Associates, appeared and submitted a revised plan for the
planned development of the Wallner-DeBack property on McShane Road.
October 17th, 1972, indicated 100 single family condominium units
He advised that this revised plan prepared by Paschke & Associates
around the lake north of McShane Road, 161 single family condominium
units south of McShane Road and 64 single family lots south of McShane
Road, for a total of 325 units. He pointed out that in accordance
with the memo submitted by Planning Consultant Mangiamele at the last
meeting, the expressway corridor and southwest of that corridor would
not be considered part of the development but would be considered in
the rezoning, that the row of lots designated for duplexes had been
eliminated, that the townhouses both north and south of the McShane
Road are clustered around open space in this revised plan rather
than around the parking areas as indicated in the previous plan, that
by the developers, that the west side of the private lake will be
the road to the west of the lake on city property will be constructed
layout. He submitted for the Commission's review a typical townhouse
treated as open space and that garages have been included in the new
for two and three bedroom units, second floor plan indicating two
elevation, townhouse and garage side elevation, the first floor plan
bedrooms and second floor plan indicating three bedrooms. Mr. Paschke
reviewed the following letter of intent dated October 17th, 1972,
directed to the Plan Commission:
"Gentlemen:
Mus-Kee-Guac planned development. The developers are Mrs. Raymond
Harold R. DeBack, W198 S10856 Racine Avenue, Muskego, Wisconsin.
R. Wallner, W184 S9001 Racine Avenue, Muskego, Wisconsin, and Mr.
& Associates, Inc., 4850 W. Fond du Lac Avenue, Milwaukee, Wisconsin,
as project architect and Mr. Claude C. Johnson, Jr., S20 W23156 Ellis
Avenue, Waukesha, Wisconsin, as project engineer and surveyor.
The total project is being submitted with a total of 325 dwelling
units north of McShane Road, there will be a total of 100 condominium
homes. South of McShane Road, there will be 161 condominium homes and
64 single family lots.
This letter of intent is being submitted with reference to the
The developers have acquired the professional services of Paschke
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October 17, 1972
0 The developers intend to form a Home Owner's Association to control
the use of open space easements. The legal structure of the Home
Owner's Association will be similar to that of Parkland Plaza.
All roads shown on the plot plan will be dedicated to the City of
Muskego.
The developers intend to sell individual condominium homes and
single family lots. Control and unity of the development will be accom-
plished by means of a Homes Owner's Association and Architectural Control
Committee.
The City of Muskego taxpayers spend $544.00 per student per year
to operate the school system. We estimate the effective number of
be 357 children. This is based on the following computations:
children placed upon the system as a result of this development will
261 condominium homes x 1.0 children per home 261 children
64 single family homes x 1.5 children per home -
357 children
96 children
($544.00 x 357 children).
The annual cost of educating these children would then be $194,208
It is also estimated that the project would yield $262,155.52
per year in propert taxes based on the estimated value of $9,526,000
taxed at a rate of i 27.52 per $1000 of valuation. In addition to this,
it is also estimated that the total personal income would be $4,763,000
based on the following computations:
100 condominium families at $15,500 / year . $1,550,000.00
161 condominium families at $13,000 / year 2,093,000.00
64 single family units at $17,500 / year 1,120,000.00
$4,763,000.00
Based upon information supplied by the Office of the Physical
Liaison of the City of Milwaukee, the City of Muskego would receive 2/3%
of a tax dollar. Thus, the City of Muskego would receive $31,912.00
per year ($4,763,000 income x .0067).
This brings the total funds from income tax and property tax to
$294,067.52 which offsets the educational costs of $194,208.00 per
year by $99,859.52.
following computations:
100 condominium families at $31,000 - $3,100,000.00
161 condominium families at $26,000 - 4,186,000.00
64 single families at $35,000 - 2,240,000.00
$9,526,000.00
The value of the property was estimated on the basis of the
The condominium homes will have approximately equal numbers of
Water service for the condominium homes will be provided by means
two and three bedroom units.
by means of individual wells.
of a common well. The single family lots will supply their own water
The developers intend to use underground electric and telephone
The two bedroom condominium homes will have an approximate area
of 1,200 square feet plus garage and basement. The three-bedroom
condominium homes will have an approximate area of 1,400 square feet
plus garage and basement. Single family homes will have an approximate
area of 1,400 to 1,600 square feet.
0 service throughout the project.
October 17. 1972
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0 We respectfully request your approval of our statement of intent.
/s/ Raymond R. Wallner. Agent for
Ha>old DeBack and jea, Wallner"
Mr. Evinrude reviewed the phases of development as follows: 100
condominium units around the lake - construction to begin January, 1973;
January, 1974; and 64 single family dwellings south of McShane Road - 161 condominium units south of McShane Road - construction to begin
construction to begin January, 1975. He reviewed the sale prices of
existing condominium units as indicated in the Sunday Milwaukee Journal
pointing out that $19,900 is one of the low values, that the price of
will be average or slightly above average in price. He also pointed out
the proposed condominiums in the Mus-Kee-Guac development of $31,000
that the average size of the single family lots will be 10,800 sq. ft.
and that density is based on 2.85 units per acre.
mately $40,000 for the condominium units surrounding the lake, an
expressed approval of the general layout, increased value to approxi-
architecturally different condominium around the lake as compared to
those south of McShane Road and the feasibility of requiring a
centralized water system for the entire development.
Mr. Evinrude questioned, at the direction of the developers, if
the Commission would be more receptive to just a subdivision layout.
It was the Commission's decision to act only on the layout presented
It was the Commission's decision to make on-site inspections of
There followed considerable discussion during which the Commission
for the planned development.
existing condominium projects in the area to determine the feasibility
of requiring the increased value in these condominium.units.
seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Mr. Yahr moved to defer action for two weeks. Ald. Schaumberg
AL EVINRUDE - PARKLAND PLAZA COLONY VILLAGE - Mr. Evinrude,
representative of Paschke & Associates, Inc., submitted for the
Commission's review Phase I1 and I11 plans for the Colony Village
condominiums in the Parkland Plaza planned development. He also
submitted plans for a pumphouse, two of which will house water
systems for the community wells in the development. Mr. Evinrude
and using the color scheme as used in the construction of the condomin-
advised that the pumphouses will be constructed of the same materials
ium units. The Commission expressed concern at the design of the
pumphouse, in particular the slanted roof, and Ald. Schaumberg moved
to defer action on the pumphouse approval to give Mr. Evinrude an
Czaplewski seconded the motion and the motion carried. opportunity to submit a more attractively designed building. Mr.
Mr. Evinrude explained that when the developers changed the
apartment units to the condominium plan they eliminated the swimming
pool and clubhouse in order to provide more landscaping as well as
carports. Dr. Mangiamele expressed concern that the removal of the
clubhouse and swimming pool had not been approved by the Commission.
Mr. Czaplewski moved to defer action on Phase I1 and I11 of the 0 Colony Village condominiums and to request the developers to appear
at the next Plan Commission meeting to discuss the removal of the
swimming pool and clubhouse from the planned development. Mr. Barry
seconded the motion and.the motion carried.
October 17, 1972
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DOUGLAS RICK - Mr. Rick, W145 S9587 Groveway Lane, appeared
seeking approval of a second garage structure on hi,s property.
Zoning Officer Lee reported the Mr. Rick has an attached garage, that
the proposed garage will be used for storage of lawn equipment, boat,
etc., that the garage will be constructed in a wooded area and will
be screened from Groveway Lane, and that in his opionion it would
not adversely affect the surrounding properties.
Schaumberg seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Mr. Raimann moved to approve this second garage structure. Ald.
Jahnke & J
HEATHER RIDGE ESTATES - Mr. David Heim, representative from
preliminary plat for Heather Ridge Estates, Town of Vernon, which
ahnke Associates, Inc., appeared seeking approval of a
falls within Muskego's extra-territorial jurisdiction. Mr. Heim
advised that the plat has been approved by the Town of Vernon and
the Waukesha County Park and Planning Commission and that all
objecting authorities have indicated "no objections".
development. He suggested that because of the several developments in
the Town of Vernon which have been submitted to the Commission for
approval under the extra territorial zoning jurisdiction, SEWRPC
should be contacted to determine the impact. Zoning Officer Lee
review.
moved to approve the preliminary plat for Heather Ridge Estates. Mr.
Czaplewski seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Mayor Gottfried declared recess at 9:25 P. M. and the meeting reconvened
at 9:45 P. M.
Dr. Mangiamele advised that the layout is good for single family
0 suggested that a copy of the county zoning ordinance be obtained for
After considerable discussion of drainage, roads, etc., Mr. Basse
OTHER BUSINESS """_
DONALD BENTLEY - The Commission reviewed Conditional Use Grant #45
which was granted to Mr. Bentley, S67 W20253 Tans Drive, to permit
the last meeting they had referred this to Zoning Officer Lee for review
the operation of a dog kennel. It was noted by the Commission that at
and report. Zoning Officer Lee reported that Mr. Bentley is not
interested in operating a kennel any longer and suggested that a public
hearing be held to terminate the grant.
motion and the motion carried.
to terminate Conditional Use Grant #45. Ald. Schaumberg seconded the
Mr. Raimann moved to schedule a public hearing for December 1, 1972,
SIGN - PHILLIPS 66 STATION - The Commission reviewed a request
for approval of a non-luminated, 8' high x 16' wide wooden sign to
advertise automotive products other than gasoline to be attached to the
Lee reported that the zoning ordinance does not permit a sign of this
size, that the station is operating under Conditional Use Grant #1 and
that conditions placed on the grant permitted directional signs only.
seconded the motion and the motion carried. Mr. Raimann moved to deny this request for sign. Mr. Yahr
a building, corner of Highway 24 and Lions Park Drive. Zoning Officer
October 17, 1972
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ALUN BUHRANDT - The Commission reviewed a certified survey
map for a 220,000 sq. ft. lot on Henneberry Drive which had been
prepared by Hoffmann, Polzin, Becker & Associates for Mr. Buhrandt,
S93 W20379 Henneberry Drive. It was noted by the Commission that
the sketch had indicated that there would be a 60' road dedication
rather than 66' as shown on the survey map and that those lands
between a previous division and the road dedication area would be-
come a part of the lot which had been created in 1965 and that the
survey did not indicate such.
the-condition that there be a 60' road reservation and that the
balance of land to the west be attached to the previously recorded
division. Mr. Barry seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Mr. Basse moved to approve the certified survey map subject to
map which had been prepared by Inman, Inc., March 30, 1972, for final
Drive and Topaz Drive in Section 4. (Mrs. Josephine Scheerer, Agent)
division of the A. Spirer property bounded by Martin Drive, Jewel Crest
It was noted by the Commission that the three lots created are
adequate in average width but are less than required in area for the
RS-2 District. In accordance with the Plan Commission's recommendation,
the Common Council granted legal status to these lots September 28th.
1972, in Resolution #190-71.
SCHEERER - SPIRER - The Commission reviewed a certified survey
had been the replacing of a culvert which has been completed and
Engineer Barry reported that one of the conditions of the division
recommended approval of the certified survey map.
seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Mr. Barry moved to approve the certified survey map. Mr. Basse
COMMUNICATIONS & MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS
NORMAN THOMAS LANDFILL REQUEST - The Commission reviewed a communi-
cation dated October 6th directed to Mayor Gottfried from Attorney
Michael McMorrow as follows:
"Dear Mayor Gottfried:
of Muskego failed to recommend the granting of a sanitary landfill per-
mit to Mr. & Mrs. Thomas.
However, the Plan Commission, failed to indicate the acceptability
opinion, should be allowed to be deposited in the pit. Some of these
of the Thomas' itemization of non-combustible materials which, in their
materials are as follows: Glass, Tin cans, Metal, Concrete, Masonry,
Stone, Insulation, Roofing, and Lumber.
as to the acceptability of the foregoing as being included in the
It would be appreciated if you would informally advise the writer
definition of "other materials", which might be deposited into the existing
pit. Your cooperation in this respect is appreciated.
As you know, on October 3, 1972, the Plan Commission for the City
Very truly yours,
/s/ Michael E. McMorrow
The Commission reviewed the restoration plan which had been
submitted by the former owner, Dale Dawson, as well as Ordinance #194
regulating landfill disposal sites.
October 17, 1972
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It was the Commission's decision to advise Mr. Thomas that the
Commission will be receptive to a solid landfill on this site subject
to formal application, necessary bond and description of the activity
proposed and that restoration will be completed in two years. It
was also their decision to approve those items indicated in the
communication subject to further clarification of the terms "lumber
and roofing materials".
LAKEVIEW HILLS - It was noted by the Commission that at their
meeting September 19th they had approved the preliminary plat for
the Lakeview Hills Subdivision (Narlock property) even though there
had been objections to the plat from the county. It was the
Commission's decision to request an opinion from City Attorney
Buckley if the city has a right to approve a plat over the objections
of the county.
ADJOURNMENT: Mr. Raimann moved for adjournment at 12:lO A. M. Mr.
Barry seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara J. Sands
Recording Secretary
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