PCM19710921CITY PLAN COMMISSION
CITY OP MUSKEGO
MINVTES OF MEETING HELD SEPTEMBER 21, 1971
CITY HALL
Mayor Gottfried called the meeting to order at 8:lO P. M.
PRESENT: Chairman Jerome Gottfried, Secretary Alvin Basse, Clark
Ald. Harold DeBack and Edward Raimann. Planning Consultant Joseph
Barry, Willard Bertram, Ald. Robert Burgermeister, William Chase,
Mangiamele and Zoning Officer Gerald Lee were also present.
MIMES: The minutes of the previous meeting of September 7, 1971,
were approved as mailed.
PERSONAL APPEmANCES -""""-
DON POLZIN - Mr. Polzin, representing Schober & Radtke,
appeared to present preliminary plans for the development of
approximately 84 acres of the former Hales Corners Sand & Gravel
Co. property on McShane Drive in Section 12. He presented an
development surrounding the lake. He advised that the owners
aerial map of the area in question, topography and a proposed
intend to petition for a rezoning and planned development, that
the development will be under one ownership. Mr. Polzin reviewed
planned development projects in which they are involved in other
communities -'Meadows" in Waukesha, "Lake Park" in Germantown,
"Coachlight Village" in New Berlin, and a 1000 unit dQvelopment
in Menomonee Palls. He reviewed for each of these developments
the total annual income to the city, the cost of the development
presented the following "Profile of Coachlight Village" for the
to the city annually and the annual profit to the city. He
Commission's review:
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Profile of Coachlight Village
Location - 15900 GreenfTeld Avenue. New Berlin
Age of Project - Five Years
Density - 15 units per acre
Components - 224 one and two bedroom garden apartments
Ownership - Total ownership: Landmark, Inc.
56 three bedroom townhouses
Amenities - Two outdoor pools
Rental Range - One bedroom - $160 mo.
Large landscaped open areas
Two bedroom - $185 to $200 mo.
Three bedroom - $210 to $240 mo.
Median Annual Pamily Income - Apartments - $10,400
No. of School Children - Apartments - 0
Townhouses - $12,600
Townhouses - 34 or 0.6l/unit
Income to Cit
kea1 Estate TZx $107,000 School $30,600
Sewer & Water Charges 25,000 Police & Fire 6,000
State Shared Income Tax 32,000 Sewer & Water
State School Subsidy (Est) 12,000 Street Maint.
14,000
500
Expenses to City
$176,W $51,100
Annual profit to city - $124,900 or $445 per unit.
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Mr. Polzin explained the concept proposed for the McShane Drive
property advising that there will be one and two bedroom units
overlooking the lake, a recreation building and town houses in
the development. He pointed out that the 832 proposed units would
be phased over a seven year period as follows:
1972 - 82 units
1973 - 120 units
1974 - 106 units
1975 - 126 units
1976 - 126 units
1978 - 128 units
1977 - 144 units
Mr. Polzin advised that the project could be halted at any
time pending hook up to the metropolitan sewerage system, however
this would have to be after at least 300 units had been constructed
for economic reasons.
Mr. Chase questioned the use of package plankin the event
the sewer capacity would be reached and Mr. Polzin advised that
the state frowns on individual plants. He further advised that
they have discussed the sewer hook up with Ruekert & Mielke and
have two plans to suggest.
Mayor Gottfried advised Mr. Polzin that the city has not as
yet determined the rate of development which can be permitted in
the city. There was discussion that because of the limitations
of the treatment plant the project might have to be delayed for
up to five years. Zoning Officer Lee pointed out that the 832
units proposed would be too high density for the number of acres
in this project.
Mr. Polzin requested that the Commission give an indication
if the city would view this program with favor or if they should
deferred on this request (see motion under Growth Impact Study).
consider other methods of development, however, action was
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WARREN B. O'CONNER - Mr. O'Conner appeared and submitted a
Dreliminarv Dlat for the develoDment of aoDroximatelv 76 acres of
ihe Edward'Kbrth property in Section 11 sobth of McShane Drive
and east and west of Durham Drive, same prepared by Jahnke & Jahnke
Associates January 19th, 1971.
the existing RS-2 District for increased density, that there will
be 17 single family lots, 31 lots for two family residences and
79 lots for four family apartments, water to be provided by
community well. He submitted photographs of the proposed two
family residences and four family apartments. He advised that he
plant and would phase the development of this project oier an
is aware of the problem of the capacity of the sewerage treatment
Mayor Gottfried pointed out that the city has not as yet
Mr. O'Conner advised that they will request a rezoning from
n eight to ten year period.
was deferred (see motion under Growth Impact Study). determined the rate of growth which can be permitted and action
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appeared in regard to petition submitted to rezone a 33,600
JOHN COUTURE - Mr. Couture, representing Joseph Horovitz,
sq. ft. parcel of property on Janesville Road from RS-2 to RSM
to permit construction of multiple family units. It was noted
by the Commission that a public hearing to consider this petition
has been scheduled for October 19th before the Common Council.
property it would provide a buffer type zoning between the Mr. Couture advised that by permitting apartments on this
Fountainwood Subdivision and the uses on the opposite side of
Janesville Road - an outdoor theater, a beer depot and an automo-
bile service station.
determined the rate of growth which can be permitted and action
Mayor Gottfried pointed out that the city has not as yet
was deferred (see motion under Growth Impact Study).
appeared in regard to petition submitted to rezone approxlmately
RAY STEMPER - Mr. Stemper, National Exchangors, Inc.?
four acres of the former John Victor property in Section 4 between
College Avenue and Martin Drive from RS-2 to RSM to permit
construction of 36 one and two bedroom apartments. It was noted
by the Commission that a public hearing to consider this request
has been scheduled for October 12th before the Common Council. Mr. Stemper submitted a brochure of the "Meadows", a develop-
ment in which they are involved in Delafield. He advised that the
proposed development in Muskego will be a 36 unit, single building
with Jack Shephelddoing the architectural design, that the building
will be 250' long. He submitted an elevation of a similar
building presently under construction in Wausau. In answer to
a question from Mr. Chase, Mr. Stemper advised that they would be
willing to remove the existing homestead on the property.
Mayor Gottfried pointed out that the city has not as yet
determined the rate of growth which can be permitted and action
was deferred (see motion under Growth Impact Study).
HEINZ HATOPP - Mr. Hatopp, realtor representing Melford
Foth, appeared in regard to petition to rezone a 1.78 acre parcel
of property abutting Highway Y and the city's industrial park
from RS-2 to B-2 to permit service establishments. It was noted
October 12th before the Common Council to consider this request.
by the Commission that a public hearing has been scheduled for
purchasing this piece of property which adjoins the Calvary
Mr. Hatopp advised that Rudolph & Moore are interested in
Evangelical Church property presently being considered for
rezoning to 00s to permit the Rudolph 8z Moore law offices.
request pending determination of rate of growth to be permitted
in the city (see motion under Growth Impact Study).
It was the Commission's decision to defer action on this
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September 21, 1971
appeared in regard to petition submitted in May, 1971, to rezone
Drive from 1-2 and RS-3 to RSA with OPD overlay to permit a
approximately 143 acres of the Wallner-DeBack property on McShane
residential planned development. It was noted by the Commission
of the Growth Impact Study.
that action had been deferred on this petition pending completion
Mr. Evinrude reviewed the Mus-kee-guac development which
proposed 140 single family lots, 116 two family residences and 424
multiple family units, a total of 680 units. He also reviewed
dated May 14, 1971, as follows:
the construction schedule as indicated in their letter of intent
AL EVINRUDE - Mr. Evinrude, representing Paschke & Assoc.,
1972 - 150 units
1971 - 150 units
1974 - 150 units
1973 - 150 units
1975 - 80 units.
Mr. Evinrude pointed out that in this project expenses will
be incurred which other developers will not have such as a lift
station at a cost of approximately $150,000.
determined the rate of growth which can be permitted and action
Mayor Gottfried advised that the city has not as yet
was deferred (see motion under Growth Impact Study).
WILLIAM HONECK - Mr. Honeck, 5106 W16480 Loomis Road,
appeared in regard to his petition to rezone a 3/4 acre parcel
of property bordered by Muskego Cam Road and Highway 36 in Section
34 from Agriculture to Agriculture with an OHS overlay to permit
construction of a custard stand.
September 14th and questions raised concerned the drainage ditch
Mayor Gottfried advised that a public hearing had been held
across this property and access to the property across a 50' strip
owned by the state.
Mr. Honeck advised that he has contacted the state and they
have confirmed that he can get access across their property.
rezoning the entire triangular piece of property in this area.
Zoning Officer Lee suggested that the Commission consider
that he has contacted Dairy Queen but has not as yet had a reply
In answer to questions from the Commission, Mr. Honeck advised
from them, that his obtaining a franchise for any custard stand
will depend on the cost of same, that he would be in accord with
granting a maintenance easement for the drainage ditch.
to rezone this property subject to the condition that the city
receive a permanent drainage easement in accordance with recomenda-
tions from the city's engineer and highway superintendent. Ald.
Burgermeister seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Ald. &Back moved to recommend approval to the Common Council
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September 21, 1971
Mayor Gottfried declared recess at 9:21 P. M. and the meeting
reconvened at 9:35 P. M.
had presented and reviewed a study on the impact of growth in the
GROClPTH IMPACT STUDY - At the previous meeting Dr. Mangiamele
City of Muskego, entitled "City of Muskego, Growth Study, 1971".
the Common Council and the Plan Commission to determine a policy
to permit a rate of growth in the city which will not overload the
sewage treatment facilities. He suggested that consulting engineer
for their review the following information regarding the total
John Mielke be invited to attend. He submitted to the Commission
acres lying within the sewered areas:
"Total acres lying within the sewered area - 694 acres
Includes large parcels such as:
Mayor Gottfried suggested that a joint meeting be held between
Mahn (66)
Otto Kurth (35)
Schmidt (100)
Koeferl (122)
Schaefer (85)
Wollman (50)
Small (19)
Arnold Kurth (45)
Margaret Paul (22
Agenten (18)
Lutsch (19)
Henrv Kurth (75)
Root'River Inv. (26)
Holz-Inman (10)
Plus smaller parcels ranging from 2.9 acres to 10.65 acres"
Ald. DeBack and Ald. Burgermeister spoke in favor of increasing
becomes necessary. Mayor Gottfried suggested that this could be
the sewage treatment plant facilities by some method when it
referred to Mr. Mielke at the joint meeting to determine feasibility. Mr. Raimann moved that a joint meeting be scheduled between
the Common Council and the Plan Commission. Mr. Basse seconded
the motion.
Mangiamele pointed out that the "Growth Study" had been prepared
the Plan Commission be submitted at the joint meeting. Dr.
for a discussion basis, that there were many areas in the report
which could be modified. He then submitted and reviewed "Supple-
mentary Explanations to the City of Muskego Growth Study - 1971"
and "Secondary Recommdnations'".
Mr. Basse, Mr. Barry, Mr. Bertram, Ald. Burgermeister, Ald. DeBack
and Mr. Raimann voted "aye" and Mr. Chase voted "no" and the motion
carried.
Ald. DeBack and Mr. Chase suggested a recommendation from
Upon a roll call vote to hold a joint meeting, Mayor Gottfried,
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September 21, 1971
Ald. DeBack moved that the "City of Muskego Growth Study, 1971"
submitted by Dr. Mangiamele September 7th, 1971, be received and
policy. Ald. Burgermeister seconded the motion. Several of the
placed on file and that it not be accepted as a guide to set city
Commissioners expressed the opinion that it would be premature
for the Commission to file the report before meeting jointly with
the Council. Upon a roll call vote, Mayor Gottfried, Mr. Basse,
Ald. DeBack and Ald. Burgermeister voted "aye" and the motion lost.
Mr. Barry, Mr. Bertram, Mr. Chase and Mr. Raimann voted "no" and
dation of the Fourth Alternative in the ''City of Muskego Growth
Study, 1971" and that the program delineated on Page 7 of that
report be used as a guide in establishing the city's future growth.
Mr. Raimann seconded the motion.
discussion with the Common Council.
Mr. Bertram, Ald. Burgermeister and Ald. DeBack voted "no" and
Mr. Chase and Mr. Raimann voted "aye" and the motion lost.
until after the joint meeting - Don Polzin representing Schober &
Radtke, Warren B. O'Conner, Developer of the Edward Kurth Property,
John Couture representing Joseph C. Horovitz, Ray Stemper, National
Exchangors, Inc., Heinz Hatopp representing Melford Foth, and the
D.eBack - Wallner Mus-Kee-Guac Development. Mr. Bertram seconded
the motion and the motion carried.
OTHER BUSINESS
- Mr. Chase then moved-that-the Commission accept the recommen-
Mr. Basse suggested that this motion would be premature pending
Upon a roll call vote, Mayor Gottfried, Mr. Basse, Mr. Barry,
Mr. Raimann moved to defer action on the following requests
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PARKLAND PLAZA - The Commission reviewed a request from the
Hansen Sign Co. to erect a 24' x 12' sign advertising "Parkland
Plaza Shopping Center", same to be located on Highway 24 west of
the entrance to Jerome Drugs as determined by setback requirments.
year period subject to a one year extension. Mr. Bertram seconded
the motion and the motion carried.
Mr. Raimann moved to approve this temporary sign for a one
DE ANGELIS - BOLDT LAND DIVISION - Mayor Gottfried reported
that there is still a question pending concerning a transfer of
property between the city, Mr. DeAngelis and Mrs. Dorothy Boldt
for the Woods Road right-of-way, action deferred on same.
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September 21, 1971
Woodh'ill S
September 1, 1971, for Woodhill, Inc. (Richard Zach, President,
ubdivision which had been prepared by Richard A. 2ach
Paul Burbach, Secretary, Alvin & Mildred Pried).
Mr. Barry reported that the plat is in order with the excep-
for sewers and road in the amount of $25,500. Zoning Officer Lee
tion of a few changes in the sewer plans. He recommended a bond
expressed concern at the name of the subdivision road - Woodhill
Court - because of its similarity to existing street names in the
city.
motion carried.
completion of all plans. Ald. DeBack seconded the motion and the
WOODHILL - The Commission reviewed the final plat for the
Ald. Burgermeister moved that action be deferred until the
MarshTroperty on Oak Court which had been referred to the city
JOHN MARSH - As concerns the proposed division of the John
engineer and highway superintendedt for recommendation, Mr. Barry
reported that it will be necessary to require a 20' x 30' strip
of property for road purposes at the end of the Oak Grove extension
He pointed out that this will permit a 'T" for a turnaround.
Commission will be receptive to a preliminary plat indicating
a 20' x 30' dedication for Oak Grove. Mr. Raimann seconded the
motion and the motion carried.
Ald. Burgermeister moved to approve this sketch and that the
PEAK.& EMERALD DRIVES - JEWEL CREST SUBDIVISION - The Commission
reviewed the proposal to discontinue and vacate portions of
Emerald Drive and Pearl Drive.
the opinion that since the construction of the new Gold Drive,
portions of Pearl and Emerald should be discontinued. He advised
that the vacated property will probably be divided between the
public hearing has been scheduled to consider this vacation for
adjoining property owners. It was noted by the Commission that a
November 9th before theCommon Council.
hearing. Ald. Burgermeister seconded the motion and the motion
carried.
Ald. DeBack reported that the Public Works Committee is of
Ald. DeBack moved to defer action until after the public
CREATION OF SUB-STANDARD LOTS - The Commission reviewed a
communication from City Attorney .fohn Buckley dated September 9,
1971, advising that the Common Council must make the final decision
on requests for creation of a sub-standard lot.
the following land divisions:
of three lots which have adequate average width but will be less
that the existing culvert be removed or replaced;
than required in area for the RS-2 District subject to the condition
Raymond Zangerle's request for division of three parcels of land which will have adequate square footage for the RS-2 District
but will have less than the 110' average width required; and
which will have less than the average width required for the RS-2
District. Ald. Burgermeister seconded the motion and the motion
carried.
Mr. Basse moved to recommend to the Common Council to approve
Josephine Scheerer, agent for A. Spirer, request for division
Edward Kumm's request for division of three parcels one of
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LANDFILL APPLICATIONS - Ald. DeBack moved to schedule a
public hearing to consider a request from Wauer Landfill, Inc.,
for a land fill site on 134 acres in Section 18 for 7:15 P. M.,
November 2nd, 1971, and a request from Norman Thomas and Allen
Van Dyken for a land fill site on approximately 16.25 acres in
Section 5 for 7:30 P. M. November 2nd, 1971. Mr. Basse seconded
the motion and the motion carried.
"""""""""" COMMUNICATIONS & MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS
PLAN COMMISSION SUB-COMMITTEE - In addition to Planning
Consultant Maneiamele. Zonine Officer Lee. and himself. Mayor
Gottfried appointed Aid. Burgermeister and Mr. Raimann.to .
meet with Ray Gray, Rite Realty, regarding development Of the
Walter Wollman farm.
OFFICIAL'S REPORTS """"-
ENGINEER'S REPORT - Mr. Barry reported that he has received
and anmoved the certified survey map for the Everett Drews
division in the NE 1/4 of Section 18-with the revision of the road
entralre on Hillendale Drive.
ADJOURNMENT: Ald. DeBack moved for adjournment at 11:02 P. M.
Mr. Barry seconded the motion and the motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
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Barbara J.
Recording Secretary
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