PCM197203210 CITY OP MUSKEGO
CITY PIAN COMMISSION
MINmES OF MEETING HELD MARCH 21, 1972
CITY HALL
Mayor Gottfried called the meeting to order at 8:05 p. M.
PPJSEK~: Chairman Jerome Gottfried, Willard Bertram, Ald. Robert
Planning Consultant Joseph Mangiamele and Zoning Officer Gerald Lee
Burgermeister, William Chase, Ald. Harold DeBack and Edward Raimann.
were also present. Clark Barry arrived at 8:15 p. M.
ABSEm: Secretary Alvin Basse
""""" PERSONAL APPEARANCES
JAMES HELING - PIONEER CEmRE - Mr. Heling appeared representing
Donald KilDs in regard to Detition to rezone amroximatelv 9.25 acres
in Section'16 from-RS-2 to'RSM with an OPD ovei-iay to perkt construc-
tion of a condominium development. It was noted by the Commission
that at the last meeting they had deferred action on recommendation
ratio of one, two and three bedroom units with total number of units
to the Common Council to give Mr. Kilps an opportunity to revise the
not to exceed 82.
a revised plan indicating two phases of development, the first phase
to include 65% of the total development, this in accordance with
Resolution #220-71 adopted by the Common Council November 23, 1971.
Mr. Kurtz reviewed the first phase which would include a total of
54 units consisting of four one bedroom, 20 two bedroom and 30 three
which would occur when adequate sewerage facilities would be available
bedroom units to be constructed surrounding a court. The second phase
would consist of 24 two bedroom units and 4 one bedroom units.
In answer to questions from the Commission, Mr. Heling and Mr.
Kurtz advised that the roads in the development will not be dedicated
to the city but will be maintained by the condominium owners association,
that in this revised plan the garages will have gabled roofs rather
have raised their families, however, still prefer three bedroom units
than flat roofs, that it has been found that purchasers of condominiums
for various reasons, that it would be possible to control the maximum
and minimum ages and number of children permitted in the development,
that total valuation of the project will be approximately $2,000,000
with distribution as follows - one bedroom, $18,400 - two bedroom,
$21,900 - three bedroom, $25,900 to $26,400.
their opinion that if the number of school age children could be
controlled through a developer's agreement, they would not be as
Mr. Heling and Mr. Ken Kurtz of Kurtz Architects, Inc., submitted
The Commission discussed the ratio of bedroom units and it was
concerned about the number of three bedroom units proposed.
Mr. Chase moved to recommend to the Common Council to approve
Pioneer Centre as submitted. Ald. DeBack seconded the motion. Dr.
Mangiamele expressed concern at the layout pointing out the lack of
road connection between the two phases, as well as the *cement of the condominium units and garages along Racine Avenue. Mr. Chase withdrew
his motion with the consent of his second, Ald. DeBack.
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to defer action on recommendation to the
Planning Consultant Mangiamele an opportunity
the plan. Mr. Bertram seconded the motion and
Ald. DeBack moved
Common Council to give
to review and evaluate
the motion carried.
RAY GRAY - DU" MEADWS - Mr. Gr.ay of Rite Realty Corporation
appeared requesting approval of the preliminary plat for development
of the Walter Wollman property in Section 2, subdivision to be known
been submitted to rezone the property from RSA to RSA with a plamned
as Durham Meadows. It was noted by the Commission that petition has
development overlay, that Plan Commission action had been to
The Commission reviewed the preliminary plat which had been prepared
recommend approval and that a public hearing was held January 25th.
by Stanley Potrykus of Metropolitan Survey Service February 24, 1972,
which indicated 27 single family lots, 34 two family lots and 96
multi-family units on the 43 acres with approximately 15 acres
remaining in open area. The Commission discussed drainage problems
in the area. Dr. Mangiamele recommended revision of Lots 5, 6 & 7,
Block 3, to create more suitable building sites.
data by the city's technical staff. Mr. Raimann seconded the motion
of Durham Meadows subject to review and approval of the engineering
and the motion carried.
Ald. DeBack moved to approve the preliminary plat for development
approval of the preliminary plat for development of the William
RAY GRAY - HALE PARK MEADOWS - Mr. Gray then appeared requesting
Schmidt property in Section 1. subdivision to be known as Hale Park
Meadows.. It was noted by the-Commission that petition has been
submitted to rezone the property from RS-2 to RS-2 with a planned
development overlay, that Plan Commission action had been to recommend
approval and that a public hearing was held January 25th. The
Commission reviewed the preliminary plat which had been prepared by
which indicates 164 single family lots, 12 two family lots, a 6 acre
Stanley Potrykus of Metropolitan Survey Service February 24, 1972,
public park and 18 acres for open area.
Mr. Gray advised that originally they had proposed to develop
He also advised that they are studying the possibility of having a
182 lots, however, that they have revised this to 180 total lots.
development. He indicated the area which would be developed in the
community well for this development as well as the Durham Meadows
first phase.
development of Hale Park Meadows subject to review and approval of the
Ald. Burgermeister moved to approve the preliminary plat for
engineering data by the city's technical staff. Ald. DeBack seconded
the motion and the motion carried.
HERBERT PUETZER - Mr. Puetzer, 8262 W. Greenfield Ave., appeared
regarding development of the Lazynski-Beck property in the SE 1/4 of
Section 9 which lies within an RS-3 District. It was noted by the
Commission that at their last meeting action had been deferred to
on the property as well as the limited capacity of the sewerage
treatment facilities. After considerable discussion of pending
development such as those lands which have been assessed for sewers
as well as the industrial park, Ald. DeBack moved to defer action until
capacity in the existing treatment plant. Mr. Ramann seconded the the consulting engineers prepare a report estimating the remaining
motion and the motion. ca.**;Pd
give them an opportunity to consider the deferred sewer assessment '
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CLARENCE PATTON - Mr. Patton, Eagle, appeared and submitted a
preliminary study for the division of approximately 4.25 acres of his
property on Longfellow Lane and Tennyson Lane adjacent to the
Fountainwood Subdivision in Section 1. The sketch, which had been
prepared by Hoffmann, Polzin, Becket & Associates, proposed four
parcels, one of which includes a pond. It was noted by the Commission
than meet the requirements of 20,000 sq. ft. and 110' average width.
that this is an RS-2 District and that the lots as proposed will more
After discussion, Ald. Burgermeister moved to defer action on
opportunity to review and evaluate the division as it relates to the
this proposal to give the planning consultant and city engineer an
adjacent Wendt property and the surrounding area. Ald. DeBack
seconded the motion and the motion carried.
the -Sunrise Terrace South. a subdivision in the Town
GEORGE OLEINIK - Mr. Oleinik, New Berlin, appeared in regard to
of Vernon which falls within the extra-territorial jurisdiction Of the
City of Muskego, and submitted a communication dated March 7th, 1972,
directed to Mr. Claude Johnson, Jr., from A1 J. Karetski, State of
Wisconsin, Department of Local Affairs 8z Development, advising that
that department does not object to the plat, Same read by Recording
Secretary.
Common Council approval of Sunrise Terrace South subject to the con-
After discussion, Ald. Burgermeister moved to recommend to the
City of Muskego for road purposes. Mr. Raimann seconded the motion
dition that the 25' dedication along Crowbar Road be dedicated to the
and the motion carried.
Mayor Gottfried declared recess at 10:20 P. M. and the meeting
resumed at 10:32 P. M.
OTHER BUSINESS ""-"
ROBERT HOAG - The Commission reviewed a sketch for a 43 lot
subdivision proposed for development on the James Parks property in
their last meeting they had referred the proposal to Engineer Barry,
the SE 1/4 of Section 4. It was noted by the Commission that at
Zoning Officer Lee and Dr. Mangiamele for review and report.
Mr. Barry advised that engineering data had not been submitted,
Mr. Lee advised that the lots were of adequate size for the RS-2
The Commission again took into consideration that this property is
District and Dr. Mangiamele reported that the road layout is good.
Mr. Chase moved to reject the proposal because of the city's limited
in the sewer district but not in the sewer assessment district and
sewerage facilities. Ald. Burgermeister seconded the motion and the
motion carried.
LESTER CHAPIN - At the last meeting, Mr. Chapin's request for
attorney for determination of procedure to grant such status because
legal status for a lot on Schubring Drive was referred to the city
the lot does not abut a public road and is less than two acres in
size. Zoning Officer Lee reported that City Attorney Buckley has
indicated that the Board of Appeals must grant such variance, Mr.
Chapin to be so advised.
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to divide Mr. Wichman's property - Lots 9. 10 & 11. Block 1. Hillview
VERN STOEHR - GERAID WICHMAN - The Commission reviewed a request
Farm Plat - into two parcels. It was noted by the.Commission that
RS-3 District, however, that the request had been referred to City
the lots as proposed will more than meet the requirements for this
Attorney Buckley for determination of proper procedure to release
a land covenant. It was noted by the Commission that Attorney Buckley
had prepared a quit claim deed for this purpose.
approval of the division of these lots as proposed, subject to the
Ald. Burgermeister moved to recommend to the Common Council
execution of the quit claim deed. Mr. Bertram seconded the motion
and the motion carried.
VACATION OF 124th STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY - At the last meeting, the Plan Commission had recommended that the vacation of 124th street
be tabled, however, Ald. Burgermeister advised that the Common Council
had not concurred with this recommendation. Ald. Foldy appeared to
speak in favor of the vacation.
permanent easemenis be retained for sufficient turn around area for
public works vehicles and snow storage on dead end streets as well as
necessary right of way for drainage along the entire length of the
proposed street.
Engineer Barry recommended that if the right of way is vacated,
continuance of the vacation of the 124th Street right-of-way to Woods
Ald. Burgermeister moved to recommend to the Common Council
Road subject to the condition that a full easement be retained to
permit sufficient turn around area for public works vehicles and for
drainage along the entire length of the line. Ald. DeBack seconded
the motion and the motion carried.
ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMEME - The Commission reviewed proposed
amendments to Section 6.01 (4) Preservation of ToDograDhv and to
Section 6.06 (7) D. & E. Permanent Pools of the &siegb Zoning Ordinance.
for April 11th to consider these amendments.
It was noted by the Commission that a public hearing has been scheduled
Ald. DeBack moved to recommend to the Common Council that these
amendments be adopted. Mr. Barry seconded the motion and the motion
carried.
REVISED MEETING DATE - Because of the election which falls on
the Plan Cmmmission's regularly scheduled meeting date, it was the
Commission's decision to reschedule the meeting for April 12th,
8:OO P. M.
ADJOURNMENT: Ald. DeBack moved for adjournment at 11:45 P. M. Mr.
Barry seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara J. Sands
Recording Secretary
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