PCM19720919CITY PLAN COMMISSION
0 CITY OF MUSKEGO
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD SEPTEMBER 19, 1972
CITY HALL
Mayor Gottfried called the meeting to order at 8~16 P. M.
PRESENT: Chairman Jerome Gottfried, Secretary Alvin Basse, Clark
Consultant Joseph Mangiamele and Zoning Officer Gerald Lee were also
Barry, william Chase, Edward Raimann and Ald. Paul Schaumberg. Planning
present. Donald Yahr arrived at 10:35 P. M.
MINUTES: The minutes of the previous meeting of September 5th, 1972,
were approved as mailed.
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PERSONAL APPEARANCES
appeared and submitted for the Commission's review a proposed planned
development - MusKeeGuac - for the Wallner-DeBack property on McShane
was noted by the Commission that the Common Council had concurred with
Road, same prepared by Paschke & Associates September 15th, 1972. It
declared their intent to rezone the approximately 145 acres owned by
their recommendation as indicated in Resolution #187-72 in which they
Mrs. Jean Wallner and Harold DeBack from 1-2 to RSA and RS-2 with a
planned development overlay if a plan is submitted acceptable to the
AL EVINRUDE - Mr. Evinrude, representative of Paschke & Associates,
city. Mr. Evinrude reviewed the proposed development for the Commission
advising that the plan indicates 146 single family condominium units
north of McShane Road around the lake and 129 single family condominium
units, 40 duplex units (20 lots) and 71 single family lots south of
McShane Road. He pointed out that there will be considerable expense
($30,000 to $50,000) to construct the holding tanks which will permit
peak hours. Mr. Evinrude advised that they would like the city to
pumping of sewage into the city's sewage treatment plants during off-
28 acre triangle which will be used for freeway construction with a
consider granting this density which includes 76 units based on the
7.5 acre parcel remaining which they would give to the city for park
purposes.
In answer to Mr. Basse, Mayor Gottfried advised that a decision
has not as yet been made by the Sewer Committee or Common Council as
to whether or not the 65% limitation for development would apply in
the case where holding tanks are used.
Mr. Chase moved to refer this proposed planned development for
Mus-Kee-Guac to Planning Consultant Mangiamele for review and recom-
mendation. Mr. Barry seconded the motion and the motion carried.
NORMAN THOMAS - Mr. Thomas and Attorney McMorrow, representative
of Norman Thomas, appeared seeking approval of restoration plan and
extractive permit for the former Gravel, Inc., site at the corner of
Thomas had applied for an extractive permit June 1, 1972, and submitted
Tans and Hillendale Drives. It was noted by the Commission that Mr.
requested by the Commission.
it was their decision to submit additional information which had been
0 a sanitary landfill plan for restoration; that at the last meeting
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Attorney McMorrow cited the three points under discussion -
1. the restoration plan which had previously been submitted by the former
Thomas petition to restore the site through a sanitary landfill. He
owner, 2. the Thomas application for an extractive. permit and 3. the
advised that Mr. Thomas is agreeable to monitoring the wells within
400 to 450' and requested that the Commission permit a landfill at
this time of non-combustible materials, a load of which would replace
each load of gravel being removed.
Plan Commission from Alderman Knudsen was read by the Recording
Secretary:
"Gentlemen:
matter before you with most all of the people in the immediate area of
the proposed landfill site at the corner of Hillendale Drive and Tans
Drive and they have indicated to me that none of them are in favor of
a sanitary landfill site at this location.
solid non-combustible landfill, as defined by the Dept. of Natural
They did advise me, however, that they would be in favor of a
Resources to be concrete, foundry sand, dirt, glass, building rubble,
etc. Neither do they agree that this area should be granted an extrac-
tive permit for further gravel operation.
The following communication dated September 19th, directed to the
Please be advised that as Alderman of Ward V, I have discussed the
This entire matter has been pending for several months now and it 0 is my sincere hope that it can be settled at this evening's meeting by
your denying the site in question permission to use it for sanitary landfill and the denial of an extractive permit for gravel operation. Sincerely yours,
/s/ Richard M. Knudsen"
advised that they have no plans for the ultimate use of the property,
that there is some gravel in the west bank, that it would not be their
intention to enlarge the pit, that they would like a temporary permit
for 60 to 90 days to remove gravel while they are preparing the infor-
mation requested by the Commission.
on the extractive permit until the landfill is settled.
Planning Consultant Mangiamele recommended that action be postponed
indicated fill by dirt or some other material. A question arose regarding
Mayor Gottfried advised that Gravel, Inc's. restoration plan
"other material" and Mayor Gottfried declared recess at 9:30, resuming
at 9:32, after which the following communication dated November 23, 1970,
from the Department of Natural Resources was read by the Mayor:
'?)ear Mayor Gottfried:
in the City of Muskego for disposal purposes, you requested definitions
of "industrial and "demolition" materials. These terms are not
defined in the Solid Waste Disposal Standards, but do fall into the
toxic or hazardous wastes.
process, which usually results in materials such as flyash, spent foundry
sand, shavings, grindings, settled inorganic and/or organic sludges
In answer to questions from the Commission, Attorney McMorrow
Relative to a request by Industrial Waste Corporation to use land
general category of refuse materials and are not intended to include
Industrial wastes are any materials resulting from a manufacturing
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from waste pretreatment devices; and which may or may not be putrescible.
Demolition materials are any of the wastes resulting from construction
or demolition and are typified by broken concrete, masonry, stone, in=
sulation, lumber, roofing, metal and which may or may not be combustible.
disposal, the actual control of the materials which are accepted at any
regulations and a licensing program for the control of solid waste
particular site remains in the hands of the local government. And a
copy of the local permit is required part of a license issued by this
agency.
Please keep in mind, that although the State of Wisconsin has adopted
Sincerely yours,
/s/ Bernard G. Schultz, District Eng."
in the city's Ordinance #194.
would engage would be above grade from the mound of dirt at the west
end. He advised that the grade is intended to be 8' higher than
Racine Avenue. Mayor Gottfried questioned if Mr. Thomas felt he
could dispose of that much.materia1 and still have sufficient material
for covering of solid landfill. Attorney McMorrow advised that only
15% of the bank would be graveled with 85% remaining for cover material.
section of final grade of Tans Drive as well as Racine Avenue. In
answer to Mayor Gottfried, Attorney McMorrow advised that they "could
not permitted.
the large hill under discussion and that it would be hard to conceive
for fill.
that the city would permit any removal of this material as it is slated
until the next meeting to give Mr. Thomas an opportunity to prepare an
updated restoration plan, a commitment to such restoration and evidence
that an adequate bond will be provided.
Mr. Chase reviewed definitions of waste materials as indicated
Attorney McMorrow explained that the only graveling in which they
Planning Consultant Mangiamele suggested that they submit a cross
0 live" with a solid waste landfill in the event the sanitary landfill is
City Engineer Barry estimated that there are 75,000 CU. yds. in
It was the Commission's decision to defer action on this request
RUSSELL BETTS - Mr. Betts, Beta, Inc., appeared in regard to the
which had been referred to Planning Consultant Mangiamele for review revised preliminary plat for Lakeview Hills (Frank Narlock property)
and recommendation. It was noted by the Commission that the preliminary
plat had been revised because of objection from the Waukesha County
Park and Planning Commission concerning the extension of Ridge Road.
county, it was the city's opinion that it could not be approved, however,
that the original plat could have been approved over that objection. He
pointed out that there was considerable concern about adding the "dogleg"
asphalt abutting existing lots in the Hillendale Subdivision, and that
to the Hickory Lane cul de sac, that there would be a large amount of
drainage problems would be created if the subdivision layout were approved
in accordance with the revised plan.
Planning Consultant Mangiamele reported that the revised plat
indicated the extension of Hickory Lane cul de sac on an extremely
undesirable.
steep grade, that additional traffic would be created which would be
Mayor Gottfried advised that when the plat was objected to by the
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for the lots along the extension of Ridge Road in the original Mr. Chase questioned the ejector system which had been indicated
preliminary plat. Mayor Gottfried explained that the sewer extending
into the Frank Narlock subdivision was not deep enough to sewer several
lots because of the steep terrain, therefore the ejector system would
be necessary. City Engineer Barry advised that such systems are not
desirable because there is the possibility of mechanical failure.
Mr. Raimann moved to approve the original preliminary plat sub-
mitted for Lakeview Hills Subdivision August lst, 1972, subject to the
condition that there be an acceptable method of sewering those
lots which could not be reached by the municipal sewers without an
ejector system, Mr. Chase seconded the motion and the motion carried.
County Park and Plan Commission concerning their objections to this
Planning Consultant Mangiamele advised that he will contact the
plat.
LESTER HOLZ - Mr. Holz, S79 W18997 Janesville Road, appeared and
submitted for approval building, site and operational plans for
reconstruction of the Holz Wheel Alignment, S79 W18997 Janesville Road,
which was destroyed by the tornado July 14th, 1972. The Commission
reviewed an artist's sketch of the appearance of the proposed building
which had been prepared by Link,Builders, Inc.
Wheel Alignment building as a basis for set'back figure, would permit
ordinance, using the existing Holz residence and foundation of the Holz
the building to be constructed in the area as the plan indicates. The
Commission concurred with this interpretation.
as submitted. Ald. Schaumberg seconded the motion and the motion
carried.
Zoning Officer Lee advised that his interpretation of the zoning
Mr. Chase moved to approve the building, site and operational plans
Church. W147 S6847 Durham Drive. appeared seeking approval of a 6' x 6'
WARNER HOLMGREN - Mr. Holmgren, representative of Atonement Lutheran
Durham Drive. Mr. Holmgren advised the Commission that the sign will
sign t; advertise the church to-be'iocated on the church property on
be double faced and will be placed perpendicularly to Durham Drive.
Mr. Chase moved to approve the sign as submitted. Mr. Raimann
seconded the motion and the motion carried.
JOHN A. SPITZNER - Mr. Spitzner, W199 S8466 Woods Road, appeared
seeking approval of building, site and operational plans for a florist
W17822 Janesville Road, east of the police station. It was noted by
and gift shop to be located in the former Martin Mayer dwelling, S76
the Commission that this is a permitted use by right in an RS-3 00s
District. The Commission reviewed the plans submitted which included
a proposed sign to advertise the shop.
Ald. Schaumberg moved to approve the building, site and operational
plans as well as the proposed sign as submitted. Mr. Basse seconded the
motion and the motion carried.
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GORDON KATZER - Mr. Katzer, 4765 S. 76th Street, Greenfield,
aDwared seeking architectural amroval to relocate a home from the
City of Greenfield (above address) to Lot 25, Block 17, Fountainwood
Subdivision, W136 S6473 Sherwood Ct. The Commission reviewed the
plans submitted as well as photographs of the existing home.
Schaumberg seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Mr. Chase moved to approve the request as submitted. Ald.
Willard Masterson, DandiLion Park, to request approval of building,
on concrete block construction with walkway from bathhouse. The
site and operational plans for construction of toilet rooms, to be
Commission reviewed the plans submitted.
condition that the building be constructed of decorative block. Mr.
Barry seconded the motion and the motion carried.
BUD IANGGWH - Mr. Langguth appeared as representative for
Mr. Raimann moved to approve this request subject to the
KEN WESTCOTT - Mr. Westcott, S82 W12998 Acker Drive, appeared
and submitted a revised plan for development of the Otto Kurth property
in Section 11, an RSA District. It was-noted by the Commission-that
the plan was prepared by the Westcot Co. September 18th, 1972.
Planning Consultant Mangiamele for review and recommendation and to
It was the Commission's decision to refer this revised plan to
give him an opportunity to contact the State Highway Commission to
determine their plans for Durham Drive when the Beltline Freeway is
constructed.
seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Mayor Gottfried declared recess at 10:14 P. M. and the meeting reconvened
at 10:30 P. M.
Mr. Basse moved to defer action for two weeks. Ald. Schaumberg
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21' high free standing sign to advertise Muskego Beer & Liquor, 575
W17308 Janesville Road.
MUSKEG0 BEER & LIQUOR - The Commission reviewed a request for a
Ald. Schaumberg moved to approve this sign request subject to
the condition that the arrow on the sign be non-flashing and that all
other free standing signs be removed from the property. Mr. Raimann
seconded the motion and the motion carried.
reauest for amroval of a 33'3" high x 25'8" free standing sign
SENTRY FOOD STORE - PARKLAND PLAZA - The Commission reviewed the
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Lee for review of sign treatment approved for the Parkland Plaza total
to-advertise "Sentry Foods"., which-had. been referred to Zoning Officer
development. Zoning Officer Lee advised that signs had been approved
for the Parkland Plaza shopping center however had not been left with
the city, and were not available.
setdnded:the notion and the motion carried.
Ald. Schaumberg moved to approve the sign as submitted. Mr...Basse
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RITE REALTY - The Commission reviewed a request for approval of an
8' x 12, sign with 12" border to advertise the Hale Park Meadow
Subdivision. It was noted by the Commission that a similar sign was
approved at the last meeting for Durham Meadows; however, action was not
taken on the request for the Hale Park Meadows sign as the location plans were not available. The Commission reviewed the plan for location
which indicated that it will be placed at the corner of Tess Corners
Road and Hale Park Drive.
seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Mr. Raimann moved to approve this sign for one year. Mr. Basse
PIONEER CENTRE - At the last meeting plans for entry gate, fencing,
postal delivery, plantings and landscaping, recreation building, pool
and garages to be constructed in the Pioneer Centre planned development
were referred to Planning Consultant Mangiamele for review and recom-
mendation.
In accordance with recommendation ffom Planning Consultant
Mangiamele, Ald. Schaumberg moved to approve those plans submitted
for those items indicated above, however, to reject the plans for the
garages and request that plans be submitted which indicate a Cesign
more architectunally compatible with the balance of the development.
Mr. Yahr seconded the motion and the motion carried.
GERALD LOEBEL - The Commission reviewed a request to amend the
Muskego Zoning Ordinance in Section 8.19 (7) C.b permit indoor storage
ditional use grant in the Agriculture District. It was noted by the
of boats, snowmobiles, recreational house trailers, etc., as a con-
held before the Common Council September 5th.
Commission that the public hearing to consider this change had been
request be approved. Ald. Schaumberg seconded the motion and the
Mr. Chase moved to recommend to the Common Council that this
motion carried.
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meeti-ayor Gottfried presented the following proposed City Plan
Commission Budget for 1972:
BUDGET - The Budget Committee met just prior to this regular
I tem - Zoning Officer
Clerical Salary
$4.100
1972
3;500
Supplies, Expenses 350
Professional Services 20,000
Special Studies
$27.950
$4,100
1973
3,500
350
12.000
5; 000
I $24,950
to the Finance Committee. Mr. Basse seconded the motion and the
motion carried.
Mayor Gottfried advised the Commission that Planning Consultant Mangiamele has ended his association with the firm of Miller, Waltz,
Diedrich & Architects.
Mr. Yahr moved to recommend a budget in the amount of $24,950
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COMMUNICATIONS & MIScELmNEOUS BUSINESS """"""""""
Open Space District to be added to the Muskego Zoning Ordinance.
Dr. Mangiamele submitted for the Commission's review a proposed
being transferred to Detroit, Michigan, as a Plan Commission member.
Mayor Gottfried expressed regret at losing Mr. Chase, who is
Extension Programs advising of a Land Resources Conference to be held
on Monday, September 25th. He urged the members to attend.
ADJOURNMENT: Mr. Basse moved for adjournment at 11:20 P. M. Mr.
Barry seconded the motion and the motion carried.
The Recording Secretary read a communication from the Cooperative
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara J. Sands
Recording Secretary
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