PCM19720215CITY OF MUSKEG0
CITY PLAN COMMISSION
MINUTES OF h1EETING HELD FEBRUARY 15, 1972
CITY HALL
Mayor Gottfried called the meeting to order at 8:02 P. M.
PRESEW: Chairman Jerome Gottfried, Secretary Alvin Basse, Clark
Barry, Willard Bertram, William Chase, Ald. Robert Burgermeister, Ald.
Harold DeBack and Edward Raimann. Planning Consultant Joseph Mangiamele
was also present.
MINUTES: The minutes of the previous meeting of February 1, 1972, were
approved as mailed.
PERSONAL APPEARANCES """""
DONALD KILPS & JAMES HELING - Mr. Kilps and Mr. Heling, representa-
tives of 1Villiam Kilps Sons Builders. appeared in regard to their
petition for rezoning approximately t, 112 acres of p;operty recently
across from the new city hall site. It was noted by the Commission
purchased from the city, this property located east of Pioneer Drive
RSM with an OPD overlay to permit construction of a multi-family
that the property is zoned RS-2 and the petition requests rezoning to
condominium complex. The Commission also reviewed Resolution #233 in
which the city accepted the Kilps' offer to purchase subject to several
conditions, two of which are that a development plan for the area
acceptable to the Plan Commission and the Common Council be finalized by
May 1st. 1972, and that the development of the area begins prior to
June lst, 1972.
and reviewed artist's sketches of the entrance to the proposed develop-
ment to be called Pioneer Centre, sketch of the elevations and floor
plans for the one-bedroom garden apartments, three-bedroom townhouses,
three-bedroom bi-level units and two-bedroom townhouses, as well as a
advised that there will be 48 two-bedroom townhouses, 8 one-bedroom layout for the total development including recreation areas. Mr. Kilps
apartments, 20 three-bedroom bi-levels and 12 three-bedroom two story
houses, a total of 88 units or a density of approximately 9. families
per acre. He also advised that each unit will have a fireplace - some
woodburning, others gas log.
Mr. Heling submitted and reviewed the following information:
"This proposal describes the use and operation of the planned
Mr. Kilps and Mr. Ken Kurtz of Kurtz Architects, Inc., presented
development of a multi-family condominium complex on 9.5 acres on
Pioneer Drive, north of CTH "Y" , City of Muskego.
bedroom units, 48 two-bedroom units, and 32 three-bedroom units to be
intricately disbursed and arranged on the site to provide adequatp
open space between buildings for privacy and individual recreational
activities, and at the same time, preserving open areas for a park-like
arrangement of buildings in court-type arrangements to reduce the amount the private use of the condominium unit owners, and creating the
of vehicular traffic and providing more privacy for the unit owners.
The proposed development will contain 88 units consisting of 8 one-
community atmosphere as well as space for recreational facilities for
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February 15, 1972
We feel the proposal for condominium development is the most
economic approach for the community, as condominium operation does not
require on site services of the municipality such as trash collection,
snow plowing, road maintenance, etc., and because of the arrangement
of the buildings under OPD zoning will provide better security not only
in lay-out of the buildings but also in better coverage of lighting on
the premises for security, thus reducing the amount of police protection.
ment would be operated and maintained by the condominium unit owners,
who are governed by a declaration of condominium and condominium by-laws.
The maintenance of the buildings, grounds, recreational facilities,
pedestrian ways, drives and parking areas would be controlled by the
condominium unit owners association at the association's expense
through a monthly fee and not by municipal services.
empty-nesters, people who have raised their families and whose families
have left home on their own and are already to relax without having the
burdens of building and yard maintenance and are ready to do some tra-
veling, and do not have to worry about the maintenance and security of
the building or grounds while they are gone. Condominium buyers are
'i also young executives who are just starting their families, and because
of their ambitions, do not have the time to maintain their own property,
but feel that apartment living is inadequate for them, and are interested
in getting a foothold on their own investment in order to start building
equity. Because of these typical-types of condominium unit buyers a
condominium complex gives a Community a more stable tax base, not only
from the property itself, but also from a more stable individual than
the community would have with an apartment complex on strictly a rental
basis. Also, these types of owners do not cause an increased burden on
without added expense.
educational facilities, thus giving the municipality added revenue
I Under the development of a condominium plan, the complete develop-
Statistics prove that most buyers of condominium units are either
The buildings will be of mostly frame construction, with the use
V of textured materials on the outside of building to create the warmth
and natural beauty created by the site and the adjacent developments,
thus retaining and improving the esthetic and economic value of the
area. Parking has been arranged in court-type areas off the main drive
and providing for covered parking for one car and open off-street
parking for a second car as well as planned guest parking. The buildings
and site are designed and construction of same will be supervised by
licensed architects and the site development and utility installation
will be prepared and supervised by qualified licensed engineers. The
single and multiple unit condominiums will be built according to the
requirements of local and state building codes and in the case of the
with the Industrial Commission regulations. The site lay-out and building
multiple unit buildings, the construction requirements will comply
design have included the recommendations of the fire department for
adequate fire protection. (Mr. Heling referred to a communication
Chief Richard Martin listing fire protection recommendations.)
directed to the Plan Commission dated February 10, 1972, from Fire
the on-site sewer, which would be installed at the developer's expense
and an easement for the maintenance of same, to be given to the city.
The proposed water system for the development would be private community
wells, each well serving a maximum number of units as required by
state and local codes.
We are prepared to start construction for the development of
these lands immediately upon approval of re-zoning and final approval
The proposed development would be served by municipal sewer and
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of the enaineeriw plans for a sewer. water. roads. and site grading.
It is our-intent,-upon these approvais, to ;tart construction-of the
under-ground services immediately, along with the planned adult and
family recreational facilities, and at the same time, the construction
of the first typical units to be used for model purposes and for the
sale of additional units from the model. The development of the site
would be organized in such a manner as to systematically start and com-
plete the construction of the units around each court, rather than on
a scattered site basis.
$18,400 per unit, the two-bedroom units approximately $21,900 per unit,
The estimated value of the one-bedroom units is approximately
and the three-bedroom units between $25,900 and $26,000 per unit, for
a total value of over $2,000,000 plus the value of on-site recreational
facilities.
within two years of the date of commencement, and as market conditions
permit to be able to increase the value of these units with materials
and design, but keeping the design commensurate with the concept of
the development ."
We propose to complete construction and development of the site
In answer to questions from the Commission, Mr. Kilps advised that it will-be economically unfeasible to install a community well,
that there will be a single well to serve approximately 8 units,
that final drainage plans have not as yet been prepared, however,
they are not at present planning to install curbs and gutters.
Mr. Raimann and Ald. DeBack expressed concern at the high
density proposed in this rezoning request. The Commission'discussed
the Dams property which lies between this proposed development and the
RSM District to the south (David Beierle's apartments), as well as
what the Council's decision would be in regard to permitting more than
65% of this development to be constructed.
refer same to Planning Cmsultant Mangiamele for evaluation of the
Mr. Raimann moved to defer action on this rezoning request and
density in this proposal ana impact on the surrounding area. Mr. Basse
seconded the motion and the motion carried.
PARKUND PIAZA - Mr. Sam Lawent, attorney, appeared requesting building, site and operational plan approval for the shopping center
portion of the Parkland Plaza planned development. He submitted and
reviewed artist's sketches (prepared by Paschke & Associates) of the
proposed mini-mall pointing out that existing Jerome's Drug Store
will be included in the enclosure, that they plan to begin construction
between June 15th and July 30th, 1972, that First Wisconsin National
Bank will submit the financial guarantee, that there will be 120,000
sq. ft. of leasable area, that the Sentry Food Store is being constructed
separate and apart from the shopping center mall, that the parking
He also submitted artist's sketches of the interior of the mall which
will have 25' corridors.
' ratio will be 3.004 spaces to every 100 sq. ft. of prime floor area.
Dr. Mangiamele recommended approval.
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Ald. Burgermeister moved to approve the building, site and opera-
tional plans subject to final architectural and drainage plan approval
DeBack seconded the motion. Ald. DeBack questioned if a problem could
by the building inspector, engineer and planning consultant. Ald.
arise from the shopping center having more than one ownership in the
Gottfried advised that there is a permanent easement for the drugstore
mall referring to the separate ownership of Jerome's Drugs. Mayor
across the parking area for egress and ingress which is a recorded
document. The motion carried.
been submitted, that these plans are necessary for the evaluation of
Mr. Barry expressed concern that drainage plans have not as yet
the overall development.
Mayor Gottfried declared recess at 9:57 P. M. and the meeting reconvened
at 10:09 P. M.
OTHER BUS I NESS ""-"
Vernon Highlands, a subdivision in the Town of Vernon, which falls
VERNON HIGHLANDS - The Commission reviewed the final plat for
within Muskego's extra-territorial jurisdiction, same prepared by
Surveyor Ronald Zimmerman January 14, 1972.
subdivisions under the extra-territorial jurisdiction such as if our
of the city's control as to the kind of development which occurs in
Subdivision Control Ordinance requirements would apply to this
development, if the roads would have to be constructed to the City of
Muskego's specifications, if the city could require a financial bond
to guarantee such road construction, etc.
opinion from the city attorney to clarify the extra-territorial
Ald. Burgermeister moved to defer action and to request a legal
zoning powers indicated in the state statutes. Mr. Raimann seconded
the motion and the motion carried.
Engineer Barry reported that there is a question as to the extent
replatting Lots 2, 3, 4 and 1/2 of Lot 5 in Block 5, Oak Ridge Unre-
corded Subdivision, same prepared by Hoffmann, Polzin, Becker and
Associates. Engineer Barry reported that there were some engineering
technicalities which required correction, however, recommended
approval.
replatting Lots 2, 3, 4 and 4/2 of Lot 5, Block 5, Oak Ridge
Ald. Burgermeister moved to approve the preliminary plat for
Unrecorded Subdivision and that the Commission will be receptive to a
certified survey map. Mr. Raimann seconded the motion and the motion
carried.
VERNON STOEHR - The Commission reviewed a preliminary plat for
EDWARD KURTH - The Commission reviewed the sketch for the division
of the Edward Kurth property which had been referred to the city
and curve of Durham Drive in the area of the 76 acre Kurth farm.
engineer and highway superintendent for review and report on the width
be re-routed and recommended that the Commission request a full 50'
dedication from the center of the road.
Commission will be receptive to a preliminary plat indicating a 50'
road dedication. Mr. Barry seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Engineer Barry presented a study indicating how the curve could
Ald. Burgermeister moved to approve the sketch and that the
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February 15, 1972 0 PUNNING CONSULTANT'S REPORTS """""""-
FRED FARNSWORTH PROPERTY - At the last meeting the Plan
Commission had referred the Fred Farnsworth property on College Ave.
in Section 4 to Planning Consultant Mangiamele for evaluation of the
existing RS-2 and B-1 zoning. It was noted by the Commission that
Mr. Jerry Roblee had appeared at the Plan Commission Sub-committee
to propose construction of four 16 family apartments.
Dr. Mangiamele recommended that the area would&velop best in
a higher density district, that it would be unlikely that the area
would develop as business, that he would recommend a density of 5 to
6 dwelling units per acre under a planned development - such development
would be opposed to a density as high as that permitted in the RSM to be townhouses rather than apartments. Ald. DeBack advised that he
District.
Mayor Gottfried advised that he would convey the Commission's
opinions to the developer.
""""- ENGINEER'S REPORTS
been discussing the 124th Street Right-ofgWay with the City of Franklin
124TH STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY - Engineer Barry reported that he has
engineer as concerns the drainage of the area.
PARKLAND PLAZA - Engineer Barry submitted and reviewed an
entrance proposal for Parkland Plaza which has tentatively been approved
by the Public Works Committee and Wisconsin Highway Commission.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORTS """"_
TESS CORNERS FIRE DEFT. SUB-STATION - Mayor Gottfried reported
proposed fire dept. sub-station in the Durham Hill area.
that the Safety Committee is reviewing possible sites for the
ADJOURNMENT: Ald. Burgermeister moved for adjournment at 11:OO P. M.
Mr. Basse seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara J. Sands
Recording Secretary
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