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PCM19680917CITY PIAN COMMISSION CITY OF MUSKEG0 MINVTES OF MEETING HELD SEPTEMBER 17, 1968 CITY HALL Alderman Narlock called the meeting to order at 8:03 P. M. in the absence of Mayor Wieselmann. PRESENT: Ald. Frank Narlock, Sec'y, Alvin Basse, Charles Buehler, Willard Bertram arrived at 8:05 P. H. and Building Inspector Lee arrived at 8:lO P. M. MINVTES: Mrs. Sanders moved to approve the minutes of the previous meeting of September 3, 1968, as mailed. Mr. Buehler seconded the motion and the motion carried. PERSONAL APPEARANCES d Raimann, Mrs. Jean Sanders and Plan Consulta nt Russell hetzger. """""_ DAVID RAGUS - Mr. Ragus, S74 W20850 Field Dr., appeared seeking final approval for land division in the NE$, Sec. 7. It was noted that Mr. Ragus had appeared before the Commission August 15, 1967, seeking procedure to divide his land into two parcels and that the Commission had suggested that he contact a surveyor to determine the best division of his property. map which had been prepared by Surveyor R. C. Hardie September 13, Mr. Ragus submitted a plat of survey and certified survey Commission also reviewed the City Engineer's report recommending 1968, as well as satisfactory percolation tests (12-15-12). The approval of the certified survey map. There was considerable discussion of the awkward layout of the two parcel division and Mr. Ragus explained that the layout is necessary in this manner to gain the required square footage for Lot #1 because of the location of an existing foundation on which he intends to build his new home. Planner Knetzger suggested that the Common Council be petitioned for a variance in accordance with Section 12 of the Sub-division Control Ordinance in order that two better shaped lots might be created, however, Mr. Ragus ex- pressed concern at such a delay pointing out that if the area were rezoned the division could be revised at that time. It was also noted by the Commission that there was not a sale of land involved in this division. carried. this division. Mr. Raimann seconded the motion and the motion e Mrs. Sanders moved to approve the certified survey map for ROBERT STACK & CHRIS ZELIG - Mr. Stack and Mr. Zelig, Relo- cation Realty representatives, appeared to discuss the proposed rezoning of properties in Secs. 9 & 16 from RS-3 (Suburban Residence) to RSM (Multiple Family) as this matter had been re- ferred back to the Commission from the Common Council for further study and recommendation. Ald. Narlock explained that the Common Council had requested an expression from the Commission as to their feeling regarding the rezoning as well as a more definite idea as to what is being proposed for the area. Page 2 - Plan Commission September 17, 1968 Mr. Zelig stated that it would be their intention to ultimately have 54 - 3 bedroom units, 58 - 2 bedroom units and 24 - 1 bedroom units in townhouses and garden apartments, that this ratio would average out to 2.2 bedrooms per unit, that it would be their plan ment to determine occupancy demand. He advised that because of to construct an equal number of each in the first stage of develop- Muskego's restriction of 8.5 units per acre, higher occupancy and higher rental would be necessary to make the development economically feasible, that rents would average from approximately $140 for 1 bedroom to $175-180 for 3 bedrooms. Mr. Zelig pointed out that 136 families would spend considerable money in the city for food, gas, etc. that the value of each dwelling would be approximately $14,000, that building plans are not definite - the first step would be to develop the land by bringing in sewers and roads, that the entire development would be completed within two years. Mrs. Sanders expressed concern that the 3 bedroom apartments would place a burden on the schools and that she would favor the smaller bedroom units. city is in need of multiple family dwellings, he would favor a Mr. Basse expressed the opinion that although he felt the reduction in the number of three bedroom units. Planner Knetzger pointed out that studies indicate that and that 3 bedroom units are a tax liability, that the units in such 1 bedroom units are a tax asset, that 2 bedroom units break even a development should average 2.0 bedrooms per unit rather than 2.2 as indicated by the developer. be considered at this time, that if the area is rezoned, the develop- ment should then be considered, but that the developer should be made aware of the Commission's feeling. Building Inspector Lee pointed out that the multiple family area would be more desirable, in his opinion, along Highway 24 than in the undeveloped area as proposed. Planner Knetzger pointed who had appeared at the informal hearings, that multiple family must out that this rezoning had been created in the interest of the people be considered for the area mentioned, but at a later date. and sewer areas should be determined prior to granting a rezoning. Mr. Buehler expressed the opinion that the sewer capacity read by the.Recording Secretary: The following communication dated September 13, 1968, was then "Gentlemen: of the Sanitary Sewer Development Plan with the limits of the original service area marked in red. This area is now being sewered under existing construction contracts. The existing sewage stauization ponds were designed for this area with an equivalent design population load of 2600 persons. Please advise us if additional information is desired. In answer to questions from the Commission, Mr. Zelig answered Mr. Raimann expressed the opinion that only the rezoning should At the request of Mr. Russell Knetzger we are enclosing a map Yours very truly, /s/ J. H. Mielke" September 17, 1968 Page 3 - Plan Commission e Mr. Jerome Gottfried, representative of Little Muskego Lake Association, urged the Commission to defer action until they could discuss the sewer program with City Engineer John Mielke, that Lake. He further stated that in his opinion the multiple family the city must consider sewering the west side of Little Muskego should be considered for the area along Highway 24 rather than the proposed undeveloped areas. Ald. DeBack expressed the opinion that a sewer study would be a waste of money before an area is rezoned pointing out that the only matter before the Council is a rezoning request, that they should not be concerned with a development prior to the rezoning. in a private sewage treatment facility if they could get a higher density rate in the multiple family development. After further discussion, Mr. Buehler moved to have the City Engineer appear before the Commission to report on the sewer program, report, and that an opinion be requested as to whether or not that the rezoning recommendation be held in abeyance pending this Raimann seconded the motion and the motion carried. outlying districts can be tapped into existing sewer lines. Mr. It was the Commission's decision to request Mr. Mielke to appear at their next meeting, October 1st. at which time the Council and Commission will meet jointly. Mr. Zelig advised that his company would be prepared to put a certified survey map for Chris Youssi, W175 S7052 Hiawatha Dr., RONALD ZIMMERMAN - Surveyor Zimmerman appeared and submitted to create two lots from three substandard lots (Lots 3, 4 & 5, Block 12, Muskego Shores Subd.) It vas noted by the Commission that Mr. Youssi's existing home would be on Lot 3 and 1/2 of Lot 4 and that the second vacant lot would consist of Lot 5 and 1/2 of Lot 4, and that although the two proposed lots would not meet the RS3District (OED) requirement, they would be improved compared to the existing lots. The Commission also reviewed the City Engineer's report recom- mending approval of this certified survey map with the following comment: "AS this is a survey of 3 lots in a recorded subdivision, the purpose is to establish only two lots, therefore, the record should show that Lot 4 cannot be sold or built on separately." creates Lots A & B from Lots 3, 4, & 5, Block 12, Muskego Shores Subd. as submitted. Mr. Bertram seconded the motion and the motion carried. e Mr. Buehler moved to approve this certified survey map which HAROID DE BACK - Mr. DeBack, W198 S10856 Racine Ave., appeared property in Sec. 29 abutting Parker Drive, R-1 District. to discuss a proposed 80,000 sq. ft. parcel to be divided from his The Commission reviewed a preliminary plat which had been development plan of Mr. DeBack's entire property which had been prepared by Waukesha Land Surveys, 9-16-68, as well as a suggested prepared by the Waukesha County Park & Planning Commission in May, 1966. There was discession of the 60' wide, proposed, subdivision & VI.B.2 of the Subdivision Control Ordinance which indicated that extension-of Parker Drive. Planner Knetzger reviewed Secs. V.B.6 a subdivider can be required to plat up to a 100' right-of-way and suggested that the right-of-way on the plat be increased to 80' to avoid an awkward connection to Parker Rd. 0 Page 4 - Plan Commission September 17, 1968 proposed division subject to the Planner's reevaluation of the proposed right-of-way width. Mr. Basse seconded the motion and the motion carried. Mrs. Sanders moved to approve this preliminary plat for the DAVE BEIERLE - Mr. Beierle, Agent, appeared and submitted a certified survey map for Richard Markgraf which had been pre- pared by Surveyor Donald C. Haarmann. The Commission reviewed the survey as well as a report from the City Engineer recommending that the survey not be approved for the following reasons: decided by the Commission as to further width. This road will be 24.75' and 30' setback of iron stakes. Between Parcels C .% B a rebuilt and be required to be a minimum width of 66'. Map shows 60' strip is being reserved for access to Parcel D. North point should be referenced to identifiable meridian. Soil map shows questionable soils in part." been submitted to their meeting June 18, 1968, were satisfactory The Commission noted that the percolation tests which had (48-60-60). It was also noted that sketches for this division had been approved at their meeting April 22, 1968, however, the sketch had indicated that Parcel A would be 575' deep to blend with the adjacent Quentin Nelson property and the parcel was not of this size on the certified survey map. and Mr. Marlcgraf advising them that the Commission feels that the Mr. Buehler moved that a letter be directed to Mr. Beierle sketch would be a more appropriate division of land than the survey submitted unless information is submitted which would be of interest to the Commission and that the Commission will act favorably on a division which follows the sketch subject to Union Church Drive having a road dedication of 50', and that the Commission will not take action on this matter pending a reply. Mr. Basse seconded the motion and the motion carried. "Description does not except Union Church Road. This should be LAWRENCE GRAVES - Mr. Graves, Big Bend, appeared and submitted property on Hillendale Drive in Sec. 7. He explained that he had sketches for a second garage structure to be constructed on his second garage structure for storage and to house a trailer. recently sold his home in Big Bend and desires to construct the that it meets building requirements. Mr. Buehler seconded the motion and the motion carried. Mr. Raimann moved to approve this request with the condition Alderman Narlock declared a recess at 9:lO P. M. and the meeting reconvened at 9:20 P. M. OTHER BUSINESS """_ A. D. SCHMIDT - The Commission reviewed a request from Mr. Schmidt, Waukesha, for architectural approval to reconstruct an existing "ready" building on the former Nike Site, Tomar Dr., for residential use. Building Inspector Lee advised that Mr. Schmidt has requested a variance in required floor area which will be considered by the Board of Appeals at their meeting September 26th. Page 5 - Plan Commission September 17, 1968 e Mr. Basse moved to defer action pending results of the Board of Appeals and more information. Mr. Bertram seconded the motion and the motion carried. and Amrlock - met just prior to this regular Plan Commission meeting with Plan Consultant Knetzger. After review of proposed expenditures for the year 1969, Mr. Buehler moved to recommend a budget totaling $18,650.00 to the Finance Committee for consideration. Mr. Raimann seconded the motion and the motion carried. BUDGET - The Budget Committee - Chairman Buehler, Mr. Raimann ADJOURNMENT - Mrs. Sanders moved for adjournment, Mr. Basse secbnded the motion and the meeting adjourned at 11:25 P. Me Respectfully submitted, Barbara J. Sands Recording Secretary b js 9-20-68