PCM19680716CITY PLAN COMMISSION
CITY OF MUSKEG0
MINUTES OF MEETING JULY 16, 1968
CITY HALL
Mayor Wieselmann called the meeting to order at 8:lO P. M.
PRESENT: Mayor Donald Wieselmann, Chairman, Alderman Frank Narlock,
Secretary, Willard Bertram, Charles Buehler, Mrs. Jean Sanders and
Ed Raimann. Building Inspector Lee and Plan Consultant Knetzger
were also present.
ABSENT: Alvin Basse
MINUTES: The Recording Secretary advised that on Page 1, first
paragraph under Stanley Dobrzynski, "truck parking ordinance"
should be changed to "zoning ordinance relating to truck parking".
Alderman Narlock moved to approve the minutes of the previous
meeting of July 2, 1968, as corrected. Mr. Raimann seconded the
motion and the motion carried unanimously.
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PERSONAL APPEARANCES
MRS. ADELINE HENDRICKSON - Mrs. Hendrickson, S90 W13276 Boxhorn
Dr.. appeared seeking final avoroval of land division for a
1.5 acre parcel in Section 24-bn which Wayne Weber desires to con-
struct a dwelling.
The Commission reviewed the certified survey map, satisfactory
percolation tests and the city engineer's recommendation for
approval. It was noted by the Commission that the preliminary plat
for this division of land had been approved October 3, 1967, and
that at that time unsatisfactory percolation tests had been received.
Building Inspector Lee advised that the recent satisfactory perco-
lation tests had been taken in the area where the leach bed will be
installed.
Sanders seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
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Mr. Buehler moved to approve this certified survey map. Mrs.
JOHN HELLING - Mr. Helling, Brookfield National Bank representa-
tive, appeared seeking architectural approval to move a bank building
SE corner of Highway 24 and Lannon Drive.
from Brookfield Square shopping center to their property on the
field Square by the end of July, that it is their intention to
temporarily store the bank building until decision of management as
to whether or not they would use the building for the Muskego Branch
Bank or move it to another locality, that the building is of good
structure, and that 90 days would be an adequate length of time for
the permit. Mr. Helling submitted a photograph of the building in
question.
that the permit expire October 15, 1968. Alderman Narlock seconded
Mr. Buehler moved to approve this request with the stipulation
the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Hellingadvisedthat .the bank bldg-must be moved from Brook-
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July 16, 1968
e HAROLD DIEKFUSS - Mr. Diekfuss, S69 W15402 Janesville Rd.,
appea-sultation with the Commission concerning a
proposed 2 acre division of his property in Sec. 2. He advised
fronting Janesville Road to the Waukesha National Bank and that the Commission that he was considering selling 2 acres of land
his remaining frontage along Janesville Road is being considered
by the highway department for a corridor route and ramp area for
the Waukesha County By-pass, pointing out that this would create
land locked parcels to the rear.
Mr. Diekfuss and a legal representative, along with a representative
It was the Commission's decision that it would be wise for
from the Waukesha National Bank, to contact the State Highway
County By-pass in relationship to his property and/or secure an
Commission to ascertain the exact location of the proposed Waukesha
which may be created to the rear of the farm. The Plan Commission
easement across the bank's property for access to other parcels
also advised Mr. Diekfuss that they would consider planning an
access to the rear property when the land to the west is developed.
to the State Highway Commission advising that the Plan Commission
is anxious to have the exact location of the by-pass defined to aid
in proper development of lands in this area.
It was also the Commission's decision that a letter be directed
Mayor Wieselmann declared a recess at 8:45 P. M. and the
meeting reconvened at 8:52 P. M.
OTHER BUS1 NES S i - - - - - - -
STANLEY DOBRZYNSKI - The following report and recommendation
dated July 15, 1968, from Nelson & Assoc. concerning Mr. Dobrzynski's
permit to park a commercial truck at his residence, W152 S10431
Thode Drive, was read by the Recording Secretary:
"Gentlemen:
truck permit granted Mr. Dobrzynski on February 6, 1968, for three
years, was referredto our office for study and report.
Mr. Dobrzynski's property is located on the corner of Thode
Drive and old STH 36, in what is really a small residential subdivi-
sion of individual metes and bounds divisions off of the highway.
Within an 800 feet radius of the property there are 8 residences,
and within 1200 feet there are 16. Most are approximately one acre
lots.
Ordinance #74, which removed the old prohibition of parking
of more than one panel sized truck on a residential property, allows
and in other zoning districts may permit additional trucks if the
the Plan Commission to grant any number in agriculturally zoned areas,
area is "predominantly undeveloped."
undeveloped" standard of "no more than three homes within 800 feet
of the truck parking site" does not apply directly. However, since
Ordinance #74 leaves the final decision on granting parking in either
agricultural or non-agriculturally zoned areas up to the Plan Com-
mission, in these situations where a substantial grouping of homes
exists in an otherwise agricultural area, consideration should be
given by the P lan Commission to applying this standard to such a
situation.
At your meeting of July 2, 1968, the matter of review of the
Since this area is zoned agriculturally, the "predominantly
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July 16, 1968
If the "predominantly undeveloped" standard is applied, the
parking on the Dobrzynski parcel would not be permissible. In
view of the number of homes involved in this area, and the exposed
nature of the parking site in this case, we would recommend that
the permit be revoked.
Respectfully submitted,
Nelson & Assoc., Inc."
The Recording Secretary also read the following excerpt from
the Plan Commission meeting minutes of November 21, 1967:
"In answer to questions from the Commission, Mr. Dobrzynski advised
that the truck is a semi-trailer and tractor, that the material car-
ried is flammable, that he uses the truck to drive back and forth
& Chemicals, that his working hours are between 5:OO A. M. and 1O:OO
to work, that the truck is owned by his employer Milwaukee Solvents
P. M. when he is in the City, that neighbors have not complained
directly to him, that his route of travel from home is Thode Dr.
been parking his truck at this residence for 6 years. He also
to Hiway 36, that he has worked for this company for 6 years and has
advised that it would be a hardship if he were not allowed to park
the truck at his home as it would involve the purchase of an addi-
tional car .It
The Commission discussed their policies relating to commercial
truck parking, also giving thought to the possibility of classifying
city roads, and the following motion resulted: Mr. Buehler moved
that Mr. Dobrzynski be advised that the permit granted to him to
park his commercial truck at his residence will terminate September
1, 1968, because a hardship apparently no longer exists for trans-
portation, the size and contents of the truck are prohibitive,
the amount of use of the truck, and because of its flammable
Mr. Bertram seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
contents the location of the parking site near Oak Grove school.
FRANK AGENTEN -
in Sec. 1 (Woodridge
survey map submitted
The Commission reviewed a revised certified
by Mr. Agenten for the division of two lots
Subdivision) one of which will be used for
private sewage easement. It was noted by the Commission that the
revised map indicated finished grades at corners as requested by
the Commission at their meeting June 4, 1968. They also reviewed
the results of the percolation tests which were unsatisfactory.
After discussion, Mr. Buehler moved that Mr. Agenten be
advised that the Commission could not take action on this division
because the percolation tests were unsatisfactory., that a question
of drainage arose and that the Commission recommends that he
contact Plan Consultant Russell Knetzger to clarify this drainage
problem to expedite the division. Mrs. Sanders seconded the motion
and the motion carried unanimously.
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July 16, 1968
EDWIN DUMKE - The Plan Commission reviewed a preliminary
plat and certified survey map for proposed 3 acre parcel in
Section 24 submitted by Edwin Dumke, W127 S9062 N. Cape Rd.
to the City Engineer's approval, and subject to changing the
wor& "dedicated for road purposes" to "reserved for road purposes"
on the certified survey map. Ald. Narlock seconded the motion
and the motion carried unanimously.
Mrs. Sanders moved to approve the certified survey map subject
SUNRISE TERRACE ADDN. #1 - The Commission reviewed the final
plat oi Sunrise Terrace Addn. #l. Town of Vernon. which lies within
Muskego's extra-territorial jurisdiction.
seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
be advised that, although the city's comprehensive plan does not
City is giving consideration at this time to extending sewers to
indicate that the adjacent area in Muskego will be sewered, the
that area and that when future addtions to Sunrise Terrace are
developed, consideration should be given to this proposed sewer
extension.
Mr. Raimann moved to approve this final plat. Mr. Bertram
It was the Commission's decision that Mr. Fred Knoll, owner,
WIS. NATURAL GAS CO. - The Commission reviewed a request,
dated July 3, 1968, requesting permission to install a main
on Hillendale Drive, a main on an easement, a main on a proposed
road, and a main to serve Louis Osborn, W131 S6742 Kipling Drive.
The Cornmission reviewed the plan submitted.
this request be approved. Mrs. Sanders seconded the motion and
the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Bertram moved to recommend to the Common Council that
MUSKEG0 VOL. FIRE DEPT. - SUB-STATION - The Commission reviewed
the building, site and operational plans submitted for the proposed
sub-station to be located on Racine Ave. on the former Harold
DeBack property.
plans as submitted. Ald. Narlock seconded the motion.
a more detailed site plan which would indicate parking areas, land-
scaping, etc. Mrs. Sanders then withdrew her motion with the
consent of Ald. Narlock.
advised that the Commission requests a more detailed site plan
Mr. Buehler then moved that the Muskego Vol. Fire Dept. be
in accordance with the City's checklist and that for assistance
Narlock seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
in preparing the plan, they contact Building Inspector Lee. Ald.
to R-1 with OIP overlay, Mr. Buehler moved to recommend to the
As concerns the proposed rezoning of this parcel from R-1
Common Council to approve this rezoning request. Mrs. Sanders
seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
Mrs. Sanders moved to approve the site, building and operational
It was then determined that the Commission would like to have
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Hi-Y DRIVE & SIMANDL DRIVE DISCONTINUANCE - After review
department concerning Hi-Y Drive and Simandl Drive in Hi-Y
af the Racine Ave. relocation and proposal of the highway
Subdivision, the following motion resulted:
endorsement of the State Highway Commission's proposal to close
Hi-Y Drive as indicated in their letter April 23, 1968, and also
endorses the closing of Simandl Drive as proposed by the State
Highway Commission. Mrs. Sanders seconded the motion and the
motion carried unanimously.
Alderman Narlock moved to reaffirm the Plan Commission's
to th'is Plan Commission meetine to consider Pavne & Dolan and
STATE SAND & GRAVEL - A public hearing was held just prior
State Sand & Gravel's request Tor renewal of tieir conditional
use for continued extractive operation in Section 18.
Alderman Narlock moved to recommend to the Common Council
continuation of the bond in the amount of $30,000. Mr. Buehler
that State Sand & Gravel's extractive permit be renewed with
seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
COMMUNICATIONS ""_"
The following communication dated July 12, 1968, in regard
to request for a permit for a 30 inch natural gas pipe line was
read by the Recording Secretary:
"Dear Mrs. Sands:
This is in reference to your letter of July 10, 1968, in which
you question the reason for the proposed 30 inch pipeline-being
deviated away from the existing lines as shown on our alignment
sheets.
It is our intent andcksire, as well as that of Michigan
Wisconsin Pipe Line Co:, to lay the proposed line parallel to and
25 feet from the existing lines where possible. However, in the
area in question, that is, Section 18, T5N, R20E, it is necessary
to deviate from the existing lines due to an active gravel pit
being at that location.
enable you to process our permit application.
We trust this is the information you request and that it will
Very truly yours,
/s/ H. L. Weier, Permit Eng.
Ford, Bacon & Davis"
As State Sand & Gravel had advised the Commission at the
be no obstacle to placing this line within the existing right-
public hearing held just prior to this meeting that there would
of-way, the following motion resulted: Alderman Narlock moved
Michigan Wisconsin Pipe Line Co. to install a 30 inch natural gas
to recommend to the Common Council that a permit be granted to
pipe line across a portion of the City of Muskego with the
condition that the pipeline be installed within their existing
right-of-way. Mr. Raimann seconded the motion and the motion
carried unanimously.
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July 16, 1968
PLANNER'S REPORTS
CITY EWRANCE SIGNS - The following recommendation dated
July 12, 1968, regarding City Entrance Signs was reviewed by
Planner Knetzger:
"Gentlemen:
inspect the site for the official city entrance sign. It is being
constructed in the triangle of land formed by STH 24 and College
Avenue.
We have checked for any possible interference of the sign
with traffic vision, expecially for vehicles exiting on to STH
out of old telephone poles is being well handled, though such a
24 from College Ave., and find no problem. The rustic construction
designed and recommended for the city's entrance signs.
treatment should definitely have the landscaped setting we originally
The only detracting feature about the new sign is that it is
other signs are non-conforming, and by city ordinance were to have
just one more in a clutter of 5 or 6 existing signs. All of the
been removed 4 years after passage of the city's original sign
code. However, they were not removed, and on March 12, 1968, a new
code was adopted which does not require removal of non-conforming
signs. Perhaps this was an oversight, and therefore we recommend
that this provision be reinstated, and these signs removed.
as the Lions, Rotary, Kiwanis, etc., will seek permission to erect
signs near the entrance of the City. Some municipalities allow these
signs to be placed on the same supports as the official municipal
sign (which is the case with neighboring Hales Corners). Others
have recommended for Muskego. If easements are being negotiated for permit erection of a second or "twin" sign nearby. This is what we
the placing of this first sign, we would encourage at the same time
the obtaining of an easement for the second sign, about 50 feet
westerly along 24 of this first sign.
At your meeting of July 2, 1968, we were instructed to field
Sooner or later, each of the city's service organizations, such e
Respectfully submitted,
Nelson & Assoc., Inc."
After discussion, Mrs. Sanders moved to recommend to the
Common Council that the Muskego Zoning Ordinance, Sec. 6.10,
be amended to reinstate the provision that existing non-conforming
signs be removed. Alderman Narlock seconded the motion and the
motion carried unanimously.
ZONING RE-EVALUATION STUDY - Planner Knetzger advised that
meeting between the Council and Plan Commission be scheduled in
this study will be completed soon and suggested that a joint
August to consider the recommendation.
ADJOURNMENT - Mr. Raimann moved for adjournment, Mr. Buehler
seconded the motion and the meeting adjourned at 10.:.17 P. M.
Respectfully submitted, w
Barbara J. Sands
Recording Secretary
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