PCM19680521CITY PLAN COMMISSION
CITY OF MUSKEG0
MINVTES OF MEETING MAY 21, 1968
CITY HALL
Mayor Wieselmann called the meeting to order at 8:05 P. M. and
introduced the new Plan Commission members - Mr. Alvin Basse,
citizen appointment, and Mrs. Jean Sanders, Park & Recreation Board
president.
Willard Bertram, Charles Buehler, Alderman Frank Narlock, Ed
PRESENT: Mayor Donald Wieselmann, chairman, Alvin Basse,
Raimann and Jean Sanders. Building Inspector Lee and Plan Consul-
tant Russell Knetzger were also present.
MINUTES: Mr. Buehler moved to approve the minutes of the pre-
motion and the motion carried unanimously.
vious meeting, May 7, 1968, as mailed. Mr. Raimann seconded the
ELECTION OF SECRETARY: Mr. Buehler moved to nominate Alderman
Narlock as secretary of the Plan Commission. Mr. Bertram seconded
the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
Commission cast a unanimous vote for Alderman Narlock as secretary.
Mr. Bertram seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
PERSONAL APPEARANCES
Mr. Basse moved that the nominations be closed and that the
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FRANK PRESTON - Mr. Preston, New Berlin, appeared and submitted
a layout of a portion of the Mary Preston property on Luckow Drive
in Section 5. He advised that the structure on this property is
to be used exclusively by Conco, Inc.! the present tenant, for
equipment, that the operation and function of this company is dic-
the purpose of warehousing and servicing its own construction
tated by the seasons. The summer months require management to be
months bring the machines back to the warehouse for storage and
in the field performing services weather permitting. Unseasonable
service.
In answer to questions from the Commission, Mr. Preston
advised that the 102' setback will be used for storage of equipment,
that there are 3 homes and a tavern on the east side of this
parcel, however, there are plantings which screen the area, that
the Mill Valley School is located to the south, and that Luckow
to the west and north are vacant lands owned by Mary Preston and
Drive is not an official road.
affect on this property. It was noted by the Commission that this
property and structure had previously been used for a cabinet shop.
Mr. Buehler expressed concern at the heavy equipment being
stored on this property and the Commission discussed this use in
an RS-2 OHS District. Mr. Preston pointed out that eventually this
property will be used for light industry as a buffer between the
gravel company and residential area, that in his opinion it will
never be suitable for residential development.
There was discussion of the relocation of Highway Y and its
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Planner Knetzger pointed out that in view of the relocation
of Highway Y, the zoning in this area might be out-of-date and re-
commended that this matter be held in abeyance pending completion
of a zoning study of the area. He advised that the study could
probably be completed within 6 weeks.
port from the plan consultant. Ald. Narlock seconded the motion
and the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Buehler moved to defer action on this matter pending re-
RAYMOND SMITH - Mr. Smith, W167 S6869 Oak Hill Dr., appeared
and submitted a sketch for division of Lot 1, Block A, Southern
Heights Subdivision. However, as the sketch was not detailed as
to the size and shape of the proposed parcels, Alderman Narlock
moved to defer action on this request until a sketch has been sub-
mitted showing this intended division in detail. Mr. Basse seconded
the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
WILLARD MASTERSON - Mr. Masterson, Wauwatosa, appeared requesting
ment Park (DandiLion Park) excepting the parking area. He submitted approval to install an 8' high fence around the Muskego Beach Amuse-
plans of the area proposed for fence as well as letters of approval
of the fence from adjacent property owners. He also requested per-
mission to turn the existing sign on Highway 24 for better visibility
to traffic.
advised that the fence will be 7' in height of green, plastic-
In answer to questions from the Commission, Mr. Masterson
coated fabric with three strands of barbed wire across the top,
that he desires the fence as it is his intention to charge an ad-
mission fee, that the barbed wire is necessary for security, and
parks for the Commission and his future plans for this park.
that there will be 4 gates. Mr. Masterson reviewed the history of
After discussion Mr. Raimann moved to grant approval to this
request for an 8' high fence at Muskego Beach Amusement Park and
permission to turn the sign. Mr. Bertram seconded the motion and
the motion carried unanimously.
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HALES CORNERS SAND & GRAVEL - Messrs. Ray Foelkner & John
Babich appeared to discuss their gravel operation in Section 12
and to request renewal of their extractive permit which expires
June 17, 1968. They advised the Commission that 70% to 80% of
the restoration of the property has been completed and that they
probably would be in operation for approximately one more year.
of their conditional use grant must be submitted, the $30,000
restoration bond extended and a public hearing scheduled.
this request for 7:30 P. M., June 18, 1968. Mrs. Sanders seconded
the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
the site prior to the hearing to determine if restoration has
progressed satisfactorily.
Mayor Wieselmann advised that the petitions requesting renewal
Mr. Buehler moved to schedule the public hearing to consider
Planner Knetzger suggested that the Commission members view e
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JOSEPH KELLY - As Mr. Kelly was not present to discuss with
the Commission the re-submission of his petitions for rezoning
certain property in Sections 9 and 16 from RS-3 (Suburban Residence)
to RSM (Multiple Family), Building Inspector Lee advised that Mr.
Kelly desired to sell this property and wished to have it rezoned
prior to the sale.
The following communication dated Feb. 29, 1968, directed to
Mr. Kelly was reaz by the Recording Secretary:
"Dear Mr. Kelly:
At their meeting Tuesday evening
Commission reviewed your petition for
9 and 16.
It was their decision to hold th
entire reevaluation of zoning in this
evaluation study. it will necessitate
, February 20th. the Plan
rezoning property in Secs.
is in abeyance pending an
more time to intelligently
area. Because of this re-
act on this petition than is noramlly required.
of the City and of your future plans if you will withdraw the pe-
tition at this time.
For this reason it appears that it will be in the best interest
/s/ Gerald P. Lee"
Yours very truly,
and recommended that the petition be expanded to include adjacent
Planner Knetzger advised that he is in favor of the rezoning
properties (Pufall, Lindner & Adams). He reviewed the area in
question on the topographic map pointing out that a portion of the
property in this area is unbuildable and could be used for open
space.
the next meeting pending further study of the area in question, and
that Messrs. Lester Pufall, Bernard Lindner & Robert Adam be
requested to appear at the next Plan Commission meeting. Mr.
Buehler seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
Alderman Narlock moved to defer action on this petition until
and submitted a sketch of a proposal to shift the lot line between
two lots in Bay Shore Estates to create two 70' lots from a 65'
of the one existing building would still conform to requirements
lot and a 75' lot. The Commission was assured that the location
ments for this RS-2 OLS District, it was not necessary for this
and because the proposed lots would also conform to the require-
Commission's decision to advise Mrs. Robb that they would appre-
division to be approved by the Commission. However, it was the
ciate if she would process the certified survey map through the
Commission for record purposes.
MRS. V. L. ROBB - Mrs. Robb, W191 S7312 Shore Lane, appeared
Mayor Wieselmann called for recess at 9:40 P. M. and the
meeting resumed at 9:48 P. M.
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May 21, 1968 a OTHER BUSINESS """_
MEADOWDALE SUBDIVISION - As regards this request from Mrs.
Irene Fohr and Gerald Fohr that all remainine lots in the Meadow-
dale Subdivision be declared legal lots due io the advent of
sewers, the following communication dated May 20,., 1968, from
City Engineer Ruekert, regarding drainage easements, was read by
the Recording Secretary:
"Gentlemen:
16, 1968, regarding the Meadowdale Subdivision drainage problem,
it was recommended that the water be drained from the North along
Lannon Drive, to the East along the North Subdivision line, (being
the North line of Section lo), to the East ditch line of Meadow
Drive. It would then drain South along Meadow Drive to a point
opposite the lot line between Lots 9 and 10 in Block No. 4, then
draining Easterly along this lot line, discharging in the low area
lying East of this Subdivision.
The easements necessary in following this route would be as
follows:
1. A 20' easement either contained entirely in Lots 1 thru
4, Block 3 of Meadowdale Subdivision, or centered on the Subdivision
line; 10' on the above lots and 10' on Lots 2 thru 6 in Block C
of Southern Heights Subdivision.
dale Subdivision. (10' on each lot.)
to construct a swale which said swale will tie into future drainage
of the Couture development.
Pursuant to the meeting with the Board of Public Works on May
2. A 20' Easement between Lots 9 and 10, Block 4, of Meadow-
Permission or an easement should also be acquired to the East
If there is any further information desired, please contact us.
Very truly yours,
/s/ F. J. Ruekert"
After review of the Meadowdale Subdivision and Southern
Heights Subdivision Plats, Ald. Narlock moved to recommend to the
Common Council that the lots in Meadowdale Subdivision be granted
legal status subject to the condition that the proper surface,
drainage easements as indicated in the city engineer's report of
May 20th. and that as concerns the choice in Item 1, the easements
be centered on the sub'division line, taking 10' from Southern
Heights Subdivision and 10' from Meadowdale Subdivision. Mr.
Bertram seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
WISCONSIN NATURAL GAS COMPANY - Resolution #70-68, plan of
dated April 22, 1968, were referred to the Plan Commission from
proposed main and lateral and the following explanatory letter
8.01 (7) A. 5:
the Common Council for recommendation in accordance with Sec.
a "Honorable Gentlemen:
1046 ft. of 6" H. P. gas main and one 3/4" H. P. lateral to serve
H. Nimitz, W193 S7477 Racine Ave.
office at 547-5541.
We respectfully request permission to install approximately
If any further information is required, please contact our
Very truly yours,
/s/ M. J. Asztalos"
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be better restoration if a bond were required. After further dis-
cussion, Mr. Bertram moved to recommend to the Common Council that
permission be given to the Wis. Natural Gas Co. to install a main
as described in the resolution with the condition that the resto-
with maps showing the over-all system so that future proposals can
ration be completed in every respect and that the City be supplied
be evaluated. Mr. Buehler seconded the motion and the motion
carried unanimously.
There was some discussion as to whether or not there might
JOHN ALLISON - The Public Works Committee requested the Plan
Commission to determine if Lot 1, Posbrig's Plat, could be declared
a buildable lot if reduced due to the extension of Muskego Dam
Drive. It was noted by the Commission that the percolation tests
on this lot had proved inadequate. Mr. Buehler suggested that the
owners of property to the south of this parcel be contacted to
determine if they would be interested in purchasing the remaining
portion of the lot after the road has been extended.
Mr. Raimann moved to recommend to the Public Works Committee
that this lot would not be suitable to be declared a buildable lot
because of inadequate size and percolation tests. Mr. Basse seconded
the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
GUMIENY'S TAP - Mayor Wieselmann advised that the First National
Bank of Waukesha branch had opened at S69 W15612 Janesville Road
ahead of schedule and that Mr. Gumieny had requested permission to
operate the tavern during non-banking hours until June lst, 1968.
Building Inspector Lee advised that it would be acceptable for the
tavern to operate during the time the restrooms are not used by the
bank employees.
Mr. Buehler moved that the Commission modify its original motion
to permit the tavern to operate until June lst, 1968, during non-
banking hours. Alderman Narlock seconded the motion and the motion
carried unanimously.
BROOKFIELD NATIONAL BANK - Building Inspector Lee advised
that the Brookfield National Bank, a subsidiary of the
First Wisconsin National Bank, had requested an occupancy permit
for W179 S7666 Racine Avenue. The Commission reviewed a temporary
layout of the proposed banking facility which had been prepared
May 13, 1968.
Ald. Narlock moved to defer action on the occupancy permit
pending receipt of a more complete request by a personal representa-
tive of the bank. Mr. Basse seconded the motion and the motion
carried unanimously.
WAUER GRAVEL - Petitions for conditional use grant for extrac-
tion, removal of gravel and crushing, and land fill operation to
be located in the NW% of Sec. 18, were received from Lydia Wauer.
Mr. Buehler moved to schedule the public hearing to consider
this petition for 7:15 P. M., Tuesday, June 18th, 1968. Ald. Narlock
seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously. e
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4' x 8' sign advertising the Country Squire and hall for all
COUNTRY SQUIRE - The Commission reviewed a request for a
occasions to be located-at S72 W16373 Janesville Road. Building
Inspector Lee advised that the signhd been constructed without
a permit and that Mr. Paradiso had been requested to submit a
sketch and plot location in a letter dated May 3, 1968.
for the Commission members to view the sign. Mr. Bertram seconded
the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Buehler moved to defer action on this request in order
KIRKWOOD MANOR, ADDN. #1 - The Commission reviewed a revised
vreliminarv vlat showing 6 lots. 100' x 150'. in Kirkwood Manor.
Addn. #l. .Pianner Knetzger advised that he had contacted the '
school board to determine if they would be receptive to a school
at the corner of Martin & Lannon Drives, however, had not had a
reply to date.
The Commission noted that one of the lots (Lot 26) fell
within the RS-1 District and did not conform to the requirements
of that district. It was the Commission's decision that this
be referred to the City Attorney to determine the legal status
of such a lot.
Mr. Buehler moved to tentatively approve this revised
preliminary plat subject to the City Attorney's opinion and
clarification of the zoning status of Lot- 26. Ald. Narlock
seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
JACK GLOCKNER ENTERPRISES - Mayor Wieselmann requested
determine if the junked cars south of his private road had been
Build'ing Inspector Lee to inspect the Glockner property to
removed or eliminated in accordance with the Plan Commission's
decision of January 16, 1968.
IMME'S TRUCKING & WAREHOUSING - Mayor Wieselmann advised
that Mr. Imme had requested a letter from the Commission that they
would approve the location of the truck terminal as petitioned
for in their conditional use petition and which had been included
in the rezoning petition from the Industrial Committee. It was
noted by the Commission that the hearing to consider this rezoning
request had been scheduled for June 11, 1968, by the Common Council
Mr. Imme any indication of approval until after this hearing; and
It was the Commission's opinion that they could not give
that if the conditional use was granted, it would limit his operation
advised that he will contact Mr. Imme and apprize him of this fact.
to the extent that it would be prohibitive. Mayor Wieselmann
COMMUNICATIONS
BEIERLE - MILLARD - At their meeting April 22nd, the Plan
Commission requested that the State Highway Divn. be requested
to give a written opinion on the proposals submitted to them
by Plan Consultants Nelson & Assoc. concerning street and lot layout
studies of Section 16. The following communication dated May 16,
1968, from the state, in answerto this request was read by the
Recording Secretary:
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"Dear Mayor Wieselmann:
24, 1968, in which she asks in behalf of the Plan Commission, that
we consider moving the intersection of old and new C.T.H. "Y"
northerly to the point shown on a proposed layout of this area.
Commission along with Mr. Russell Knetzger and the County Highway On May 15, 1968, we met with you and several members of your Plan
Commission for additional discussion and considerations of this
matter. After considerable deliberation on the subject, the County
Highway Committee and your Plan Commission agreed to let the inter-
section of these two roads as currently planned. That is, that the
Junction will be made at Station 220+00.
We further agreed that the matter of placement of the parkway,
if and when it will be constructed, will be a topic for future con-
sideration and determination. This is particularly true since the
development of the area is quite speculative and rather undetermined
at this time.
This is in answer to Mrs. Barbara J. Sands' letter of April
/s/ L. G. Schneider/ Very truly yours,
Vince Demshar"
BROWN VS. KRAWCZYK - The following communication dated May
3, 1968, was reviewed by Mayor Wieselmann and referred to Plan
Consultant Knetzger:
To Attorney George Weber from Attorney Harlow Hellstrom
Dear Mr. Weber:
to advise you that I have filed the complaint with the Circuit
Court of Waukesha County.
further action for a period of two weeks to give you an opportunity
to answer the complaint if you so desire.
If we do not hear from you by May 17th. we will set the matter
for prove-up as default.
Pursuant to our phone conversation of today, this letter is
In view of our settlement negotiations, I will not take any
Very truly yours, /s/ Harlow J. Hellstrom"
PLANNER'S REPORTS ""-""
LEONARD OLDS - Planner Knetzger distributed a recommendation
indicating applicable conditions of use for operation of the tavern
located at W191 S7690 Racine Ave. for review by the Commission
members prior to the next regular meeting. Planner Knetzger
operate the tavern, be requested to attend the meeting as well as
suggested that Mr. Roger Schiltz, who intends to purchase and
a representative of the Muskego Lion's Club to discuss a property
trade which would eliminate the sharp triangular shaues each owner - e now has. -
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN - Plan Consultant Knetzger advised that
his firm, Nelson & Assoc., would be happy to have a suecia1 meeting
to lreview the Comprehensive Plan for the-new members without fee.
remain with the chair when a member has been replaced.
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It was also his suggestion that some files and reports
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0 ADJOURNMENT - Mr. Bertram moved for adjournment, Mr. Raimann
seconded the motion and the meeting adjourned at 11:52 P. M.
Respectfully submitted
Lu
Barbara J. Sands
Recording Secretary
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