PCM19680319CITY PLAN COMMISSION
CITY OF MUSKEOO
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD MARCH 19, 1968
CITY HALL
Mayor Gottfried called the meeting to order at 8:Os P. M.
PRESENT: Mayor Jerome Gottfried, Chairman, William F. Chase, Sec'y, Willard
Bertram, Charles Buehler, Paul DeAngelis, Alderman S. Robert Lentini and Ed
Raimann. Building Inspector Lee and Plan Consultant Russell Knetzger were
also present.
MINUTES: The minutes of the previous meeting, March b, 1968, were corrected on
Page 2, 1st paragraph, to read: "Alderman Lentini moved that Mr. Swanto submit
an architectural sketch of the appearance of the addition after completion. Mr.
Bertram seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously."
the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Raimann moved to accept the minutes as corrected. Mr. DeAngelis seconded
"_""_" PERSONAL APPEARANCES
VARGE WANNEBO - Mr. Varge Wannebo appeared in regard to his request to
Beer & Iiquor, s66 ash Janesville Road. He advised the Commission that his
attach a x 2', flashing, arrow sign to an existing Blatz Beer sign at Varge's
business was obscured by adjacent buildings and felt that the sign was necessary
to attract attention. He further advised that he was unaware that the City has
a Sign Ordinance when he purchased the sign.
immediate area, also taking into consideration the traffic hazard which might be
created.
Bertram seconded the motion and the motion carried with Alderman Lentini and Mr.
DeAngelis casting the only dissenting votes.
It was the Commission's suggestion that Mr. Wannebo return the sign and
that a more attractive and individualistic sign could be constructed for the
same amount or less money than eqended on the sign.
The Commission discussed the sign and its relationship to other signs in the
Mr. Chase moved that this request for a flashing, arrow sign be denied. Mr.
to construct a second garage structure (2b' x 24') on his property. He advised
the Conmission that it is his intention to store extra building supplies, garden
equipment, tractor, etc. in the proposed garage.
Mr. DeAngelis seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
After discussion, Mr. Raimann moved to grant this request as submitted.
Planner Knetzger brought to the attention of the Commission that the Zoning
Ordinance stipulates that adjacent property owners are to be notified of such
a request to give them an opportunity to voice an opinion. Mr. Raimann moved for reconsideration. Mr. DeAngelis seconded the motion
and the motion carried unanimously. Mr. Chase moved to defer action on this request until the next meeting in
order that the adjacent property owners can be notified. Mr. Raimann seconded
the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
KARL KOSS - Mr. Koss, kn88 S10811 Kelsey Dr. appeared seeking pern$ssion
Subdivision proposed for the Loomis Estate on Woods Rd. and Racine Ave., same
reviewed by Mayor Gottfried.
RONALD LEA - Mr. Lea, realtor, appeared to discuss the status of the Kilps
The following communication dated March 4, 1968, was read by Mqyor Gottfried:
March 19, 1968
Page 2 - Plan Comm.
* We would like to know the number of building permits that would be issued
"Gentlemen:
in one year for our proposed Subdivision on Highway "Y" and the Woods Road,
containing 13h lots. This Subdivision is proposed to be served by your municipal
ment plans.
sewer and this information is required in order for us to proceed withour develop-
Your immediate answer will be greatly appreciated.
Very truly, "I. KIDS SONS BUILDERS, INC.
/s/ James Heling"
The Conmission did not take action.
JOHN ALLISON - Mr. Allison, Milwaukee, appeared to discuss how the proposed
extension of Muskego Dam Road will affect his property - Lot 1, Posbrig's Plat.
He advised that the size of the lot is 132' x 330' and approximately $lhOO in
value. It was the Commissionls decision to refer this matter to Plan Consultant
Russell Knetzger for review and recommendation.
NORMAN MILLER - Mr. miller, Wl90 59808 E. Parker Dr., appeared and submitted
two acre division of the Emery Miller property in Section 29.
satisfactory percolation tests, preliminary plat and certified survey map fora
by the City Engineer. Mr. Buehler seconded the motion and the motion carried unani-
mously.
Alderman Lentini moved to approve the certified survey map subject to approval
Commission reviewed the certified survey map, satisfactory percolation tests
HAROLD DE BACK - Mr. DeBack, w198 Sl0856 Racine Ave., appeared and the
and soil boring results on his proposed two parcel land division on Racine Ave.,
one of which is proposed for the Muskego Volunteer Fire Dept. substation.
The Recording Secretary advised that City Engineer Ruekert had recommended
verbally approval of the certified survey map, however, that the Conmission should
consider the following comments:
1. In the legal description there is no reference to the electric company easement
and drainage easement on the south side of Parcel B.
2. The 60' road which is shown on the plat and in the description should show
"dedicated for street" on the map.
3. That the property owners be alerted that they will be assessed for the cost of
building the road.
h. Does the City wish to prohibit direct access to Highww Y in view of the
fact that there is a road in between the lots?
5. Planner should be consulted to determine if this is the proper location for
this road.
cated on the certified survey map and that the Public Works Committee be petitioned
to consider building 200' of road to serve the fire station property. After
further discussion, Mr. Chase withdrew this motion.
& B in Sec. 29 subject to the following conditions:
After discussion, Mr. Chase moved to approve the divisions of land as indi-
Mr. Buehler then moved to approve the division of land creating Parcels A
1. That the legal description make reference to the electric coWW easement
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March 19, 1968
on Parcel B.
will be assessed to the abutting owners.
guaranteed that the road will be constructed.
questkon will be the Fire Department access.
The Commission agreed that they would be willing to discuss this access with
the State Highwq Conrmission if it is necessary.
2. That the survey indicate that the cost of building the proposed road
3. That this division is not to occur until after the City has been
b. That the only access to Highwq Y permitted on the properties in
Alderman Lenthi seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
ROGER CHRISTIANSEJI - Mr. Christiansen, w131 6667 Kipling Drive, appeared
seeking approval for the location of two "American Family Insurance" signs at
S7k "076 Janesville Rd. which is presently knm as the Development Corp.
& Witeck Ins. Agencies will be leasing this building from Muskego Shopping
of America office. Mr. Christiansen advised the Commission that the Christiansen
Center, Inc., that there is a clause in their lease stating that they will be
requested to vacate in the event the building is to be moved, and that they
expect to move into this location April 1st.
they would be willing to sign an affidavit to the affect that in the event
Highwq 2k is widened to the extent that it would necessitate the removal or
0 eqense and at no expense to the state, county or city. Mr. Christiansen agreed.
relocation of the sign in the state right-of-way, it would be removed at their
The Commission reviewed the -its submitted and Mr. Chase questioned if
;i Mr. Chase then moved to approve this request for signs and location cor
American Family Insurance as submitted subject to the condition that the
petitioner sign an affidavit that he will vacate the right-of-way upon request
of the state. Mr. Buehler seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
OTHER BUSINESS """_
FRANK PRESTON - Mr. Preston, New Berlin, did not appear to submit site and
operational plans for use of property in Sec. 5, corner of Luckow Dr. and Racine
Ave., as requested by the Commission and indicated in the following communication
to Mr. Preston, dated February 16, 1968, which was read by the Recording
Secretary:
"Dear Mr. Preston:
i property in Sec. 5 to give you an opportunity to prepare and submit a site and
action on your request for determination of status for use of the Mary Preston
operational plan.
violating the zoning ordinance and subject to a fine for using this property
without the Plan Commission's approval.
On December 28th, you were advised that the Plan Commission had deferred
As of this date we have not received these plans and you are therefore
. Let this letter serve as a notice that unless the plans for this property ' are received by the March 5th Plan Conrmission meeting, or the existing use re-
moved from the property, it will be necessary to initiate legal action. a Pours very truly,
/s/ Barbara J. Sands"
directed to Mr. Preston granting him additional time until March 19th due to
meeting date change of the first meting in March due to election.
It was noted by the Commission that an additiond comication had been
March 19, 1968 Page b - Plan Comm.
The Commission directed Zoning Officer Lee to contact the City Attorney
and initiate legal action.
land division of property owned by Kenneth Erdman, S74 W21574 Field Dr., in the
KENNETH ERDMAN - The Commission reviewed a sketch submitted for a 2 parcel
NW&, Sec. 7. The Recording Secretary aMsed the Commission that Mr. Erdman
desired to sell 10 acres with the existing house, keepinr: 5 acres to the rear
in an area with an extremely steep grade. They reviewed an aerial map and it
on which to build a new dolling. The Commission noted that a road was proposed
was their opinion that the road might be more feasible if it followed the route
of a gas line which crosses the property.
discuss this land division. Mr. Bertram seconded the motion and the motion
Mr. Buehler moved to defer action until Mr. Erdman could be present to
carried unanimously.
NORTON SMITH, SR. - The following communication dated March 11, 1968,
directed to the Common Council and referred to the Commission was read by the
Recording Secretary:
"Gentlemen:
As owner of land described on the certified plat of survey attached hereto,
respectfully request consideration for a land division because the attached survey
is not now in compliance due to changes of the Subdivision Control Ordinance of
1960 and the rezoning of 1963. Kindly note that the boundary lines in red are the
the black lines of said plat.
original of said survey. The land division requested concerns three parcels within
The proposed area of Parcel 2 - 100' x 182' - 18200 sq. ft.
Parcel 3 - 91' x 183 I - 16653 sq. ft.
Parcel 4 - 91" x 183 - 16653 sq. ft.
lots within the immediate vicinity.
Please be informed that the areas proposed are consistent with the area of
Trusting the foregoing explanatory, I remain
very truly, /s/ Morton Smith, Sr."
After review of the plat submitted and taking into consideration that Parcel 4 is the only unimproved lot, Mr. Chase moved to accept the preliminary sketch and
recommend to the Common Council that these lots be declared legal lots and that
the petitioner submit the final certified surveys of the three lots in question.
Alderman Lentini seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
TANS-JENSEN - As concerns this proposed land division of the former beer Tans
property (now Emery Jensen) in the NE& of Sec. 6, the Commission reviewed the re-
vised certified survey map, satisfactory percolation tests and the following
communication from City Engineer Ruekert dated March 4, 1968:
Yientlemen:
We have reviewed the revised description of subject survey and find that it
now includes the 60t cul-de-sac.
In our previous letter of January 21, 1968, we recommended a slope easernent
provision on the face of the plat. If this is not deemed advisable by the Commission,
the certified survey should be approved as is.
If the Commission desires the slope easement it can be noted on the face of
the map or typed under the last line of the description.
Yours very truly,
/s/ F. J. Ruekert"
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March 19, 1968
Mr. DeAngelis seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
Alderman Lentini moved to approve the certified survey map for Emery Jensen.
BEIEFtLE-MILLARD - As concerns Mrs. Lorrete Millard's request for a h parcel
March 18, 1968, from David Beierle was read by the Recording Secretary:
division of her property in the ,l& of Sec. 16, the following comicated dated
"Dear Mayor Gottfried:
you please submit to the Commissioners the following information for their
property on Racine Ave. at your Plan Conmission meeting of March 19, 1968, would
consideration prior to reaching their recommendation in this matter.
able to restore the drive and culvert over the eccess which does exist to these
1. We are in this division asking for no additional access, but only to be
lots and has edsted for many years. The drive and culvert affording ingress and
the property in 1953 and was removed by the contractor relocating and rebuilding
egress to these lots was in existance ever since Mr. and Mrs. Millard purchased
Hiway Y in 1967 and not replaced by him.
2. The position of the Highway Commission as of this date is that they are
opposed to placing an intersection i. e. a proposed thru road at the point that the
occur too close to the main intersection of "old Y" and "new Y". (This is clearly
sometimes creek bed intersects with Hiway Y because then this inte rsection would
the Highway Commission at Waukesha, showing proposed treatment of roads in the
shown on the enclosed map, an exact duplicate of the map on file at the office of
area. This map is available for your inspection.)
his original recommendation subject to our Surveyor Mr. Beaudhin making several
corrections to the certified mey map. It is our plan to have these required
land division. Any other additions required by your Conrmission will be shown at
corrections made immediately upon receiving your conditional approval of this
that time.
with the RS-1 and RS-2 zoning in this area. The City of Muskego concurred in this
when they advised Mrs. Millard that she had sufficient frontage for three parcels
to be sewered and subsequently proceeded with installation of three laterals along
said frontage. 5. As mentioned above the Highway Codssion opposes placing of a parkway
road or any road at the point where the creek bed crosses Racine Ave. Section
V. A. 6 of the Subdivision Control Ordinance of the Ctty of Muskego states as
follows: General requirements and design standards: The proposed subdivision shall
conform to the rules of the State Highway Commission relating to safety of access
and the preservation of the public interest and ,any investment in streets and highwq?
if the subdivision or any lot contained therein abuts on a state trunk highway or
connecting street.
I have been advised on various occasions by Mr. Knetzger of Nelson & Assoc.
that the advantage to conducting and proceeding with municipal planning using a
Map" is the flexibility the comprehensive or advisory map provides. It would seem
long range comprehensive or "master plan" map as opposed to utilizing an 'IOfficial
that this is a case in point to utilize said flexibility when considering that the
Highway Conrmission is clearly opposing the placement of the parkway drive as the e On the basis of and because of the above we would hope that the Plan Commission
comprehensive map shows and recommending an alternative treatment.
will at their meeting of March 19th, 1968, grant conditional approval of the
with any necessary changes to the certified survey mp previous to your granting
requested land division of the Millard property so that we then proceed
youf final approval and recommendation to the Common Council.
When discussing the land division which we have requested-for the Millard
a 3. You have received a letter from Mr. Frank Ruekert, City Engineer, correcting
4. The lots or parcels of the land division as proposed comply in all respects
/s/ David R. Beierle, Broker"
March 19, 1968
Page 6 - Plan Corn.
the creek across Mrs. Millardls property as well as the ahantage of the parkway
to give access to other lands in the surrounding area.
Planner Knetzger expressed concern that the state had ignored the City's
parkway plans when relocating Hiway Y because the City is doing long-range planning
and the state is not. Mayor Gottfried advised that after discussing the proposed
parkway and relocation of Hiway Y with the State Highway Commission, he felt
that they could be encouraged to change their plans to correspond with the City's
The Commission discussed the City's plans for a proposed parkway following
parkway 'plans. Mr. Chase moved to deny this request for land division of the Millard pro-
perty, to authorize Plan Consultant Russell Knetzger to plat this area in a suit-
able alternative layout, and to recommend that the City make an adjustment to Mrs.
Millard for the unuseable laterals which were installed along Racine Ave. Mr.
Bertram seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
WAUSAU HOMES - The Commission reviewed plans of a Wausau, prefabricated home
submitted for architectural approval. Building Inspector Lee advised that Eddie
Carroll purchased this home at the State Fair and desires to have it moved to a
lot on Oak Grove Drive. He advised that it would be conforming to the zoning
ordinance in all respects, however, it would be moved to the lot completely
constructed, thus the request.
Wausau home. Alderman Lentini seconded the motion and the motion carried unani-
mously.
to the Plan Commission for architectural approval.
Mr. Buehler moved to approve this request for architectural approval of a
It was the Commission's decision that ar!y prefabricated home must be submitted
conditional use and expansion of conditional use for the purpose of constructing
LEONARD OLDS - A petition was received from Mr. Leonard Olds requesting
an addition on the second floor of the existing tavern, w191 57690 Racine Ave.,
presently horn as Hill's Nut House.
request for 7:15 P. M., April 16, 1968. Mr. Chase seconded the motion and the
Alderman Lentini moved to schedule the public hearing to consider this
motion carried unanimously.
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BLPrCHER-m - A petition was received from Mrs. Ada Butcher requesting a
conditional use grant for appro~mately 5.433 acres in Sec. 2 for the purpose of
a trucldng and warehousing business.
for 7:30 P. M., April 16, 1968. Mr. Raimann seconded the motion and the motion
Mr. DeAngelis moved to schedule the public hearing to consider this request
carried unanimously.
PLANNER' S REPORTS """"_
land use and detailed street planning used by the cities of Oak Creek. Milwaukee
SEWER-ZONING COORDINATION - Planner Knetzger reviewed various techniques in
e and Madison. He advised that- he would not recommend such detailed plkning of
the entire city, but to limit the planning to small areas with potential immediate
on the number of properties involved, complexity, etc. Planner Knetzger also
development and estimated the cost of such planning at $6 to $15 per acre depending
pointed out the need for the school organizational pattern - K-L, K-5, or K-8 -
and until such a school system is established, neighborhood planning is very
difficult.
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March 19, 1968
a OFFICIAL ZONING MAP - Planner Knetager reviewed the following recommendation dateadMarch h, 1968, as regards the official aonhg map:
"Gentlemen:
which was sent to our office for drafting of the amendments passed since the last
map change.
due to the annexation into the Town of Vernon. As an interim measure, we have
added just the annexed area to the base map, but when the City budget permits, a
proper extension of the base map should be made all along the City's western limits,
showing streets and other right-of-ways.
map on one base, to make each more understandable. Since the official road wi .dth
It might be helpful to combine the official road width map and the zoning
map will quite likely be affected by our current planning studies, (relocation of
llY1l, new freeway alignment, etc.), this redrafting of both the zoning and road
width maps should be delayed until the results of our studies are completed.
We are returning herewith the Official Zoning Map (on Mylar Base Material)
You will note that the base map used up to this time is no longer suitable
/s/ R. Knetzger"
Sincerely,
MEETING DATE CHANGE - Because of the election which will be held on the
next regular Plan Commission meeting date, April 2, 1968, and because a
compatible substitute date could not be scheduled, it was the Commission's decision
to cancel the next regular meeting, thus the Plan Commission will meet April 16th,
1968.
ADJOljRNMEWr - Mr. Raimann moved for adjournment, Alderman Lentini seconded
the motion and the meeting was adjourned at 1l:hO P. M.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara 3. Sands
Recording Secretary